Yes we had space marines but what about second space marines

@mus_cetiner

12 күн бұрын

what about space marine elevenses?

@kevincrean4143

12 күн бұрын

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@TheGreatWolf44

12 күн бұрын

Amen brother

@adampratt6078

12 күн бұрын

And what about afternoon space marines?

@colinmorrison2446

12 күн бұрын

"I don't think he knows about Second Space Marines"

It was said many times but GW really should start releasing different imperial guard regiments as kill team boxes, All people really need is that basic infantry kit, and from there we can kitbash heavy weapons teams, ordnance squads, tank commanders, etc. If they can put out 10 different SM lieutenants they can do one kit for a couple of major/popular regiments.

@overlordmarkus

12 күн бұрын

Nah, then us Killteam players will never get to play bc bighammer players buy all our kits.

@JankTank

12 күн бұрын

Or a basic infantry kit and upgrade sprues for the different regiments

@blob502

12 күн бұрын

or do what warlord games does and print to order for the old guard kits

@Remixersoloman

12 күн бұрын

Kill team has more than enough guardsmen and guardsmen equivalent teams already lol, no.

@neeeeeeeek9

12 күн бұрын

IF I SEE ANOTHER GUARD VARIANT IN KILL TEAM IM RIOTING 😭 just give us the bespoke nids, death guard, custodes and daemons please GW

Harlequin player here. It's rumored, and confirmed by the recent Lelith Hesperax book, that Cegorach himself sometimes disguises himself as a Great Harlequin and goes out into the world to crack heads and take lols. I don't what could be a better model than a literal god.

@azeria1

12 күн бұрын

Equivalent of a Primarchs model hopefully

@whoissyx

12 күн бұрын

Even if they didn't give a model of Cegorach himself...why not do a model in the likes of the avatar of Khaine and do an Avatar of Cegorach...either way would be awesome!!!

@Champofnowt

12 күн бұрын

So, this is a dream of many Harlequins players. A few people have kitbashed the Yncarne into Cegorach/Avatar of Cerogach model (mine is still a long term WIP 😂), and then "plays as" The Yncarne, because the rules kinda make sense. Some people are down on the idea, because Cerogach isn't a warrior, but it would only take a small amount of new lore to change that. For me, any excuse to put a sword-wielding laughing god on the table would be amazeballs.

@alecatnight1540

12 күн бұрын

Yea except cegorach does it disguised as a normal harlequin. Literally in the book

@boyanpenev9822

11 күн бұрын

Remember that story about the 5E Drukhari character that never got a model who played a game with what was probably Cegorach and won a crystalline heart she put in her chest? Maybe it will start cracking and turn her into something else. Drukhari and Harlequins could both use a few characters.

"I'm not here to withhold information" * proceeds to absolutely withhold information *

@ChapterMasterValrak

12 күн бұрын

Lmao I mean like there is a time and a place in the rumour verse

Also the biggest downfall of the Deathwatch is that GW never gave them an updated Kill Team kit. The firstborn one was the absolute best for being able to create your own guys.

-Imperial knights during the imperium section- "Are we a joke to you?"

@88atahualpa

12 күн бұрын

What they really need are the cerastus knights inside the codex, and maybe plastic acastus and questoris?

@godconvoy

11 күн бұрын

Listen, he can only remember so many things. He had to forget knights ( even though he has several) just so he can remember how to poop again.

Hopefully world eaters and thousand sons will get a big release instead of just one generic character

@taten-jinmu718

10 күн бұрын

Really hoping WE get a lot of models. Playing with half a range is rough 😂

@gavinziozios1431

6 күн бұрын

World Eaters will likely be getting a big release

GW should really put space marines on the shelf for a year or so when the range is fleshed out enough for the notable chapters. We need more attention on xenos models and lore.

An Agents of Chaos supplement would be great! You could include things like Cognitae agents, mercenaries, daemonhosts, rogue Inquisitors, and any number of other things from lore that don’t fit into a proper codex. It would also be a good place for things like the Beastmen to end up for now.

I just want space marines that taste like REAL space marines...

@chaosclg

12 күн бұрын

Yeah just so much bloat across the range and not much customization

@toadkillerdog4282

12 күн бұрын

They literally do at this point

@godconvoy

11 күн бұрын

A little acidic with notes of oak and MSG.

@keulron2290

7 күн бұрын

Why are you eating your models?

Do you remember the good old times when Valrak streamed live?

@dazrann2169

12 күн бұрын

I miss those days

@stuartperry3761

12 күн бұрын

This Valrak is a CGI generated fake. The voice is not CMV it's too posh. He hasn't cursed or ranted insanely.

@techytube7764

12 күн бұрын

its all prerecorded

@godconvoy

11 күн бұрын

It never happened. It was made up. A writer came up with this one. Complete fiction. It's an urban legend that never happened.

in the grimdark future there is only space marines

Model rumour video on a Wednesday, the son of Dorn has truely fallen to hersey! Welcome to the 4th legion!

I'm not a harlequin player myself but something I'm somewhat surprised they don't have is there own avatar model afterall they serve the laughing god and we know he's still alive so surely he can create avatars of his own like khaines and the yncarne it just makes sense to me personally

An upcoming Dawn of Fire novel "Hand of Abaddon", by Nick Kyme has a Votann on the cover, so maybe that's when they'll get introduced to the lore with other books following later? Although GW fell rather silent on the Dawn of Fire front though...

I reckon Inquisitor armies will have Brood Brothers like rules for including DW and Grey Knights rather than fully rolling them in

@DarkApostleNoek

12 күн бұрын

Sisters of Battle as well?

I think GW withholding some of release like Tyranids' KEQ unit, and some critters unit and Votann's vehicles because of "reasons" they can't share, be it didn't met the sales expectations or simply they don't have enough production time and/or resources. Yeah it sucks but its fully understandable

Catachan models refresh would be a thing I like to see happen. This is a faction that needs it soon. New camo patterns painted Catachans guardsmen in a future Codex showcase pages.

From the older Harlequins models that existed in the lore, Mimes and Master Mimes are notably missing from the newer range. Troupe Master doesn't have a dedicated model and is using a leader from a player squad. There are other stuff and back in 7th edition when Harlequins got their new range GW introduced brand new vehicles and all, so there is plenty of room for creativity to make new units for Harlequins. And special characters from lore like Sylandri Veilwalker doesn't have it's own model yet. Same qith Drukhari, there it's about time they get range refresh in next editions, we already received some new units and characters like new Mandrakes, Incubi, Drazhar, Lelith in 10th, 9th and 8th.

@Champofnowt

12 күн бұрын

They could also create some kind of Mech for harlequins too. Some kind of puppet inspired war machine powered by pure mischief from Cerogach himself. Sadly GW does not seem to give a rat's arse about harlequins, so I won't hold my breath for anything new.

@boyanpenev9822

11 күн бұрын

@@Champofnowt There was a fan list with a wraithlord-like construct called marionette or something like that. Something distinctly weird and disturbing for the Psycho Circus.

Catachans would be amazing. My old resin catachan painted baneblade needs friends! I got the baneblade back when you had to win a raffle to get the option to purchase one in store when it was first released.

If daemons are coming out of the Chaos Marine codex, then Word Bearers need a stand alone codex.

Honestly for Mechanicum, I am hoping that we get the ability to play them in 40k. Would make sense since at the moment Cohort Cybernetica only has one unit for the detachment, but that is a longshot since GW is not eager to give us 30k units.

@cthuludreams1

11 күн бұрын

Not gonna happen due to their stupid cross department competition. 30k Mechanicum kits being sold for 40k will eat into 40ks department sales

Thousand Sons are getting a Battle Automata

GW just legend a whole group of stormcast, feral orruks and whole chaos army with beastmen so I think anything is possible with the demons being merged with their god book.

Love ur content as always and handsome haircut mate emperor would approve!

lets go with the new eldar!!!! Cant wait for the new phoenix lords and new swooping hawks

Hoping we at least get a few things when the new Votann codex gets released. A character based on a novel, jump pack troops, and a tank or dread type of unit.

I would be very happy with the demons codex combined with their relevant faction, but emperors children need to be released first.

10:56 , Oh Good, the folding of Demons into their God Legions like in AOS, a vast improvement. I look forward to my Thousand Sons being able to use demons properly.

@ollieclark2808

8 күн бұрын

Except this would absolutely suck for Daemons players who have collected a mix over the years and don't play any flavour of CSM

I patiently await the refresh of my precious CATACHAN!

It would make sense to have a codex for each chaos god with different detachments for either CSM chapters or Daemons rather than making a single codex exclusively for daemons with barely any coherence in the army

It would make sense for them to separate out the demons into each faction codex, with the base Chaos Space Marines also doubling as Chaos Undivided. And at the end of the day if they are bringing out Emperor's Children then the number of codexs technically doesn't drop as they're just replacing Chaos Daemons with Emperor's Children. The only thing is they would technically have to start with the Emperor's Children, because if we see it in any of the other codexes we would know what's going on and it would spoil the reveal.

Still waiting for the World Eaters terminators

@justsomeguywhowantsamust-iw1yj

11 күн бұрын

Same brother. [Sad Red Butcher noises]

I get where Weshammer is coming from, I think both in lore and models Xenos could use a bit more love. So far I think the necrons and tyranids are doing alright, and the new Kroot is super cool. I think some new eldar models are needed, like some new harlequin or exodites would be sick. There are other species in the Tau empire, not just Kroot. I think the vespids could get new models, and I also think some of the other alien species could use some models. It would be so cool to use the tau like the covenant from Halo. A ton of alien species on the battlefield fighting the Imperium! Likewise when it comes to lore, the leagues of Votann have absolutely nothing. So I think some changes can be made. But I don’t think it hurts to recognize the Imperium and Space marines are the figure heads and main characters of the setting.

Harlequins you could so a Great Harlequin, above the troup master, you couls do harlequin wraithlords( they had them before armed with dCannons), you could do a mid range gun army, you couls do the gaurdians of the black library

Yeah, back in the 90's even though I wasn't interested in collecting Imperial Guard, seeing the tons of different factions in White Dwarf, I loved seeing the models and reading about them.

World Eaters better get more than 1 fucking new model.....

Valrak, love the Titus statue in the background :)

@ChapterMasterValrak

12 күн бұрын

It's amazing!

Throwing Daemons into the legion codex’s would make sense

I think the dark eldar do need a big named centerpiece model. I propose the Drukhari flesh crafters have got hold of something a while ago that they've been working on and they're ready to unleash it. They got hold of the remains of Conrad Kurze and they've enhanced him and awoken his body and instincts, if not his mind entirely. Personality wise, he's a much better fit for the dark eldar and a constant quest to get him more human skin to keep grafting onto his primarch organs would be so interesting and grim and fitting.

Can't wait for more space Marines! I haven't seen a space Marines release on 1 week😢

if you remember back in 8th they did the chrismas battleforces and gave imperial fists an upgrade sprue ahead of everyone else, IMHO thats what the nightlords are

The Harlequins had the Theatre Producer as the big model, but uh…he got MeTooed.

OMG you got the titus statue. Its so huge XD

Aeldari wave 2 would be much appreciated. By end of year perhaps? Updated Warp Spiders, killteam Hawks, Asurmen and even Dires would be fantastic. I think it’s likely they’ll get a new unit too as that’s usually the norm. Perhaps a warp spider Phoenix lord? No idea, but a boy can dream.

@TheArkHiver

11 күн бұрын

We need Fire Dragons too.

Any idea about world eaters wave 2? Or is that not even real

I would love some more Xenos armies, a franchise set in a futuristic universe could do with some variety. Eldar would be great to refresh some of the older models too.

What about my beloved Black Templars 😊

@chriscannon7065

12 күн бұрын

I was also wondering why Valrak of all people managed to forget mentioning Dorn’s most zealous sons! 😂

@timunderbakke8756

12 күн бұрын

We got our big refresh last edition. I don’t think we need another one. That said, I would love to see Templar specific terminators but that’s never been a thing before

@johnnieschatz693

12 күн бұрын

@@timunderbakke8756 3rd party like shapeways or pop goes the monkey

@chriscannon7065

12 күн бұрын

@@timunderbakke8756 We weren’t referring to a refresh for them, but the fact they are still due a supplement this edition. Model wise, would probably only expect them to probably gain a new non-named character model.

I want a blood angels refresh. We can't let Dante alone.

Votann are technically Xenos since they are not aligned with the imperium despite being abhuman need a speeder/flyer and dreadnaught analog, alongside the jumping hearthkin and scout kill team

I'm hoping we get some cool new models for my Imperial Guard and Votaan. Will it give me more to paint? Yes but ya know, sacrifices need to be made. Any word on new tanks for the Leagues or Guard? T

A Custodes Killteam would be cool at least. I think they’re still one of the only factions not to have gotten one for the game they’re a part of.

@jamesmatthews5903

12 күн бұрын

Admech too....

Any idea if/when we'll see a new roadmap for the releases?

Can't believe Valrak did two days of work

Catachans, Kriegs and ELYSIANS!!! LETS GOOO!!

I’m fine with the Daemons being mixed with their Chaos Legion as it makes sense. Personally I wish we could have Legion themed Havocs and Raptors for the aligned Legions

What game is in the background

@pandaking5132

12 күн бұрын

please someone answer this i want to play it

Votann are not imperium. And we have a book coming, we’re just waiting for it smh. But the kill team was really awesome so I’m happy

Harlequins= Laughing god model

I started up Drukhari late 9th. Several models were no longer in production. And in 10th the datasheets are there, but the models no longer exist. Gives me hope for a new Court of the Archon, Beast Master, Grotesques, etc.

The Daemons whispers seems about right it would make sense to put them in the Chaos god chapters of space marines because I dont think GW could think of enough detachment ideas for each of them so filling a spot with a daemon detachment doesnt surprise me. plus aligns with the new Daemon prince rules giving shadow of warp aura

Do we know for the krieg refresh, if artillery is going plastic. Cause iv been holding off buying the resin artillery cause its resin and the price lol.

Long live Rumorrak!! Love them whispers of the warp!😅😊

I’m really hoping thousand sons gets something more than a single hq, but I’m really sort of expecting it.

@horuslupercal2385

12 күн бұрын

Melee Rubrics, hopefully 🤞 Or some sort of Daemon-drawn chariot to act as a Fast-Attack option.

you fergot to mention imperial & chaos knights, i assume cos no mention means nothing, but of all factions you missed them. while no new custodiens in 40K, what about a HH refresh given they are allowed to be used in 40K (cos lets face it plastic versions of the dreadnoughts and the grav-tank will be a huge win)

Couple things I’d like to see for Drukhari Vect in a Silent King style model. Jagatai Khan turned into a massive pain engine. New way to return a primarch.

@Darktusken

12 күн бұрын

What they could do for vect would be to give him a bigger boat which could also double as a anothoer superheavy with the kit options

Demons collapsed into god specific csm would be great.

The Mordian Iron Guard shall return detached to the tenth legion. Where they are going isn't codex complaint. Resistance is futile, compliance is obligatory.

For Harlequins, you could do a model for Sylandri Veilwalker as their big unit. If you know the history of her then you'd know she's had some pretty god-tier abilities. Otherwise you could take inspiration from the Dawn of War mod for Harlequins and do a Spirit Walker (basically a Cegorach avatar).

AOS does split the chaos gods into individual factions, it's just they don't have chaos marine equivalents to tag along.

World eaters only got 5 kits on release, they will 100% get a second wave this edition. I'd bet my WE army on it

@drunkenastarte5243

12 күн бұрын

Considering what GW have done with the God dedicated Legions thus far, you're about to lose your WE army!lol We'll get a Berserker Surgeon if we're lucky 😛

@Angron_Of_Nuceria

12 күн бұрын

@@drunkenastarte5243 don't say that! Let me have this!

Hoping with the new mega factory GW have built that they're able to do more releases at once or within shorter intervals so more factions can have their spotlight.

They should just do 4 different regiments troop boxes that also come with a tank commander

I play 40k combat cards, and the next season called shield of baal starts tomorrow. The foil speaks

It's really ironic that DW hasn't gotten a Kill team box yet, since they literally run kill teams and that's where the phrase came from

I think daemons will be divided on god lines but not until 11th. Because if they do it now? Where does Be’lakor go? They’d either boot him to legends which is a shit idea, because he’s expensive af and still kinda new in GW terms. Plus they don’t like to dish out free rules mid edition.. Whereas, if they do it in eleventh, they can add Be’lakor into the chaos marine codex, because they’re relatively undivided too and then divide up the rest of the daemons on god lines.

@jigglywiggle

12 күн бұрын

They could just digitally add it to csm

@jcolls15

12 күн бұрын

i think the index will remain pplayable until 11th yeah. the could make belakor an agent of chaos or shove him in with csm.

Sweeet! Do a breakdown of the Weshammer video because the entire reason I am into WARHAMMER 40k is because of the SM ( Grey Knights & Blood Angels).

What I got out of this is, it* is coming. *literally everything

Nice fresh haircut Val (CoolRak). Gimme a new Nightbringer, let’s get waffling

pls make a whole analasys of the video, would love to see your opinion.

I'm hoping that Deathwatch and Grey knights get a range refresh or some new characters as part of this potential Agents of Imperium Ordo boxsets.

Hi, what game are you playing in the background ? I don’t recognize the UI / HUD.

Upgrade kits for all factions would be great! More options for the players

I think the issue with rolling demons into Chaos God books is Be'Lakor. In AoS he is in the Slaves to Darkness rules (Generic Chaos) so he should have been in CSM with a detachment dedicated to following him similar to Vashtorr. They could always do a digital update but that feels shitty. As a World Eater player I would love them to roll up all things Khorne as a Demonkin book.

Would love some Astra Mil regiment upgrade sprue. Some Valhallans? Some Tallarn? maybe Mordians?

He lives!

IG should really have gotten 1-2 universal bodies that can have upgrade sprues with different heads so that GW could have many different regiments without having hundreds of different kits.

If GW does come out with Krieg this will set a bar for future editions, and Im sure GW is well aware of that. Im betting on Katachan next edition as they are one of few remaining regiments still sold by GW. Funny youre hearing about a Trazyn model when that special editon Infinite and the Divine book has not been seen since the black library preview which has gotten me curious if theyll release both together. Also Im glad they could be getting rid of the Demons codex. There isnt a need for one anymore. Splitting all that up reduces the codex number, thats one less book, one less set of rules, less production, and bulks out the chaos factions a bit more. After all, GW's goal has been to slim down the IP and thats one way to do it. They did it with AoS so 40k is not immune. Its how feel about the Agents of the Imperium codex. It combines several things together to reduce production and valuable time, as I assume it will replace the Deathwatch codex

OK Val, you asked about Harlequins (7:44)...... At present, it's a very limited range (only a single Troupe Players box available as the only Battleline unit option). This isn't necessarily a bad thing BUT it sucks that they've been given the generic "Harlequins Weapons" on their datasheet which kills the flavour of the different weapon options (similar to Vanguard Veterans having their various weapon options narrowed into a single profile). However, I think this can be resolved with a few tweaks to the datasheet. As for new Harlies units, giving us Mimes would be amazing (make them fragile deep-strikers, could be similar to Drukhari Mandrakes, maybe?) Also, the main Harlequin HQ (the Troupe Master) is just an additional mini in the Troupe Players box. If that was given a stand-alone mini it would REALLY stand out as a unique Character. Similarly, having a Troupe Master on Bike would give an option to add to the Starweaver bikes that are already available. I think these are relatively small asks which could give Harlequins a nice extra bit of variation to their play (I guess you could class them as another Aspect Warrior-type option to give to the Aeldari). If you REALLY want to give them a super-heavy option..... An Avatar of Cegorach would be wild 🤯

Daemons being split up is gonna be good in the long run (really fixes the issue of the daemons being 4 different armies smooshed together) but i do hope they give us some way to play mixed god daemons still (also bel'lakor is kinda an issue still as well as he's kinda left in the dust at that point).

@GoodNegative

8 күн бұрын

They could probably just add Belakor into each of the Legion codices, as well as CSM's

Playtesting for EC is wrapping up. Should see them in about a year

Man if the Daemon rumour is true then RIP Disciples of Belakor.

Is that game play from Space marine 2 during the Space Marine part of the video?

My 8th Edition Codex for Thousand Sons had a good amount of Tzeentch Daemons, horrors, Screamer, Flamers, etc.. I personally think we should have Chaos God-Marines specific alliance within the Codex's. Because World Eaters get Khorne Blessing, but the Khorne Blessing does help out Khorne Daemon....?.... \_😐_/

I was beginning to think you finally got nabbed as The Canal Pusher, since you've been incognito... There's never too much Space Marines...

I would love some bladeguard équivalent for CSM juste some Big boy with shield m'y Hope a purely based on the multiplayer of space marine 2 but Hope is hope i Guess

Imperial Knights??? Chaos Knights??? Nothing??

@HouseSalix

12 күн бұрын

Heard stuff about IK, but is that gonna be for HH?

GW forgot about leagues of votann... they have had two kill teams since release.

Dark Eldar need Lady Malys as a model. She's just too damn cool in the lore to not have one. As for Vect, if I was GW I'd release a plastic update of the Tantalus as a model and make Vect's Dias of Destruction a Tantalus option as a sweetener in the box.

I have been playing deamons for a very long time, I would be very unhappy if I had to split up my army into 4 new ones....