My father built his video production empire on the Toaster 4K and the Toaster Flyer. He shot and edited video depositions for lawyers who wanted to show off in court, and that work bought our house back in the 90's. It all dried up when DVD replaced VHS and LaserDisc, but for a few brief years, the NewTek Video Toaster system was the best in the world. Good times! Great video, very informative- many thanks for helping keep the working knowledge, and thereby the magic of these great old things alive. Rock on!

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Performa. Thank you so much for sharing your story and thoughtful comment. I really appreciate it. Ironically the exact VHS camera I was using in this video was also used to shoot legal depositions back in the late 1990's! My buddy had a small video deposition business and he would borrow it to shoot them!

@performa9523

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheGuruMeditation Very nice! It looks like a Panasonic Reporter, at least from the nose- we had a couple of them and they were tanks! Battery hungry, but shot (for the time at least) great video. Rock on!

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

@@performa9523 you are right! it is a "VHS Reporter" AG-188

Nice, love it! Worked with Lightwave since 1.0. I used LW while working on Sea Quest(at Amblin) and later Voyager (at Foundation Imaging). The Toasters served me well in those years. I retired my own A4000 with Toaster/Flyer combo in late 1996.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Oh wow that is super cool! 2 classic shows. I think you are in my Discord channel?

I worked in tv production right when the toaster took over the control room....what a giant leap for tech

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

I will never forget when it was demoed at WAUG in December 1990. Our jaws were on the ground including my friend who worked at ABC

@retrogameroom9019

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheGuruMeditation i remember the vhs instruction tapes i still have. Half of us engineers had to goto a weekend crashcourse and life was never the same. If you want the vhs tapes theres bout 20 of them ill send em your way

@retrogameroom9019

4 жыл бұрын

I remember meeting penn and teller at the toaster launch event

@CantankerousDave

4 жыл бұрын

I volunteered at the local community cable TV studio (remember those?) in the eighties, so I was right at home with the control interface. Replacing a room full of "big iron" with a single machine was such a game changer.

@retrogameroom9019

4 жыл бұрын

@@CantankerousDave i started as a volunteer too...the after school cable club.....soon i had no life and became an av nerd....glad to see i wasnt alone

Fantastic!! That was so much fun to watch! I just spotted a dislike; must be an Atari ST fan ;)

@roartjrhom4932

4 жыл бұрын

Hahahah..must be! ;-)

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

I feel a little bad about my slanderous ST hate speech. I just made that up on the fly and was doing my Amiga duty, ha ha. The Falcon is a really cool machine.

@CTRIX64

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheGuruMeditation The Falcon didn't have the Video Toaster tho ;-)

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

@@CTRIX64 True that!

I owe my entire career/livelihood to the VT. I learned Lightwave 1.0 from the horrendous manual at a nasty home 'studio' in a bad part of Detroit. Took years to learn it back then because of the speed of the machine and the lack of reference, but from there moved in to CG and FX since. Thank you Newtek

Very interesting! Always only heard stories about the toaster. Never actually saw it in action.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Phero, glad you enjoyed!

Prior to this video, i didnt even know what a video toaster was, let alone what it looked like. Thanks so much for producing this and filling me in.

@MirekFe

2 жыл бұрын

This was NewTek's demo of the system, if you're wondering. (For version 2.0) It was epic! kzread.info/dash/bejne/mGeNyNJ8qJS9Z9I.html

Dope!!!! Looking forward for next episodes!!!

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! i look forward to making them

I'm from Rio de Janeiro. I had an Amiga 500 in 1992 and another Amiga T-4000 with Video Toaster in 1996. I created transitions and effects in real time. There was also a program called Scene Generator, which created scenarios. You could also create your own moves. Editing system far ahead of its time. TV broadcasters used the Amiga with the Video Toaster. I gave it all as a gift to an enthusiastic friend in Amiga about 7 years ago. I still have the AG-DS540 and 550 videos. The player (540) is working perfectly. The rec needs to change capacitors. But it's whole too.

@TheGuruMeditation

Жыл бұрын

Nice!

And the Video Toaster still gives me goosebumps! :-D :-D

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Me as well bud!

@roartjrhom4932

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheGuruMeditation I am abit envious...but in a VERY GOOD WAY. So happy for you my friend! ;-)

Wow. I wanted a Video Toaster for YEARS and now realize I had no idea what it really was. Still, it did so much! Amiga was so ahead of the game in so many ways...

Bill, Nothing on KZread gives me more pleasure than watching you having fun with an Amiga, Great!

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Aw, thank you Brad. This is the perfect way to end my day. Thanks for the super kind comment! I really appreciate it. Thank you

That was a fantastically fun vid, love the toaster!

Great stuff, Bill! The Toaster is such a wonderful product. I was thinking the other day about the transitions we use in modern editors - and the fact we have to render and wait for them. Then I think about what transitions the Toaster can do in a fraction of a second on tech that is 35 years old and I am amazed all over again.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Doug! That is an excellent point. It really is remarkable what the Toaster was capable of doing. Here in 2020 it is easy to loose perspective on how revolutionary and ahead of its time this technology was. Man, I wanted a Toaster so badly back then. Especially for the 24 bit graphics capabilities and Lightwave. What a killer piece of gear

@jimsteele9261

4 жыл бұрын

I remember there being 3rd party programs that let you convert a simple animation into a toaster transition. So you could make custom wipes.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

@@jimsteele9261 Yes you are correct. I actually have that software, but haven't learned how to use it yet. This would be a good thing to follow up with

Best News Flash...I’ve heard in a very long time.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Ahhhh ha ha ha!

So much fun - thanks for showing this. Finally a complete overview over what I thought was science fiction as a kid.

@TheGuruMeditation

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Jeroen, thanks so much for the kind words an glad you enjoyed the video!

This was such a joyfull watch, thanks!

At last a video about the iconic Video Toaster. thanks.

@TheGuruMeditation

Жыл бұрын

Cheers! Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the comment

So many memories, this is amazing, thanks

Wow, this brings back memories! I was 20 years old when we bought a Toaster for our family business. I was working on traditional video switchers with an old Kyron character generator. When we got the Toaster it completely changed our business and allowed us to be so much more creative. Now we're an Adobe house but we probably wouldn't be here today if it weren't for the VIdeo Toaster.

Super cool overview!

THAT was awesome! Never seen the Toaster in action. Thanks a lot!

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Captain! Glad you enjoyed bud!

I always wondered what a video toaster did. Looks fun to mess around with. Great video. Yes please do something in more depth. I remember the awesome pictures people produced in Lightwave.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jonathan! Will do!

I paid $5,000 with everything!!!,,,and it still works!!! AMIGA Forever!

@TheGuruMeditation

3 жыл бұрын

Nice!!!

@holoflat1662

3 жыл бұрын

What was everything? I have some A4000's, 1 with a video toaster and kitchen sych and a A3000 thinking of selling. Keeping my A1200 with a1230 40mhz.

@milliondollar2981

3 жыл бұрын

@@holoflat1662 , I got the one that the company was using that created video software games "doom" ect,,funny because the characters in the game were all created from there enployees!! haha

This was so cool! Great job Bill!

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike! It was so great sharing this special day with you going to Chris' house to get this awesome stuff.

More Video Toaster please !!! We need more fun with this hot stuff !!! Thanks

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

OK noted. Thanks R Type. I will do my best. Sadly time in my enemy, but I will try to do a couple of more

Brings back memories. Thank you for a wonderful video.

This was so joyful to watch, thanks!

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words Paul!

I am fascinated by early post production hardware. Awesome video!!

Congrats with the toaster !!!

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Sin-Lau!!! I am so excited

As always, your enthusiasm is catching, great job.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Clarence. I appreciate it. I love this stuff and want to share my passion

This was great! I never knew how any of this stuff worked, I appreciate you showing all of this. Sub'd.

I always wanted to have it but unfortunately a PAL version was never made, and at the time no one in Italy sold it in the shop. Thanks for showing it to me in action

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers, glad you enjoyed slashgg1!

Too bad NTSC only! Thanks for CLEAR exponation of Flyer and sofrware!

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I Understand not having a PAL version is frustrating. And thank for the feedback. I really did try to explain everything clearly and I appreciate the comment !

@ALurkingGrue

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheGuruMeditation There was a lot of hacks with the toaster itself to make it work as it was and a lot of weird timing shit. Interesting fact: the big custom chips were Xilinx FPGA's but they didn't get them mass produced with it's programming but left them blank. So when the toaster software booted up that hardware got programmed. When they said for 2.0 that it was a "Hardware upgrade on a disk" they meant it literally. The flyer was the same way. When the beta boards were shipped they barely functioned and after a few days they delivered working code to the beta testers over the early internet. One reason all the beta flyer boxes had an "Under Construction" motif. In fact when those shipped rubber bugs were put in the boxes as a joke but kinda a hint that this sucker is gonna be buggy as hell.

@RetroDawn

3 жыл бұрын

@@ALurkingGrue Thanks, man! I didn't realize that the Toaster software actually programmed FPGAs. I always assumed the Toaster contained ASICs. That's very cool! That should make it easier to reverse engineer custom chips (although still a huge task). Hopefully someone will undertake that task someday, and then we could enhance the Video Toaster hardware and even create new Video Toaster hardware with modern FPGAs, and also incorporate it into the Vampire. Also, this means that the X1000 had even more of a connection to the Amiga history with its inclusion of the onboard "Xena" XMOS FPGA (which additionally was connected directly to the CPU bus and the new Xorro slot).

Excellent Video Bill much less waffling than me, I hope to do my A3000/Toaster video soon with my A2000 Macro System video editing setup :-)

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Stephen! I love your Toaster video and look forward to seeing more. I never worked with an A2000 Macro system. That will be great to see!

Always loved the Toaster, enjoy it Bill , and do more videos with that amazing piece of hardware.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Max! Thank you. OK I plan on doing a couple of more videos about it. Hopefully I will be able to make the time

I love the enthusiasm! Let's see the rendered animation.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Travis! Yeah I never finished the render because I was trying to finish the video. I should have and I will post it! Thanks for the motivation to do that

Wow this video ruled. Randomly stumbled on it. Good work, dude! If I had one of these as a kid... holy crap...

@TheGuruMeditation

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Phantom! This made my day. Glad you enjoyed! It was my dream as a kid too. I finally got this one this year. Never too late!

Great video. Just shared with my colleagues at NewTek!

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Oh that is awesome! I have always wanted to come pay you guys a visit. I met some of the NewTek folks at Able Cine in NY where you have a TriCaster setup and did a demo of it. Here is my regular website billwinters.net

The book "The history of Motion graphics" brought me to your channel. Love the detailed demo. Some serious effort went into setting this up. Great Video!!!

Always well made and very entertaining. You and 8-bit guy....i can't get enough. Please, please do MORE!

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Aw thanks Pregnant. I really appreciate the kind words. Yeah I wish I had time to make more videos too. The streams have been treating me well because I don't have to edit, but I promise I will continue to make KZread videos here

Wow - this is so so so on point Bill! Thanks for making this video :-) I love that Newtek are still making waves.... NDI, Tricaster, etc

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Chris, thank you so much. I am so glad you enjoyed it. I loved your tracker video as well. Keep up the great work!

Great vid! Nice to see what the Toaster is like- ofcourse the Amiga is what got me into video art and editing... we used an A4000 back in High School but before that it was vhs editing in class. Much love for NLE tho... so stoked with today’s tech tho... wish Amiga was still involved... I believe the future is ARM.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Love your work bud! Congrats on your awesome entry at Revision! Oh man The Flyer blew away Adobe Premiere back then, but eventually Premiere prevailed and that is what I am on now

@thelostunderground

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support! You can bet on some *real* Amiga and C64 (among a few other platforms!) demo releases...

Great video, I've always wondered what the Video Toaster was! Great explanation, thank you

awsome video! it's been 30 years since I've seen one in action! takes me back to the 90s in community college...was in awe then and still am today of thier power-price point compared to pro broadcast broadcast equipment, quantel ,chyron paintbox, ,SGI,etc.

Finally I see how it works. Those days it was absolutely stunning.

Those Amiga days where the best days ! I remember Newtek Video Toaster coming out, very clearly. I had nearly all the models of Amiga A500, A1500, A1200, A4000/040. Yep in that order. Loved that computer. Great video, always happy see anything with regards to the Amiga.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Yeah Amiga brings back so many great memories for me as well. I still feel magic when I sit down at mine.

@Petsublak

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheGuruMeditation I think of the Amiga, as the computer with a soul. An amazing computer, for those days.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

@@Petsublak Totally agree. It absolutely has a soul

I was introduced to an A1000 in '87 and got my first A500 in '88. At the time it rocked my world. These days I have about 15 A500s, a CDTV32 and a few HDDs sitting in the cupboard out in the garage but since the advent of WinUAE and all of its excellent emulation abilities, I haven't needed to fire up a REAL Amiga in years. I look at those lumpy old graphics now and think 'How the hell did they ever pull off things like SeaQuest and Bab5 on THAT?' Ahhh... the good ol' days. Thanks for the Toaster demo!

@Preview43

2 жыл бұрын

@Neb6 Not bad. I wonder how long it took. Most of the best renders I ever did were set & forget until cooked types. Sleep = time-travel for renders.

awesome :d ... and so much fun to see you have fun :D ... i just repaired an a1k, got a genlock and scanner et all... such fun.

@TheGuruMeditation

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Have fun!

Beautiful thing, huge possibilities for those days! :)

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed!

We had a Video Toaster at our little public access tv station back in the mid-90s. We were putting out graphics that rivaled the local broadcast company. I think there's a market today for something similar to use in podcasts and other live streaming events.

Bill, I loved this video for several reasons. It sounded very much like a documentary style video than the couple of amiga friends discussing the good old days. I got started with the A500, went to the A2000 then A3000 before being blessed with a Toaster 4000 in college that I had to myself. I used Lightwave and edited college videos. I never got into video as I was warned away from it. But I never lost my appreciation for the Amiga. My five year old wanted to watch airplanes today. I connected my FS UAE mac to the TV through air play and brought up FA/18 Interceptor, then I saw your video juts an hour ago. I started my own channel about five months ago. For man of those earlier videos, I wore an Amiga sweater. I don't wear it so much now as my wife forced me to wear better cloths for the videos... ;) Always appreciate your videos. The only complaint I have to your channel is that there are not enough videos. All the best my friend from across the lake!

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words. I really appreciate it. Makes me feel great and thanks for sharing your story. I agree with your complaint. I wish I had time to make more videos, but I do live stream on Twitch once per week if you are interested. No editing, yay! ;-) www.twitch.tv/amigabill

Thank you for the great video!

Hahaha... totally loved this video. You definitely need to do more videos like this. I had a 3000 tower with my toaster

Hoping you keep this channel rolling forever. I loved my Amiga 500 system. And I still believe that, even with its flaws, it was the best computer ever made. We just need a modern version of that hardware, the operating system, and the software you could buy for it. And not just some crappy substitute, which is (at best) what we have today. The Amiga experience generated an amazing vibe that has never been matched.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

The 500 really is the classic Amiga. And I have no intention of stopping the channel. Slow and steady wins the test of time, ha ha

Great vid. I can’t believe you never had a toaster before. Look forward to more in-depth vids. Maybe one on how the hardware actually worked?

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

That would be a great one. I would have to bring in someone to help though because I am not an engineer. But I would love to do that

Thanks. Great work

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jose! Cheers. Hope you are well

Bill, I'm a Steadicam operator based in NYC, and I love vintage computing, as well! Had no idea you were a DP here!

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

No way! That's awesome. I have worked with Alec Jarnagin, Parris Mayhew, Maceo Bishop, George Bianchi, Dave Ellis, Scott Sans, and many great folks here. I would love to hook up. send me a note to my work email billATbillwintersDOTnet

More Video Toaster videos!!!!!!!! Great Video Bill!!!!!

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Roger that. Thanks Brother Bill!

I miss the Amiga! Great video

A love Amgia Bill! You are awesome dude!

@TheGuruMeditation

Жыл бұрын

Aw, thanks Rarefaction! I really appreciate that 🙏🏼💙

I love the music in the back ^^

@TheGuruMeditation

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! There are so many talented musicians who compose with Amiga

Great video !! Very entertaining. Funny stuff there with the Amiga LOVE and the Atari SUCKS bit !! Love the demo also.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Ha ha, thanks. I am silly sometimes. I actually don't hare Atari, just doing my Amiga duty ;-)

Nice to see a Toaster again. I still have one buried in the pile around here somewhere. :) One thing to mention, the camera sources if using more than one, must be genlockable for the switcher to work. Same with VCRs. Most consumer or prosumer VCRs needed a Time Base Corrector to work with the toaster. Fortunately, the demand for cheap TBCs drover the market to produce them. They plugged into the PC style expansion slots, but just got power from them. They were controlled by the Amiga over the serial bus. Fun Times. :)

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

It is a great point Jim. I almost went into this in the video, but decided it needed to be it's own video if I make it in the future. Here I was using a Digital Processing Systems TBC IV to sync my 2 cameras. The VHS "webcam" camera and the Canon XL-1 I had as camera #2. They wouldn't work without the TBC.

@jimsteele9261

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheGuruMeditation Yeah, I thought some of those issues might be covered in more depth later. There are a lot of possibilities for future vids. I was more interested in Lightwave than the rest of the Toaster. I remember using rend24 to take 24bit lightwave renders and converting them to HAM animations. These could look pretty good in Ham-8 on an AGA machine.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

@@jimsteele9261 I am very excited for more lightwave. The only issue is that I don't know it inside and out so it makes it more difficult to make a video. But I have friends who are pros with it, so I might have one of them on as a guest.

i remember seeing an A1200 at the Indiana Jones stunt show at Disney back in the day. I had the toaster demo vhs tape and watched it over and over lol

@TheGuruMeditation

Жыл бұрын

Oh wow, that's awesome! Ha ha!

@recursiveidentity

Жыл бұрын

@@TheGuruMeditation Yeah i even went up to the tech and asked him about it - they were just using it for lighting somehow if I remember. This would have been 1996

@TheGuruMeditation

Жыл бұрын

@@recursiveidentity Wow that's cool!

Awesome video Bill......... Video Toaster was an amazing board in the 90s and NewTek killed the video solution. I guess it was hard to put all the stuff that you can do with Toaster in just 16 mins video but you did a great job here. Congrats !!!. Lightwaveeeeeeeee is the next one :) Lets do it.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

It was so difficult to cut it down to 16min. I wanted it even shorter, but this was the best I could do. Thanks for the rad 3D logo :-) You are the best!

@roartjrhom4932

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheGuruMeditation I think we could even handle 20min pr episode! ;-) :-P

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

@@roartjrhom4932 Fair play my man :-)

Great ! Thank you

I did special even video back when this was THE HOT THING used them for close to 12 years OMG I so loved the WHOLE system.

@TheGuruMeditation

3 жыл бұрын

It was mind blowing and so far ahead of its time!

Broadcast ready!

When I was a little kid I wanted this so bad...

@TheGuruMeditation

3 жыл бұрын

Me too! I finally got this one this year

Thank you so much ! Quite unbelievable to see a VT demo in 2020 ! Cannot but wonder how many of actual HW & SW will still work ok in 20+ years ! The ST fans are now two, according to the dislike... Lamers ;-) !

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

That was a spontaneous thought. I actually feel bad about my slanderous Atari ST hate speech, ha ha! Just doing my duty ans an Amiga guy ;-) Yes, you are correct. The fact that so much of this stuff still works is remarkable. Get those VARTAs out!

I have a friend that I worked with in the early 90's by Pete Benson from Philadelphia, Pa. He was a video geek and Newtek user. He introduced me to video and the flyer back then. Always wanted to get into it but was more involved with Pc's and early NLE's at the time. Haven't been able to locate the guy since.

This looks pretty cool actually. I might try one if I have the chance.

I was in video production starting in the eighties through the analog to digital transition, so I love this stuff (I had a Toaster 2000). The funny thing about the Toaster Flyer is that although it was an NLE, it didn't use a timeline interface for editing. It still used the A/B, preview/program metaphor of the "big iron" days. Your system's hard drives were even set up that way - drives 1 and 2 were your A and B sources, and drive C was your audio. You would set up a sort of storyboard sequence, with each element called a "Crouton" (because Toaster, get it?). That basic timeline you showed was an add-on developed and sold by a third party. You can follow the development of the interface in the issues of Video Toaster User they have on archive.org. And for the kids out there: when you rendered CGI in that era, you didn't simply create a video file and email it to your client. You'd have a honking big video deck hooked up to your computer via serial cable. Every time an interlaced frame finished rendering, the deck would wake up, move the tape to the timecode of the new frame, rewind a bit, go into record mode and record that single frame, and then go back to sleep until the next frame was ready. It took freaking forever, and was murder on the innards of the recorder. They were built like tanks, and cost as much.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Oh wow, thanks for the insight. I used the Flyer once way back when and I barely remember how it worked. I can't wait to get this one set up. That Octopus cable gives me anxiety though, ha ha! I never rendered CGI to tape before, only to my Amiga's HD. That is wild. I also got a PAR board in this haul and I want to make a video about too - as soon as I learn how to use it!

@RetroDawn

3 жыл бұрын

So true! Back in early 1994 I had a rack Onyx RE2 (size of a large refrigerator) for my workstation, and even though the animations that we modeled and animated 100% in C code ran in real-time on that machine, to get production recordings that the film director could use, I recorded the animations in real-time to an Abekas Rec. 601 digital video recorder and then, using Betacam SP VTR control software I also wrote in C on the SGI, each frame was written from the Abekas to Betacam SP tape which I then mailed to the director. Sure, it was a lot faster than having to wait for each frame to render on an Amiga, but method for getting onto tape was 100% the same (along with the need to deliver animations via tape as the lingua franca to begin with).

So many memories... :)

5:34 Where is that mustache? If I ever get one of these, I will say goodbye to after fx for good... Excellent vid babe.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Ha ha, oh man, you are right. I should have put on the stache! Thanks for the kind words and support as always bud.

Absolutely stunning Bill!! Video Toaster is still impressive today! Why Commodore didn't bring the Toaster to PAL countries is still a mistery to me..

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Stefano! It would have been great if it was PAL also. However they did choose the Amiga to host The Toaster specifically because it's internal timing worked with the NTSC video signal. So, I am not sure if it was possible to have a PAL version. But I guess anything is possible if you want it bad enough.

@stefanobriccolani3407

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheGuruMeditation yes, maybe Newtek considered a PAL version not so profitable or difficult to build. But Commodore should have financed it anyway. Hope you are healthy Bill! Stay at home with your AMIGAS.. here in Italy we're experiencing a real nightmare..

@jameswebb5080

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheGuruMeditation I read that they had started work on a PAL Toaster, but it was a major redesign and by this time Commodore was starting to get into financial trouble and they decided to invest elsewhere.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

@@jameswebb5080 Ah, that makes sense. It is too bad, but I don't blame NewTek for that

Can't wait to get my A4000 back from repairs! It's got a Video Toaster 4000. Now I just need some good NTSC cameras, some VTRs, and a timebase corrector.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Sweet! enjoy!

Bill you're giving me all kinds of FEELS seeing you working in LW. However I also appreciate the STACKS of floppies off to your right. Yes folks. Want to install the Toaster on your Amiga? It's a million floppies. Best hope they all work! ;)

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Ha ha nice Kevin! Yeah, one bad floppy would be a total disaster, LOL! Thankfully the Toaster software eventually came on a CD-ROM. Although it doesn't look as cool as that stack of floppies!

Amazing how much things have advanced since then, especially when it comes to 3D modeling capability. Nowadays, those animation frames would render in realtime with full effects even on the crappiest video card. Still, I totally WANTED to get one of these back in the day but just couldn't afford it. :( Good times!

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Lightwave was my dream back then. And great point about the advancement in technology. I need to pick up some modern 3D programs. I would like to use them for pre-visualization for some of my jobs.

@JustWasted3HoursHere

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheGuruMeditation Blender3D is very powerful and is also free, but some people say it's got a steep learning curve. To be honest, they all do in one way or another, but there are hundreds of tutorials on KZread on how to use it. Here's a quick example of what you can do with it: - Big Buck Bunny: kzread.info/dash/bejne/i3lruNylfNfWXZc.html - Agent 327: kzread.info/dash/bejne/q3yd0bmFlMrUfaw.html And this shows its compositing abilities with live action: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hGqBzrecnbLbnJs.html Blender includes things such as fluid dynamics (water, oil, smoke, fire, etc very realistically) and compositing, motion capture, camera and object tracking etc. Everything you need to make your own movie. Check it out!

Awesome video showcasing the Toaster! I was wondering where I could find a place to listen to or buy that end credits song, maybe I'm searching for the wrong thing but I can't find it anywhere

Always wanted a toaster, but 1) It was expensive for a home user and 2) NTSC only. I remember that it was a converter card from NTSC to PAL, as well as 3'rd party cards to controll VCR's so you could edit video with it (non-digital). I remember that there was a magazine for it called Video Toaster User, i used to visit an international magazine chain that sold it and was amazed with all the stuff you could do with it, especially the Flyer that was ahead of it's time, but in the later 90s Adobe Premiere came out an suddenly i could edit digital video on my PC. Newtech really pushed the Amigas capabilities.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

NewTek sure did push the boundaries. I feel your frustration. Ironically I was here in NY where I could have had it, but it was out of my reach. I made due with a RocGen, DPaint, Imagine, and SCALA though. They were great as well

@CantankerousDave

4 жыл бұрын

Archive.org has scans of every issue of Video Toaster User. Pay attention to the prices of RAM and hard drives in the ads. It's a hoot.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

@@CantankerousDave Oh, thanks for the head's up. I was looking for some issues for this video, but couldn't find them. Thanks for the head's up!

gee whiz, i had taken a Video Toaster class at Washburn University at Topeka, Ks. using donated Spielberg Amiga computers 🥳great stuff & too pricey for me 🤑 thanks a lot ☕🥧

aMAZING

@TheGuruMeditation

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I am still dreaming! :-( Anyway awesome video as always! ;-)

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Ha ha, maybe one day. It took me 30 years of dreaming!

@roartjrhom4932

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheGuruMeditation Hahaha...yes, I think I will dream for ever if I want a PAL toaster! LOL

Nice lookin

When you consider the size of the global television market, how much bespoke digital systems like Quantel cost (see Retro Man Cave's video on Quantel Paintbox to get some idea of how expensive those systems were) and that out of all the countries in the world, only three used NTSC (everywhere else was PAL, except France and Russia, which were SECAM), it is amazing to me that Commodore didn't pay Newtek to deliver a PAL version of the Video Toaster. I realise the US TV market is huge by itself, but my god - they would have had that market sewn up. If Commodore had any sense (as we know, it didn't) they would have bought Newtek, and fully integrated the Video Toaster into the Amiga's design, making that the focus of their production. They would have revolutionised video production and the costs therein - years before things like Premiere and iMovie. NewTek are still around. Amiga barely is. Commodore is a memory. I know we in Amiga fandom like to speculate about how our beloved Amiga could have ascended to the top with competent leadership and management, but that really does seem no-brainer. The two companies were so dependant on each other that it would have made sense to combine.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

That is very insightful and I totally agree. Wow, that would have been a smart play on Commodore's part. Man that would have been fantastic. Let's face it, the Amiga's strength was its multi-media capabilities and they should have pushed that forward. I will check out RMC's video. Thanks!

Thanks Bill, you look like a kid in the candy store with that toaster!

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Ha ha cheers David. I really am. I am so happy here with the Toaster

I always thought the Toaster was a video editor. Good to know I was wrong.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it was a switcher. But eventually they did come out with The Flyer which worked together with the Toaster and that was a NLE

I was dreaming the same back in the late 80s, early 90s.

That Video Toaster gives you the capabilities of the QUANTEL PAINTBOX without the price and without having to purchase licence keys to enable certain features.

I was friends with the guy that made some very good aircraft models (I think there was a 707 included with Lightwave that he did) for Lightwave. He didn't like the modeling software, so he would draw out every polygon on large format graph paper, and then HAND KEY every single vertex. I remember him telling me that he did renders to slide format (as in, film slides) so they were ridiculous resolution for those days-- like 3000x3000 and he used those for presentations. For some of his animations, a single frame could take 6-12 hours, and he was feeding them, one at a time, to a single-frame-capable Super VHS VCR. He had a ridiculous setup.

I've always wanted to try out a Video Toaster and re-create those early CG idents and animations like you'd see on TV in the 90's. I'm guessing it's easier to do it with today's 3D software like Autodesk and Blender, or there's a digital version of Video Toaster out there.

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

You can get a standalone version of Lightwave 3D 5 for the Amiga. And later versions are available on the PC

Nostalgia!!!

@TheGuruMeditation

Жыл бұрын

Yeah!!!

It's cool!

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, the Toaster rocks!

I actually edited video with Amilink long before the Flyer came out - and before that we used regular edit controllers.

@TheGuruMeditation

3 жыл бұрын

NICE! Oh wow Amilink. I vaguely remember that and never used it.

@MichaelJantzen42

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheGuruMeditation Yeah it was basically an Amiga based EDL - it was quite fun to hit the go button (q!) and watch the vcr's spin back and forth and the video toaster do all the transitions and titles programmatically.

awsome video bill, I watched the stream as well! By the way, what TBC are you using in your set up when you switch cameras? My VIDEO TOASTER 4000 came with a Kitchen Sync Board but mine is missing its video input dongle so I can't feed any video into it :( I'm looking to get something to complete my setup.

@TheGuruMeditation

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Benjamin! Bummer about your Kitchen Sync. That is a nice board. I am running a DPS Personal TBC. It is a nice one and does the job

@tanuki2k

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheGuruMeditation interesting, does the DPS card time base correct all 4 inputs on the toaster or do you need more then one card per in put? Sorry just trying to get my head around all this before I commit to more eBay spends 🤔😅

I always wondered if I was the only one who still wished to have a video toaster.

@TheGuruMeditation

3 жыл бұрын

Ha ha, nope. Lots of us dreamed of Toasters

@RetroDawn

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheGuruMeditation Yes, but how many still actually want to have one? ;) I finally made my dream come true in 2018. Now I just have to get off my ass and finally enact my idea...

Hi , would like to know how you connect the video cam to the Toaster. What cam do I have to buy and which cables to connect to the toaster BNC connectors? Great 👍 video I love it!

@TheGuruMeditation

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I need to do a whole video on this subject. You nee an NTSC video camera with composite out. Later versions of the Toaster has S-Video. If you use more than 1 camera you need a TBC as well

To think that now we have real time Ray tracing and rendering at 4K resolution. We've come so far in 30 years.