S2000 still continues to prove that it’s been the real deal for over 20yrs, good stuff Honda!

@19hundoc47

Жыл бұрын

Because it beat the cheapest and lowest powered sports coupe available today?

@P4NC4K35

Жыл бұрын

​@@19hundoc47 Because it beat a similarly priced vehicle with a larger engine (2.0L vs. 2.4L) marketed towards the same customer base that came out 24 years later, and you can't even blame emissions regs. How does your 24 year old computer compare to today? How about a 24 year old f-150 compared to today? Because the ap1 s2000 went on sale in 1999; that's why it's impressive.

@19hundoc47

Жыл бұрын

@@P4NC4K35 lol not even close dude. The s2k was 33k new back in 99? That’s 60k in todays dollars. So now compare the s2k to a 3.0 Supra and there’s your fair dollar to dollar fight. 33k today for an 86 was 20k back in 1999. So explain to me again how the s2k beating an 86 is impressive lol

@med3694

Жыл бұрын

@@19hundoc47 S2k is around 20 euro where i live sometimes 15 k lol

@Jaidenem1

11 ай бұрын

@@19hundoc47s2000 here are around 35-40k Cad. New GT86s are 45-50k Cad… go find me a 33k gt86 in todays market please. There’s something called msrp and the actual mark up cost.

Extremely impressed how the S2000 still holds up today.

@sdlausen1

Жыл бұрын

Well, the s2000 was in the Boxter, BMW Z3 category of sports cars when released in 2000, not entry level like a Miata for example. The GR86 is the entry level sports car of today that finally caught up to the mid segment sports cars from 20 years ago.

@30hours51

Жыл бұрын

yea no fucking shit it was competing with the porsche boxsters,

@TheBb6prelude

Жыл бұрын

​​@@30hours51 Porsche boxster shouldn't be held as a reference. Even the 200 HP front wheel drive Integra beats the boxster around a track. It was a terrible car.

@gigi9467

Жыл бұрын

Keep in mind the s2k was a 60-65k car in todays equivalence..

@JacesOwnWorld

Жыл бұрын

It's racing the second slowest sports car in today's market. It's not that impressive...

This was probably the best drag race I've seen in two decades... WoW... what a finish...

@Carscoza

Жыл бұрын

We're so glad to hear this. Thanks for watching

@manworksgarage

Жыл бұрын

Look up gr86 vs mk4 supra

@arachniawebz6176

Жыл бұрын

Facts!

@Dontdoitguy

Ай бұрын

lol

S2000 is such a gem of a car. The F20C is an engineering masterpiece too. Great races, especially the last one.

I rode in a S2000 a decade and a half ago once and was hooked from the start. Still an incredible machine regardless of age. I love it and still want one eventually. Amazing video Ciro and Ash!!

GR86 with 4 seats and trunk is a winner to me. More useable/practical. Lived with various mr2s over the years. Having a sportscar that can do more than just weekend fun is great.

@P4NC4K35

Жыл бұрын

I packed a bunch of luggage and went on a 4000+ mile road trip in my s2000. Just don't pack a hard shell suitcase for the airport and you'll be able to do 90% of the daily stuff you could with a civic.

@nycyabber7103

11 ай бұрын

Honestly, the two don't even compare to me. The GR86 is somewhat practical but the driving experience of the S2k completely outshines the GR86 in every way IMO.

@alexc7864

5 ай бұрын

​@@nycyabber7103outshines is a stretch. Gr86 is honestly a future classic. If nostalgia isn't a factor, I don't really see why you'd pick an s2k over a brand new gr86.

@nycyabber7103

5 ай бұрын

@@alexc7864 Idk I was shopping for a new GR86 and ended up with a S2k. Wasn't even shopping for an S2k but once I drove it compared to all the GR86s I test drove, I wanted nothing else. It was that much better to me.

20 years old and the Honda still more than holds its own! I love my S2000!

This is one of the most amazing drag races I've seen!! And it is between two simple 200HP cars!! Not some supercars!

F20C, greatest NA 2.0 L engine of all time. Period.

we need more showdowns like this old school vs new school

As a S2000 owner, I smiled when I saw that launch, that's how you properly launch a S2000! Keep the RPM up at all cost to keep that power coming!

@adamnay7730

5 ай бұрын

Yep, had to launch my AP1's at like 8500rpms to make sure you landed above 6k rpms for vtec. Otherwise you bog or land out of vtec= 1st race.

At least Toyota is still making sports cars we can buy today.

@CrimsonOrguss

Жыл бұрын

Also the fact that we have it in SA.

@rainmaster2936

Жыл бұрын

100 percent. People complain Abt brz and GR but we are lucky to have Toyota make these amazing handling cars at affordable price..

@chevyss934

Жыл бұрын

Toyota isnt doing anything but rebadging cars lets be clear lmao toyota has lost its MOJO

@CrimsonOrguss

Жыл бұрын

@@chevyss934 oh ok , well I really enjoy the GR86 and thoroughly glad I got a new one. I’m glad that Toyota partnered with Suburu with engineering the car they designed.

@chevyss934

Жыл бұрын

@@CrimsonOrguss toyota didn't do ntn but slapped a badge on the car and changed cosmetics on the outside lol

One of the best Japanese race , S2000 still keeping up with new school after 20 years is wonderful

@nicolasrosa37

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say that the twins are new school

@Rob165x

Жыл бұрын

@@nicolasrosa37 I would say that, the new 2.4 is over a second faster to 60mph and does 215hp/170lb. to the wheels, gen1 can't compete without force induction. The numbers they gave (6.4s is too high, it's more like 5.8s in a drag, on the manual anyways)

that s2k is gorgeous

@omairsh8

Жыл бұрын

And has a beautiful sounding in-line 4 engine!

My dad has a red S2000 exactly like that one. He bought it new in 2009, one of the last to be imported before production ended. I have driven it lots over the years and it still puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. You don’t get cars like the S2000 anymore which is sad because it is such a simple machine - great chassis and handling, NA engine, short shift gearbox, relatively low weight. It is a driver’s car and it wants to be driven. It is an irreplaceable car in my opinion.

@rhett7716

Жыл бұрын

you dont get cars like that anymore ?? how about the car it was racing or mazda mx5 ??

@thestranger1164

Жыл бұрын

@@rhett7716 nothing wrong with an mx5 but nothing beats an ol reliable coupe from honda. Especially the 2.4 it had at the time.

@P4NC4K35

Жыл бұрын

the 09 will fetch a high price if your dad decides to sell it. Problem is, any replacement is a downgrade!

@nine-nine

2 ай бұрын

04-05 is the best years, it was before they switched to electronic throttle

I have driven too many cars in my life , but it is the S2000 deserve my admiration

The S2000 reminds me why I'm a Honda fan 🏁🏁🏁

@tonycruise

Жыл бұрын

and the gr86 reminds me why i always pick toyota over honda =)

@notsure3535

Жыл бұрын

Honda makes the best 4 bangers combined with the best gear boxes.

@tonycruise

Жыл бұрын

@@notsure3535 they make fast engines but not as reliable as Toyota

@notsure3535

Жыл бұрын

@Tony Cruise Skate Ministry this is not true. I do believe the current line up of toyotas are better. But honda has a nice line up of 4 cylinders that are very potent and reliable. Toyota are just as good as far as reliability but Hondas are faster.

That was so good to watch, 2 great cars & 2 great guys having fun

This was so much fun to watch!

That was exciting!!! Good driving guys!

20 years older and 20% down on displacement, still wins. Mega.

@alstound

Жыл бұрын

It was down to the driver, but how it held up after roughly two decades is remarkable.

@30hours51

Жыл бұрын

bc it was built to compete with porsches, the gr86 is made to compete with the mx5.......

@tracewaybos

Жыл бұрын

@@30hours51 Wrong... The S2000 was built to celebrate Honda's 50th anniversary, not to compete with porsche... Honda started the design and prototyping in 1995 almost 2 years before the boxster came out. They wanted a modern version of their S800 roadster from the 60's.

@TheBb6prelude

Жыл бұрын

​@@tracewaybos I seen the prototype. It looks pretty badass.

@tonycruise

Жыл бұрын

and it also is way less practical and doesnt have back seats

THAT 3RD RACE YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH WAS AWESOME!!!!! THANKS FOR THE VIDEO

Oww yesss bring back them Drag races!!!!😁

Love races like this! It does not need to be super fast but it is fun.

Driver skill is huge for the performance of a S2000. S2000 Driver did extremely well for his first time behind the wheel.

@Norrr3

9 ай бұрын

Facts! I agree

@adamnay7730

5 ай бұрын

Right! He went gentle the first time and then realized he had to launch it high in the rev band.

Drag races. This is what I live for 😍❤️

Really-really awesome drag race, was really amazed with the Honda S2000 VTEC !

Seriously, best race I've seen on KZread 👏👏👏

@Carscoza

Жыл бұрын

This is so great to hear, thank you!

S2000 is a beast! 20 years and still a mechanical marvel.

Man loved those races.

One of the best I have seen. Really engages the viewer!

@Carscoza

Жыл бұрын

This is great to hear, thanks for watching :)

That s2000 is so beautiful 😍, really impressive 👏🏾

Great races

Honda - The power of dreams!

Great video! I freaking stood up from my chair at the last race cuz it was so close!

@Carscoza

Жыл бұрын

This is so great to hear! Thanks for watching

Great drag race 🏁 thanks

Ash is great at launching manual cars, always impressed how he is able to do it even with FWD cars.

@zinny999

Жыл бұрын

He learned from the first launch to let the first gear rung out much later in the revs. Giving the 2nd gear a good run. Otherwise it would have boughs down.

@brianwkunklecih7724

Жыл бұрын

@nboy7, not sure if you know, neither of these 2 cars is fwd.

@cartere9981

Жыл бұрын

@@brianwkunklecih7724 he didn’t say they were😂

Closest drag race by far ! Awesome 👌

I'm really happy to see the S2000 punching hard but for pete's sake, this video is going to keep the second hand values high 😂 Some of us are trying to live out our 90's fantasies here!

@tasleempathan9301

Жыл бұрын

Min 400k for one with low km like this one.

@donaldmokgale3123

Жыл бұрын

LMFAO!

@kushlord1989

Жыл бұрын

Glad I got my ap1 even tho it's broken right now hahaha

@Rob165x

Жыл бұрын

@@kushlord1989 I think the GR will take an AP1, but damn for a car 20 years old with less torque and 0.4L less that is impressive. With a turbo I would bet the Honda has the advantage.

@kushlord1989

Жыл бұрын

@R Camacho yea . Not with me driving tho lol

I owned an S2000 for 12 glorious years. I also owned a BRZ for 1 year. Thanks for this awesome side-by-side. I'm impressed how the newer gen GR 86 kept up as well as it did. The older gen I owned definitely felt slow compared to my S2000. I was rooting for the Honda to win, and I'm glad it eked out victory, however close.

S2000 such a special car. Needs a super charger to take it to 250kw. Then she screams and flies!

EPIC 3 races dudes!

This was awesome💯🔥

3:43 What a spectacular drone shot!

S2000 is at a whole different level: comes with a true double wishbone suspension, a bespoke engine, one of the best gear boxes in the world at any price and exceptional build quality. 0-60 or 1/4 times was never a priority for the s2000, but it’s interesting to see how it measures up against the 86.

@masrali4696

Жыл бұрын

The gearboxes were only good for a few quick changes before they started grinding and crunching.

@patchouli9

Жыл бұрын

The S2k was always meant to be a special car. The twins were meant for ordinary folks who wanted a cheap daily.

@darkknight097

Жыл бұрын

​@Masr ali my 05 AP2 still shifts like butter. Maybe you should learn to change gears better

@binskee677

Жыл бұрын

@@darkknight097 mine too, works perfectly still! After 20 years, i changed the urea grease (that Honda fat stuff) and the plastic stuff just as a precaution.

@yawnyle

Жыл бұрын

@@masrali4696 My 00 S2000 has never grinded gears. My NSX on the other hand will grind second when cold.

Bought an S2000 almost, gosh, 20 years ago now and this video brought back so many good memories.

Great race guys. Please show the times at the end of a drag race. Thanks.. Keep these type of races coming.

The honda driver never let's us down...well done ash

That was great, good action!

Hats off to you Mr. Ash, very well driven!

What an amazing drag race. These are both phenomenal cars. Good entertainment guys 👏

@Carscoza

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, we're so glad you enjoyed it

@Carscoza

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Thanks for watching

I put 120k miles on an AP1 and sold it for more than I bought it 12 years ago. Such a fun car. I just bought a GR86 that should be delivered in a few days, I just hope it's as fun as the S2k was.

@boujeful

2 ай бұрын

hope you’re enjoying it!! just got mine it’s a blast!

Well done Ash! funny to see you pop up on my feed. Lol. Hope you're doing well!

Look at the how low the belt line in s2k is compared to gr86. They are both one of better if not best designed front engine/rear wheel drive cars of their time but my god the s2000 has that classic old school British roadster proportion, long dash to axle short front over hang, low belt line classic E type. Due to high belt line GR86 looks more modern but proportional it looks flaw against the s2000

More drags like this please

Great news either way. The legend is worthy of the title, and we can still buy that performance today.

Now take em on a track or autocross course! I sat in an S2000 for Autocross and I thought I remember people saying it didn't have that much power (or maybe torque) but it impressed me, seemed pretty powerful and handled awesomely.

Both great cars! What I'm impressed more is that drone keeping up with them. 🧐

By the end I didnt care who won. I thought it was a perfect race. The S2000 is THAT car. It was way ahead of it's time and still competes well against modern cars with similar power and weight. The GR is no joke either. That 2.4 boxer has given it the power it has always needed with less of the toque dip (it's still there but not as big) and increase of toque to now make it go. Excellent video

Guys this was absolutely and truly amazing... I loved every second of it... That S2000 is a great machine.

@Carscoza

Жыл бұрын

We're so glad to hear this, thank you for watching

The most impressive thing is the Honda resale value.

Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec exhaust system.

@marlondavids5087

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@van_der_lindeDA

Жыл бұрын

Getting old now

@Bbc418

Жыл бұрын

Get a life

@sharkparty1027

Жыл бұрын

Before race: This fool is running a Honda 2000. I'll win. Then me and my dad can roll together when he gets out of prison. It's all good. After race: NO! S#!T! OH, GOD!

@andydhillon1977

Жыл бұрын

A couple of SR20s will pull a premium right before Race Wars!

That rainbow like RPM gauge is amazing !!! I still remember my 1st ride in my buddy's S2K DAMN it was so bad ass, 9000 RPM Redline is unheard of these days in a stock production vehicle & RWD 4 banger as well

AWESOME AWESOME RACE ! WOW 👍✨✨✨✨✨!!!

wow very impressive clean run.

that was AWESOME!!!! Very impressed by the S2K!

I was rooting for the S 2000 all the way...

As an S2000 owner, I am soo proud to see how it keeps up with modern machinery. The S2000 is a legend and a classic. Over 20 years from launch over a 10 year production run and a birthday present to Honda itself, the S2000 can’t be beaten for a sports car. It’s amazing.

Beautyful to see the S2000 its an fantastic car. Wow the hole Video was so cool👍🏻trank you guys!

@Carscoza

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

S2000. One of the best sounding engines ever. Needs a k+n induction kit though.

Good video....get them on the track next.

This is the best drag race I have ever seen! Well done to the Honda!

I have an AP2 2005 S2000 and I absolutely love it. I think I’ll grab a second probably an AP1 down the road to build.

These 2 are fairly evenly matched together regardless of the age difference in all a great video that s2000 Honda is in good shape too for its age 👍👍

Very impressive race....love that S2k....

Great content Wish you guys did a rolling race though 😅😅

What a Great Race! I enjoyed this thoroughly! If only Toyota continued developing it's iconic engines like the 4A-GE which used to rev to 8000rpm back in the day, they would have produced something truly special by now...

@tiagofigueiredo2529

Жыл бұрын

Toyota's iconic 4AGE engine is a copy of the British Cosworth BDA engine that had been around for quite some time back then and there's all kinds of modifications possible made to them by now.

Gorgeous looking S2000.. Wow. 🙌

A really good race! S2000 still got it! I driven one years ago! It handles well, sounds good and luv the VTEC!

This gave me goosebumps 🥴. Ciro, if you think this GR86 is fun, I can't wait for you guys to test out the new GR Supra Manual when that launches. That is my dream. I know I've been telling you guys this for quite a few times but please do a video review of it when the car launches and comes for test. It will honestly make my heart happy. Absolutely enjoyed this video and Hannes's S2000 is a monster 👻 👽

@binskee677

Жыл бұрын

sad to tell you that you will be dissapointed by the manual GR Surpa, it's a fat Grand Tourer and not a fun sportscar like the 86.

Awesome race there gents Really love the 3rd race Honda s2000 is still the number 1 fastest NA 2.0 motor on the market Well done gents

Epic battle. Never selling my S, but respect to all the Toyobaru operators out there.

@tonycruise

Жыл бұрын

s2000s are great cars but for a 4 seater that cost less than the 2 seater and still do what it does is amazing

@InTheZone85

Жыл бұрын

@@tonycruise one car is 20 years newer. That is light years in terms of car technology

@tonycruise

Жыл бұрын

@@InTheZone85 not when it comes to power. The s2000 engine and the bmw m3 engine are few engines to make more than 100 hp per cylinder. Brz makes 230 hp out of 2.4 cyl which is not bad and I get 25 mpg, while having a back seats and a full touch screen and luxuries that the s2000 doesn’t include

@binskee677

Жыл бұрын

@@tonycruise true, i have a s2000 and it would never go as the only car or even a daily, you also need a GR Yaris besides it for winter and shopping

my word was this interesting!!! the 86 sounds kinda good at full beans actually S2000 better for sure.

What a match!

Wow Very interesting

I have an older 86 and I love it... I really like the new GR86 too... but I would still choose an s2k over both... that car is a gem

Great launch from both guys! Well done! Amazing drag race

this was a great drag race , wouldn't mine seeing an 2005 C200 Merc vs Bmw 320i

Great thanks 😊

Love them both

Good race! closer than I expected. I figured the 86 would walk it from a dig.

@alanbarrese456

Жыл бұрын

Same here, that was my initial prediction, but the ol s2k has still got it! It's such a charming car.

That was such a excellent match! For the past 20 years I've loved and dreamed of owning a s2000 and never had another car even come close to my Infatuation of it. Until recently actually got to close to one of these gr86. I'm still on the edge of it but both really good cars. What a race tho.

@Carscoza

Жыл бұрын

We're so glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching and commenting

What a race, great stuff. Glad to see the old girl still has it. Time to rethink selling mine 🤔

The GR86 is a really good car. Toyota and Subaru have done good with the improvements to this new engine.

Awesome race!!! @carwow take notes!

Next do a lap ;) Love the 86… had the old one and it’s an Incredible - totally underrated - car.

South African's dont want to hear this but Honda is actually more reliable than Toyota.... New Toyotas will never be like the old Toyotas... Never the less... That Honda can hold its breath a bit longer and that gives it its advantage in this race...

Epic!

I'm speechless 🌶️🌶️🌶️

That v- tec sound is crisp 👌