NEW Morgan Plus Four vs Morgan Plus Six Review - Which would I buy ? [Part 1 of 2]
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I have finally made it to the Morgan Motor Company to be able to drive the Morgan Plus Four back to back with the Morgan Plus Six. These could well be the perfect Sunday car but the big question is which one would I buy ? In this first of a two part video series I drive the Plus Four. Powered by a 2 litre turbocharged four cylinder engine that produces 255 horsepower, this stunning modern classic delivers a pure driving experience.
Famous the world over for its unique blend of craft, heritage and pure driving experience, the Morgan Motor Company has been manufacturing quintessentially British vehicles in Malvern, UK, for more than 110 years.
Passed down through generations, the same craftsmanship skills that were integral during the founding of the Morgan Motor Company in 1909 are as alive today as they have ever been.
The company was established in 1909 by H.F.S Morgan with the design of the now iconic Morgan Three Wheeler. This was followed, in 1936, by the Morgan 4-4, based on the Morgan steel chassis. This chassis was produced until 2020, making it the longest running production car architecture in the world.
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Having owned a Westfield 7 (not quite as refined as the Morgan!) all I can say about these sort of cars is that it’s not about the times or acceleration or comparisons, it’s about the experience. You can put a bunch of REAL petrolheads in 30 mph go-karts and they’ll have the time of their lives because the sensation is just fantastic. These type of cars are road going equivalents. You feel like you’re flying and speed, timings or 0-60 comparisons don’t matter… you just grin from start to finish 👏👏👏
@bertiewooster3326
2 жыл бұрын
Yep my 1974 MGBGTV8 still impresses any passenger I carry it gets there fast without fuss a real wolf in sheep's clothing
Great review of the + 4. You captured the essence of why we all love driving a car that thoroughly connects you with the road and your surroundings. The beautiful English countryside made me long for another trip to your island from my flat (but warm) Florida home. Sadly, the inevitable move to electrification will make these kind of drives rare events in the future.
I loved my visit to Morgan and love the engineering involved, seeing the metamorphosis of the emerging car as you move around the factory. The place is from an era of pride in the skill of the individual artisans who build with their hands, rather than the mass production of the modern idiom. Brilliant.
Loved going up to the factory. The last time was late 2018 to see my +4 being made, it was waiting outside ready to go into the leather shop. You could talk to any of the craftsman, one of them even gave me a marker pen to sign and date the ash frame before it went into the trim shop.😊
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Cool 😎
There’s something very special indeed about these beautifully engineered cars👌❤️. Absolutely loved this video Peter, and this took me back many years, and brought a huge smile to my face. Thank you for sharing 👍
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure. It was a special day for sure 👍
Great to see that Morgan still produce these handmade gems that look like they've not been designed by computer (although they probably have). Looking forward to the hairy chested version! 👍
@garymason7
2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling they still use original jigs for moulding the panels. We might find out 👍🏼
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
They do indeed. I’ll put a nice story in the next vid 👍
Great video and great to see a British made car being featured. The smile on your face says it all.
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes 🙌
Super proud to have started working for this company. If you love the smell of wood and seeing true British manufacturing at its best.... then I can honestly say, you will not be disappointed. Super friendly staff that will answer any of your questions as you watch them bring together this amazing car....As you go through the factory, you'll watch everything from the engine being introduced, the wood ash frame being hand built, the aluminium structure being hand crafted, the leather seats and embroidery being created by hand.... Really does make you feel proud to be British.. Sorry, slightly biased.... :)
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats 👍
You are the luckiest man on the planet! I can remember the first time I saw a Morgan when I was quite young. I lived in the US and had never seen one before let have ever heard the name before. . And I was amazed because it had a leather 'belt' across the hood (bonnet) and It was love at first sight. They also have a new very sleek and modern model but the original look is simply full of nostalgia and class. I wish I could afford to buy one but that doesn't dim my admiration for this marvelous machine. If I ever had the chance to get behind the wheel as you've done, I'll bet I'd wet my pants before I got out of first gear! Thanks for the treat.
Had a day at the factory many years ago. Steve (MD) even bought us lunch. Burbled around the place in V8s and three wheelers, was a lovely day. Somebody else has probably already said this, but BMW have been providing engines to Morgan for years. Admittedly the 4 pots are quite recent though.
My retirement dream car. Visited the factory many years ago and just loved the hand built nature of the cars, no two cars are the same, each panel is bespoke. Great video Pedro.
Evening All , Friday night already !!
Thanks so much for these two videos on the Morgan’s! One of my dream cars to own….love your channel and the way you review😎👍🇦🇺🇬🇧🏁
Lovely little slice of of the heritage meeting the 21st century, Morgan’s always get the thumbs up from passers by , as you say , it’s a friendly car .
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Sure is 👍
Just a great review of these cars and the driving experince. As shocked as you are that the Plus 6 came out on top. But as the saying goes "This is why they play the game" Look forward to exploring your channel.
@PetrolPed
7 ай бұрын
Enjoy 👌
Great car, I used to have the old Alfa Romeo Spider, had the same feeling but I a, talking right back in the 70’s! Thanks for another great presentation.
Very nice review. Just bought a brand-new PlusFour myself as a "replacement" for my 33 years old 4/4-4 seater (which stays nevertheless), but what a different world compared to the old 4/4. Enough power for me, manual gearbox, far more better chassis and handling than the old traditional. I especially like the classic looks of the PlusFour, rather than the more aggressive appearance of the PlusSix, which is overpowered for me!
@PetrolPed
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
Those are some fantastic looking cars Sir Pete!!! The one man one chassis is crazy to me but so cool. The craftsmanship involved gives a huge amount of respect desire and just wow factor to these cars. Those old wire wheel designs are amazing. That blue color was very pretty in the sunlight. Can’t wait for video 2! Thank u for sharing this with us Sir Pete!
Beautiful, hand built machines. Keeping those original looks with modern running gear definitely the right thing to do 👍. Looking forward to the plus 6 vid Pete
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Mark 👍
I’ve been enjoying your videos but this one made me click subscribe. I’m a Porsche guy but, I want a Morgan. If I didn’t have two kids in university… Your smile says it all.
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Sub and welcome to the channel 👍
'It's a real driving experience' but I haven't driven it yet. Sounds like an unbiased review to me.
Great video. I go to Morgan quite often for events and it's a great place. The factory tour is well worth it. Plus 4 manual in a dark metallic green, with cream interior and heated seats would suit me fine.
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Nice choice 👌
Aw my roads I take on my rides out 😎 love the Morgan's looking forward to the next video
Beautiful car and I think the word "enjoyment" fits is perfectly.
I borrowed one of these for 24 hours: it was brilliant! One of those cars that is quick, but not too quick and great fun to drive at normal road speeds. It also makes you feel like a mix between Bulldog Drummond and Nigel Havers; like there is an adventure and a pretty girl just around the next corner...
Another enjoyable upload well done look forward to the next one 👍👍
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
Thanks Pedro, I didn't know too much about these Morgans before this video, very enlightening and certainly something to bear in mind for the future, should the opportunity present itself. Great vid. :)
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan 👍
Epic drive Pete!
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
Awesome review and what a motor would deffo be on my 10 car garage list ,,.. that or the 3 wheeler! Can imagine the smiles per gallon from that are amazing
Just recently been in the factor tour, Pete. Excellent day. The new super 3 is really growing on me! It’s funny you fit well at 6”3, my dad had real visibility issues at the same height..eye line on the vanity mirror! Video only at 480p?!
I’m pleased you get Morgan’s Peter, it’s all about fun, smiles per mile!
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes 🙌
The Ped grin was there from the minute you sat in it and said this is great! The video brought to life a dismal winters day, your commentary complimented the car beautifully. For me, the Plus 4 manual would be the car for me😎 Morgan under new ownership have managed to keep all of the heritage, but married it to a superb BMW powertrain. Last thought, always hood down, that’s what Barbour and Belstaff jackets are made for 👍🇬🇧😎
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes 👍
Thanks Ped looking forwards to the plus 6 vid now
Did the factory tour and open day a few years back and loved it, what a special place. The roads weren't bad either.
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Great roads 👌
Wuhey! A video to make you feel proud, with the backdrop of another two beauties in the car park. Although I myself would be tempted to waft off in the Rolls.
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
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Evening all, another great video PP. Can see you and Mrs PP driving through the countryside on your way for a lunch out! Great cars great factory!
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
So can I 😂
Great review Pete. Did the factory tour a few years ago and loved it. I need to go back... Like the Plus 4, we'll see how the 6 is...
Kid in a sweet shop springs to mind.Lovely car.👍
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes 🙌
Great film there Peter. Such craftsmanship. Did a factory tour back in 2018. An excellent day out and well worth it.
you have good taste. I live in the states, and would love to cruise in those cars. good work.
@PetrolPed
Жыл бұрын
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Evening all! Hope everyone has had a good week.
@Dr_MattS
2 жыл бұрын
And the very same to you and yours too 😃
What a gorgeous car! Thanks for a great drive. I wish I could stop by and order one. (That would be a bit difficult for me being in Oregon, USA.) Question: What exactly is that popping when in sport mode? I know some cars pop like that when downshifting, but that one seems to pop randomly. Any ideas?
Absolutely fantastic video, such a classic looking car and one of the reasons they put the Great in Great Britain. Just love them.
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks David 👍
Long may this beautiful British car continue to be built as it is!
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed 👍
Great review. Thanks for sharing
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure 👍
Great review Ped. Cracking little car.
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks John 👍
As always, a great video 👍😊
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏🏻
This is ace Pete , I Love these so much .. Your face says it all !! I'm watching episode 2 now👍👍😁😁
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Great 👍
Very nice, my parents have owned two the last being a +8 but speaking to my dad his preference was the less powerful version as he could use all of its performance he found the +8 a bit intimidating. So your point is valid, I think its a different story with a Caterham as, like you, I was happy with 145 bhp but the handling suggested a bit more power could be fun.
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Yep I can get that 👍
I waited seven years for my first Morgan. The ACTUAL waiting list (at Allon White) was 21 years! But they relied on two out of three customers dropping out.
I have a friend from way back in school days who lives on the edge of the Malvern hills and you can see why they still make those cars 😊
Its amazing that you say that the ride quality is good, Morgans used to have bone hard suspension. I can remember the days of the 5 year waiting list and knew someone who always ordered another car each time he collected a new one. ( I like the way you have done the edit as I am familiar with all those roads!)
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
That will be the new chassis and suspension set up of the CX model 👍
A car I've always been interested in owning maybe one day i will part ex the f type. Look forward to the +6 vid.
No surprise your face was carrying a fixed grin, I’ve owned 6 Morgan’s and love them. To be fair this was a very balanced opinion video, good to see. My friend who’s also had a few mogs, recently bought an auto plus 4 which he reckons is better than the manual, it’s certainly quicker on acceleration. Hope you were careful with the plus 6, lots of new owners have ended up going through a hedge backwards because of the power. When I test drove it I was like a midlife, very delicate touch. I’ll stick with my 98 plus 8 4.6, can’t just justify 60 oddgrand for a toy. Looking forward to seeing the plus 6 video.
Evening everyone. The cars look amazing
Lucky PED again and yes very special car and temptation to buy second car .. Thanks 👍
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
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Cor that would have looked great in 4K 😁 Loved that Pete. Exactly my sort of car. Classic design combined with modern materials and tech. Go on, get one and let subscribers design it haha!
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Need more views first 👍
Nice Ride on the Plus Four. Wait till you test drive the Plus Six!
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
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Best video in ages. Wow
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
Nice cars. Looks like a fun drive.
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Sure was 👍
Great Vid Good to see historic named manufactured vehicles, produced here ! love the use of the wood and ash especially, being a carpenter myself! but i would want a little more saw dust than 250 BHP, but not a deal breaker , look forward to the bigger brother video !
when l was at the Morgan factory about 6 years ago the guy was on about the limitless interior options and a quote that l will never forget. Morgan is the only car manufacturer in the world that can take real wood and make it look like plastic
I was there in the summer , we stayed the night near there on the way down to Cornwall . Even the mrs enjoyed looking around , the cars are beautiful Definitely a plus 6 for me or maybe a second hand plus 8 👍🏻
Great video, I love my +8, but am worried that Morgan are starting to price themselves out of the market.
I think you should be unlocking the purse strings…. It is obvious that you both would enjoy such an iconic brand as a forever ICE sports car….looking forward to the plus 6 to see which direction!
Great review 👍
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏🏻
No disguising that joy! 😁 Sadly lacking from most driving experiences nowadays.
@PetrolPed
2 ай бұрын
So true!
Nice "documentary" on the Morgan. Richard Hammond would love this 😀
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
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A mate of mine has an 1983 Morgan and he loves it. He brings it into work during the summer and for an old girl, it looks fantastic. I wonder if Mrs McVitie would consider a Morgan if she decides to trade in the Abarth 124…… “oh, darling……???” 😆
Wonderful, so tempted to get a manual plus 4.
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
😬👍
Hahaha! You really enjoyed yourself!! Stunning car!
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes 🙌
They had BMW engines in the older Aero 8 series of cars as well. I did the tour there 2 years ago and I've got a piece of the ash wheel arch framed in my living room.
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Yep. They sure did 👍
@LiqdPT
2 жыл бұрын
@@PetrolPed after touring the factory in 2019, when I came home to the US I looked into buying an Aero Super Sport. They're rediculously expensive here (at the time they were selling for $250k when they were about half of that in Europe). There are only about 30 or so in the US (all early production) and because of the US import laws its not easy to bring one in (or else I'd have imported a 2015 from somewhere)
Morgan for ever. Lovely video. Wish I could afford one. ❤
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Me too 😂
Great video Pete it suits you 👍
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Even Mrs PP liked it 😬😜
Plus Four, very nice. Bring on the Plus Six!
A very special car and one which, as you say, when you factor in the very low depreciation, suddenly becomes an affordable head turner for those ‘special’ days out/weekends away…. I can see one of these arriving in your garage any day now! Lol 😆
I want both of them!
Wow, yes. I didn’t know it until i saw it but I think you did reviewing the plus 4 great justice, just loved the film. I remember my uncle tony had a plus 8 with the 3.5 litre rover v8 - oh the burble of that! My dad had the chance to buy an order a few years later - he decided against it in the end as he’s crap at treating himself. He regrets it to this day - I’d better not show him this!
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate 👍
Very enjoyable film Ped. Would love a Morgan, they are beautiful. Will watch the Plus 6 one tomorrow. Since it has a Mini engine in it would be rude not to have a few pops and bangs 🙂
Great review! Anyone knows if this plus 4 in particular comes with sport exhaust from factory? It has a really nice sound
Another enjoyable watch. Not a car I would consider for myself but that would maybe change if I ever had the experience of driving one personally. I have a friend who's father in law lets him drive his and he raves about it and he is in his early 20's. I will maybe hold my final opinion until I see and hear your thoughts on the more powerful one.
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
It was an unexpected conclusion 😜😂
A quality product and nicely filmed Ped do they still make the Aero 8 always liked them in black.👍
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
No. I don’t think so 👎
First place i would go to if i had some money land in my account. I would give anything to go there and pick my car and everything that goes in it. They are beautiful
5.11 / 19.18 your amazing video shows a different PlusFour model... looks like the a trunk in the back and a kind of hardtop.... do you have any info about that?
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Check out the Morgan website 👍
When I lived in London in the late 70's I wanted to buy a Morgan. The deposit was a bit of an issue but it was the wait and unfortunately the Canadian Safety laws that prevented me from acquiring one. Still Like them. Own an '81 Porsche 911 now. Fab!
Well worth visiting the factory for a tour. Great day out.
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Sure is 👍
That was fantastic.Who doesn't love a Morgan.Great vid,can't wait for the next one.One thing crossed my mind while watching,how are Morgan going to handle the switch to EV? I hope that they can do it and retain the character of their cars.Oh for a lottery win!
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
They did an electric 3 wheeler a couple of years ago. Never made production but it was awesome 👏
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Oh and the new CX platform has EV in mind 👍
Evening pal, I like the look of Spoke wheels, just wouldn’t want to clean them.
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly 😳
Morgan, just about the only ICE-age car that I could imaging in my garage!
I'm glad to hear the new Plus 4 you are driving can accommodate a 6ft 3 you. :) Unfortunately for me my fiends year 2000 " I think " Rover engine must of had less room. :(
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
The new CX platform was designed to take a larger driver 👍
Iconic is the only word for the Morgan.... :-))
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Yep 👍
Looks great and your enthusiasm is infectious but..... its not everyday practical luggage wise and for that money you can get into a nice second hand 911 cab. Sadly I'm not rich enough to afford both.
Fascinated by the RR in the car park
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Lovely wasn’t it 😜
It is my dream car!
Great video Peter, I don’t think you stop smiling all the way through driving that car. So I guess you will be turning up in about four months.😆😆😆
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
I wish 😢
Enjoyed.
Always thought the plus 4 was the four seater. Well confused now. Great Car and great Review
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
I think it used to be. Now I think it 4 cylinder 👍
@Yorkshiremadmick
2 жыл бұрын
@@PetrolPed Thought I was going mad Lol 😂
@colincruickshank9425
2 жыл бұрын
@@Yorkshiremadmick The +4 was available as a two seater and a four seater. They no longer make 4 seaters as they had problems with safety regulations.
Great company and a great open top British Sports car👍
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
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I'd love a Morgan Plus 4, I also wouldn't mind a go in the 3 wheeler, they look like fun but not sure i could buy one. That said i can't aford the plus for so i'll just stick to smilling when i see one drive by.
This really suits you! And unlike a super car, this can be exploited on British roads, and it's still special, and at the high end of bespoke.
@PetrolPed
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed 👍
@nigel.w
2 жыл бұрын
@@PetrolPed Thanks, Ped. Just to state the obvious, if you did want a bit more poke, I'm sure this BMW I4 engine can be tuned to deliver whatever performance you think you need, and beyond. I'd just make sure to try one in the dry on roads you know, before deciding whether it's too slow. I think the idea is to be able to enjoy revving it to the max, rather than being frustrated that you can't even rev it to the max in second, as in a modern supercar. Seems to me that you may want a custom tune to deliver more torque lower down while still being able to put the power down without problems, while still being able to rev it out in second and third without putting your licence in too much danger. Anyway, best of luck with everything!