If Tua is smart he takes a 3yr around 120-130 million and demands they invest in the O-Line then he’ll still be under 30 the cap will go up again and get the max on his next contract.

@swervinservin69

Ай бұрын

Some gets it. I'm not a dolphin fan but it would be smart of tua to get more protection

@kirkschaefer6863

Ай бұрын

@@swervinservin69 Lifelong Dolphins fan here. Would be best move for him and the organization!

@23kyd49

29 күн бұрын

He won’t. Athletes First are the Fn worst. They don’t give a damn about tomorrow or the team they’re shaking down.

@vivM.5497

17 күн бұрын

Gm never said hes not good enough.. cause he is.

correct me if Im wrong - but tagging Tua for 2 straight years absolutely eats 30%+ of the cap. He would be eligible for average of top 5 players at the position and you get no relief of the fake years at the end of the long term contract other teams have given their QB - not to mention having him play on his 5th year eats 23+ mil this year also - so how exactly is this so called GM planning to manage that situation ? its easy to create scenarios when you don't deal in facts - problem for the dolphins is tagging him is actually a HUGE problem from a cap perspective - signing him is far less of a problem and manageable - so in my opinion if they don't get a deal done their intention will be to pay someone else the following year OR pay tua way more because he has earned it - I can't argue with that logic, but its quite a game of chicken and if Tua does marginally better than last year - meaning pro bowl and great numbers but still doesn't win the "big games" then what ? now you are stuck paying him more than 55 full cap hit OR you are looking elsewhere and who exactly is going to be better? Is it any wonder this deal is taking a while ? this is the most vexing situation in the NFL full stop.

@1pardoner

Ай бұрын

Good comment

@belindagriffin5868

27 күн бұрын

exactly wouldn't it be easier to give him a contract he's happy with then renegotiate in 3 yrs like every team does we all know teams can get out of contracts pretty much when they want.

@user-qt3uw8zd2w

17 күн бұрын

would actually be just about 25 percent. the cap last year was over 230 mil.

@user-qt3uw8zd2w

17 күн бұрын

i say we trade him if he doesn't win us a ring .

Tom… don’t act like those concussions weren’t scary

@trashastrash9722

Ай бұрын

dont act like hes the only one to get AH concussion

@BlackfootBill

Ай бұрын

@@trashastrash9722 it was back to back TBIs and he was throwing up gang signs after his head bounced off the ground... its not just "aH CoNcUsSiOn"

If they don’t sign him they are making a huge mistake. Price goes up … team gets pissed … Tua balls out, draws his line, and walks like Wilkins.

Fins are now Bama Circa 2017-19 STACKED DEEP in talent

Amen. He’s Tua little. Tua late. He’s not worth $35million a year.

@roguebossa

Ай бұрын

Tua good for 35, up it up

This is just opinion-based only. I believe TUA hasn't had a contract signed yet cuz he wants top dog money and he believes he deserves it. Usually paying QBs on their second contract big money is for the future. Not what you did in the past. Herbert got a contract, burrows got a contract, Allen got a contract. these are guys that the franchises says you are out quarterbacks for the future not what you did yesterday.

Hopefully McDonald's has learned something in San Francisco if your QB isn't good enough you move on because Miami isn't winning anything with Tua behind center

@steventhomas524

Ай бұрын

McDonald's? HAHA. You know the team real well, huh?

@user-qb3vl7ru9f

Ай бұрын

Burger king should also get qb. Wtf we talking about here. Anyway just here to say tua is a top 5 qb .

@ep3360

Ай бұрын

Top 5 against teams with losing records. Tua would be a good back up, starter? Hell no! Check his stats against teams with winning records.

Every team is injured at the end of the year, hell the bills had the entire starting defense out. Injuries are used as a crutch in the this league

@SneakerGod22

Ай бұрын

This comment is very stupid. There is a reason you have starters and back ups if you lose a large amount of starting caliber players there is now a talent disparity which makes hard to win games! Back ups are back ups for a reason.

@173jaSon371

Ай бұрын

@@SneakerGod22 Nah he is right. Everyone is banged up after half a season of football. Brady won multiple super bowls playing through injury. That includes MCL sprains, huge gashes in his palm, rotator cuffs, etc. He also pulled off the 28-3 comeback with no Gronk, who is one of the biggest mismatches in the sports history. His backup, Martellus Bennett, did pretty well in his place. Another ring was from Malcolm Butler, maybe you've heard of the guy. He was not a starter, he was subbed in for that specific package. Depth is key still

@stolve8847

Ай бұрын

Chiefs and 9ers were coincidentally pretty healthy.

@stevecarey4740

Ай бұрын

@@SneakerGod22 yet teams with injuries find ways to win, depth does matter. Your mad that your team is filled with scrubs and it starts with the QB

@stevecarey4740

Ай бұрын

@@stolve8847 and it’s rare, probably first season in awhile that it happened like that

4 years/$200 mill with injury protection is fair.

@1pardoner

Ай бұрын

Lol no it isn’t at all. Tua would not and should not sign anything with injury protection. That’s a joke. If they won’t pay him what he’s worth you better believe 20 other teams will be beating down his door to sign him

@SycoticForeverNeverAF

24 күн бұрын

@@1pardonerNo they arent. Tua is a fraud carried by Hill. He’s enroute to be a career backup in 5 years lmao

Tua just does not win big Games, forget cold weather games. As a Dolphins fan I cringe when we go up against good teams, we lose, against bad teams we win. Then the injury aspect. Please make Tua prove he can win big games this year. Then pay him.

@scott7621

Ай бұрын

agree 1000% percent

All depends on they structure his contract

Tua signed a contract that pays him 24 million dollars in 2024. Done Deal. Let’s Go.

The plan from the get-go was to get the fastest receivers and running backs to fit this scheme. Which they did. Especially this upcoming year he has a paratha of talent around him. If Patrick Mahones had Miami's weapons KC would average 50 points a game. That there are a handful of QBs that can run this offensive system to perfection & TUA is one of them. I'm talking about running this particular scheme. When they signed Jonnua Smith they instantly have a triangle threat because they finally have the right type of tight end that fits the system. I would love to resign C Williams. ONLY if he's healthy. It would be huge to resign him. Wow! Before the injury he was having a pro bowl season..But again Miami always wins on paper in June and July. Position wise Miami is loaded. Really loaded!! Olympic track team

@scott7621

Ай бұрын

Allen, Rodgers, Herbert Burrow, Stafford, Mahomes, Jackson and a few others would all put up numbers that would dwarf what Tua did last year. The guy cant even crack 5000 yards nor 30 TDs with this offense and incredible skill players. And you are supposed to pay him top QB money?!?!? Nope, let him play his 5th year.

It's crazy to see these comments about a QB that has gotten better every yr. Name me a dolphin QB from the 2010s until now, which has played better than Tua?

@gonzolo4

Ай бұрын

Can’t name one since Marino. They need to pay Tua, he’s a legit QB.

@gueronopalero2416

Ай бұрын

After Dan the man, maybe fiedler had a couple of years of good football play... Tua has had a personal winning record every year since he's been in the league. 1st everyone said it was the Defense, and now its the offense coach, dude keeps winning overall... pay him

@werb24

Ай бұрын

He’s an average player in a great situation. I wouldn’t pay him bc you would basically guarantee mediocrity.

@MeauxGreenMusic

Ай бұрын

@@gueronopalero2416 omg, Fiedler sucked! We only won games bc our entire defense was Pro-Bowlers then we got Ricky lol.

@MeauxGreenMusic

Ай бұрын

@@werb24 #1 in yards #5 in TDs, #1 in deep ball accuracy, #1 in catchable deep pass, #3 in completion %, over 100 rating. yeah totally medicore.

Teams do not want to pay ahead and then pay ahead AGAIN later before the contract is up. If you believe in yourself you will take a contact at your current rate and renegotiate later. None of these contracts are set in stone. There's no reason for the dolphins not to pick up his five year option and kick this can 10 months down the road unless Tua sits or walks.

Tua will sign his contract this season. Tua has done a whole lot more with the Dolphins than any other QB1 has that has signed a contract. Prime example is Tua raised their talent level in 2020-2021 and in 2021-2022 seasons. The WRs that Miami had there at the time aren't in the NFL anymore other than Gesicki (who had the most receiving yards in his career with Tua) that's without anyone Tua DID ELEVATE THEIR WRs level and there's fans and media and people in general that WONT ADMIT THAT TUA ELEVATED THEIR LEVEL and Waddle who has set the franchise record with (3) 1000 yard seasons because of Tua!!! Not to mention in those 2 seasons the Miami Dolphins didn't have a OC that knew how to utilize these WRs and the QB1 how they should've and didn't have the coaching staff there either and now in the 2022-2023 and 2023-2024 seasons HC McDaniel brings in the COACHING STAFF that KNOWS how to work with EVERYONE and Tua's numbers show it!!! Tua is the QB1 and McDaniel has even said as well as QB Coach Bevell (who was Farve and Russell's QB Coach as well) Tua is the smartest QB1 that I've ever worked with and when they said that people take it mildly when they shouldn't because these type QB1s DON'T GROW ON TREES!!! Tua will be signed sooner rather than later because the Dolphins Organization know who they have here in Tua as a player and off the field person as a whole as well!!! Not signing him is dumbest move yet because then he's not flexible to move other players contracts around!!! Seriously let's think about this whole thing out first!! SMH!! Tua is a far better QB1 than anyone that has been signed so far there isn't any question there!! Tua is a TOP 5 QB1 NO QUESTION AND PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT TUA LIKE HE'S A QUESTION MARK!!! TUA HAS ELEVATED TYREEK!! TYREEK NEVER HAD 1700 yds and then have 1799 yds the very next season and Waddle missed games last season and still had over 1000 yds receiving. THE MEDIA AND FANS AND PEOPLE IN GENERAL NEED TO STOP IT WITH TUA BECAUSE TUA IS THE REAL DEAL!!! HE'S DONE IT WITH THE WORST OLINE IN THE ENTIRE NFL FOR HIS ENTIRE CAREER HERES THE WIN RATE 31st, 32nd,25th,31st NOT EVEN CLOSE TO AVERAGE AND NOT TO MENTION THE INTERIOR OLINE WAS DOWN TO THEIR 3rd string INTERIOR OLINE in 2023-2024 last 3 games Bills, Ravens, Cheifs!!! Keep that in mind as well. Fins Up

@BrettL250

Ай бұрын

As a diehard Buffalo Bills fan, I pray to God Miami signs him up and keeps him for as long as possible.

@173jaSon371

Ай бұрын

Lol WHAT? Hurts and Burrow went to super bowls. Allen went to an AFC championship game. Lamar has 2 MVP awards. Tua has 3 concussions. That's about the only stat he leads all those guys in.

@champ2233killad

Ай бұрын

@@173jaSon371 He literally beat all 3 of them in every major QB category last season you yapping

@scott7621

Ай бұрын

@@champ2233killad and if they were on this team with this coach and skilled players, they would have blown Tuas average numbers out of the water! Put the pipe down already son.

@fisherfoster6032

7 күн бұрын

“Tua has been better than any qb that’s signed yet” im sorry, excuse my goddamn French, but you seriously saying that tua is better than mahomes? Last time I checked, tua got absolutely slapped against kc and his only td was on a broken coverage. He couldn’t drive down the field or barely throw a ball past the line of scrimmage without it going into the dirt. He was easily the worst qb in the playoffs that year, and it showed. And before you use “well it was a cold game” excuse, literally the week before he had a chance to secure the division against the bills and absolutely failed. Tua is not top, he’s not top 10, and he’s barely even top 15

Not a fan of any teams, although I do follow the NFL. With the Tua situation, the Dolphins would be making a crucial mistake extending a contract. Let him prove it this year, if he doesn’t do anything let him walk. His stats are relatively high against teams under 500. I don’t care what you can do in September and October. Football in November and December is where it counts. When the elements are uncomfortable in rain and severe cold weather is where you prove yourself. The guy can’t find his identity, his hairstyle changes every year and his weight fluctuates. Tua will be playing in the UFL in the future. If not a backup somewhere or on a practice squad, this is his future.

They can’t let Tua play it out, because they don’t have the salary cap to do it.

Tua is not worth a max contract. I am a diehard dolphins fan, and I do not want to pay this guy...

@stolve8847

Ай бұрын

Nobody thought he should have gotten the Daniel Contract last year either. That contract was for 40 million a year. It was a top 10 QB contract at the time... times change quick though. I think Tua at 40m/year looks pretty good today.

@randyhiggins4086

Ай бұрын

Yeah ok…you sound more like a die hard unnamed source then a die hard fan!

@troyortiz2414

Ай бұрын

💯 I agree. He’s not good enough to win a championship. More wasted years with an average injury prone QB.

@torettomalachi2248

Ай бұрын

Lucky it isn’t your money🤣

I think he’s outplaying his contract. It’s a business but he’s worth more than 24 mil. Especially to the Dolphins. So it should be 50+. I’m sure his agents are pushing for 56 or more avg, but I think 55 is no insult.

@user-qt3uw8zd2w

17 күн бұрын

Tua is not worth 25 if he can't win us a ring. this should be a prove it year. SB win or move on and draft a big armed, 6'4 or taller qb next year

miami has a 3 yr window right now to win before a rebuild is needed so if Tua isn't that guy then who because last i checked Tom is not coming out of retirement to play for miami so it's either Tua or we are tanking for a QB next yr, so stop the games pay Tua put in some injury clauses and let go!!

We actually don’t have those images in her head

Let’s remember highest paid or one of them does not get you a superbowl per facts

Tua is OUR guy..sign him!!!!

Just pay him, you're going to anyway, who else you getting? Give him a decent O line and he'll set NFL records every year. Stop this nonsense, we need to get ready for the season..

If I were Tua there’s no way I’d play a snap this season w/o a new contract, it’s just too big of a risk for him (think Baker Mayfield). Now I don’t know how much he’s asking for, but I guarantee it’s only gonna get more & more expensive the longer they wait.

@WGB3019

Ай бұрын

I wonder if Connor Williams has any thoughts about waiting patiently and playing under a contract you outplayed.

Tua needs to show many things in my mind before he gets that bag. One, prove he can stay healthy for more than just one year in your career. Two, prove you can beat teams above .500. Three, prove you can win late in the season when it counts. Four, prove you can step up and win the big games, like when the conference and division were on the line. Five, prove you can play and win in cold weather. 0-6 in the coldest games he has played in is not gonna get you wins late in the season nor in the playoffs. Let him play his fifth year and prove he can improve in these important stats.

@Vette5577

25 күн бұрын

I completely agree with you he’s wanting the big money but not showing anything in 4 years, he’s pretty much a one dimensional qb now because he doesn’t do any running plays because of injuries concerns, he doesn’t carry the team at all when needed and always choke against better teams. F he wants the big money he’s has to play his 5 year and show that he’s worth it if not let him go and invest in someone else who will take the team farther in the future

Pay Tua let's get it done and move forward 🐬🆙

Must be TanneBUM

The Fins will pay Tua

If Trevor got 55ML Tua should at least get 50ML If I’m tua I won’t be greedy because if he plays without a contract in gets more head injuries he’s loosing out millions if I’m tua im 26 I’ll take a 45ML 4 year 180ML 130ML guaranteed play great ball 🏈 hit the open market at 30 in his prime in get the bigger bag but right now don’t be greedy secure the bag 💼 first

It’s all about the guarantee money. Everything else is BS. Give him a 4yr 200m fully guaranteed and call it a day.

2 doctors suggested to Tua he should retire. His family talked him into staying

@champ2233killad

Ай бұрын

This is a complete lie 😂😂😂. In fact it was the exact opposite lol, doctors told Tua he would be fine he just needed to be careful, while his family told him to consider retirement.

@brandonmcbroom9209

Ай бұрын

@@champ2233killad so why the second opinion by another doctor 🤔

@ddw3968

Ай бұрын

Why not, you should always get a second opinion for health related decisions

@steventhomas524

Ай бұрын

Every player in the NFL gets a pass on concussions, EXCEPT Tua, then they are so bad he should retire. Geez.

@champ2233killad

Ай бұрын

@@brandonmcbroom9209 Well first of all obviously to be safe lol secondly the first doctor was a team doctor (obviously the teams interest is a team's doctor number 1 priority) and the second doctor was a independent doctor

The Phins will have to pay some one if not Tua then who.

@user-ck9mu7zp9q

Ай бұрын

Invest it into the roster and go draft a prospect. The system mcdaniel runs is QB friendly. See Brock Purdey

@scott7621

Ай бұрын

@@user-ck9mu7zp9q a lot of QBs would look as good as Tua in this offense, and the actual ELITE QBs in this league would be shattering records in this offense surrounded by these skilled players.

There is no one available better than Tua- does Watson. Trevor, and others deserve what they got- Tua wants what the market says he is worth-

@eagledrummer23

28 күн бұрын

The market overpaid. None of those qb's are going to a superbowl

@pabloastudillo6903

28 күн бұрын

@@eagledrummer23 iI won’t say that- maybe not this yr

I will no pay him, and draft another QB,Tua is good but not his help

Pay Tua the bag 💰💰💰

He's going to set the market

without Tua,,, the dolphins become irrelevant as they have ever been as a football team..

@jarviseubanks4108

Ай бұрын

With tua we irrelevant. We got a track star team that makes tua look better than what he is. Tua is a qb who is limited in crucial areas.

Tua throws way to many int's and has way too many fumbles to be worth more than 25 a year. He had 27 int's and fumbles last year. He is the sole reason we lost the East. 18 td passes in the first 8 games and only 11 td passes the last 9 games is why we lost the East. he needed 40 td passes last year not a crappy 29.

If you're not going to pay Tua because of the "economics" then you're saying the qb average salary will go down? Whoever this gm they're getting info from sounds like an idiot

@OldManInternet

Ай бұрын

I think the idea is nobody else would pay him 55+ mil a year, so they wouldn't have to pay league high money because the opposing offers would be lower

@dalecelestin7591

Ай бұрын

@@OldManInternet Tua has been in the MVP conversation for 2 years in a row, led the league in passing last season, 2 consecutive pro bowls. If you let him play out this season and he wins mvp that 55 million goes to over 60 and someone will pay that

@champ2233killad

Ай бұрын

​@@dalecelestin7591People don't get that for some odd reason. Dude has done nothing but improve every single year and they wanna scream "win a playoff game then maybe he'll be worth the contract" dude still hasn't hit his prime yet 😂😂😂 they so stuck on hating Tua that they speak stupidly

@OldManInternet

Ай бұрын

@@dalecelestin7591 I'm not saying the GM was right. I'm saying that's the argument. Teams will be reluctant to give 200 mil+ guaranteed money to a guy who is a concussion away from retirement, so his open market value will be disproportionately lower than his numbers suggest they should be.

@173jaSon371

Ай бұрын

@@dalecelestin7591 Lol pro bowls mean nothing and "in conversation of MVP" means even less. His league-lead in passing yards was because Tyreek sprints by everyone, not because of anything Tua did.

NFL insider who says the same thing in every segment. Job if you can get it.

No contract. Unhappy quarterback. Bye bye season.

That’s the worst attempt of a mustache I’ve ever seen. Should be fired for it.

This Guy Tom is talking And saying NOTHING Stop wasting our lives

Real easy for an UNNAMED GM….with absolutely zero skin in the game, to say not to pay him. These GM’s are in a game of competitive sports, why in the world would he wish another team success in any respect. Especially when he is UNNAMED!! How does someone become rich and famous as a professional tattle tale, always quoting unnamed sources.

@Bucser

Ай бұрын

I can bet you in tree fiddy that unnamed GM was stupid Mike Tannenbaum...

Tua Turndaballover 😅

@steventhomas524

Ай бұрын

Haven't heard that one, you're funny! (Eyeroll)

@scott7621

Ай бұрын

Tua is gonna have his season ended by the RG Liam Icantblock

Tua sucks. 5th year option. Let him walk no other team is going to sign him or trade for him.

@champ2233killad

Ай бұрын

If you think that you smoke meth sprinkled with fent 😂😂😂

@roguebossa

Ай бұрын

He'd get scooped up in 2 days boss

Tyreek with mahomes, tyreek is pretty good. Tua with tyreek. Tyreek is the greatest wr on the planet . Tua is averave in a good situation.. how the hell can someone with half a brain actually beileve this.. he is an elite qb and thats a fact

@scott7621

Ай бұрын

Get a grip. Kelce was the main target in KC. Tyreek is now only the main target in Miami, and Tua actually looks to him too much and forces the ball to him far too much when he's not open. Tua should have had a lot more INTs last year than he did.

As a Bills fan, I sure hope the Lolphins give Tua his bag!!! 🎉😂

@ddw3968

Ай бұрын

You should probably worry about your teaming winning something first

@REDSHlFT

Ай бұрын

@@ddw3968 I am, Tua ensures that the Bills continue to win the AFC East title every single year and humiliate the Lolphins. Your team and fans fans are trash, Tua is a perfect fit! 🎉

@ddw3968

Ай бұрын

@@REDSHlFT What a dumb take, words that don’t go together brains and bills fans.

@REDSHlFT

Ай бұрын

@@ddw3968 The Bills and Allen are your daddy! I understand that they humiliate you year after year and make you extremely insecure…it’s ok 😂

@ddw3968

Ай бұрын

@@REDSHlFT Nice try but it’s not that personal. Yes, the bills have owned the phins lately, just like the phins owned the bills in the 80’s