Also I don't wanna hear shit about how I pronounce Arceus I don't care please don't be the kind of person who cares how people pronounce the name of the fake space horse it's not worth it

@bombzyq8760

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder what child will say this when you put this down already, like the person under me

@bombzyq8760

2 жыл бұрын

So nvm about my first reply to an extent because I pronounce it that way too.

@free_playstation_2

2 жыл бұрын

i love playing red arceus in melty

@HellecticMojo

2 жыл бұрын

@@free_playstation_2 I must admit that I get mildly annoyed when people call her "Arcade"

@PlaguevonKarma

2 жыл бұрын

Arseus is the best pronunciation!

Mail is the best niche item. Mail’s only effect is that it can’t be gotten rid of via trick knock off ect but this can be pretty useful on bulky Pokémon because one of the more common ways people handle walls if by tricking them a choice item. If say your blissey has a mail and a alakazam tries to choice trick it it’s now locked into trick and they have to switch out or if it’s their last mon they just lose

@free_playstation_2

2 жыл бұрын

Wait that's actually kind of nutty, what the fuck And funnily enough I already have a counter to that Klutz

@BromanderInChief

2 жыл бұрын

Mail was actually used occasionally on chansey in gen 4 UU to prevent being tricked a choice item lmao

@weinerbarf4209

2 жыл бұрын

I believe mail actually can be knocked off/thiefed, it just can't be tricked.

@_zoeloft

2 жыл бұрын

@@weinerbarf4209 mail can’t be knocked off, it’s sometimes used because it shows up as a held item on the team preview, so your opponent might use knock off or trick on them then nothing happens

@tootsie_

2 жыл бұрын

That's the dumbest, stupidest, most horrible idea I have ever heard. You have a pokepaste link to a team with this?

"I don't really care if fuckin Scrunguschu can utilize the Red Bingus pretty well in Generation Fuck" This is a beautiful sentence

@3kojimbles895

2 жыл бұрын

sonichu lore is getting pretty deep

@raziphaz2219

2 жыл бұрын

1:05

@masonpiatt-villasenor686

2 жыл бұрын

@@3kojimbles895 both of these are legendary!

@ricebun4669

2 жыл бұрын

Best part of the video

@lifeof_bi9982

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, of course, the legendary Red Bingus.

My favorite item niche is Weakness Policy Shedinja.

@bungusmcchungus

2 жыл бұрын

life orb is more optimal imo

@normal6483

2 жыл бұрын

Don't act like Sticky Barb isn't the best Shedinja item around

@xmgaming2444

2 жыл бұрын

Weakness policy can technically be activated if shedinja uses endure or a focus sash, and then you can fire off a slightly less mediocre shadow sneak before you get hit again next turn.

@monkeyjosh339

2 жыл бұрын

@@xmgaming2444 if its sash it cant use weakness policy

@mjdxp5688

2 жыл бұрын

I prefer Life Orb Shedinja personally. Just gotta get that extra damage off!

I’ll share a niche item I found some success with. In the Ubers tier back in generation 7, I used to run Binding Band on Jumpluff. Binding band increases the damage that a Pokémon deals with the residual damage of a trapping move. With jumpluff, I ran infestation, toxic, strength sap and encore. The reason why this strategy worked best in Ubers despite jumpluff being in the PU tier was because it was an excellent counter to primal Groudon. Most Groudon sets would lead with stealth rock, rock polish or bulk up. Jumpluff would use infestation, the Groudon would use a set up move, and then Jumpluff would outspeed and use encore. Even if Groudon used rock polish, Jumpluff would still outspeed because I ran chlorophyll to use groudon’s sun against it. Thanks to the binding band, the damage from the trap and toxic would eventually kill the Groudon. Even against some other threats, this set could survive against some physical attackers using strength sap. But the main thing was to take out Primal Groudon, who I believe was considered the strongest Pokémon in the tier at the time. I even made it into top 500 at some point with this set. Sadly Jumpluff got the dex axe and even still Groudon isn’t as common as it used to be, so this set isn’t reliable in gen 8. Still, it was a ton of fun beating up earth gods with a cottonball.

@BigYellowSilly

2 жыл бұрын

That's crazy creative, love the idea

@catandfishfc

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen Binding Band on Heatran before, so Magma Storm + Protect does more damage before Heatran switches out.

@aerospherology2001

2 жыл бұрын

the best thing is to look at the meta and do something pretty funny

@pikazilla6405

2 жыл бұрын

I think while this is a good way to catch players off guard it’s the sort of thing that’d really struggle against certain players, I notice especially in lower levels players tend to just take kos whenever they see them even if they’d rather use a setup move, and primal groudon has a pretty easy ko on jumpluff with either a rock or fire move

@professionaltrashcan6758

2 жыл бұрын

I once ran a pain split bulky Mimikyu with Toxic, it bodied a Primal Groundon once.

Great video! Unfortunately, you missed my favorite niche item interaction; in generation Fuck, Scrunguschu can actually use the Red Bingus very well whereas it's a suboptimal choice for every other Pokemon. This combination took me far back in the old days of the Chudrucker Invitational which was run in an abandoned warehouse down by the docks where the old Friendly's used to be (you know the place), where I piloted it to victory against a janitor who didn't speak English very well and a small dog. Also, upon thinking about it a second time, we may have actually been playing Yahtzee. But I don't think that changes much. You should've still brought it up, and now that I've corrected you on this, it makes me superior. In conclusion, Syria is a land of contrasts. Thank you for reading my book report.

@obiwancannoli1920

2 жыл бұрын

I think Blue Bingus is better for Scrunguschu because it boosts the Scrunganger point of the pokemon holding it by 20% instead of Scrogus point but it depends on your playstyle

@StarrDust12

2 жыл бұрын

@@obiwancannoli1920 the blue bingus isn't as niche though, as a lot of other pokemon like mega bloapan, eebidaz, and biborman can utilize it effectively. though neither of those are even close to as popular as the yellow or even green bingus. my favourite niche item example is the husamo chain, which is rarely used on atsamorb in generation shit CU, most people assume that atsamorbs all run poingus orbs, which is what makes the husamo chain special.

@CatsLeMatts

2 жыл бұрын

@@StarrDust12 among us

@antusFireNova

Жыл бұрын

In generation crap, the Red Bingus is actually a great item

@peepoodave_qwerty

Жыл бұрын

the ultra bingus was banned in anything goes. just reminding u

Fun fact about Berserk Gene: In generation 2, wild Mewtwos are hardcoded to always carry a Berserk Gene. There's so such thing as a wild Mewtwo in Gen2, and if there were, it would just consume the item turn1 without you get to do anything.

@usernametaken017

3 ай бұрын

My favorite phisical attacker, mewtwo

@holowisewolf1688

3 ай бұрын

​@@usernametaken017Submission Mewtwo is one of the most hilarious things in Gen 1 Ubers.

Fun fact : there is actually a use for the chillian (idk if thats how its spelled) berry in generation 7 overused, defensive zapdos sometimes runs it to survive a +2 z giga impact from kartana

@BigYellowSilly

2 жыл бұрын

That's pretty sick, never dabbled in Gen 7 so that's really cool to hear

@SPZ-gv2on

2 жыл бұрын

Really rare to see but it's a cool tech. Anything to actually check kartana.

@maagic2031

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigYellowSilly Gen 7 OU is one of the most fun metas imo. I recommend it if you just wanna learn another gen.

@Masahane

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely not meta at all, but I actually ran one in an emerald rom hack to reduce damage from a swellow's boomburst

@SPZ-gv2on

2 жыл бұрын

@@maagic2031 I would agree. Gen 7 OU is absolutely insane and it's super fun.

I do wanna point out something that wasn't mentioned, a huge part of VGC's item diversity is due to item clause. There are definitely items that would be extremely prevalent in various historic VGC tiers without item clause, most notably Sitrus berry. It's actually part of why nature berries were such a huge deal in Gen VII, because they provided a 50% pinch heal that dodged item clause since their effect was spread over 5 berries. The aggressive nature of the tier definitely helps the viability of certain items like Gems and the unique nature of doubles helps create situations where items like Weakness Policy and Room Service are much more viable than in singles, but item clause is probably the main contributor of item diversity in VGC.

@JulieLamia

2 жыл бұрын

As someone less versed in VGC, what *is* item clause?

@Altilt

2 жыл бұрын

@@JulieLamia No duplicate held items on your team.

@FatherOfGray

2 жыл бұрын

I honestly wouldn't hate having Item Clause in Smogon Singles. It would be really nice to see more creativity and item diversity than Leftovers/Black Sludge, Boots and Choice items on everything.

@CyberchaoX

Жыл бұрын

@@FatherOfGray Even more than that, imagine Little Cup where only one Pokémon on each team could have Eviolite

@robertlupa8273

Жыл бұрын

@@CyberchaoX wait that's not already a rule?

Think my most fun niche build I did was in Gen VI OU with an anti-meta Talonflame. Gale Wings, Sitrus Berry, Flare Blitz, Acrobatics, Roost, Bulk Up. Jolly nature with a 92/252/8/0/28/128 EV spread. Even HP so it procs Sitrus on Stealth Rocks, 180 DEF so it perfectly lined up with Bulk Up scalings, 181 SpDEF to make Download Pokemon get ATK boosts, and 352 SPE to beat Adamant Talonflames' by 1. I think I still have highlights of eating Tyranitar Rock Slides with that thing. Miss those days.

@critaquil5011

2 жыл бұрын

that sounds like some glorious ev testing that I wish I had the patience for

@kerbonaut2059

2 жыл бұрын

man out here with the emvee ev spreads

@jouheikisaragi6075

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds like a Romhack Set

@dqeqw8369

2 жыл бұрын

chinese sitrus talonflame

My favorite trick in Gen 5 that I came up with was Light Ball on Tornadus. Most people would switch in something to check him, and I would use fling to chuck Light Ball and paralyze them. This also opened up my Acrobatics to do more damage and legit no one ever expected it. Was it optimal? Not really, but it is what got me into competitive Pokemon.

@mariojordan9543

2 жыл бұрын

Omg that sounds really cool actually.

@leahcarson1822

2 жыл бұрын

And I bet you had so much more fun with that than an optimized strat

@zachv183

2 жыл бұрын

Dude this is actually so fucking cool

@usernametaken017

2 жыл бұрын

Fling is such a cool move, opens up a lot of interesting (niche) strats

@ewanphilip5604

2 жыл бұрын

@@usernametaken017 I found Fling to be quite useful in Gen 4 on Poison Heal Breloom. You can Spore something, then you're poisoned with Toxic Orb. Then often an opponent will send in Rotom as it deals with Breloom pretty well and then you smack it with a super-effective Fling which, while only a 30BP move with Toxic Orb, will badly poison the opponent with better accuracy than Toxic. It also gets around the Rotom tricking a choice item onto you as you'll fling the choice item

Interesting to note: Berserk Gene *is* referenced in later games, specifically Detective Pikachu. The drug "R" is said to be made from it.

@critaquil5011

2 жыл бұрын

god damm I forgot the detective pikachu was a game like a year before it was a movie

@thetreyceratops2242

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, that was sick to have it not only mentioned again, but a major plot point

@SadIsMe1055

19 күн бұрын

My new headcanon is that Berserk gene was outlawed which is why we don't find it anymore.

Scrunguschu was actually kind of broken though ngl

@Red-yt2dk

Жыл бұрын

Goddamn that's obviously what he said now that I've read it I kept thinking it was "Strongestchu" :|

Item Clause is one of my favorite parts of Vgc, it really forces you to really consider your team comp and item usage because you can only use an item once on your team

@DeathScyther006

Жыл бұрын

Item Clause is something I used to hate about VGC back around 2011/12 when I started, but I think it's fine now that there are so many good items in the newer games.

Important update! Gems have been banned in gen 5 OU. While it does kinda suck to lose them in the one gen they were available, they've been pretty toxic for a bit, but recently a sizable amount of high level team builders started making hyper offense teams bases around abusing them that were pretty much unstoppable without seriously crippling yourself against anything that wasn't a hyper offense gem abuse team, so yeah, bye - bye somehow more broken z-crystals

Berserk gene with tangled feet would have been hilarious to see. Also probably ban worthy. Starting with an SD and Double team

@NotableElectronicSounds

2 жыл бұрын

Tangled feet is actually 3 double teams lol

@shirshobanerjee7751

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely would be banned (evasion clause)

@spindash64

2 жыл бұрын

Angry panicked Dodrio noises

@somechupacabrawithinternet8866

Жыл бұрын

i will call that strat cuntfusion

@tysondennis1016

Жыл бұрын

Same with Own Tempo and Unburden. Imagine Sand Rush Dracovish on Mist with the Berserk Gene…

Some bizarre facts about type-enhancing items, specifically those enhancing Normal-type moves. In Gen II, there are two items, yes, *two*, that boost the power of the holder's Normal-type moves by 10%: the Pink Bow and the Polkadot Bow. Then Gen III happened and for some reason, instead of keeping either item, Game Freak created a third one, the Silk Scarf, which has the exact same effect as the Pink Bow and the Polkadot Bow. And to think as of Gen VIII, the Fairy type is still lacking an item with a similar effect...

@BigYellowSilly

2 жыл бұрын

I never knew Gen 8 had no item like that, that's super odd but at the same time Fairy is busted enough as is lmao

@WhimsicottFanatic

2 жыл бұрын

@Bel Especially odd since they could easily head over to Pokemon Tower and dig up the ol' Pink Bow and, much like what was done with a handful of former Normal-type 'mons, make it Fairy-type related

@_lostglory

2 жыл бұрын

@Bel yeah this is actually super weird. Fairy Plate is now the only plate in the games because of this.

@Deadflower019

Жыл бұрын

@@WhimsicottFanatic It's pink and it's cute, what more does Game Freak want.

@Robbie_Haruna

11 ай бұрын

​@deadlyqueen3766 Are plates just not a thing anymore? I don't keep up with the newest gen. What about Arceus?

My favorite niche item is the Custap Berry, a pinch berry that gives your move priority. It's best known for being used on Wobbuffett, which upon getting to low health can use Destiny Bond, which will gain priority and activate before the opponent's move, potentially scoring a free KO. It's also used on Wynaut on occasion, but since it's much less bulky it's more likely to get OHKOed.

@BigYellowSilly

2 жыл бұрын

I remember using that on something for a priority Explosion after laying hazards, that was mad fun

@supernutz1262

2 жыл бұрын

Custap was also on Skarmory lead HO in Gen 5 to set up Stealth Rock, live a hit with Sturdy, eat the berry and then get Spikes.

@Pika250

2 жыл бұрын

I remember taking a level 1 yamask which had custap. It was on a level 1 only team, but I used it in another context as well.

One I'm really fond of is gen 6 Kingdra. With the changes made to how Critical Hit boosting stages work, a Sniper Kingdra that uses Focus Energy while holding Scope Lens will _always_ crit after the Focus Energy. Cue Draco Meteor crit spam. It's not even that good, but man is it fun.

@victory8928

2 жыл бұрын

Gen 8 inteleon does something similar but without dragon meteor. Damn is it fun to run

@usernametaken017

2 жыл бұрын

Name the kingdra "fair & balanced"

@cyanideytcuriousseadoggo

2 жыл бұрын

@@usernametaken017 a tf2 joke?

@usernametaken017

2 жыл бұрын

@@cyanideytcuriousseadoggo yes

@funnycat4241

2 жыл бұрын

People have been doing this with inteleon for awhile

Another more modern niche of not holding an item: plenty of Pokemon in lower Sw/Sh tiers like running no item to better counter Knock Off and Poltergeist. [If you're not familiar, Poltergeist is a 110 BP physical Ghost-type move introduced as a tutor in Sword and Shield's DLC that attacks the opponent with their held item, only if they're holding an item. Its distribution is entitely limited to Mew, the Rotoms, and Ghost-types that aren't named Mimikyu, Dragapult, Aegislash, or Spectrier. It's not very common in high tiers since there aren't a lot of incredible users of the move, but it's more than capable of tearing through teams in places like NU] Plenty of physical walls like Vileplume and Appletun can go itemless to avoid being smacked around by Knock Off, a move which is arguably at its strongest with the lack of Mega Stones and Z-Crystals, and a ton of Psychics and Ghosts will sometimes hold no item in order to not be weak to Poltergeist. In general, the lower down the tiering ladder you go, the greater diversity in items

@shiney4709

2 жыл бұрын

That's true, I personally used no item Dhelmise to avoid beeing smacked by Poltergeist Golurks

@Aquilenne

2 жыл бұрын

Xatu in NU seem to pretty much entirely run no item to deal with non-trick variants of Golurk.

@tdawgmaster1729

Жыл бұрын

I like running Poltergeist on Shedinja in OU, as it's a strong physical Ghost STAB that doesn't proc rocky helmet/flame body/etc. Yes I run Shedinja in OU, it's fun as hell to force a hard switch

(Tauros named “Otis for NASB”) Nice. Also, never considered the bluffing that the Expert Belt could facilitate, that’s pretty interesting.

@WilfredCthulu

2 жыл бұрын

How would you feel if they added Eugene instead?

@kimyona9746

2 жыл бұрын

Belt is pretty good on dracozolt

@CrazedKasaJizo

2 жыл бұрын

I like expert belt on Golurk, not for high ladder competitive play, just to mess with people because Golurk gets absolutely Bananas coverage, really fun to fake a trick set.

Did Big Yellow give me permission to use Oran Berry Blissey to see if it would develop the metagame?

@BigYellowSilly

2 жыл бұрын

Go Top the ladder Believe in the berry

@tr4shpanda

2 жыл бұрын

ORAN BERRY BLEESEY??!?? Oran berry garbodor

@An_Entire_Lime

2 жыл бұрын

Blissey does work well with berry

@jotarokujo3603

2 жыл бұрын

Ah good old endeavour Blissey. Works well with berri.

There is actually one strat with normal gem in more recent gens, with Fake Out + Unburden for a one turn guaranteed speed boost unless the opponent has the rare Inner Focus

@ILikeCrunchyWater

2 жыл бұрын

Inner focus won't stop the normal gem from going off since the damage still happens even though they won't be stunned. Queenly Majesty, Psychic Terrain, or ghost typing will, though. Also I absolutely hate fighting hitmonlee, it's got like 6 different strong offensive sets that you need to guess and react to. Ghost switchin's decent for many of them (reckless HJK, fake out normal gem, white herb+CC, etc.) but will also typically immediately die to choice band knockoff or white herb + curse knock off.

@mario-nk7be

2 жыл бұрын

Hitmonlee is the only mon that ran non flying gem on unburden sets (probs bc it doesn't learn acrobatics) and only did so in gen 5 and somewhat in gen 6, although in the latter it wasn't its best set. In gen 7 its unburden sets ran curse+white herb to trigger unburden and in gen 8 it uses terrain seeds like hawlucha

@ILikeCrunchyWater

2 жыл бұрын

@@mario-nk7be I played a ton of gen7ru, though most of it admittedly at and below 1500. Normal Gem Hitmonlee was maybe a third of the sets that I saw; completely free setup does have a real niche over curse, though I agree curse (or CC) is overall better, especially since hitmonlee's set variety should be enough by itself to generate free turns for you against cautious opponents.

@bungusmcchungus

2 жыл бұрын

normal gem fake out hitmonlee is like... bad though. curse white herb is way better and both are so much worse than terrain seeds

@FlareBlitzBanana

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I remember hitmonlee running it all the time

Two super niche items are TR71 and TR43. Fling is a pretty cool move that can have 130 base power if you're using Iron Ball, but that halves your speed. In Gen 8, Fling will copy the base power of the move that the TR has (TR71 is Leaf Storm and TR43 is Overheat). Because of this you can get a max-power fling without halving your speed.

@critaquil5011

2 жыл бұрын

I actually didnt know about the tr fling thing, that's really cool!

@ElliottDent

2 жыл бұрын

The other cool use of Fling (used to be) Dread Plate. It had a similar interaction to Flying Gem Acrobatics, where the Plate would boost Fling's power from 90 to 108. Not on par with Iron Ball, but without the speed drop. I used it once or twice on some wacky unburden sets.

I actually did something not unlike the Leftovers-Thief interaction in Gen 8 some time ago! See, Knock Off is so powerful in Gen 6-onwards that some Pokemon opt to just not run an item specifically so they can take Knock Off more effectively. Slowbro was among these Pokemon, being a physical wall that is also weak to Knock Off. I was using Slowbro on a team with Indeedee-M, a Pokemon with the Psychic Surge ability. Psychic Surge causes the Psychic Terrain field condition when the Pokemon is sent into battle; Indeedee-M could use it with an attack called Expanding Force to put out some pretty solid damage. But terrains also trigger specific Seed items; one-use items that boost a defensive stat when the Pokemon is sent out into a particular terrain. The only one that ever usually sees use is Electric Seed on Hawlucha so it can trigger Unburden and get the Acrobatics boost when paired with Tapu Koko, itself an example of a niche item application. So, I slapped a Psychic Seed on my Slowbro. The end result was the same Knock Off resistance as running no item, plus a Sp. Defense boost the first time I sent it into battle. Paired quite nicely with the pressure put on by Future Sight, even if it ultimately wasn't game-changing. Experiment, kids! You might end up advancing the meta, or at least coming up with some heat anti-meta trick that ends up actually being decent.

@bungusmcchungus

2 жыл бұрын

People usually like colbur berry for that purpose because it's basically the same thing but the initial knock off is way weaker. No item is more for poltergeist than knock off if it's ever ran

@ptylio6149

2 жыл бұрын

I paired Hawlucha with Pincurchin for the same effect!!

@that_dwayneee

2 жыл бұрын

Slowbro-g used to run no item when it was in a lower tier (I believe ru) because Golurk was so terrifying due to stab poltergeist

@DeathScyther006

Жыл бұрын

No item is for Poltergeist. Colbur Berry is for Knock Off.

Throat spray is a very fun niche item w shit it’s genuinely good on. It gives u a special attack boost when using a sound move so many boomburst mons like to use it but also: clangorous soul is a sound move too and on Kommo-o the one mon who uses the move, it’s insane

@boxofturtles761

2 жыл бұрын

Throat spray was made for toxtricity, it runs boomburst and overdrive, and has the ability punk rock which boosts sound moves

Little correction for the gen 6 Normal Gem. It was used by one single pokemon very rarely because it has a better set with White Herb for the same ability. Hitmonlee could use Fake Out+Normal Gem to activate Unburden. However, it's far outclassed by White Herb+Curse because you actually boost your stats. But yeah, that's literally the only use for Normal Gem, activating Unburden, which other items do far better.

@Unknown_Gamer_NL

2 жыл бұрын

1 little correction, while it is true that hitmonlee used that in Gen 7, it actually can't learn curse in Gen 6. (even though it gets it via Gen 2 transfer, it is for some reason not obtainable in gen 6)

10:10 yet another reason why Gen 5 is goated. The later gym leaders, Elite 4 members and post game bosses all had good relevant items on their pokemon that actually had an impact

@BigYellowSilly

2 жыл бұрын

Fr Gen 5 was tough at points and it was great to see

@shytendeakatamanoir9740

2 жыл бұрын

Cheren as well in BW.

@shytendeakatamanoir9740

2 жыл бұрын

They also uses Items quite creatively too. My favorite set is Iris Challenge Mode Lapras@Zoom Lens Hydro Pump/Thunder/Blizzard/Sing. Zoom Lens boost your Accuracy by 20% if you're slower, so Lapras will take a hit and then either put you to sleep or hit you with a really powerful Move. Not sure how meta it is, but it's quite fun.

@Pika250

2 жыл бұрын

bdsp? looking at certain sets belonging to especially the endgame bosses, particularly elite four and cynthia

@theapexsurvivor9538

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pika250 yeah, but you can just trip while walking down the stairs then proceed to Arthur Dent your way passed the all of that if you really want to, so it only half counts.

Not sure if it's niche since honestly it's pretty terrible but I used to run a set with Shuckle using Binding Band. It would double the damage of binding moves damage and Shuckle happens to get 3 of them. Infestation, Wrap, and Sand Tomb and the 4th move would either be Toxic, Rest, or Power Trick depending what I was feeling. The idea was assuming you landed all 3 hits the opponent would have taken a minimum of 6/8th of their health of damage along with the initial hits and would die on turn 4. Binding Band was buffed to do 1/6th so on the 3rd turn assuming they didn't heal or you missed you should be able to kill them. The main idea being Shuckle should be bulky enough to survive, people would immediately try to Taunt it to shut it down and getting you a free turn, and they'd be trapped so they couldn't switch out. Of course there's a lot wrong with it like the low accuracy of Wrap, the fact if they're immune to Wrap/Sand Tomb you're down a move, if they have any recovery, and of course the threat of them setting up on you. But it was still a fun set to pull out on friends and troll with, even sometimes on those online competitions.

@BigYellowSilly

2 жыл бұрын

This sounds so evil I need to try this sometime lmao

Gradually working my way through the Big Yellow filmography and I gotta say it’s rewarding

It’s funny how Beserk Gene is just Swagger.

@bewill5121

2 жыл бұрын

Swagger on *yourself*, which is even funnier

Big Yellow: *mentions most items return every gen* BDSP: “Ha! We’ll get rid of Assault Vest and Eviolite”

15:19 i like how he doesn't even react to the fact that he called the pokemon Obamasnow like it's most normal thing ever

@fifaworldcup1994

2 жыл бұрын

And you see everyone giving MDB shit for it. Really makes you think...

I was literally just thinking about this topic today while building a quick claw Kingler

The Magneton/Skarmory match up reminded me of the Shed Shell item to counter trapping abilities. It was an interesting dynamic of having a rarely used item for such an oppressive ability

@ShiningJudgment666

10 ай бұрын

Yet it became more common as trapping strategies became more oppressive.

What's weird about the idea of own tempo + berserk gene is that there aren't that many Pokémon with the ability that would greatly benefit from it. If it were both attack and special attack raised by 2 stages (and then confused) then axing it would make more sense.

@ChillavaKirby

2 жыл бұрын

They probably just decided it wasn’t really a fun item to begin with.

@FlareBlitzBanana

2 жыл бұрын

It kinda would’ve been cool in gen 3 specifically because only lickitung and spinda would’ve benefitted it, and the idea of spinda going berserk and sweeping teams is hilarious, even if would likely not work due to both mons having abysmal speed.

@caldw615

2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't people try using Trick to force it onto an opponent like a permanent Swagger effect? It's already a luck based setup since your Pokémon might just keep hitting itself in confusion over and over anyway but if you do pull it off now your opponent is stuck with a perma-Swagger confused state. Swagger was banned a while back and I imagine people trying to avoid the ban by using the Berserk Gene and Trick in a similar way would get it banned anyway. Like imagine a prankster user like Liepard getting lucky on turn one and managing to Trick the Gene onto you even if you outspeed it. Then you're just stuck with this confused mon on your team waiting for it to die when it's out or trying to brute force through the confusion to do something. Throw it on a special attacker or an opponents wall especially and you've essentially gimped a core member of their team in a very luck based and annoying way as even if they try to power through the confusion they're unlikely to have a physical move to even benefit from it. Granted these are later gens but I imagine a few Pokémon with Prankster/Unaware could troll with it and make every game against them using the combo a dice roll.

@Flaming_Rok

2 жыл бұрын

@@caldw615 Berserk Gene is activated and consumed when the Pokemon comes into battle, but a Pokemon with Klutz could make use of it.

@caldw615

2 жыл бұрын

@@Flaming_Rok Ah I wasn't aware it was actually consumed. Still a Klutz Trick user could make usage of it for a luck based strategy to piss the opponent off like you said.

I’m proud to report that through my time playing Gen 2, I finally found someone who ran Berserk Gene, and it was on a Blissey of all things!

@jaxsomon3333

Жыл бұрын

That blisseys going places

@rappingtoad6168

7 ай бұрын

Now I imagine a muscular, high testosterone blissey at the gym

All I want for you is to get a 36 hour special on curiosity stream, or Netflix, talking about pokemon

I really don't watch Pokémon content often, but whenever I do, I always find myself binging your videos. Thanks for all the good content man.

Black glasses, the dark type boosting item is used in gen 8 over Life Orb on Bisharp, even though the boost is less adamant+black glasses is more than enough most of the cases and the lack of recoil lets bisharp stay against some not so strong fairies, survive moonblast and hit them with iron head

@DeathScyther006

Жыл бұрын

That was more common in gen 6 and 7 because Bisharp had Pursuit and you might reliably see triple dark + Iron Head

@DeathScyther006

Жыл бұрын

there has generally been a trend away from life orb and into items that offer no draw back in recent years though. I think Boots made people realize how good it is not to have your pokemon take chip damage.

My favorite niche item is light ball There’s actually a ton of random shit that occasionally runs light ball with fling in BSS to surprise something with paralysis. It’s super annoying but honestly kinda cool when you see it work

I will say that in the recent games, they have given the boss Trainers held items. I mean, look at Cynthia's BDSP team compared to her DP team and it's almost night and day in terms of how viable either team is in competitive (provided you don't change a single thing)

A fun example in Gen 8 (which I know wasn't covered but is cool enough to mention) is that some boosting Galarian Slowbro variants run Quick Claw. If you run it alongside Quick Draw, the chance is around 44% to activate one of the two in any given turn. This can completely turn the tides against using fast aggression to try and beat or force out its boosting sets. Normally an item with more consistency to it would be more ideal, but this is just consistent enough to have merit. It currently runs this alongside Nasty Plot in UU and used to run it with Belly Drum in OU, with some pretty hilarious tournament matches coming from that.

The red bingus deserves a video of its own, to be fair.

@BigYellowSilly

2 жыл бұрын

History of Red Bingus in competitive Pokemon

@Materialist39

2 жыл бұрын

How GOOD was Scrunguschu ACTUALLY?

Generation Fuck was the absolute peak of competitive Pokémon. Hands down.

@rappingtoad6168

7 ай бұрын

I liked the new tier smogon added to it, FU

protective pads on blaziken is really cool imo.... you can just endure to get to 1hp (or sd if you expect a switch/ weak move)...get to +1 speed... have a 200bp reversal... bait in the rocky helmet mon or rough skin tank and kill it off. Once the opponent is out of priority users (or has one in the back) he will gladly send whatever is left of ferro, corvi or chomp to end you and save his offensive pressure. This little tech turned around more games for me than you would expect.

As someone who has played competitive mons for a number of years and knows a lot of the game’s mechanics these videos still manage to be super interesting. Keep up the great work!

In Gen 5, I *loved* giving Forretress a Red Card due to how common lead Volcarona was.

I disagree I really like the knock off buff what I don’t like is the crazy distribution of it.

@BigYellowSilly

2 жыл бұрын

FACTS I should have mentioned that that's my biggest issue with it, it was so cool when having the move could make a mon viable

@YouThinkWho

2 жыл бұрын

Well I hope you are enjoying BDSP cause Weavile with no knock off hurts my soul

@olivergro7105

Жыл бұрын

@@YouThinkWho im happy ive never bought it after hearing that... what have they done:::

@DeathScyther006

Жыл бұрын

I thought Knock Off was great in gen 7 when there are always two mons on a given team that can switch into it and not lose an item. In gen 6 it was definitely on the strong side, and gen 8/9 its OP.

@auroraourania7161

21 күн бұрын

​@That's absolutely true, but since they also introduced one of the most OP items ever with heavy duty boots in Gen 8, I'm terrified to think of how hard it would be to break us all team if you couldn't remove some of their boots. DeathScyther006

Porygon doing part of the LTG rant had me dead

Extremely stupidly niche things in Pokemon are probably some of the funniest things to learn about. See also my single most favorite example of this, Ariados being viable in Gen IV Ubers against Darkrai. It is absolutely the stupidest shit I've ever heard and I _love it._ I'm picturing legendary of nightmares Darkrai sitting there just nervously leering at Spid.

@shudeepta

2 жыл бұрын

Also Ariados had a pretty good match up against Deoxys-Speed which was probably the most common lead in gen 4 ubers (Ariados also has toxic Spikes so it actually had a niche in gen 4 ubers as a lead)

@DMSwordsmaster

2 жыл бұрын

@@shudeepta Yeah, that's it. It kind of fucked the common DeoSpeed over while also being capable of screwing with Darkrai by busting its Focus Sash with Shadow Sneak and getting a Toxic Spike of its own before croaking, while being unable of being put to sleep thanks to Insomnia. Basically it was really good against two of the most common leads in the Ubers tier. And that's absolutely _hilarious._

It's funny because even if Explosion was still an amazing and common enough move to warrant dedicating an item (Normal Gem) for, it would still be blatantly outclassed by Life Orb since the move KOs you anyway (unless you were trying to bluff I guess). That being said I have seen Normal Gem Explosion Lando-T this gen even, so the madmen are still out there.

@NotSpecialDude

2 жыл бұрын

Considering in vgc and bss, there are item clauses. I'd can totally buy that people would use the gem on the dedicated exploder so that the orb could be on a longer living attacker.

Back in gen 5 I used choice specs Blissey for a couple of weeks in ou battles. Several times I switched into a Latias or something and the players would use Trick, and they would be confused afterwards. It was pretty funny.

I would like to thank you Big Yellow. My DPP OU Life Orb Empoleon and Choice Scarf Porygon-Z will not be appreciated in its time, but will be vindicated by history.

I absolutely wish that Berserk Gene stuck around just because of how much I love Tangled Feet.

"Gems being niche" is so funny in retrospect

Some other Niche items to mention would be the Lens items (zoom, scope, wide) especially on mons running a lot of less accurate moves or high crit chance moves, very niche but I've seen it a few times especially the accuracy ones with pokemon running Stone edge. Also a fun little tech I'd do from time to time in gen 5 was Fling Iron ball Bisharp for a 1 time 130 base power stab dark type physical attack, managed to trip up a few people with it for some spicy OHKO's. Even then Iron ball is super niche and honestly outright bad in my opinion since it Halves the holder's speed.

Red Card is pretty interesting aswell: is a type of consumable held item introduced in Generation V. If the holder is hit by another Pokémon's damaging move, it switches out the attacker. I have met few Eject Button users too: is a type of consumable held item introduced in Generation V. It switches out the holder if it is hit by a damaging move.

@nicocchi

2 жыл бұрын

These are definitely more common in SwoSh VGC to screw Dynamax. You Trick the Eject Button on them and then yeet them away

@jasonajucum9114

2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes in OU I like bluffing light clay on my klefki so when they hit my klefki they get swapped out and is funnier if they set up beforehand

@kimyona9746

2 жыл бұрын

Mew commonly runs red card to get stealth rock and spikes up

@blaacksugar7714

2 жыл бұрын

Eject button is great for teams that have intimidate users.

I doubt the Berserk Gene was axed for balance reasons... GF has some really bizarre priorities concerning balance, and a one-off item in one generation isn't gonna be a target for balance adjustments. I think it's more likely that there was a mewtwo scenario planned but scrapped, and its programmed held item was left in rather than scrapped as well The idea for Berserk Gene would live on in Swagger, but the item itself would likely be seen as pointless, rather than OP

I just found this channel and I love these types of competitive analysis/discussion videos! Im mostly a VGC guy so these types of videos for singles is super interesting!

Not even mentioning the Little Timmy who was running Big Root Nidoqueen smh. (The backstory for this if you don't know, someone matched into this little kid on Showdown who was just using whatever because he wanted to because he was a little kid. His opponent posted screenshots to 4chan. Don't know what the intentions were, but the people in that thread crowned him a god amongst men and went and spectated his matches and trash talked his opponents until many of them gave up. It's a wholesome story)

@wolverinesigma2565

2 жыл бұрын

Where can I find this story

@sketch-eee4165

2 жыл бұрын

That's actually adorable and I wanna read that story at some point.

Charcoal Moltres is used pretty often in GSC though I don't know what the power boost actually allows it to hit. Definitely the biggest use for the type boosting items.

@SPZ-gv2on

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure it's just for general damage. Molt in GSC is just good at spamming fire moves and being hard to switch in to, and since it's kind of hard to get in, it wants as much damage as possible when it does get in.

@shellnut8224

2 жыл бұрын

It lets it 2HKO Snorlax with Fire Blast in sun with spikes up.

I still remember using a leichi berry on golem in a modern generation (I don't remember which one, probably gen 7) Basically you would use rock polish and hope that the opponent would hit you hard enough to activate sturdy and make you eat the leichi berry so you had a +2 speed and +1 attack golem, I even gave it sucker punch to beat other people's priority moves Good times

@binks1370

2 жыл бұрын

wouldn’t weakness policy rock polish golem just be better since you would be +2 in both attack and speed

@DeathScyther006

Жыл бұрын

My friends used Weakness Policy Golem to the same effect

I love these new types of videos, they're so chill and perfect

Once again, I enter an uneducated poke-scrub here for the fighting games, and leave an uneducated poke-scrub having watched a 22 minute video, hitting the thumbs up, and leaving a comment for the algorithm. For real though, as someone that has no real interest in the subject matter, I was once again entertained and informed. Good Work!

@BigYellowSilly

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I really do love when people who wouldn't normally be interested in this kinda stuff happen to enjoy it, feels good

@kangstakangsta

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigYellowSilly Just so you know what I appreciate so much about your content. I'm assuming that you're approaching your pokemon content with someone exactly like me in mind. I'm explicitly from your FGC audience, so rather then fill your video with impregnable jargon and already assume that I would have any prior knowledge, you really set out to educate exactly why everything works holistically in the bigger picture so I get a better sense of what's what. It gives me the feeling like you know that I'm brand new to things so you're catching me up from scratch with brief history lessons in between tactical maneuvers like I walked into a real life pokemon gym just in WAY over my head and you took pity on me.

when i used to play gen 8 i messed around with the new items it had to offer, like blunder policy (+2 speed after a miss) or throat spray (+1 spatk after using a sound move), my favorite users of them being hustle dracozolt and the powerful toxtricity, who even had a cool niche at some point using a mixed shift gear set, where it could smack blisseys with drain punch and melt every other thing w/ overdrive and boomburst. bonus thing: i really loved using specs magnezone with teleport to fill in its last move slot, so i could swap into a mon mag threatens, bait the switch, and teleport out (gen 8 changed the mechanics of port, making it a negative priority pivot move, pretty funny)

Don't forget about Fling Light Ball, aka the scuffed version of Thunder Wave. It was a good meme back before nuzzle was so widespread.

@BigYellowSilly

2 жыл бұрын

Fling is the funniest move I wish it was better lmao

You know it’s good video when you fall asleep watching it and then come back and watch it again when you’re actually awake

Soft Sand is one of my favorite niche items to run specifically on Lando-T. You can run smack down as another niche move to go all in on EQ, letting you run your other 2 moves as support/coverage or good good ol' uturn.

Never thought I’d hear my favorite Pokémon say a LTG line

@BlaximilianD00d

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely a gem for pokémon fans that know LTG.

One of my favourite uses of a niche item is electric seed on hawlucha. When paired with tapu koko to set up electric terrain it lets you activate unburden and get the boost to acrobatics immediately. I enjoyed this so much that at the beginning of gen 8 before the tapus were added back I tried to recreate it with pincurchin because it's the only other pokemon with electric surge

@mortomultiverse8778

2 жыл бұрын

Well, it's not niche at all. Pretty sure it's the primary OU set, and Koko is his best partner. But besides, it's an awesome set.

@goronberry

2 жыл бұрын

@@mortomultiverse8778 Thats my bad, I phrased it wrong. I meant that the electric seed has little to no use outside of this one situation not that the strategy itself is uncommon (Because it is very common on hawlucha sets)

@mortomultiverse8778

2 жыл бұрын

@@goronberry Yeah, got it. There's also a pretty cool set with Koko that runs calm mind, stored power, thunderbolt and roost with the electric seed. Of course it's not the most optimal set, but when it works it's pretty fire

@kimyona9746

2 жыл бұрын

Misty seed is the only other seed i see hawlucha run

Another funny niche item: Shell Bell. It can be used by level 1 Pokemon with endeavor and sturdy (Togedemaru, Aron) in order to bring them back to full and refilling the Sturdy ability (unlike Focus Sash, Sturdy can activate more than once) while dealing huge damage to the other Pokemon.

@BigYellowSilly

2 жыл бұрын

I've done this with Aron but had no idea you could do the same with Togedemaru, might have to try that

@WohMi

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigYellowSilly todegemaru arguably does it better, with access to spiky shield, it can do it more than once

@peteypariah6603

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigYellowSilly Another nice thing about toge is that u can use fake out with shell bell to restore your sturdy after taking stealth rock damage.

Thief is so fun in Gen 2. I love running it on lead Jynx, especially since it forces a lot of Snorlax switches.

I wish own tempo berserk gene existed, it sounds SO funny

@rjante2236

2 жыл бұрын

Even better, Tangled Feet Bersek Gene. I'm just imagining a pissed off Dodrio tripping all over the place avoiding Rock Slides and Ice Beams.

ayyy always like to see pokemon content from you. Hope you make more soon, they are great fun to watch as a pokemon fan.

My favorite goofy set with a niche item was subseed cacturne with brightpowder in the sand. Quite a bit like the froslass set discussed here, though it uses focus punch and seed chip to get it's KOs. In gen 4 it can run sucker punch as well.

Big props for liking the Boxing Dino Roo Shroom thing. Fave of mine as well.

Power herb is a niche item I've used in the past, especially before Gen 7 when we had z moves. It's especially good for getting in a solar beam when using a fire type, using sky attack on hawlucha before the terrain seeds were created. Then again, maybe these days it's not considered niche given geomancy and meteor beam?

@SPZ-gv2on

2 жыл бұрын

It's the standard on a good few mons rn so I would agree.

@kimyona9746

2 жыл бұрын

Power herb became one of the better items on nihilego due to meteor beam

@shudeepta

2 жыл бұрын

@@kimyona9746 also xerneas exists

@DeathScyther006

Жыл бұрын

I used to love power herb heatran

The brightpowder percentage u said was right on the money. That's impressive, I've been working on my mental math for a little bit and I woulda not known it was that 😅. Good vid. Seen it a few times already but keep it up

Gotta say I absolutely love your content

"StrongestChu can use the Red Bingus really well in Generation Fuck" The hard hitting commentary we come to Big Yellow for.

I know you said that hail has never really been good, but it's been seeing some use recently in OU (and some LC). Mainly in tandam with the Slush Rush ability, Aurora Veil, Weather Ball, and Arctozolt's 'Bolt Beak' move (Sometimes Arctovish and Fishious Rend). It's so cool to see what had always been the "worst" weather see use in top tier OU matches!

@BigYellowSilly

2 жыл бұрын

That's sick, I'm not familiar with Gen 8 but seeing something like Hail put in work is awesome!

@SPZ-gv2on

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigYellowSilly It's crazy. It's actually considered by many to be the best weather right now. Arctozolt is so dangerous that just alolan ninetales + zolt is enough to make hail worth it without wasting a lot of team slots on something with hard checks like sand has.

@shellnut8224

2 жыл бұрын

Only took adding a mon with a spammable Z-Move and BoltBeam coverage that gets a speed boost in Hail to make it viable.

@jacksonsmith2955

2 жыл бұрын

@@shellnut8224 ehhh that's slightly disingenuous. I mean its stats are shit, it gets outrun by literally any scarfer even in the hail, hell it has to run jolly just to outrun dragapult (which can potentially OHKO it with draco / fire blast) and zeraora (which is immune to bolt beak and can also OHKO it with CC), it's weak to rocks so you either have to run boots and not have a power boost or just have it die super quickly, also bolt beak gets neutered by priority

I had a friend who would run normal gem ambipom with fake out and then u-turn. Not the best but definitely could be a big chunk of free damage against some pokemon.

@elneco4654

2 жыл бұрын

IIRC Ambipom actually uses Silk Scarf to take advantage of STAB Technician Fake Out and Double Hit but I'm not sure either.

@DeathScyther006

Жыл бұрын

This was pretty viable in gen 6 because most teams didn't have pokemon faster than base 110 outside of scarf. It wasn't that great, but it was viable. Also notable is Ambipom's ability to 2hko Rotom-W with Double Hit if you run banded, but it needs adamant nature to guarantee so probably not worth it. Later gens see a lot more blistering fast pokemon, so Ambipom is way less usable.

Unrelated to competitive, but Berserk Gene was mentioned outside of Gold/Silver/Crystal. In Detective Pikachu, the Berserk Gene is included in the R drug, which make Pokemon into powerful but uncontrollable beasts.

@BigYellowSilly

2 жыл бұрын

That's really cool, kinda gives me ideas that the item was blacklisted in-universe for being potentially too dangerous or something

a niche strategy is to use choice band on a fast special attacker(like alakazam)who also runs trick. nobody can see this coming,and they are almost always forced to switch.

Scope Lens Kingdra/Drapion, and Fling + Lightball Weavile with Pickpocket Ability are my favorite

Hello Mr.Big Yellow. I'm am about to sub to your channel. Now I realize you're more of a fighting game analysis channel, which I can also appreciate, you have some the best history of competitive Pokemon I personally have ever seen. Hopping to see more in the future friend!

I remember seeing a fair bit of Unburden Fake Out Normal Gem Hawlucha in gen 6, because it would basically get a free agility into STAB Acrobatics. But that is literally the only instance of Normal Gem in gen 6 I can remember

Iron ball + Fling = YEET King's Rock or Razor Fang + Fling = free flinch. Fun to run on troll sets

Hey! Time ago I read Heatran Gen 4 sets in its smogon set, and this video reminded me of Magnyfying Glass Heatran. I should test that in this newer gen You improve your trapping move with 75% accuraty, and you increase your Toxic accuricy, since is now 90% accurate. Cool video lad, i like when you talk about pokemon :)

@BigYellowSilly

2 жыл бұрын

That's a cool idea actually, thanks!

this isnt an insult and i dont even know how i pronounce arceus, but your pronounciation of it fits your whole vibe so much

15:18 Obamasnow is my favourite hope-type Pokémon

I love skill link+King's rock. Its part of the reason why Cinccino is my favorite pokemon

@blaacksugar7714

2 жыл бұрын

I use mine with life orb.

Hey man just realized this is like the 3rd time I've watched this video lmao. Love your content a lot. Literally you play the same stuff as me so I feel identified with all the stuff you make. Don't ever stop pls. Just wanted to let you know that

Your videos are strangely just satisfying to watch. I've already seen this one but I'm here again. Don't ask me to explain it.

King's Rock FeelsGoodMan

@LakituAl

2 жыл бұрын

King's Rock Beat Up. I just think it's funny.

Kinda surprised you didn't bring up the Lopunny Swap strategy. Given its crazy good base speed, access to Switcheroo and Klutz it can easily dump an item like Iron Ball, Flame/Poison Orb or a Choice Item on a lead that really doesn't appreciate the sentiment.

@ultimaterecoil1136

2 жыл бұрын

That strats main use is assault vest trick to disable haze users on baton pass teams ( mainly pex

bro i just found your videos and straight up regardless of the info or how well theyre structured or whatever, i dont even stay for the pokemon content, your one liner deliveries are fucking gold. 100% might wanna persue stand up if youtube doesnt work out for ya man

I love your Pokemon content, please keep it up!

It's pretty unviable, but I've recently been having a lot of fun with custap berry on sturdy shuckle with power trick. If I'm lucky, it can knock out 2 of an opponent's pokemon. Custap berry is a really fun item, but it's kind of a shame that the priority it gives is actually only 1. If the opponent uses a priority move to off the one health shuckle, it will be completely stopped in its tracks.