Just when did 30k for a small car become affordable?

@trader548

Ай бұрын

Yeah it's crazy. Affordable car costs about the same as the median annual wage in the UK.

I suspect the real world range on a winter's day would be around 150 miles once the heater is on, which, in my opinion, is way too low. It's not really a long-range crusier.

@joehampson2527

Ай бұрын

To be fair, a Mini Hatch is never going to be an ideal long range cruiser. I know someone who has the old Mini E with 120ish miles range and she happily uses it to visit family who live 200 miles away. It's not the ideal car for that, but it's doable.

The old interior was far better in my opinion. They have just tried to reduce production costs with this interior.

@masonandmotors

Ай бұрын

Actually this interior has much more in common with and looks more like original Mini. Simple and functional.

@VSS1

Ай бұрын

@@masonandmotors unfortunately it's not priced as the original simple cheap mini

@jamesbaggaley1460

18 күн бұрын

@@masonandmotorsNot really. Taking way buttons and accessing all functions through a touch screen isn’t functional, it’s distracting.

@masonandmotors

18 күн бұрын

@@jamesbaggaley1460 It is more similar though than the previous models... I've had a few.

I'm sorry but £30k for a electric mini is still way to expensive for most folk. 5 years ago a basic golf was £20k better built and 50% larger.

@Nick-ct1ww

Ай бұрын

sorry £32k!! with level 1 pack

@jonathantaylor1998

Ай бұрын

5 years ago a LOT of cars were way cheaper...! Looking on Autotrader, to get similar performance to this MINI Cooper E, you'd be looking at the Polo 2.0TSi GTi DSG 5dr. After discounts, that's £27,240...! So, yes, ALL cars - irrespective of what powers them - have rocketed up in price over recent years... the days of a cheap 'hot-hatch' are long gone, sadly...

@VSS1

Ай бұрын

They're taking advantage of the tax breaks company car drivers get, so they just pump up the price to make some more profit.

@AlanTov

Ай бұрын

£20k for a quality fast car. Good luck with that!

I like the direction BMW have gone with the new model - the cleaned up styling is a big improvement over the increasingly fraught surfacing of the previous gen. I also like that the 5 door has been deleted - it always looked awful to me. Conceptually, the interior is simpler but some design choices like having a toggle switch for 'experiences' rather than something useful like cabin temperature seems crass. Some of the interior materials and mouldings look cheap to. It's a shame then that the simpler design approach hasn't really paid off on the price as it's expensive for a small car with small battery & a small range that's made in China. £25K feels more right and so it will be interesting to see how it fares against cars like the Renault 5 when that hits the showrooms.

No short cut to inhibit speed sign recognition and lane departure warning - yes there is. Go to Driver Assistance in the vehicle settings, safety and warnings click and hold the lane departure warning icon and you get a pop up asking if you want to make a short cut. Then go into the Driving section and go to speed limit exceeded and do the same to create a short cut. Once the short cuts are created you have direct access to them from the key on the oblong key pad showing a car with 3 horizontal line - tap the favourites key and you big screen shows all the short cuts. Yes I agree it’s a convoluted way to get to the functions to inhibit them - some cars now have a dedicated button on the dash now to disable both functions pity BMW has gone down the switch and buttonless dash route though. I’ve had my Counttyman S E with exactly the same system since the first week of April and it’s now first thing I do after turning on the power “key” thingy

£5K more gets you a Tesla Model 3, 68 miles more range than the Cooper SE, and a second faster to 60 mph, more space and access to the Tesla super charger network....

@toyotaprius79

Ай бұрын

That kind of arms race mentality is exact why we don't get genuine affordable alternatives away from Premium vehicles like Tesla Think!

@richard7071

Ай бұрын

And yet I’m not even slightly tempted by that.

@trevorsmith8487

Ай бұрын

But, a Tesla, really? Looks like a more old fashioned sierra

Hmm so slower than the older model, and range is only a bit more as outgoing gave more than claimed 120 where this is much lower 140 - and that back end is erm ugly and nothing like mini styling. Renault 5 seems a better option on face of it

@richard7071

Ай бұрын

The SE is rated as 250miles range

@Dreador.

Ай бұрын

@@richard7071 In the review it was stated real world was more like 140 in lower sized battery… Matched by EV Database But let’s say its closer to rated I’m not sure a city car should be chasing range. I get many struggle with concept of perceived low range but 100 miles is plenty for a ‘city car’ average drive for most (not all most) people is 35 miles Old version 1440kg new low range version 1615kg is the other consequence, two passengers worth of added weight

@richard7071

Ай бұрын

@@Dreador. my point was that anyone phased by the range of the E could always lash out and buy the SE. I often drive from Sydney to Canberra (325km) so the extra range counts. Realistically, if you want to follow the advice about not charging beyond 80% and aren’t foolhardy enough to go below 10%, realistic range is about 70% of what you could get driving from 100% to 0%. That makes 400km more like 280km and then subtract a bit from that for adverse conditions/freeway driving and it’s probably closer to 220km - but that’s the maximum I’d do in 2 hours driving and I’ll usually stop for half an hour anyway after 2 hours driving - so the SE makes sense over the E.

@Dreador.

Ай бұрын

@@richard7071 If I was doing that mileage I’d be looking at a different car to be fair :) If Im going on a long run I regularly charge to 100% at home if I’m going to use it straight away as such - 80% for me is the rule more for rapid charging and that’s more around time more than anything.

@richard7071

Ай бұрын

@@Dreador. that’s about once every 6-8 weeks. For the majority of the time I do less than 100km per day.

Looks goot! Only small ev I would consider, am booked in for a test drive...

Good video... The audio levels jumped about a bit though.

I was quite excited about this car until I saw the dinner plate on the dash

Is it better than the previous electric? The interior seemed so bland without chrome toggle switches, and upholstery do not have the leather options.

The slight 🐘 in the room, is the fact that this is a GWM Ora 03 underneath, indeed they are built in the same factory in China.....

@mach1nefan

Ай бұрын

It’s not an Ora underneath. But you’re right about it being built in China, though in 2026 it’ll be built in Britain.

@richard7071

Ай бұрын

BMW say it is unrelated to the Ora.

Test drove the SE a few weeks back. Looked cool as Sport pack with JCW parts on it. But a touch too much po-go'ing ride, too much torque steer, (some people say it's "fun", but i don't see it that way) not very efficient so real world range was poor overall and yes way too expensive for what you get. Just not good enough unless they discount++

No, I don't like that. It's too smooth, or flush looking at the front, and that rear looks unbalanced

Wait the 0-60 time is over 6 seconds long? How is it even possible for an all electric car to be that slow?

I would love it in petrol automatic

As a Mini enthusiast (original and new) I like what they've done. Especially making the interior more like original Mini. I'm not sure I'll ever get on board with the rear light clusters though. They don't match the rest of the car. On a side note, I don't think the video has been colour graded properly. It's very over exposed and blown out.

Much needed update for the Mini, just love it, but it's still like go-kart drive 😊❤

Not sure why you wouldn't buy a Smart #1 instead, more space, more range, more equipment as standard, faster charging, better performance and rear wheel drive. Plus 4 doors not 2.

Do any of these companies listen to what drivers actually want anymore. No instrument binnacle. A plastic HUD. A great big round touchpad. Strange front end styling and 140 miles range. Yep. That’s do and we shall charge you £30 to remove the things you like 😅

Affordable? Are people so far out of touch with the way things are at the moment?

15-20K will be 'affordable' not a 30k mini. Silly CarGurus.

Stunning and brave

£30k for that is a bit s**t. You are as in touch with reality as Rishi Sunak.

A claimed range of 190 miles means 100 miles in reality at best in sunny weather and downhill. A cold winter day in Sweden with minus 15° celsius means a careful slow trip to the grocery store and back, - if you are lucky. The 240 mile version just mean that you can run out of electricity with a faster acceleration! 😂. This is ONLY for use within a city.

ACEMAN not Paceman

Got to say looks more like a Suzuki swift than a Mini.

Video editing - overexposed !!

Thays about £10000 too expensive still ..when will manufacturers understand not every one earns mega bucks and to buy a car like this is way out of most people's range

WTF IS THIS?! WHERE IS MINI?

The design looks horrible. The old design was a classic.

Looks bloody awful.

£30k affordable? for a puddle jumper with a winter range of around 120 miles. No Thanks.

Awful exposure on this video

why don't you mention where this is built don't you think viewers want to know that the car is built in China. its also not cheap, not good-looking and that dash well, won't be getting my money

Less mini more ora 3 and built in China. Way too expensive when you think of the original motivation behind the original mini.

Awful interior and an EV MINI has sold itself

More crap, no thanks stick the rubbish

£30k…….affordable…….what have you been sniffing Vikki?! Kinda makes me feel like there are a lot of back handers going on when tut like this tumbles out of reviewers mouths.

@jonathantaylor1998

Ай бұрын

Someone above was also bemoaning the cost of this revised MINI Cooper E - but nostalgia is exactly that... Looking on Autotrader, to get similar performance to this MINI Cooper E, you'd be looking at the Polo 2.0TSi GTi DSG 5dr. After discounts, that's £27,240...! So, yes, ALL cars - irrespective of what powers them - have rocketed up in price over recent years... the days of a cheap 'hot-hatch' are long gone, sadly...

@santostv.

Ай бұрын

30k today is the same as 15k a few years ago, mini is owned by bmw so you also need to pay the “ bmw tax”😂

@Nexus6Variant

Ай бұрын

@@jonathantaylor1998 The petrol version is £23k which is still steep but ok and at least made in the UK, this Chinese made EV is pure post pandemic profiteering regardless of what you say, expect to see them pre registered and heavily discounted on autotrader in a few months.

@Nexus6Variant

Ай бұрын

⁠@@santostv.I owned a 2004 Cooper £14996, a 2007 Cooper S £17669, a 2015 Cooper S £19756, and a 2018 Cooper £19874 so I’m well aware of their pricing structure, this is a GWM built Chinese cost cutting exercise with no slush formed plastics or real depth of quality and it’s over £30k…….come on.

@santostv.

Ай бұрын

@@Nexus6Variant They can´t devalue their brand, simple as that, the smart #1 is also chinese based and isn´t that cheap, the chinese want to enter the market and do blitzscalling can´t afford it so they are doing what they did in china by partnering up for their ´smaller´brands. We will see if the french offerings are indeed good.

Posh, Overpriced, Oversized