I like the way Nigel has heaps of respect for Joe

every analyses I've ever heard Nigel Benn give has always turned out to be spot on.

Joe Calzaghe is a true champion who doesn't by far get enough credit for what he has achieved

@sheruffa6032

5 жыл бұрын

Look, to get an idea of ​​Calzaghe you have to at least listen to what they say and have said coaches, boxers and former boxers, you will find that from them that at the end of the games are the people who have more authority in the boxing world, yes are always expressed with enthusiasm towards Joe Calzaghe, so I don't think that Calzaghe has been underestimated, at least not from the world of boxing, it is logical on the internet you will hear comments of all kinds, but what matters is having approval from the world in which you express and from your fans, certainly if he had moved as a teenager to the United States, an even more competitive environment, he would have become even stronger, because he would have had to adapt to the tight competitiveness in the US, I think he would have become even stronger, but Calzaghe managed to do very great things anyway, he found a way to win, and to come out undefeated, sincerely than both he and his father who followed him in every incident ntro, they did really great things, really!

@ChrisThornburn-ke5xk

4 жыл бұрын

Anthony Mcken wasn’t joe avoiding big fights clear he was number one

@raxmanbox

4 жыл бұрын

Joe was a great fighter but you can just about count on one hand the times he was in the ring with a genuine live opponent - apart from Kessler and Lacy (who joe exposed) he fought more mandatory challengers than legit top 10 168pounders or other title holders - now that isn't a knock on his abilities I look at the top guys at super middle in that era that he didn't fight - Ottke, Beyer, Green, Mundine, Echols etc and have no doubt he'd beat them all - but his not fighting those guys is why he doesn't get the credit

@bensonogbe2040

3 жыл бұрын

Joe Calzaghe is using hypnosis.He will see the side effects in his older years and he wouldn’t like it.Believe me.His body will compensate for that unusual energy.

@tonyh8965

Жыл бұрын

He’s underrated because his resume is poor.

Nigel Benn gives Joe Calzaghe the credit he deserves.

Nigel was a hell of a warrior

Nigel was fucking brilliant ex army the lot he was superb and fought like a gladiator, I can only admire the man.

@grahamtaylor8912

6 жыл бұрын

Agreed..... The guy is a legend....

@briangreen842

3 жыл бұрын

Win or lose the man was a fighter who never gave in. Respect. 🤜

@Allthingspoll

3 жыл бұрын

He couldn’t box… puncher gets beat by a boxer, that’s why he couldn’t beat eubank

@samuraiisalmighty4917

2 жыл бұрын

@@Allthingspoll he gave him a good tough fight though

@Allthingspoll

2 жыл бұрын

@@samuraiisalmighty4917 yea they can, sometimes they can even win but if they have two or three fights the boxer usually has 2/3 wins

Nigel Benn my favourite fighter of all time, class out of the ring and pure heart and guts in it.

What a boxer Joe was!! The best in his weight class.

Calzaghe was the man.

Joe is underrated by most people in the USA. He is the best ever at super middleweight.

@TheMercuryWolf

7 жыл бұрын

Yes he had an abundance of natural talent and he is definitely underrated by many.

@hawkermustang

7 жыл бұрын

***** He was fast, smart and athletic. Great stamina also. Bigger balls than most.

@TheMercuryWolf

7 жыл бұрын

Yes. Great chin and will to win too.

@zeehuss8209

6 жыл бұрын

hawkermustang no. He had chances to match up against those in America but for whatever reason didn't go until he fought a past-it RJJ and B-Hop. If he had travelled to America after beating Eubank and beaten Keith Holmes, Quincy Taylor or even the fading Frankie Lyles....then no one has any argument. Reggie Johnson was in America at that time......don't think Calzaghe takes that bout though!

@samueljay8271

6 жыл бұрын

Zee Huss look into it more mate... he offered both the fight mainly bhop, but all of a suddern he wanted twice the purse. jones was moving up the weights when offered the fight, (both roughyly 2002) so rejected. joe never ran from any1

Nigel Benn fought the best no matter who they were and people have got to understand when he fought McClellan he was given no hope and with good reason but he fought his heart out that night and shocked the world, there are boxers out there that envy Benn and so they should. Long Live The one, the only, The Dark Destroyer.

@lucasm3879

6 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Most British boxers up until about 10 years ago crumbled when facing top Americans. Eubank never wanted to face any, he admitted that in The Gloves Are Off. It brought out the best in Benn though, he's said that interviews, he refused to be intimidated and never lost to an American.

@Falconer710

6 жыл бұрын

Copee Well said

@onlyme9254

6 жыл бұрын

Copee that fight was one of the most brutal I've ever seen without baseball bats! I doubt if today's refs would be brave enough to let a fight like that carry on as it's life n death in the ring it's not like calling an offside, getting it wrong n play on people die in the ring n if they're unlucky to survive a brain injury they n their aponants have to live with the consequences. Big respect to anyone who steps in the ring past n present!

@paulanthony5274

6 жыл бұрын

Billy Lee what you talking about heblost the first fight to eubanksvandvthe second was a draw and only because benn had a point deducted because eubanks had his cup well too high.Benn wasn't a drugs cheat he was a brilliant trainer,where's your proof he was a drugs cheat?

@mathematics557

6 жыл бұрын

Billy Lee you sound like a hater, give this warrior the respect he deserves.

Calzaghe is a legend and so is Nigel Benn

@georgemorley1029

3 жыл бұрын

Correct. With both of them, WYSIWYG.

One legend, spot on about another.

Joe is a Legend. I always felt he was driven to just be champion not the lights and glam. I mention him in the gym and people don’t know his name. It’s sad cause to me he arguably is up there with the greatest fighters ever and as an American who is a huge fan of British Boxing I think he is the greatest of his era and maybe ever as far as British boxing goes. Tyson Fury obviously is the biggest and most notable and God Bless Him… absolutely love him. But Joe #1 in my book.

@OnlyBelters_

2 жыл бұрын

people dont know calzaghes name??? 😂😂 you need new friends edited > ur american apologies

Very insightful comments from Nigel Benn, awesome!

best ever Joe was undefeated

I was in tenefire i saw nigel benn and frank bruno running together 👍

Long lived the legend, my favorite middleweight of all time along with Marvin Hagler.

Benn great fighter he had no fear once he was fighting. Joe Calzaghe say what you want but he was and still is best super middle of all times

@jettz8571

6 жыл бұрын

Bullshit. He was great but no the best

@mcginn4209

6 жыл бұрын

Arguing over who's the 'best' doesn't make sense so I'll agree but except say he was one of the best... (-_-)

@zaferbaser249

6 жыл бұрын

Muhammud Ghulaam Yaseen are you crazyyy??? Calzaghe best?? He fought only bumps!!! Roy jones is best of all time!! He would beat up nigel en calzaghe together in ring!

@deanwaller8283

6 жыл бұрын

Zafer Baser yeah, in case you didn't know? Joe smacked Roy Jones junior silly

@paulanthony5274

6 жыл бұрын

Ben Shaffir Yeah you are right there ben I the only thing I can say though is that that was when Jones lost his speed but his resume is excellent calzaghe was a great fighter

back when they all had heart and respect.

Benn was a great but basically just always went in to tear shit up. 100%, no quit. However, Calzaghe had gears and was a nightmare to fight. Fast hands, stamina for 24 rounds, never mind 12 and a strong chin. He wouldn’t stop throwing, his opponents couldn’t stop getting hit and they couldn’t get him out of there either. That’s why he beat everyone he ever fought and no one could do the same to him. Busy boxer, adapted constantly.

Joe was the best British middleweight of all time. One of the best ever, he schooled eubanks ,

calzage was best fighter britain ever produced

@hueyfreeman1983

5 жыл бұрын

bob fitzimons

@ReservoirPunk

5 жыл бұрын

Lennox Lewis.

@MrMudmouth

4 жыл бұрын

Joe calzaghe

Well said Nigel Benn he knows his boxing calzaghe was different level

Nigel Benn, Chris Eubanks sr., Roy Jones jr. couldn't best Calzaghe even on their best day. He already had the element of FEAR in them. The best !

I'm a huge fan of both but in my opinion Joe would've out boxed him and either stopped him or won on points.

If anyone doubted or wasn't sure how good joe was, just listen to Emanuel steward during the kestler fight. Thatl do the trick.

I met Benn in Londons soho, very nice guy to hes fans...

Both great fighters

Let me just share joes record 46/0 undefeated champion period...

Joe's work rate in rounds is legendary .He would of stopped Benn in the later rounds .

@TheHumbuckerboy

6 жыл бұрын

Naturally too big for Benn IMO.

@Nemoticon

6 жыл бұрын

If Roy Jones Jnr couldn't put him down, anywhere in a fight, how could Benn? Also, Calzaghe fought in a heavier weight division. Joe never ever tired in the ring, in spite of his work rate... I like Benn, but he would have been trounced.

@onepunchfatality8946

6 жыл бұрын

Firebrand except roy jones jr did put him down. An old grandpa roy put him down lmao

@Nemoticon

6 жыл бұрын

Lol, I meant 'to win'... but I'll give you that one. Wrong choice of words.

@RRich100

5 жыл бұрын

Dr Manhattan joe wasn’t at his peak. What happened after the knockdown? Joe usually took the first 2 rounds off them dominated for the last 10. Did exactly that against Roy.

The first time I watched Joe Calzaqui was when he matched up against Jeff Lacey &we know how that went! And after seeing him in subsequent fights my feeling was, he had that rare ability to"up his game" when he was facing better quality fighters! He could rise to the occasion,and adapt to the opponent in front of him! .I also feel he was one of those fighters who just didn't realize h how difficult it was to catch him flush..And if someone did catch him successfully (A flash knock down) they usually didn't get a second opportunity!. And u don't manage to keep ur nose so straight&face so unmarked just by chance in "Prizefighting" for nothing!

2 of the best to come out of the UK joe for #1 in my book

That was beautiful praising the up n coming and was he rte joe c the legend

Levels. Calzaghe all day.

Joe would have been too big for Nigel IMO.

Nigel is a warrior his fight with chris eubanks is one of the best

@Eyeballpaul84

2 жыл бұрын

Battle of the lisps

Joe was one class fighter.

@ryand141

Ай бұрын

Slapper. Never liked his style.

Calzaghe was the best all time super middleweight, I liked Eubank and benn, but calzaghe on another level ,didn’t need to showboat , would of been nice to see haha 🥊🥊

Ben and Joe are ace.

benn is one scary dude in the ring ,outside a true gent

Joe, greatest middleweight of them all. In any era.

@rossl5908

3 жыл бұрын

He wasn’t a middleweight but?

Benn Eubanks Joe Watson All greats

Benn was right about joe. Wow

Joe was the most successful boxer 🥊 from Britain.

Had they fought it would have been a massacre for Calzaghe just because he was naturally bigger and would have punched holes in Nigel's defence. We all love Nigel of course, fantastic fighter.

Steve Collins advoided Joe Calzaghe because he was scare Joe would beat him.

@georgemorley1029

3 жыл бұрын

Joe Calzaghe would have made a mockery of Steve Collins.

Calzaghe was and still is number 1

Joe was at his best ,no one would beat him

@samueljay8271

6 жыл бұрын

andrew potts i agree n ive watched most fights

TRUE TALK!

Nigel Benn a *true* fighter (-_-)

Nigel knew lol

What a fight that would have been. I think Joe on points in a war.

@TheMercuryWolf

7 жыл бұрын

Would've been a superb fight. I agree with your prediction. Calzaghe on points or possibly via late stoppage. I think both of them are getting hurt or dropped in this one. Benn hit exceptionally hard but Calzaghe had a great chin. But Benn could drop anyone he caught clean. His power wasn't quite as effective at 168 as it had been at 160, mind.

@hawkermustang

7 жыл бұрын

Nobody was picking Joe to beat Chris Eubanks either.

@nordicwarrior5014

7 жыл бұрын

hawkermustang Joe was the first and only guy to drop Eubank also. Eubank was known for his granite chin. Joe dropped him with the first clean punch.

@hawkermustang

7 жыл бұрын

NordicWarrior Yeah Joe was good. Never know as a puncher though. Had he not came to the USA he wouldn't have never fought Roy Jones or Hopkins either, because neither one of those guys were gonna risk taking that L in Europe anywhere.

@nordicwarrior5014

7 жыл бұрын

hawkermustang He was a puncher until he broke his power hand against Evans Ashira then his power was never the same. He used to knock almost every opponent out before then.

I’d have to say Calzaghe stops Benn

@georgemorley1029

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, but he’d comfortably outpoint him over the distance.

At this point in Joes career, Ben might have gotten to him early, likely NB woulda lost a decision Nigel is right about everything tho.

Calzaghe was one of the most talented fighters of the last 30 years. I think the two things that stopped him getting the credit he deserved were: 1) Let's be honest, he *was* an arm puncher. 2) He had zero charisma. But has a perfect ring record and he should have a ton of money so I don't think he will lose any sleep about not getting as much as credit as he would have liked.

@Carl-fp6xt

2 жыл бұрын

He had brilliant in ring charisma though

@ppuh6tfrz646

2 жыл бұрын

@@Carl-fp6xt Not really. Did you see him making a tw@t out of himself in the first round against Eubank when he was doing the Ali shuffle?

@ppuh6tfrz646

2 жыл бұрын

@@hurricanebawbag1888 The fact he was Welsh makes no difference to me. But his arm punching and lack of charisma meant I only admired him rather than liked him.

@Mike-iu6sz

Жыл бұрын

@@ppuh6tfrz646 clown

@ppuh6tfrz646

Жыл бұрын

@@Mike-iu6sz I'm sorry if the truth upsets you.

Benn is a classy guy too fair play

Joe was the best British boxer of all time in my opinion

@cardigan3000

Жыл бұрын

hes in the discussion for best boxer from anywhere

Love Nigel but Joe would have wrecked his legacy with a real beating

@syrusbark

4 жыл бұрын

@Megalodon Unlocked Jeff Lacy might disagree

His best fight I think was against Jeff Lacy..apart from he is and was probably the best middle/super middle weight

@Mike-iu6sz

Жыл бұрын

Joes never fought at middleweight buddy

@TheBenzer9

Жыл бұрын

@@Mike-iu6sz he fought middle weight at British level

@Mike-iu6sz

Жыл бұрын

@@TheBenzer9 he didn’t mate, professional he fought at super middleweight and light heavy! Look it up! Only fought lighter in the amateurs

@TheBenzer9

Жыл бұрын

@@Mike-iu6sz that's what I just said lol he won three British titles one of them at middle weight 🤣 so he did actually fight at middle weight

he beat my boxing idol but I still think he is really smart and got out at the right time. TBH he made him look stupid even though I have to say Jones Jr was out of his prime.

Calzaghe is a legend 46-0 won't come out the valleys lol wished he would of had a fight with Benn n jones jr hopkins in there prime be all top fights well not calzaghe fault he never but respect to him

What might have been.

Michael was so clever calslappy

Always said Nigel Benn knew boxing back then. Now..when it comes to his son??? Maybe not so much!

Joe won both Roy Jones & the Executioner, who else have done that?

Benn himself said he would have lost to Joe. Google it.

@colinme2672

5 жыл бұрын

Wow. Your reply makes zero sense. I'm not hero worshipping. Joe would beat Ben. Sugar Ray? That's a different question.

Jo never stepped back I a fight

Sven Ottke would have given him a beating that he would remember.

@pdizzle7111

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

Joe was the best the country ever produced. End.

The Kessler victory stands up, but beyond it there's only a controversial SD over an ageing Hopkins; a battering of Jeff Lacy who turned out to be a hype-job; and two victories against fading legends, Eubank and Jones, where he struggled more than most thought he would. Plus it seems he chose not to fight a young hungry Jermaine Taylor, whoich proved to be a mistake that Hopkins made. There are other top guys out there he could've fought but chose not to. Retiring undefeated is special, but to be an all time great there has to be a little longevity. Just about every boxer on the all time great list had more than 46fights/Calzaghe, 50/Mayweather, 49/Marciano. Julio Ceasar Chavez could have retired after his 89th fight and been 89-0, but he continued on and lost in his 90th fight to Frankie Randall.

@georgemorley1029

3 жыл бұрын

What about Mitchell, Brewer, Woodhall, Bika? All world champions. All beaten by Joe. You’ve got a fairly skewed view of Joe’s career. Plus he never struggled against Eubank, he put him on his arse in round one and never looked back. And if you think he struggled against Jones...what? Seriously? Were you even watching the fight? He took the piss out of him for ten rounds!

@macamo9991

3 жыл бұрын

@@georgemorley1029 Just saying, most all-time greats have more than a 50 fight career. Longevity counts. He was stripped of the IBF because he chose not to face Jermaine Taylor. Brewer was 38 and 7 when he fought him, Eubank was on the down side if his career. Calzaghe was 36yrs old and 46-0 when he retired. Calzaghe was smart enough to see what was coming down the pipe in the form of guys like Jermaine Taylor, Andre Ward, and Authur Abraham. Pretty sure no one wanted any part of Gerald McClellan either.

@jimbyrne2328

2 жыл бұрын

The only controversy surrounding the Hopkins fight was the judge who went for Hopkins. Calzaghe beat Hopkins comfortably, never in any danger of losing. Although, the same judge thought Canelo beat Golovkin by 8 rounds, it may have looked close on the cards, but in reality, Calzaghe beat Hopkins comfortably.

Calzaghe ducked all the greats of the 90's & 00's until they were old & 7 years past their prime. # Jones, Hopkins, & everybody else with a chance to beat him.

@atuls55

5 жыл бұрын

How did he avoid them? Jones was a huge star at Light Heavy by the time Calzaghe had his breakout win over Eubank at Super Middle. Eubank only fought him because Calazaghe wasn't even a big enough draw for Steve Collins to fight him at the time. A fight was made with Hopkins 5 or 6 years before they actually fought but Hopkins pulled out of it at the last minute.

@liamandrews4721

5 жыл бұрын

Hopkins was a middleweight though so how did that happen

if Joe was American there would be a film made about him

2020 but still I got to say this he never had to be that mouthy cxnt in the media his boxing showed how good he was he got a bit cocky in the ring when he went stateside but he schooled them. And this Carl froch shit I see somewhere behave you'd be put on ya arse.

Calzaghe the greatest British fighter ever

Ben is up there with the Greats - yes plural because those that made it to that level of sporting greatness are not limited to one, except for God if you'd want to argue that...but that's another topic for another day. Peace to everyone.

Nigel Benn....destroys Calzaghe.

@samueljay8271

6 жыл бұрын

zutrue nope wrong. benn knows he wouldnt of beat calzaghe. watch move vids bellend

@georgemorley1029

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, Calzaghe was the real deal, too fast, too quick with his hands, solid chin and a tank of fuel to last 24 rounds, never mind 12. Calzaghe on points over 12 by miles.

Slappy

The Joe calzaghe that only thought out of prime fighters when he finally went out of his hometown?

@Burnsyboy20

6 жыл бұрын

Thought not fought. Simply cause he's a slapper. I'd kill the tart.

@ChrisThornburn-ke5xk

4 жыл бұрын

nick the-greatest burns slapped with 32 kos your an idiot

@ChrisThornburn-ke5xk

4 жыл бұрын

nick the-greatest burns he was belt holder the number 1 wake up

Roy Jones best days were far behind him when he fought joe, joe is best fighter to come out of Britain but he don’t beat no prime Roy at 168

Benn ducked him. He was offered the fight before eubank fought him 🤣

@alfie2113

5 жыл бұрын

John smith joe was a world beater wtf are you on about

Joe made the big moves to late in his career

Joe would have destroyed the dark destroyer think he might have been a roid head

@zeehuss8209

6 жыл бұрын

Amy Mcphee Disgusting BS lie. Benn was clean in his career - which period are you having a prime Calzaghe fight Benn? The peak Benn 88-93 destroys Calzaghe by KO inside 4 Rounds - name me a McClellan on Calzaghe's resume? - every fucker mentions Collins. Collins was a coward who waited until Benn was washed up and finished, and Eubank on the slide before he faced them Remember a PRIME Collins had his ass given to him by McCallum, Johnson and Kalambay When Collins saw who was coming he ran for the hills! Calzaghe should have gone to America after he defeated a Eubank on the slide. There were many bouts out there from him: Keith Holmes (and Holmes never even laces the boots of Nunn), Quincy Taylor, even a Frankie Lyles Reggie Johnson was around......doubt Calzaghe would have gone anywhere near him!

@amymcphee6319

6 жыл бұрын

Zee Huss mcclellans trainer for one though he used peds he openly admits to using other drugs so why wouldn't he use peds he quit against Collins faked injury and his boy is shit too. He's not fit to lace Joe's boots

@zeehuss8209

6 жыл бұрын

Amy Mcphee McClellan's "trainer" against Benn?!? You write that fucking scumbag Stan Johnson as a "boxing trainer"???? The same Stan Johnson who said he taped up McClellan's hands when he fought Benn, when there is photographic evidence and at least 3 live witnesses, including Sanders, who said that McClellan wrapped his own hands!!! The same Stan Johnson, who McClellan said was not shouting the correct punch-combos in the Peacock Gym, when Gerald was in London a week before the Benn bout! The same Stan Johnson, whose mouth was smashed open and his teeth were knocked out (by McClellan!) because McClellan was fed up with him not knowing what he was doing in pad-work! That Stan Johnson?!? Which other boxer did this fool Stan Johnson "train"? McClellan's boxing trainer was the late, legendary Emmanuel Steward, who Gerald left a bout or 2 before Benn. McClellan did have the decision stolen from him, but that was the fault of the incompetent and clueless Asaro the French ref. That had nothing to do with Benn! I ask you again, name me any1 on Calzaghe's resume who is ANYWHERE near a Gerald McClellan. When McClellan was under Steward, both a prime RJJ and a prime James Toney avoided Gerald. A PRIME Benn (1988-93) would KO Calzaghe inside 4 Rounds. Collins was a coward, who waited until Benn was washed-up and finished before facing him. A PRIME Collins had his ass given to him by McCallum, Johnson and Kalambay.....and ran for the hills when he saw who was coming! You know fuck-all about boxing.

@amymcphee6319

6 жыл бұрын

I'm not arguing with you because your so predictable I know what your gonna say. UNDEFEATED supermiddle and lightheavy way to much skills and speed for a brawler like benn anyone knows that bye now.

@dougclark9921

6 жыл бұрын

I think JC wins at any point vs NB but not because he was better. Joe had a high work rate, accurate punches and could take a decent punch. Benn would have been a tough fight but I give it to Calzaghe because Benn had a habit of getting caught with punches and getting tired if he didnt ko people. I think Benn would have cut a path through todays SMW division. All that said and as a Calzaghe fan I would watch Benn over Joe.

Joe was a good fighter but not in the league of the hagler sand Leonard’s

Nigel Benn was always a mug.

I like Nigel Benn ..But he should shut up!

I think Benn would have KO'ed Calzaghe. Both amazing fighters tho.

@danpilsworth6301

6 жыл бұрын

Hamza Khaliq no way...but hard to call would of been amazing tho...

@ironmike2010

6 жыл бұрын

Dan Pilsworth Benn would have smashed calzaghe calzaghe was soft

@elpistolero9394

6 жыл бұрын

Fluffy Snow doggo They said the same thing about Lacy.

@TextBookPuncher1

6 жыл бұрын

Hamza Benn would have lost to calzaghe

@ironmike2010

6 жыл бұрын

TextBookPuncher1 omg 💀🤦🏾‍♂️

Joe would have beaten Naijah Benn if they had fought. JC too much bombaclurt skill in dee ring. Naijah is strong but not fast and slick like calzagzi

Benn was one of the most exciting boxers ever. Calzaghe wasn't.

@bieituns

7 жыл бұрын

Ye but Calzaghe wasn't a quitter.

@KryptonitetoallBS

7 жыл бұрын

efc toffee :- What like Gary Speed you mean?

@bieituns

7 жыл бұрын

What does that have to do with the price of fish?

@KryptonitetoallBS

7 жыл бұрын

You brought up the subject of "Quitting". Surely checking out of life itself puts quitting in a boxing ring in the shade?

@bieituns

7 жыл бұрын

Well arguably Benn quit because he was scared to get hurt or die in the ring. Gary Speed never feared death, but I still don't see why you brought Gary Speed of all people into the conversation. Its irrelevant to the conversation.

Is it just me or is it the fact it takes one to knowome (gaydar) that most old school boxing legends are gay and have very feminin ways about them like I do. Let me name a few: nigel Benn, Mike tyson, chris uebank and so many more. But then how could you come out the closet whilst trying to be world champion. Take a look at mma it's also very similer. Am I the only person that has thought about this 🤔😂

joe beat them all he was the best about he fought Hopkins kesler Roy Jones Ewbank he done them all,So nobody can say a word there's always a big mouth that thinks of someone that'd be about now or then but he done the best about so give him Credit for what he achieved not knock him you couldn't do what he did just remembered that.