Titan Ifrit Garuda and Bahamut showing up are just Summoner skills in case you aren't aware

In case you didn't notice, the reason Haurchefaunt was able to saved in the rewind was because the previous phases allowed for an Limit Break 3, which a tank then used to perserve Haurchefaunt's HP long enough to destroy Zephirin's Spear. Also, if you chose to kill Thordan and not spare him, the fight essentially loops back to the Nidhogg's eyes phase. However, since Haurchefaunt and Ysayle aren't ghosts, they can't provide the buffs necessary to harm the eyes, making them unkillable and ensuring a wipe. Thus, Dragon-King Thordan becomes a necessary evil.

A sad part of the section with Nidhogg and Hraesvalgr, if anyone goes down to Hraesvalgr's mechanics, he would have broken his promise to Shiva to never bring harm to a mortal. He will then enter enrage due to grief, and wipe the party.

@ryutheslayer123

Жыл бұрын

Are you telling me that for that one phase, NO ONE can die??

@vandalx2458

Жыл бұрын

@@ryutheslayer123 just that no one can die to hraesvalgrs mechanics, you can die to nidhoggs mechanics and not trigger hraesvalgrs enrage.

@wijester7171

Жыл бұрын

@@ryutheslayer123 isnt that also true for Nidhogg since he promised eternal suffering to mankind if anyone whit his debuff dies he also enrages

@Ilynnaris

Жыл бұрын

@@wijester7171 Technically the person with the debuff can die and not trigger Nidhogg's enrage. It needs to be passed to someone to avoid the enrage so as long as they're ressed in time or someone stands on the dead body and gets hit by the explosion to get the debuff he won't enrage. Though actually doing that is difficult so most times ends in a wipe.

@zannibalable

Жыл бұрын

in that phase, none should die.

Hey! I’m the Dragoon in the video :) I’m surprised with just how intuitively you were analyzing fight based on the visuals alone, especially with how insanely complicated it can look at times. It took over 1800 pulls to clear this beast of a fight, but it was worth every wipe! If you have the time, patience, and a group to attempt this, I’d highly recommend it. This is the best piece of raid content this game has had in years!

@2caves

Жыл бұрын

1800? Damn that's insane! Well you guys did awesome..I appreciate how hard it must've been! I definitely plan to try Ulti's at some point in the future.. but before that I gotta even attempt my first extreme D:

@QuasarManiac

Жыл бұрын

@@2caves Everyone starts somewhere! Extremes are definitely a great introduction to raiding. Once you’re comfortable with those, I’d tackle Savage difficulty next. As for Ultimates, I recommend UwU (Ultima Weapon Ultimate) as your first. That’s how I got into Ultimates, and is a great stepping stone towards learning the harder ultimates like Bahamut and Dragonsong. It’s a long process and requires learning the games mechanics as well as your job inside and out, but the rewards are worth the price! Good luck!!!

If Haurchefant lives, we have no reason to rush to Azys Lla, as we were moved by vengeance. No rush, King Thordan feasts on the powers of the Warring Triad sealed there and proceeds to raid Dravania. With all his power, he starts controlling dragons and using Allagan technology - the same restraints used in Bahamut, Tiamat and Twintania - to control Hraesvelgr. Then, Thordan reappears and blast the Steps of Faith by absorbing the eyes of both dragon siblings, killing everyone in them. Probably, Alphinaud, Ysayle, Lucia and Aymeric dies as well. NOW you're moved by vengeance and storm Zenith, were Thordan awaits you for your judgement. Save Haurchefant, a kingdom dies. Save one life, condemn others. He was a knight, proud to the bone. He finished his duty. Do not change the past.

@ShadowZabre

Жыл бұрын

I always take issue with that first sentiment. Haurchefant living doesn't make us Not a Scion of the Seventh Dawn. We'd STILL be after stopping a possible Primal Threat, Which is one of the Scion's main jobs. Aymeric would still ask us to stop his father, because Haurchefant's death happened AFTER Aymeric was beaten down by his father and told his grand plan. And we would still gone to Azyz Lla, Ysayle still dies as Shiva, we still beat the crap out of Throdan, Estinien would still be consumed by Nidhogg, we still earn Hraesvlagr's trust, We still use his eye to level the playing field. The Only Change is when we beat Estinieddhog this time, Ysayle will still be there, but not Haurchefant. If you need a second ghost, Moen died not too long before hand and as of 3.3, Minfilia is a ghost in the Lifestream, the Eye's power could've woken her up. The only thing Haurchefant's death gave us is a little extra push down a hill we were already rolling. Such is the character assassination the Wandering Minstrel puts us through. But it is nice to dream of going back and seeking a more pleasant end. But if such things were possible, We wouldn't have a broken shield, now would we?

@carlfromaccounting1112

Жыл бұрын

@@ShadowZabre that's all true for the Scions, but they are not the only characters at play in Heavensward. You can bet that the other High Houses would do all in their power to stop the Scions from going to Azys Lla, probably going on some spiel to Hauchefaunt that "he's lucky that the Archbishop didn't kill him for his transgression" And if we aren't allowed to go after Thordan, then we also don't arrive in the Sea of Clouds before the Empire who, since we don't stop their shenanigans, most likely kill Bismark and all of the Vanu with it.

@ShadowZabre

Жыл бұрын

@@carlfromaccounting1112 IF we were able to be stopped by the High Houses, we wouldn't have gone to meet Hraesvlagr and We wouldn't have raided the Vault in the first place. They have no power over the Scions, who have not only staved off Vishnap destroying the Wards, but also went and killed Nidhogg in his own home. Would they be able to stop the Ironworks from personally delivering us? No, why would they bar outsiders from helping outsiders from leaving the city? And why wouldn't they have stopped us after Haurchefant died? House Dzemael itself would bend over backwards to point at House Fortemps and shout to every corner of the world "Look Look they were punished for transgressions," and not a single damn person cared besides us and the Fortemps Manor that Haurchefant died. Because who would open their mouth against the men and women who killed a dragon capable of ruining their entire city and army? And why would the other two High Houses kick up a stink like you said anyways? For House Durendaire, we not only uncovered a secret heretic attack on their people, we won back Stone Vigil (Twice if you do Stone Vigil HM), we fought and beat back the invasion forces come to reclaim both Stone and Steel Vigils before the Steps of Faith, and we beat down Lady Iceheart who had become Shiva. For House Hailenhart, We not only Saved the next head of their High House, we now ALSO have saved that next Head's Best Friend, not to mention all the work we did for the Rose Knights in the Sea of Clouds. For all their Xenophobia, Ishgard returns favors done for them. What's more, if you go by Ishikawa's statement of "The first option is the Canon Choice," It ISN'T Revenge guiding us. Aymeric only recognizes the second option of "I'll have Ser Zepharin's Heart for what he did to Haurchefant!" as wanting vengeance. So if you use the First option answer each time as canon, it wasn't vengeance.

@BlazeIgnitus

Жыл бұрын

That doesn't really track logically, though. We've already seen that the Heavens' Ward are like primals in terms of their similar transformation to Ysayle's. We would absolutely continue to pursue them and Archbishop Thordan.

Also the whole Minstrel business that you thought was about Stormblood is actually not, you can meet the Minstrel in the Rising Stones, he unlocks harder versions of trials you've done. Fun reaction btw!!

I don't see that anyone else mentioned this yet - the reason you were seeing Titan now and then is because it's a Summoner job ability at a higher level. Part of the SMN job quest line relates to being able to summon "egi"s of primals after you've defeated them. When you've got Titan summoned you can cast earth-based abilities, Ifrit allows fire-based abilities, and Garuda wind-based abilities. There are a couple other summons too but I'll let you see it for yourself. I'm glad you reacted to this, I hadn't watched the full fight before or looked up the story but this is a really cool exploration of what could be. I also love the alternate timeline stuff. Thanks for the vid!

Yeah, I believe that last move was the start of the enrage. The last phase of each ultimate raid tends to make its enrage a bit more dramatic than normal with the boss killing each party member one at a time (or in groups of three apparently in this one's case) instead of the whole group at once. You need to choose who sacrifices themselves there for the rest of the group to keep pumping damage out to try and finish it before everyone falls.

So, the story goes as follows, if you chose to save Haurchefant, you don't have the impetus to chase after Elf Pope as fast as possible, which means he goes about slaughtering and enslaving the dragons, and in his grief and rage, Nidhogg-Stein forces the use of Tiamat's bindings on Hraesvelgar once he takes Ascalon's eye back. The ending you see is that letting Haurchefant die saves more lives, as you don't lose the dragons to God King Thordan. Without Hraesvelgr, things go very differently, same goes with Vidolfnir not being around. The Dragonsong War ends... with the total destruction of the Dragons in Coerthas.

o _ o whoa, it's me Glad you enjoyed! I'm happy to answer any questions as well, I'm a big fan of DSR. I TRIED to get most mechanics on screen, but certain things like gaze eyes/dives/Haurchefant+Ysayle in the background during double dragons, it's hard for me to linger on given *gestures at everything*

@2caves

Жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for the video and great clear! It was my first time seeing an Ultimate and you all did a really great job showcasing the whole thing :D I can't even imagine how long it must've taken.. How long did it take you to get into the serious high-end content?

@Ekoyuhale

Жыл бұрын

@@2caves I started playing at the end of Heavensward, with Stormblood 4.0’s deltascape being my first savage raid tier. I joined a solid group in 4.2 and would end up clearing UwU in 4.5. My two cents for getting into ultimates is definitely work your way up by doing EX and a current Savage raid tier, and find a group with similar goals. A group that enjoys raiding together is the number one best thing you can have, the rest comes naturally. When expectations are aligned, stress is low, and that makes it much more fun!

to answer your question at 18:37 it took hundreds of hours/pulls to figure it out for the world first groups. Trial and error, as well as familiarity with the original fights gives some clues as well. Can't wait to watch the prog for the next Ultimate launching tomorrow.

23:48 thats actually really observant of you to notice that with everything going on. That's exactly what it's for, no matter what pattern the exaflares are, as long as Thordan is facing North or South, doing th8e dodge into those diamonds will be a guaranteed safe dodge

Dope video bro, super cool to see a new(ish) player's perspective on something as intricate as an ultimate. During both Thordan phases there were multiple gaze mechanics where they would have to look away from 2 eyes on the outside of the arena or they'd die, while at the same time be knocked back into a tower soak lol. It was like 4 days into the race til anyone got to Haurchefaunt and found out tank limit break was the only was to save him so you could actually attack the spear. This clear was done way after guides came out so they got everything down super clean, but any sort of deaths are pretty hard to recover from and there are tons of one shot mechanics. Heavy precision fight and by far the hardest content in the game. ONE LAST THING - if anyone dies to Hraesvelgr he freaks out auto enrages kills everyone, because he promised Shiva he'd never take a human life.

The thing about these Ultimate Fights that the video didn't show is that groups like these that do these kind of fights usually spend weeks if not MONTHS practicing this fight. And to make matters worse, Ultimate Fights do not have checkpoints. You have to do the entire fight all in one go or you go back to Phase 1 again. Zepla's group went the extreme route because they were trying to complete it before they had to go back to work. In her followup video, she explained her thoughts on doing that fight for 8 hours each day during their Christmas vacation. I've only got access to the first Ultimate, The Weapon's Refrain, and I am very hesitant to even think about trying it. The 5th Ultimate is due to come out in a week or two and it will be the first one that is Stormblood-centric, so I can't elaborate any further on this one. As for The Wandering Minstrel himself, he's in Mor Dhona where all those Blue Quests are on your map. Talk to the barkeep, Alys, and that is what will unlock his trials for you. Doing these quests will let you take on much tougher versions of Ultima Weapon, The Second Coil of Bahamut, King Thordan, and Nidhogg. Doing Thordan EX and Nidhogg EX will give you a taste of some of those mechanics they use in the Ultimate Fight.

@mincho0616

Жыл бұрын

But this is the only Ultimate that HAS a checkpoint because the length of it is longer then the other ultimates. This also one of the reasons why is the hardest.

@DantoriusD

Жыл бұрын

@@mincho0616 TBH Phase 1 is just a Joke and even without a Checkpoint its just racing trough. No really Hard mechanics there. Phase 1 only serves as an Introduction to the whole "Alternate Timeline" Theme of the Ultimate.

@theexiledones1

Жыл бұрын

@@mincho0616 That's not the point of the checkpoint at all in DSR. It's to serve as a story element. Phase 1 doesn't count towards parses either if you are parsing. The whole fight from phase 2 - 7 is about 19 minutes long.

@debatinghealer

Жыл бұрын

one of the things I like about Ultimates in a way compared to Mythics in WoW is the different story telling of events etc that they have but i can't stay playing long did UWU but the combat system just feels so slow and clunky at times esp with snap shotting being a thing to compensate for high ping players

18:35 You would've loved to have seen the Race to World First when it was happening. The stuff that people were able to figure out while fighting blind was a sight to behold, and every time a phase had been beaten, everyone would rejoice, whether it be on Twitch or on Twitter.

"How did they figure those shit?" , It takes a lot of practice, analysation, teamwork and patience. DSR is the most difficult raid that FF14 devs did. Aside the normal (MSQ) raid, if you want to know more mechanics of the game, you go extreme level raid and then savage and then ultimate. Since plugins are no no in FF14, nothing will tell you what to do. You have to check your debuffs, the boss casting, the position where you need to stand and fiddling your HUD (for your comfortability). People in FF14 can help you if you have questions, just ask questions.

There's no "end of stormblood stuff" going on here. Ultimates are fanfiction written by the Wandering Minstrel.

you catch on to things quite fast, you'll make a good raider

@jerome6519

Жыл бұрын

he really would theres so many things that i missed that he took note of and ive watched this fight multiple time from multiple POVs

I cackled out loud when he said "half Einstein half Nidhogg" HE SAYS IT AGAIN AT THE KIND THORDAN 2 PHASE LMAO

Yeah every ultimate has a unique enrage that's basically a mechanic to delay the enrage as much as possible, usually by killing people one by one. The Alexander ultimate is really cool because you have to freeze people in time one by one to delay the enrage

Right at the end when the 3 players died WAS the final enrage, yes. Ultimate enrages typically do that, one final super long cast that slowly kills off the team member by member until either your group or the boss is dead.

Those deaths at the end are the enrage - they died to soak the tower. Then he'll do it again and again until everyone's dead or there's not enough people left to soak (and everyone's dead not long after) Ultimate trial mechanics are mayhem at first glance, but very easy once you know what's going on. Then it's a matter of endurance, avoiding mistakes for twenty odd minutes.

i think the thordan phase of the alternate reality is Thordan waging his holy war on the dragons and you as the WoL is intervening (thats what i gathered at least; this is the first time im actually watching the fight, tho i knew some of the details from it already)

God the music in this fight is so good T - T

You should do Throdan's Reign and Nidhogg's Rage synced to get a better understanding of what is going on.

the story for these harder modes (extreme trials, ultimate raids, etc) is essentially a what if or a re imagination of the events that happened provided by the NPC that unlocks them- The Wandering Minstrel. He exaggerates the fights when he retells the story thus making it harder than what it was. Pretty much a challenge mode. Fun fact, That NPC is supposed to be a in game model of the producer of the game is there to pretty much congratulate the player and their acheivements

with ulti's the enrage usually kills you off one by one. as well since its a lvl 90 you seein a lot of effects from lvl 90 abilities there, the summoners for example. But the minstrel is the one that unlocks the harder content for you in most cases such as extremes and ultimate, though this ulti was the first where he actually changed up the story rather than just adding the flourish of everything was impossible but we overcame impossible odds.

i didnt know the difficult content has this much thought put into it holy shit this game is unreal

Usually these kinds of fights take a good 3 to 4 months to learn and perfect, to the best of a group's ability. Though if you're a crazy person, like the world first groups, you could clear in about 1 to 2 weeks give or take with breaks in between.

What happened at the end there is the enrage. He will do a 1 hit kill on 3 of the spots shown. If noone is in the spot it kills everyone. So it will kill 3 people (usually you want 2 healers and a least damaging tank) then 1 tank and 2 dps (least dps of the dps) and finally just death since there's no way to fulfill the last hit with only 2 people :P

Don't worry I have played the game for a bit over 2 years now and I'm just beginning to poke my leg into Ultimate content.

I think you could watch Mr happy's video explaining the whole fight after he cleared, he explains what is happening very well, and whoever told you that you need to know stormblood stuff to understand the lore of DSR is wrong, the whole thing boils down to "what could have happened if instead of A, B is what happened" you onky new to finish 3.3 to know all that is happening in DSR

HIS SOLEMN VOW BROKEN HRAESVALGR FLIES INTO A RAGE!

When talking about no one dying, a thing to note is a lot of stages no one really is allowed to die. Especially during the 2 dragons if someone dies it goes right into enrage

Extremes, savages, and Ultimates are exaggerated retellings of the normal content. The true stories/canon are the normal versions. When we speak to Wandering Minstrel he asks us to tell him the story of what we did and went through so that he may share it with others. He then shares with us his version of what happened and we get to play as ourselves in that retold story via the Extreme/Savage/Ultimate duty. Except with DSR where it starts off as just an exaggeration before going back to the beginning and changing one detail which has the potential for many consequences down the road and thus an alternate story that never happened.

I want to note that if you die to any mechanic from Hraesvelgr during phase 6 its an instant wipe because of the promise he makes to never hurt anyone. Only tho his mechanics you can die to Nidhogg and still be fine.

What a cool concept for an ultimate

@DantoriusD

Жыл бұрын

It is by far the Best Ultimate ever designed in Terms of Mechanics,Difficulty and also Storywise. Ucob and Uwu were totally boring compared to this. Even TEA is just a re imagining. DSR has also a really interesting Story in it.

So this fite is an alternative hevensward ending?

@tiffk5768

Жыл бұрын

Yeah its basically an AU.

Love him calling Estinien, "Einstien"

@atziwy

Жыл бұрын

I laughed out loud the two times he does it hahahaha

Howdy, I'm the dancer in this video! I'm very glad that our hours and hours of practice ended up going to good use lmao If you'd like to see, I have our very first clear uploaded on my channel with voice comms!

@2caves

Жыл бұрын

Ohh that would be interesting to hear, I will have to check that one out thank you! Also belated congrats on the clear too!

This has nothing to do with Stormblood. It's just basically the wandering minstrel playing a song, first a version of what happened then he starts over and tells a story of what could have happened had Haurchefaunt survived

This fight NEEDS to be clean. If someone dies you'll most likely not get a DPS check or a mechanic will wipe the party. Even if you only get a damage down that can already mean you have to reset.

I have played FFXIV since launch and I have cleared every savage and extreme there are. For those that know all the mechanics and have gone through it, I wish there are a form of a special Savage raid where it's a gauntlet of mechanics from every Savages in the game being mixed in and shuffled. Perhaps having over hundreds upon hundreds of different combinations all randomized. I think this would be an interesting form of an ultimate or we can call it "throwbacks" to see who gets the farthest.

@DantoriusD

Жыл бұрын

Tbh FF14 didnt have that much Mechanics in General. Most of the Mechanics can easy Breakdown into Spread,Stack,In,Out with that all together mixed. Most of the biggest Memorable Mechanics are often Unique Signature Puzzle Mechanics from the Savages. Like Grand Cross in O4s, Hello World in O12s or High Concept in P8s. But like High Concept you can also easy Break Down this Mechanic into Spread,Stack and Towers. FF14 did a extreme good Job in Mechanic Designs but when you like you said played this Game for so long and did every Encoukter you find a lot of similarities within Mechanics of Each Fight.

they reason that there's no player death is because if someone died, it is (most of the time) guaranteed to be a wipe because you don't have enough ppl to resolve the mechs great video btw! looking forward to more of your adventures!

Take a cliser look into it. You missed a lot of what's been going on in the background and that is even more heartbreaking ^^

Hark-faunt !

The deaths at the end is just have 3 people solo soak them whilst they kill burn down the boss

@DantoriusD

Жыл бұрын

No they have to die. If you dont soak towers everyone dies. So on that Tower you usually put in Both Healers and the Tank and they die. After that he puts out the next Towers and so on. This Set of Towers serves as an Enrage Mechanic. Every Ultimate has a Fancy Enrage. In Ucob Bahamut shots Ankh Mohrns and Kill everyone after another, Uwu let you float and then just die one after another and in TEA you have a Cage Mechanic where people get prisoned and then die one by one.

Man ive cleared lots of Extremes and savages but i still feel that a Ultimate Is way beyond me

@znarch

Жыл бұрын

Start with UWU - it's a good introduction to the overall feel and pacing of ultimates and is old enough where the update potencies and job changes is enough to skip a few of otherwise difficult mechanics

May someday you also get to do an ultimate, I recommend uwu first :D.

Nope, can't do it. Too much shit to remember for DSR I'm happy with having done UWU. Got my white mage staff. Feelsgood. Not even trying a second ultimate.

Your rotation has to be so practiced that it takes literally no thought at all for you to be able to do stuff like this, because you need all your brain just to remember where to be and what to do at what point, etc. It's crazy.

Another somber note about the alternate timeline - You observed Haurchefant fighting in the background on the bridge during Double Dragons. Isayle is also there and I believe so is Alphinaud and Estinien. Well.......the birth of Dragon King Thordan murders them all anyway, meaning we have nothing left to really live for. So then we chase Thordan to Sohr Kai to murder him for destroying everything we hold dear. Yep.

@clawtooth35

Жыл бұрын

I don't think we know that everyone dies in the alt timeline -- all we see is Alphinaud dragging Estinien away, Haurchefant and Ysayle are behind the camera and I think are still just autoattacking when it happens.

Maybe go try to do Thordan EX it's one if not the best ex trial in the. Definitely not easy but also far from hard. Very fun tbh Xd

Who ever Told you it was "End of StormBlood" stuff was an idiot. The NPC in question has been permanently in the game since the "Minstrel's Ballad: Ultima Refrain." Which is A Realm Reborn Content, and semi-permenantly as the NPC involved in the yearly Rising Holiday Event before that trial was added. The Minstrel at that time composed a song of battling the Ultima Weapon, except exaggerated to entertain the audience More. Infact, he's also responsible for Heavensward's Nidhogg Extreme Fight as well. So the "how" of is is "The Minstrel is retelling the story, But even bigger and more grand! AND WHAT IF WE DID THIS OTHER COOL THING IN THERE TOO!" kinda serial escalation thing.

react to TEA ultimate next :D

@slAndeh

Жыл бұрын

He should probably do the HW raid series first to understand that one.

Ah ultimates, where the easiest part was reading the guides.

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I can't help but get a small chuckle every time you say "there's so much to remember" because I get what you say. But in my experience, ultimates is less about remembering, and more about 'just doing it' and only think about what's happening right now, and not what's gonna happen 10 minutes into the fight. You have the beat the mechanic you're at now, and nothing else. and then repeat that. Progging an ultimate takes a long long time, because you want your brain to almost automate the process. Hope to be able to help ya out when you dare set foot in an ultimate too someday

true fact : the fight is actually 18 min long ( 21 min if you include the p1) and is actually the longest fight of ff xiv, also the longest fight in all mmo history.

@clawtooth35

Жыл бұрын

not the longest fight in MMO history, not by a long shot -- but still the longest fight in XIV with an enrage.

@zannibalable

Жыл бұрын

@@clawtooth35 it is since the most longest fight was a raid from wildstar but it has a checkpoint between 2 boss making it only 2x 10 min long instead of 20 min. Meanwhile ff have 6 boss straight for 18 min.

@clawtooth35

Жыл бұрын

@@zannibalable final fantasy 11 had a boss that took literal hours when it was first released (pandemonium warden) - the first kill of which lasted about 2 hours, and that was after it was nerfed. This was because a previous attempt with no time limit lasted 18 constant hours which was ended because the players actually started to get physically ill.

@zannibalable

Жыл бұрын

@@clawtooth35 let me correct then " the longest LEGIT fight in all mmo history" because the boss has been fixed many times to make it doable by humans... If we are talking about a legit fight, dsr is still the longest otherwise anybody can make a fight, put an immune on a boss and let the players progress on it for hours / days, to claim afterwards " hehe my boss is still alive"

@flipnskater

Жыл бұрын

@@clawtooth35 yeah that was a broken ass boss lol

since your first ff14 video is over a year old. where is the new player reacting ?

I dont know how you remember all this. Addons most likely. Xenosys and Arthas both said all ultimate players use everything at their disposal to the advantage incl cheating :/

@QuasarManiac

Жыл бұрын

It's just repetition. Between visual cues and the stress of knowing that a single mistake can reset all of your progress over the course of 100+ hours, you tend to eventually learn everything. I'd like to know where you heard that all Ult players cheat because that just isn't true

@manacharge

Жыл бұрын

That's very untrue. It all comes down to pattern recognition, repetition, and determination. I was the dancer in the video--we spent months learning each phase mechanic-by-mechanic and memorizing how it all worked. I have my own pov of this and other ultimates on my channel proving that no cheats were used.

@ChandaniAranka

Жыл бұрын

@@manacharge sadly thanks to add-ons are proven to be in the game, unless players show it while all on PlayStation, I will never be able to shake the feeling if you have used add-ons or not. Do not blame me, blame the add-on creators and developers of FFXIV for not policing their own tos more strictly. As you might not use add-on on your stream, but you could have gotten an advantage from add-ons and then turn them off to prove you've done it. Or someone else in your party is using it to guide you. This is why I want add-ons to be eradicated from the game if that means installing a software in my game scans for these things, so be it. Add-ons ruins everything it touches

@manacharge

Жыл бұрын

@@ChandaniAranka "guilty until proven innocent" is a hell of a way to discount the accomplishments of others.

@Ekoyuhale

Жыл бұрын

@@manachargeto be honest, addon usage is so rampant, that that is really the only approach to take. All we can do is continue our anti addon stance and know that our achievements are our own. Our streams throughout the entirety of our prog well evidence the lack of addons to anyone that cares to look. I will defend myself accused of it because yes, I aggressively hate and decry addon use, but their comment was more general (and tbh none of us would have seen it normally, this isn’t my video lol)