This kind of conversations makes me love Let the Quran Speak even more! Thank you guys for putting out there such quality informative content.

@rigeurmortis1

2 жыл бұрын

Is it good that these called outdated laws have been outlawed? Are modern day secular laws that gives equal rights to everyone better? Pls contemplate

@nololpog6682

2 жыл бұрын

Watch Sheik Omar Suleiman's videos on this topic. It will clear all your doubts

@willow5884

Жыл бұрын

y I'm

@Slaw6602

8 ай бұрын

It makes you make love ❤️

@Slaw6602

8 ай бұрын

So adultery in Islam is Ok So Shabir got wife mother of thus lovely doughter plus congress concubines

This very delicate matter many sheikh going around this topic without answering it

@abdullahiabubakar9986

2 жыл бұрын

It is indeed a delicate one.

@unaa9380

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think they know how to answer it

@nololpog6682

2 жыл бұрын

Watch Sheik Omar Suleiman's videos on this topic. It will clear all your doubts

As a descendent from slaves. It really bothers me that slavery and concubinage are old accepted practices of Islam. Every time I think about slavery and concubinage it really grieves me. Both are horrible practices. There are so many more good things and truth in Islam I still accept Islam.

@dsmvfl363

2 жыл бұрын

not to make excuses for the practice of slavery, but a detail that goes overlooked is that slavery under Islam and slavery under the Europeans was very different. In Islam, racializing slavery was never practiced, once someone was free, they were treated as free, no strings attached, while in European slavery, being a slave was not a label you could shed, even if you were free. Not to say that Muslims were never racist, but Islamic doctrine has a lot of things that prevented a lot of the evils in slavery that European slavery did not.

@philipcoriolis6614

2 жыл бұрын

@@dsmvfl363 What about castration ?

@Subxanallah1110

2 жыл бұрын

@@philipcoriolis6614 In Christianity, right? What about 22 million innocent Africans who were captured, enslaved, murdered, dumbed in the sea, and fed them to sharks?

@philipcoriolis6614

2 жыл бұрын

@@Subxanallah1110 Eunuchs were guarding harems...

@philipcoriolis6614

2 жыл бұрын

@@Subxanallah1110 Captured by whom ? The First Passage was the forced march of African captives from their inland homes to African ports, where they were imprisoned in barracoons until they could be sold and loaded onto an European (or Arab) buying ship.

Patiently waiting for the series

Any religion regardless of how big in number its followers are, should never 👎 be allowed to legimize slavery or abuse of women & referring to women as property 😡😡😡! No way to any slavery religion or ideology 😬😬😬

@mansibagri3314

8 ай бұрын

When you use the term “slavery” remember there is a difference between Arab slavery and European. They didn’t face any form of torment or toture in Islamic slavery. These “slaves” were prisoners of war who were well taken care of under the Islamic regime. They lived, ate and wore the same clothes as their owners

@afia9641

3 ай бұрын

@@mansibagri3314 but why were is considered ok to use those slave (prisoner of war women) for sexual pleasure of their masters/captors?

@mansibagri3314

3 ай бұрын

@@afia9641 this sheikh isn’t competent enough and some of the things he says is not Islamically correct. You should do your own research because there’s a whole lot of reasons and sometimes it’s not what it looks like

@afia9641

3 ай бұрын

@@mansibagri3314 men have always had exploited women , but the most clever ones came up with religion to "JUSTIFY" the exploitation/injustice towards women on the name of God (who no one can go and confirm with if he/she even sent any message to any self claimed prophets)

@afia9641

3 ай бұрын

@@mansibagri3314 no reason can justify sexual exploitation of women. This is all man made stuff. Religions (all of them) have been used since their inception to justify exploitation of women (sexual, financial, physical, emotional) and control them on the name of God.

Thank you for bringing this topic up because it will be very illuminating. I have wondered the same, very interested in the series

Eagerly waiting for nxt parts

There is a verse in the Quran that includes the statement of “what your right hand possess”. Referring to slaves

If you give the slaves the same clothes and food that you eat, then why are do they need to be free? why not just adopt them instead of enslave them? How can you be sexually attracted to the widow of the man you just killed? What if she isn’t attracted to you? Why isn’t consent important?

@bodhisattva6308

2 жыл бұрын

well your questions come out of reasoning and logical conclutions.Which is what Religion cannot use because they have conclusions in place, they need to reverse engineer the logic....;)

@bodhisattva6308

2 жыл бұрын

@@53fczunb so assuming the method is for eternity, you think its ok to have slaves today.

@bodhisattva6308

2 жыл бұрын

@@53fczunb ok but what happens to the idea that prophets are worthy of emulation ? Can you elaborate your idea

@bodhisattva6308

2 жыл бұрын

@@53fczunb ok Point taken

@nololpog6682

2 жыл бұрын

@nadinechamasWatch Sheik Omar Suleiman's videos on this topic. It will clear all your doubts. consent is 100 percent needed.

His explanation still didn't answer my question: why is having sex with a concubine not counted as zina?

@funyticktockfoods

2 жыл бұрын

Because Allah says so

@RAMESHKOTIKALAPUDI

2 жыл бұрын

@@funyticktockfoods This is the exact answer that came to my mind. Jokes aside, that's exactly what it is.

@nololpog6682

2 жыл бұрын

Watch Sheik Omar Suleiman's videos on this topic. It will clear all your doubts

@marcolucius5083

Ай бұрын

@@RAMESHKOTIKALAPUDIum you know that is apologetically and intellectually impossible. This is by definition fornication and adultery and mortal sin

Fantastic series!

Prophet Muhammad SAW ❤️

I love you both so much! Thank you for all that you both do

No matter what the explanation I hear regarding this.. Thr are always some doubts left in my mind regarding this topic... So I've left thinking about this topic...

@mohamedmo8128

2 жыл бұрын

The fact is that slavery was a punishment that was imposed on prisoners of war back then. It was both used as a threat to discourage other empires from waging war against you and as compensation for the soldiers who risked their lives on the battlefield. Islam however gave slaves rights and considered them as humans. So much so that children born to concubines often became Caliphs and a concubine who bears her master a child is called "um walad" meaning mother of child. Such a concubine can no longer be sold and would be considered a free woman if her master passes away.

@mohamedmo8128

2 жыл бұрын

I think you should also realise that the enslavement and emancipation of prisoners of war is something that is up to the ruler. The ruler decides what to do with prisoners of war, he has the right to set them free if he believes that it's in the people's best interest. The fact of the matter is that slavery still exist in the world but under a different name. Guantanamo bay is practically a concentration camp where people are put in cages without trial.

@mohamedmo8128

2 жыл бұрын

@@NRFP If Islam is is the truth then it's the truth regardless of how prisoners of war are commanded to be treated. Also there is no consent as it's a consequence of war. There is no consent in war.

@funyticktockfoods

2 жыл бұрын

@@mohamedmo8128 so what exactly are saying?Are you saying that the prophet and sahaba raped POW? Are you even a Muslim?

@nololpog6682

2 жыл бұрын

Watch Sheik Omar Suleiman's videos on this topic. It will clear all your doubts

Love the Seriessssssssssssssssssssssssss...

Looking forward for next episodes of this series...

Interesting topic and looking forward to the rest of the series

Imposing values from the top down on a population rarely works if ever. Studies show that if you genuinely care about effective change then the approach you take is to find examples of the behavior you want within the population and then nurture it and model it for the rest and gradually phase out the bad behavior. This is explored in depth in the book Switch by Dan Heath.

Awesome response

Today in Nigeria, Boko Haram, a terrorist group, claim to rely on the Quranic verse and the hadiths to abduct and forcefully, marry young girls. We need to speak more on this topic. Thank you sheik.

@mohamedmo8128

2 жыл бұрын

Boko Haram are khawarij. Only the ruler had the authority to enslave prisoners of war, not random militias.

@asoingbob5322

2 жыл бұрын

@@NRFP how is he unjust?

@asoingbob5322

2 жыл бұрын

@@NRFP u sound like a fake Muslim and you like your own comments lmao

@Revolt_west

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of people claim a lot of things. That doesn't mean they are correct👍🏼

@Revolt_west

2 жыл бұрын

@@NRFP Which Hadith though lol? Sahih Bukharhi has many. And if you are Bengali you should know Mansur from speakers corner, yes?

If the quran says concubine was okay, but we dont accept the practice today, does that mean that God was wrong to write that practice into his book(quran) ?

@a.k.7341

Жыл бұрын

A truly good God and leader would NEVER condone the sexual harm of women at any time, at any place, by any person, and in ANY circumstances. It is NEVER appropriate to inflict sexual harm on another living being. If women were NOT humiliated, then its a different story

@pinkzero281

2 ай бұрын

not really, islam is fine with social norms, concubinage slavery and some other things, islam makes it humane, alot of the people think that the prophet didnt ask her consent which is ridiculous in itself to think that the prophet himself wouldnot follow the God's commandments, many prophets had concubines, society has given a bad meaning to the word "Concubine" people think of the word and intertwined it with prostitute which is not

This issue no scholar spoke about this matter,, in my opinion we need to dig more in quran to reveal the truth. Much love for u all ❤️

I'm glad you don't give bs answers. Thank you for being transparent

He skirted around the question, but did not answer it at all. Can a man be a truly holy man if he practices sin on a daily basis? His answer, well for that time... But if he is holy and he has direct contact with god, you would think "that time" would make no difference, right? Also, he mentions if the female slave and master are "attracted" to each other. Lol! Like the female slave being attracted to her master makes a difference. I'm sure it happened now and again, but the power dynamic wouldn't have made a difference. Yes, slavery took place in most historical societies; however, when then you add god into it, that your religion sanctions it, then that takes away the evolution of getting away from it. For example, slavery in Arabia got abolished in the second half of the 20th century. Some as late as the 1980's. Also, if a religion is the true word of god, then how does context of "practice at that time" make a difference? The religion can say we know slavery exists in society, but this is against god and our religion, period! Otherwise, morality is relative and not a fixed concept. And certainly if it is relative, then it doesn't come from a god, since you would think it would be a fixed morality and not relative to the time. This isn't a criticism to Islam only. This is a problem with all the religions I know off. You try to skirt around the issue, explain inconsistencies away, but are truly not able to with true logic. That's why religion is based on faith. Logic and evidence are not needed, and in fact discouraged.

Thanks!

I commend Dr Shabir Ally for his bravery and not fearing the blame of critics when speaking about the topic of concubinage, without watering the topic down and sugar coating it like so many out there.

Great video! Love watching let the Quran speak!

@saifdevdas7656

2 жыл бұрын

JESUS!

"Marry the single people from among you and the righteous slaves and slave-girls. If you are poor, Allah (SwT) will make you rich through His favour; and Allah (SwT) is Bountiful, All-Knowing." (24:32).

@NRFP

2 жыл бұрын

4:24 milk al yamin(right hand process)

@unaa9380

2 жыл бұрын

@@NRFP the old suras were updated by newer ones as revelation continued

The hadiths are full of nonsense, it's like Muslims care more about what so and so narrated from so and so than the Quran, I've never seen any of these in the Quran (stoning and concubines)

@Jre.studio07

4 ай бұрын

Hadith are Allah world to prophet muhammed

Amazing topic and a fantastic way of taking small segments from different parts of the past and then explaining it slowly. I think it's very important this is talked about and more people get knowledge on it beause there is alot of misconceptions and negative stories about the prophet Mohammed pbuh out there that makes him look like a unholy character and that is far from the truth. He was the kindest man to live and had love for humanity at large. Dr shabir you are a gem and may god bless you for taking so freely about complex topics with pride and confidence. You are doing a great job to clear misconception about islam, the prophet and the quran so other religions can take a interest and understand the right interpretation about the prophet pbuh. Ty

@mansurhallaj8568

2 жыл бұрын

What misconception he cleared? He was lieing, hiding the truth. Prophet used to have slaves, it is found in quran and hadiths. Study yourself. Do you think any Hujur like sabir ali will reveal the truth? Never, it is distrubing.

@ERASE-pc7uv

2 жыл бұрын

@@mansurhallaj8568 what was he hiding? Only slave prophet had was Mariya who was gifted to him by a Christian king. The prophet married her which automatically freed her.

@mansurhallaj8568

2 жыл бұрын

@@ERASE-pc7uv Prophet never married maria, this is total lie. Read and study even Quran says prophet Had slaves. Why prophet didn’t free slave Belal? Killing whole family of Shafiq, prophet......her in the same night. Now a days not possible to hide the truth

@ERASE-pc7uv

2 жыл бұрын

@@mansurhallaj8568 where in Quran say prophet had slaves quote which verses says it. Where does it say that Bilal was not free?

@mansurhallaj8568

2 жыл бұрын

@@ERASE-pc7uv you are muslims by listening only. Like majority of muslims you didn’t read quran

I don't understand the logic that sleeping with a unwilling unmarried slave (basically rape) is Halal but masturbation is considered Haram by many scholars.

@unaa9380

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not halal

@ovaiszohan3766

2 жыл бұрын

Mastrubation isn't haram!...

@abdulbasit-cn9ek

2 жыл бұрын

There is no evidence of enslaving people against their will in islam. I am inclined to believe that prisoners had a slim chance of going back to their lands and lead normal lives post-war so they would put up with slavery and concubinage to avoid the worse alternative of homelesness and dying of starvation.

@almondlorden

2 жыл бұрын

"But let them who find not [the means for] marriage abstain [from sexual relations] until Allah enriches them from His bounty. And those who seek a contract [for eventual emancipation] from among whom your right hands possess - then make a contract with them if you know there is within them goodness and give them from the wealth of Allah which He has given you. And do not compel your slave girls to prostitution, if they desire chastity, to seek [thereby] the temporary interests of worldly life. And if someone should compel them, then indeed, Allah is [to them], after their compulsion, Forgiving and Merciful." Quran 24:33

@behtereen4187

2 жыл бұрын

MashaAllah Self-deception is a great virtue. Keep it up. 👍

This should be interesting, I hope Dr Shabir Ally addresses the Bukhari hadith around coitus interruptus, it's very troubling and doesn't go in line with this video at all. Mohammads advice was immoral to the warriors during the battle.

concubinage is basically legal temporary marrige damn i was so confused about that topic

@Someone-vr7me

9 ай бұрын

It has nothing to do with marriage , a concubine does not give consent to be taken as a slave , she is captured against he will whether she likes it or not

@sirahmad

9 ай бұрын

islam give rights to slaves otherwise slaves get killed go and read history of concubines it was preislamic practice @@Someone-vr7me

@pinkzero281

2 ай бұрын

@@Someone-vr7me so?

THIS!!!! My brothers and sisters is going to be very very very fun Inch’Allah pfiouuuu 😮‍💨

@a.k.7341

Жыл бұрын

A truly good God and leader would NEVER condone the sexual harm of women at any time, at any place, by any person, and in ANY circumstances. It is NEVER appropriate to inflict sexual harm on another living being

Decency says that sexual slavery and concubinage is utterly morally wrong in any culture.

@childaisha5098

Жыл бұрын

Decency for islamists.................. what a joke.............Muhamud married Aisha 9 yrs when he was 54 yrs

@SamirSiraj8542

Жыл бұрын

What is wrong? What is right? What is decency? Who decided it?

@charleskristiansson1296

Жыл бұрын

@@SamirSiraj8542 Male and female have the same sexual rights.

@SamirSiraj8542

Жыл бұрын

@@charleskristiansson1296 who decided that? By what category is that decided? Can you prove what you said is objectively right?

@dame6584

7 ай бұрын

​@@SamirSiraj8542just use your brain and heart. How could it be right? Do you even care about other human?

Defending the indefensible.

@ovaiszohan3766

2 жыл бұрын

He's not defending it... He's just explaining it..

@nololpog6682

2 жыл бұрын

Watch Sheik Omar Suleiman's videos on this topic. It will clear all your doubts

@SamirSiraj8542

Жыл бұрын

Why? ?

@sirahmad

10 ай бұрын

get some education

Nur Surah 58 verse . Nûr / 58 "O ye who believe! Let those whom your right hands possess, and the (children) among you who have not come of age ask your permission (before they come to your presence), on three occasions: before morning prayer; the while ye doff your clothes for the noonday heat; and after the latenight prayer: these are your three times of undress: outside those times it is not wrong for you or for them to move about attending to each other: Thus does Allah make clear the Signs to you: for Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom. " Concubinage is forbidden in Islam. This verse clearly explains that women slaves are not allowed to see their master inappropriate way. If Allah let them to going into sexual relationship why in this verse Allah warn them to carefull about their privacy. Concubinage is not in any Quran verses. It is only in nerratives. And no one can say that they are %100 percent right. And slvaery ended with the decease of Prophet Mohammed.

@childaisha5098

Жыл бұрын

I have given references in quran authorizing s1avery by profit muhamud 1. Mohammud was a w0manizer and he exchanged his w1ves and s3x s1aves with his friends qu-ran chap 33 verse 52 and 53, taking s3x s1aves is sanctioned in qu-ran 8:67 an chap 23: verses 1 ,5,6. 2. Muhammud lu5ted his daughter in law zainab and forced his adopted son to divorce her immediately using 3 talaq and married her through order of his Phimp Wallah qu-ran chap 33:37. 3. If Mohd’s friends saw his two newly added favorite wives, Zainab and his latest v1rgin wife Aisha ( 9 yrs) in his house will ask for exchange ,bcoz Mohd. used to do it quran chap 33 verse 52 , so jealous Mohd. discovered the hijab verse and asked his wives to cover up when his friends come home, If they are not covered Mohd’s friends will disturb his wives............... A man is known by his friends ??

Standards at which we judge actions changes with time. I honestly don't believe that the Prophet had mistresses. Remember all Messengers had enemies. Hagar was Abrahams wife but the Children of Israel and Christians still do not recognise her marriage to Abraham, they still can her names and so on. Perhaps the prophet Muhammad had wives which were disliked by the Ummah hence were called names. I honestly do not believe that the messenger of ALLAH had extra marital affairs. I don't care whether these narrations come from Al Bukhari or whoever. Anyone who speaks evil of the Messengers of ALLAH I will not recognise

@cissejr7695

2 жыл бұрын

I mean nobody talked about mistresses in this show, to begin with.

@blacktwitterforlaughs4743

2 жыл бұрын

@@cissejr7695 lol concubines are mistresses🙄

@cissejr7695

2 жыл бұрын

@@blacktwitterforlaughs4743 that's what I was hoping you are not going to say. That's the stupidity of committing the fallacy of presentism as if the world is all about our era!

@NRFP

2 жыл бұрын

@@blacktwitterforlaughs4743 Concubine is not haram in our islam bro. it called milk al yamin(right hand process) in quran. its halal

@cissejr7695

2 жыл бұрын

@@NRFP exactly, then don't call it mistress because that word have a bad connotation

I am not a Muslim and I don't even want to look at this issue as a critic. I would rather look at it from a practical point of view. All the revered characters of the religious history of Islam, they came to this earth as human beings. And as we all know, human behaviour is not perfect and even the greatest human beings made mistakes or went wrong. God did not create them as perfect entities and added to that, some of the things that they did were outcomes of the prevalent circumstances of their times. Those persons are not remembered for these. They are remembered for the greater goals that they managed to achieve during their lives. Can things be judged from that angle? Every human being has his/her share of mistakes but what did that person achieve beyond those supposed mistakes? Their work, their messages, their achievements as a whole------let us see which side outweighs the other. This is just a humble opinion coming out of my very limited understanding.

I have heard many Islamic scholars dwelling on this topic but alas with no clear cut result. Just circumlocutions. Let's ses how Dr. Shabbir deals the topic in his next show

Assalamu alaikum! I think muslims should be told how to be using the Islamic context historically regarding issues of this nature rather than using other people's practices and culture as a yardstick to measure the appropriateness ke otherwise of an Islamic practice.

@a.k.7341

Жыл бұрын

A truly good God and leader would NEVER condone the sexual harm of women at any time, at any place, by any person, and in ANY circumstances. It is NEVER appropriate to inflict sexual harm on another living being

A well broken down explanation for what some would say in our modern society, with its contemporary values, be seen as a questionable practice. Good work.

@imurpapa8120

Жыл бұрын

some???

We need to explore the meaning of frooj with context in mind

‘Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which Allah has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them)’ Surah Noor, verse 33

Very nice Islamic vedio. I am from Indian

It is allowed to have slaves in Islam

Your face says "Interesting, why didn't I think about it before!"😃

So, it's not 'eternal.' Smart way to do away with unpleasant stuff. Then why not stop circumcising and not eating pork?

Remember that unless there are hadith or other authentic sources whether they be historical or other this man is making stuff up, he should provide references.

In christianity, Men are encouraged to love their wives like Jesus loved the church. Lets not forget that in Christian Theology , Christ sacrificed his life for his church. As man, we should be able to sacrificie our own life for our wife. A women has divine potential. When god created the first man, he said it is not good for a man to be alone so he created the woman. A man and a woman becomes one.

@pinkzero281

2 ай бұрын

whats your point

👍🏼👍🏼

I will never be able to accept Islam

I don’t think its fair to talk about this issue only in light of Islam or Quran . This should be an inclusive discussion of bible and Quran . As there are many example of concubine in the bible both as slave and captive of war

@Spencer0225

2 жыл бұрын

Muslims should focus on their own issues and stop trying to point fingers at everyone else when we clearly have our own issues to deal with. This is childish and needs to stop.

@takhtar4877

2 жыл бұрын

@@Spencer0225 this is not our own issue . Clearly the issue of concubine and captive of war is in both the Bible and the Quran . why there is an issue on discussing this in light of both books . This issue has been raised specially by Christian missionaries though their own book has the same issue and like you said why point figures on others when you have same issue in your own book .

@Spencer0225

2 жыл бұрын

@@takhtar4877 This channel is not about Christian’s or Hindus or Sikhs or Jews nor is it about the Bible .It’s about Islam and the Quran. Please keep your convoluted ideas and your blame-gaming to yourself. Stop trying to pit people against each other. It solves nothing.

@takhtar4877

2 жыл бұрын

@@Spencer0225 Not sure why including bible to this relevant discussion makes you so uncomfortable . Regarding this channel or Shaikh Shabir Ali . This channel has many videos that discusses bible or discusses bible in line of issue . Shabir has been involve in many interfaith debates / discussion . You need to grow up . Finally , i never said attack the bible or any other faith . I only asked to include bible in this discussion .

@Spencer0225

2 жыл бұрын

@@takhtar4877 that’s not how you worded it. You said whether it’s fair or not to point out this issue in the Quran without mentioning the Bible. Thats called shifting blame. Focus on yourself.

This is a vrery inhuman way of dealing with the slave . On the other hand it's a kind of sex slave.That's means there is no equal rights of women in Islam. Shouldn't legalize it by giving confusing statement

@nololpog6682

2 жыл бұрын

Watch Sheik Omar Suleiman's videos on this topic. It will clear all your doubts

@a.k.7341

Жыл бұрын

If you think this is ok, Then it should be done to EVERY woman in your family. And THEN tell me how you feel. A truly good God and leader would NEVER condone the sexual harm of women at any time, at any place, by any person, and in ANY circumstances. It is NEVER appropriate to inflict sexual harm on another living being. Why would God create something just to torture it?

It's very confusing for me. Many people in Pakistan practicing this this act and doing sex with the people working in their houses and reasoning their actions from verses of Quran..

@takhtar4877

2 жыл бұрын

. I never heard people practicing in pakistan . First of all owning a slave is different than house cleaning woman . There status is not same . I dont know which part of pakistan you referring.

@unaa9380

2 жыл бұрын

You can’t own someone who works for you, they are not a slave so what they are doing is completely haram

@fizzycrush4021

2 жыл бұрын

@@unaa9380 Allah says not to inherit women by force

@whydontyoustfu

2 жыл бұрын

@@fizzycrush4021 women captured in wars?

@fizzycrush4021

2 жыл бұрын

@@whydontyoustfu There were captured men and women , they were more of a respondsibility for the Muslims to look after their welfare so they can assimilate and integrate back into society

Is a slave the same as a concubine?

@alexojideagu

2 жыл бұрын

Concubine could be free or a slave. Concubines were usually not slaves in Europe they chose to be. Basically girlfriends.

@Misakichifan

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexojideagu Ok. Why did Shabir say concubines, if we're talking about slaves?

@almondlorden

2 жыл бұрын

Historical concubines refer to slaves. and are different than mistresses or girlfriends.

@SamirSiraj8542

Жыл бұрын

​@@Misakichifanin Islam, concubine is basically slave woman

Take the time to say: 🏵Allhamdulliah×10 🌸Astaghfirullah×10 💞Allahu akbar×10 💟 Subhannallah×10 ⚘ Extra good deeds for me and you 🥀 خذ الوقت الكافي لتقول: 🌺 الحمد لله × 10 🌸 استغفر الله × 10 💞 الله أكبر × 10 💟 سبحان الله × 10 حسنات إضافية لي ولكم

Let's run and dance and not answer the question. But let me ask this do we ask these questions about Jesus????

@unaa9380

2 жыл бұрын

Calm down, this is just part one, more info to come

@syedharis3235

2 жыл бұрын

well look into bible and u will find astonishing facts about such issues ;)

6:54

Lets remember is in the both books Bible and Quran

@BlueBoardAnalysis

2 жыл бұрын

Can you provide reference to the bible where it is allowed.

@almondlorden

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlueBoardAnalysis here's some examples: Abraham had Hagar as a concubine and Solomon had 300 concubines

@shampar10

2 жыл бұрын

Polygamy is not permitted in the New Testament, but Islam clearly does though. Muhammad had 11 'wives' himself.

@almondlorden

2 жыл бұрын

@@shampar10 Polygamy is not porhibited anywhere in old tastement. in the opposite Jesus says: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

Sorry if it looks disrespectful, but I think the thumbnail is funny. That doesn't mean the video isn't interesting and about a serious subject, though.

Are you saying that there was sexual consent for slaves?

@BlueBoardAnalysis

2 жыл бұрын

lol

@nololpog6682

2 жыл бұрын

Watch Sheik Omar Suleiman's videos on this topic. It will clear all your doubts

So you are saying Muhammad behaved poorly and we should not do everything he did.

@fizzycrush4021

2 жыл бұрын

But your lord behave badly he himself had his share of 16000 virgin girls ( Numbers 31 )

@nololpog6682

2 жыл бұрын

Watch Sheik Omar Suleiman's videos on this topic. It will clear all your doubts

@charlesmuhmanson3928

2 жыл бұрын

@@nololpog6682 I thought Muhammad was supposed to be a model for all mankind (past and future). If he is not, why does the Quran claim he is?

What’s he done to his beard 🧔‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️ Please sort it out sheek! It looks weird 😩😀

why did many muslim rules such as the Ottoman sultans (e.g. Suleyman Magnificent) have several partners with whom he would have children? Isn't the limit 4 wives? Then how did the muslim rules have several (More than 4) women to have children with?

@revivalist355

Жыл бұрын

Because it was ok??

@SamirSiraj8542

Жыл бұрын

I think Ottoman rulers had concubines, they didn’t have wife. And there is no limit for concubines so they had many concubines

If concubine practice was okay in islam then can I have a girlfriend?

@ninjadebruyns8577

2 жыл бұрын

Good question. If the early generation had concubines it would seem odd that a modern person can't have an actual consensual relationship without being marriage. I hope they will answer your question.

@revivalist355

2 жыл бұрын

No, girlfriend/ boyfriend is totally haram / unacceptable

@sirahmad

10 ай бұрын

no bro

No clear answer in this episode of the series.

@BlueBoardAnalysis

2 жыл бұрын

Marketing for second and third episode.

Our beloved Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم is the best of creations to set foot on this earth. He is the perfect role model and we must strive to follow his Sunnah always

@NRFP

2 жыл бұрын

Go read bhukhari hadith companion sell captive women after ra pe them. i am born muslim but sorry to say that

@bryanbradley6871

2 жыл бұрын

😂 Robert E Lee

@revivalist355

2 жыл бұрын

@@NRFP you are a lost soul. Your Islam is in question

@NRFP

2 жыл бұрын

@@revivalist355 Yes my heart is broken as muslim after studied it. women are not product as sell & buy.

@NRFP

2 жыл бұрын

@@revivalist355 Yes my heart is broken after studied it

This narrative really doesn’t satisfy me.

@nololpog6682

2 жыл бұрын

Watch Sheik Omar Suleiman's videos on this topic. It will clear all your doubts

@kasparov6471

4 ай бұрын

​@@nololpog6682 It doesn't clear my doubt

@nololpog6682

4 ай бұрын

@@kasparov6471 what is it

@kasparov6471

4 ай бұрын

@@nololpog6682 You haven't answered my question yet

@nololpog6682

4 ай бұрын

@@kasparov6471 that's what I am asking. What is your doubt

Islam is similar to what Abraham believed who had Hagar who is/ an was considered Coccubine. The relationship of ancient man and woman was part of wider slavery system that islam or other Abrahamic religions did not address in comprehensive way.

@BlueBoardAnalysis

2 жыл бұрын

So basically islam is a copy of the older traditions

@AliAhmed-pu8pk

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlueBoardAnalysis Not a copy but there are similarities and differences among the religions. so this social phenomenon of slavery is one of the the things that has been shared and not addressed. The Prophet (PBUH) passed away and wahyi stopped before Islam reached large population centers in Middle East, then the issue of slavery become controversial among Muslim scholars.

@bodhisattva6308

2 жыл бұрын

it is different in the sense that the Quran is regarded directly from 'God'. Bible is not...secondly, The Quran's message is for eternity, hence it's practices are generally regarded ideal for ever.

@shampar10

2 жыл бұрын

@@AliAhmed-pu8pk How did the prophet die?

Dr shabir should take a concubine haha

@a.k.7341

Жыл бұрын

If you think this is ok, Then it should be done to EVERY woman in your family. And THEN tell me how you feel. A truly good God and leader would NEVER condone the sexual harm of women at any time, at any place, by any person, and in ANY circumstances. It is NEVER appropriate to inflict sexual harm on another living being. Why would God create something just to torture it?

If this practice was done by Muhammad then how could he be seen as the best example for us to follow?

Woman are not expected to be sexually attracted to her master. She becomes like property and the man does as he pleases so thay if sex with her pleases him that he has it for himself. It has not been removed from teachings.

@a.k.7341

Жыл бұрын

If you think this is ok, Then it should be done to EVERY woman in your family. And THEN tell me how you feel. A truly good God and leader would NEVER condone the sexual harm of women at any time, at any place, by any person, and in ANY circumstances. It is NEVER appropriate to inflict sexual harm on another living being. Why would God create something just to torture it?

@aaronsanchez4217

Жыл бұрын

@@a.k.7341 because it's the same God that allows sin, people to suffer, Satan & Demons to roam free. There are many lessons in submission and humility. We are tested all the time. Masters are expected to be fair under Scripture just the same way husbands are to be good & just in being the head over their wife. We have roles of many different kinds. There is a good and proper way to fulfill them. Look to be obedient in following Scripture. God rewards us for obedience in facing tribulation. Justice is the reward in still being obedient through the tribulations we face. What is wrong and not just is wishing something with negative intentions and for a negative outcome upon someone. Justice is what outcome awaits from FATHER. Mercy is reserved for those that wish mercy and forgiveness for those who do bad. Shalawam 🪔🙏🏼📖

I'm all for educational discussion but I would never sit where our beloved Prophet SAW is being discussed in disgusting way. This is not a question for a muslim. If none muslim has a question they should start from learning who Allaah is and why He has created us. We love our Prophet SAW and we don't want to hear such nonsense.

@kissmybeard2378

2 жыл бұрын

What non sense? You don't want to hear the deen of Allah?

Until you follow hadees along with Quran you will have to go on defending these kind of insult to prophet and God, please follow only Quran with new age educated scholars translation.

Very disturbing....can't be from Allah. It is mentioned in Quran, don’t need any further explanation.

@nololpog6682

2 жыл бұрын

Watch Sheik Omar Suleiman's videos on this topic. It will clear all your doubts

@a.k.7341

Жыл бұрын

A truly good God and leader would NEVER condone the sexual harm of women at any time, at any place, by any person, and in ANY circumstances. It is NEVER appropriate to inflict sexual harm on another living being

What a load of bull. Completely ignored the question. Straw man argument

@nololpog6682

2 жыл бұрын

Watch Sheik Omar Suleiman's videos on this topic. It will clear all your doubts

But... Why even bother about these questions? It's a historical piece of writing, sure. But it makes no sense to preach justice by the same prophet who owns slaves.

Prophet had no concubine

@NRFP

2 жыл бұрын

Ask dr zakir naik

@shampar10

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@NRFP

2 жыл бұрын

Read sira book

Yes, the subject is difficult to comprehend, but I will mention the beautiful thing first. Osama bin Zaid is the son of a former slave of the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, and the Prophet assigned him to lead the army at a very young age, younger than 20. under his command were noblemen who were known for their courage and fighting skills . Is there equity and equal chances better than that even by the standards of our time?

@ovaiszohan3766

2 жыл бұрын

We're discussing about concubines not the treatment of slaves collectively

@HamidA-to8vy

2 жыл бұрын

@@ovaiszohan3766 If you think my comment is not related, you might skip it and find more related comments.

@ovaiszohan3766

2 жыл бұрын

@@HamidA-to8vy I just wanted to let u know... So i did🥴

@shairsko9360

2 жыл бұрын

@@ovaiszohan3766 same! No idea what the dude just wrote there ngl! 🤦‍♂️

Alpha males have multiple wives, nothing wrong with it.

The amount of mental gymnastic you have to do in order to justify Mohammed's actions is hilarious. Like, mixing of opposite genders is prohibited since it may lead to fitnah and zina is also punishable and haraam. However, feeling sexual attraction to concubines is not fitnah and having sexual intercourse with them is not zina. How can you not see the easiest solution here? Just don't have sex with them, period. If you accept that sexual attraction alone justifies sex with concubines, then any extra-marital or pre-marital sexual relationships should be allowed, or you have to bite the bullet and proclaim that concubines are worth less than free people. Or, you can just admit that Quran is an out-dated book written by human being(s) who lived a long time ago, and thus endorses moral actions that were a product of that time and not applicable in the present world.

Not this again !

@ovaiszohan3766

2 жыл бұрын

Y not?

@alabidavid2895

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

I would recommend watching yasir qadhi's video on "slavery in islam" on youtube.. There he explained with simplicity 👍.

The prophet was a great human being but he was also a man of his time so we follow his universal massage of worshiping The creator and his good actions not his personal mistakes and the culture he lived the problem is conservative traditionalist turn him god like figure which he clearly rejected.

@NRFP

2 жыл бұрын

Concubine is not haram in our islam. its called milk al yamin(right hand process)in quran.

@takhtar4877

2 жыл бұрын

@@NRFP it is not haram in bible either . Abrahim , David and Solomon all had concubine

@unaa9380

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I think people worship him instead or next to Allah when he was a human and completely rejected this, and this is why people don’t understand he made mistakes like any humans and lived during his time before everything we know today like electricity etc it was a different time, only one who is perfect in all times is Allah

@unaa9380

2 жыл бұрын

@@NRFP it is a solution to a problem that existed back then, everyone now knows concubine doesn’t make sense in todays world

@whydontyoustfu

2 жыл бұрын

@@takhtar4877 that doesnt make it rught? all bunch of primitive old books

yes, he completely avoids the questions - terrible

What is he talking about 🤣😂? I don't understand anything from his answer

@a.k.7341

Жыл бұрын

If you think this is ok, Then it should be done to EVERY woman in your family. And THEN tell me how you feel. A truly good God and leader would NEVER condone the sexual harm of women at any time, at any place, by any person, and in ANY circumstances. It is NEVER appropriate to inflict sexual harm on another living being. Why would God create something just to torture it?

Salam, The prophet did not have any concubines , as it is not allowed in Islam , see Q 4:25

@childaisha5098

Жыл бұрын

I have given reference in quran which speaks about the worse character of profir muhamud 1. Mohammud was a w0manizer and he exchanged his w1ves and s3x s1aves with his friends qu-ran chap 33 verse 52 and 53, taking s3x s1aves is sanctioned in qu-ran 8:67 an chap 23: verses 1 ,5,6. 2. Muhammud lu5ted his daughter in law zainab and forced his adopted son to divorce her immediately using 3 talaq and married her through order of his Phimp Wallah qu-ran chap 33:37. 3. If Mohd’s friends saw his two newly added favorite wives, Zainab and his latest v1rgin wife Aisha ( 9 yrs) in his house will ask for exchange ,bcoz Mohd. used to do it quran chap 33 verse 52 , so jealous Mohd. discovered the hijab verse and asked his wives to cover up when his friends come home, If they are not covered Mohd’s friends will disturb his wives............... A man is known by his friends ??

@RiffatZaheer-ti2lo

8 ай бұрын

​@@childaisha5098Whats your religion? go and read about your religion first. what you people are doing everyone knows.

You can clearly sense how Shabbir Ally was struggling to find the words to justify this heinous, disgusting and immoral act in Islam.

@zahinelahi2655

2 жыл бұрын

Yet you have islam in your name🤭

@shairsko9360

2 жыл бұрын

@@zahinelahi2655 he’s another ex Muslim hater who still misses being a Muslim 🤣🤣🤦‍♂️

@zahinelahi2655

2 жыл бұрын

@@shairsko9360 Islam lives in his head rent free xD

@shairsko9360

2 жыл бұрын

@@zahinelahi2655 yup complete clowns 🤡 these so called ex Muslims 😃😃

@alabidavid2895

2 жыл бұрын

@@shairsko9360 I knew he shouldn't have done that, but to be honest, Mohamed was an immoral man

concubinage is pre islamic thing

Could you please shed some light on the concept of 'Mutah' or Temporary marriage in Islam?

@SamirSiraj8542

Жыл бұрын

It's haram in Islam.

@Flagship7

Жыл бұрын

@@SamirSiraj8542 Then why did the prophet allowed it?

@SamirSiraj8542

Жыл бұрын

@@Flagship7 cause it was in Arab culture. Drinking was in arab culture. It was slowly erased like mutah. Changing a culture suddenly wont work. So, slowly it must be erased. Like alcohol wasn’t haram first. God slowly made it haram. Arabs used to drink a lot. First they were told not to drink during prayer, then it was told to drink only in celebration. Then drinking was made haram. Same with mutah. It was slowly made haram cause it was part of their culture. It took time. Changing a culture suddenly is impossible. So, it was done this way. If you did even a bit research, you would know

@Flagship7

Жыл бұрын

@@SamirSiraj8542 then why it is still practiced in Muslim countries?

@mansibagri3314

8 ай бұрын

@@Flagship7 It’s like saying why do ppl kill each other even though it’s against the law

evwn it is legal un quran which i dont believe it is, i refuse to be the second woman!!!!

Dr.Shabir these things not just happened in the past. On the basis Islam's own reliable sources -- biography of Muhammad and Sahih Hadith, Muhammad engaged in selling and buying slaves, taking sex slaves as part of the booty. In one incident there was this really beautiful woman as part of the booty of war, one of companion's Muhammad had taken that woman as the spoils of war, another companion came to Muhammad and said, that particular woman is really beautiful and you might keep her to yourself. Muhammad called the guy who had taken the lady, told him that he can have 4 or 5 other woman of his choice but he has let go of first woman that he had taken, so Muhammad could have her for himself.

@mansibagri3314

8 ай бұрын

Where is the source?

What an absolute train wreck islam theology is

That's why sanatan dharm is great

@irfanmehmud63

2 жыл бұрын

Ummm ever heard about the caste system?

@gulammustafa8845

2 жыл бұрын

Have you not heard of DEVADASI PRATHA prevalent in SANATAN DHARMA

@ovaiszohan3766

2 жыл бұрын

Oh please😂😂😂

@syedharis3235

2 жыл бұрын

and how about burning of women after the death of husband(sati)?

Slavery is simply condoned in Islam; this sad and disgusting fact should not and could not be sugarcoated.

This woman probably has Jewish dna and her ancestors might be Christian. Thank god I believe in god. Jesus loves you momma. Ask and you will find seek and it will be answered.

This subject should be discuss in the light of both Bible and Quran . In bible , Abrahim has sex with concubine. David has many concubine . Solomon has 700 wives and 300 concubine not once condemned by God in the bible . Numbers 31 Deuteronomy 21:11 talks about war captive .

@Natalie-fj7fs

2 жыл бұрын

700 wives and 300 concubines?? I doubt that. There must be a symbolical meaning behind these numbers.

@NRFP

2 жыл бұрын

All Abrahamic religion has biggest issue with this.

@tictac7359

2 жыл бұрын

@T Akhtar The bible does not condemn ever act it disapproves of. Rather, it lays down principles so that the reader knows where it stands on issues. Here is an example, “But the king must not acquire many horses for himself or send the people back to Egypt to acquire more horses, for the LORD has said, ‘You are never to go back that way again.’ HE MUST NOT TAKE MANY WIVES FOR HIMSELF, lest his heart go astray. He must not accumulate for himself large amounts of silver and gold.” - Deuteronomy 17:16-17 The passage above was supposedly written centuries before Solomon. Now, when you consider that his many wives and concubines led him astray, is it not clear to the fair reader than God did not approve of his multiple marriages? We say that in many places the Bible is descriptive and not prescriptive. No Christian would look at Solomon’s many relationships and be like, “Yep, that’s God’s plan for my life. I need to marry as many wives as I can”.

@tictac7359

2 жыл бұрын

@@NRFP Unlike Mohammed in the Quran, Abraham, David, and Solomon are not described in the Bible as the “perfect pattern of conduct”. We read about these great men of God and yet we see where they failed. The issue for Muslims is that their prophet who was supposed to be the best human, was no where close to being the best human. So they try to make excuses for him. Did Solomon really need 700 wives and 300 concubines? No! Did Mohammed need 9 or 11 wives and concubines on top? No!

@saifdevdas7656

2 жыл бұрын

ADMIT IT___QURAN CAME OUT OF BIBLE__THE PROOF IS INCONTROVERTIBLE.

"We don't follow today" and ISIS be like yeah, I think so".

Concubines were second class citizens. A slave can not give consent. It is IMMORAL to own another human being. Slaves and their only hope was to be impregnated and bear a child so that at least when the master dies she is no longer raped. However if she does not produce a child she is property and is willed to the next in line to be raped by them. Mohamed the Prophet had sex/raped his wife's slaves and women who were not "concubines". Muslim women are not allowed to have a male concubine. Either Islam is for all times and Mohammed was the perfect example whose example should be followed by all or NOT. This cherry picking nonsense is insulting to those with an IQ over 80.