Personally I dislike most of Milwaukees screwdriver handles across the board, Klein and many other brands just feel nicer in my hand. If I’m using a dedicated screwdriver it’s usually not just for one screw and done so comfortability to me outweighs any special features.

@MORGANSMaintenance

Жыл бұрын

I agree, I will likely give these to an electrician friend of mine.

We have the pozi/slotted combination drivers in the UK for electrical systems. I have only ever seen them as insulated drivers though, never as a standard driver or even 1.4 hex bits that I can remember. Cheers for the video. 👍👍

@MORGANSMaintenance

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t know there was pozi combinations… I had wondered if you all had something similar. Stefan said the same thing.. They have insulated versions as well, but I have only seen a Milwaukee one. You would think more people would get in the game with these.

this is a fantastic product review. thanks for taking the time to put it together. A nice set of ECX screwdrivers have been on my shopping list for a while but it's been difficult/expensive to find them in CanaDUH.

@MORGANSMaintenance

Жыл бұрын

Yeah there aren’t many options out there… the bits work most of the time and are a good option.

@Caniksigboy

10 ай бұрын

Milwaukee hand tools are trash,

I like the ECX bits… I have the Milwaukee Insulated set (#2, 1/4”,ECX 1) they have very nice over molded rubber all the way around. $22 at HD. I bought the set for the ECX. But really not a bad second bag set.

@MORGANSMaintenance

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I have bought a couple of those sets just to get the ECX… it’s a good price for some insulated screwdrivers, and there aren’t a lot of insulated ECX out there.

My local Home Depot just started carrying the made in the USA standard screwdriver 4 pack ($45) on the shelves. I Didn't notice if the USA lettering was in white or if the shanks were hexed! You could always get a white marker and color the USA letters in yourself. Heck, get a blue marker and make it custom and patriotic! 🇺🇲🎉👍

@MORGANSMaintenance

11 ай бұрын

Mine hasn’t got them yet in store. Very true.. could even do a mix 👍

The knurling and the COO are the only things I like about the new Milwaukee screwdrivers . I plan to try a pair of their dipped handle pliers just to throw a little support at their American manufacturing effort, but I'm not really a Milwaukee guy.

@MORGANSMaintenance

Жыл бұрын

Some of their new pliers look nice… I might also get some to try once I can get them somewhere that I don’t have to spend $99 or more to get free shipping. Going to be hard for them to beat Knipex for me though.

Wera makes insulated ecx screwdrivers, their version is PH/S1 AND PH/S2

@MORGANSMaintenance

2 ай бұрын

I bought one, but it’s more a Phillips/slotted combo where the Milwaukee and Klein are a square/phillips combo. At least the WERA one I bought was. I think I showed it in a tool haul video.

@gtbr8134

2 ай бұрын

@@MORGANSMaintenance I bought one as well, seems inferior to Robertson or flat blade

Been almost exclusively a Klein guy with screwdrivers for 25 years, but lately I've been changing it up a little. There's a buzz the last couple years that Klein's tips are soft and break down/round off more easily now...and I actually HAVE noticed this first hand in the field, especially their Philips. There are still very few grips like a Klein, but they don't seem like the cadillacs they used to be. Picked up some Milwaukee insulateds last year and they aren't half bad, and the ECX is a nice tool. Use it A LOT. Milwaukee needs a set though with shaft-flush insulation, and handles aren't that great. Actually picked up a set of DeWalt's tough series and honestly they're pretty sweet...really nice handles, holding up great, demo drivers too. Great stuff as always...superb channel!!

@MORGANSMaintenance

Жыл бұрын

I picked up some Dewalt screwdrivers awhile back that look very similar to Klein but haven’t tried their tough series. I do have the Dewalt demo driver with the Yellow Acrylicish handle. It is what I use and I like it so far. I probably used Klein exclusively for about 10 years, they don’t seem like what they used to be… they aren’t bad, but not the same. Thanks for the info and the encouragement 👍👍

I personally have been using the Wiha xeno drivers for several years. I’ve tried to like Milwaukee hand tools, but have been burnt both times. Their warranty is crap. Anyways great video 👍

@MORGANSMaintenance

Жыл бұрын

👍… I have never used a warranty on hardly anything. Most the time it’s too time consuming to me. So with any tool that has that as a big selling feature, I usually don’t even factor that in my buying decision process.

At 4:52 into the video timeline, you show a driver/bit holder that ECX bits will fit into. Can you please post a link to that driver? Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

@MORGANSMaintenance

9 ай бұрын

It’s a Dewalt locking bit holder amzn.to/45NFWpt It will hold any regular bit

@s.mendez7160

9 ай бұрын

@@MORGANSMaintenance Really appreciate your response, thank you!

@MORGANSMaintenance

9 ай бұрын

@@s.mendez7160 👍👍

@s.mendez7160

9 ай бұрын

Really appreciate your response, thanks again! @@MORGANSMaintenance

What would your pick be between the Klein, Milwaukee and the Wera PH/S. I used to have the Klein Power bit 4 inch, but they don't make those anymore.

@MORGANSMaintenance

8 ай бұрын

Are you talking about the combo bits… or just a Phillips and Slotted screwdriver? On just screwdrivers, I prefer the WERA with the laser etched bit… but their handles are love or hate, and a little lightweight (I prefer a heavier handle) Milwaukee has something similar on theirs now, but I just am not a fan of their handles. Klein in their regular screwdrivers have always been good in my opinion. So my personal preference is WERA, Klein, and then Milwaukee.. only because Milwaukees handles. However I’m currently using Vessel Tang Thru Phillips and slotted, they are my favorite. Magnetic tip, love the handles for grip and weight. kzread.info/dash/bejne/kYeO0bKBfaq-faw.html For the Combo bits, I don’t think WERA has any.. if they do I’d like to get some. I prefer Kleins handles over Milwaukee’s, but I typically use the Milwaukee ECX bits in a magnetic bit holder in a Vessel Screwdriver.

@tombarnese5559

8 ай бұрын

The ones I was curious about are hard to find info on, they are sometimes called Wera PH/S, and sometimes called Wera plusminus.

@MORGANSMaintenance

8 ай бұрын

@@tombarnese5559 I will have to see if I can find those, I haven’t seen them 👍

@MORGANSMaintenance

8 ай бұрын

@@tombarnese5559 I didn’t know those were a thing… and insulated. I just ordered some. Appreciate you bringing those to my attention 👍

I have the insulated ECX set. And its great if im just using them for the 2 screws i ever encounter with that cut, and i dont need them insulated. Nice screwdrivers, but i dont think theyre special just because theyre red.

@MORGANSMaintenance

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, these are nothing to be excited about in my opinion. There aren’t many options for ECX/Combination screwdrivers… so it’s good to have another option I guess 🤷‍♂️

@KiltPatrick

Жыл бұрын

@@MORGANSMaintenance They're pretty nice Screwdrivers, and i like them for when I get to use them. But if it's not a receptacle or an EMT coupling, they're niche.

@MORGANSMaintenance

Жыл бұрын

@@KiltPatrick I’ve had the insulated set you have… that’s a better deal and price. 👍

I really don't like these newer style ECX tips. When doing panel work, I stick with the Klein insulated flat head and square head. One reason is not all panels use the same style screws, but a flat and a square head work in all of them.

@MORGANSMaintenance

Жыл бұрын

I have insulated Square WERA’s that I use quite often… that’s normally what I keep in my main bag along with the ECX driver bits. That way if I run into the “driver bit won’t fit” I have been using the square. I only typically use these dedicated screwdrivers if I’m doing lots of receptacles, switches, etc. I know when that is going to be ahead of time, so I don’t carry these with me all the time since they aren’t useful for much else.

@mozzberg590

Жыл бұрын

@@MORGANSMaintenance man I'm stuck in the past. Flat and square heads do all the work. Less weight means easy carrying. Keep them coming

@MORGANSMaintenance

Жыл бұрын

@@mozzberg590 appreciate it… I mostly bought these just to check out these new screwdrivers and share with you all. I knew I wouldn’t use the Phillips or Slotted over my other screwdrivers. There aren’t a lot of ECX/Combination options is the only reason I tried these. I have the Kleins already (and prefer the handles)… I will probably pass these on to a younger Electrician friend of mine.

@mozzberg590

Жыл бұрын

@@MORGANSMaintenance that's what tradesmen do, help the next generation and give them the tools they need to do the job. Figuratively and literally

Number one the most usable. It's concerns all combination tips Klein milwaukee ideal vessel

@MORGANSMaintenance

11 ай бұрын

👍👍

Seems like if it’s only for electrical, they should be insulated.

@MORGANSMaintenance

11 ай бұрын

It is good to have some of these insulated, Especially when doing service work. If you are doing rough-in or installing a panel before power the screwdrivers can get beat up pretty good. So for some, It wouldn’t be worth the extra expense for insulated. There aren’t many options for these screwdrivers… and even less insulated. I agree with you and would like to see more.

@tinshum7412

6 ай бұрын

Milwaukee has an insulated version on the market, both ECX #1 and #2. There is few bucks more on each. For narrow spaces breakers , extra insulated skin may a bit difficult to get into deeper screws. It is give and take issue, depending on what you think.

I'm familiar with the combi but don't come across it in my field of work and never heard it called ECX so i was wondering where ECX comes from 🤔

@MORGANSMaintenance

Жыл бұрын

I’ve never really known if it is Electrical Connection, or Electrical Combination for the”EC”… but I have no idea what the “X” is for 😂

@iangregoryhome

Жыл бұрын

@@MORGANSMaintenance X extra expensive lol unlike another viewer from the UK I've only seen the Philips PH2 combi and that's on our 3 pin plugs.

@MORGANSMaintenance

Жыл бұрын

@@iangregoryhome 😂

I often carry the new Klein impact rated 11 in 1 .

@MORGANSMaintenance

Жыл бұрын

That is a good screwdriver…one of the better 11-1’s in my opinion 👍

@chrisfyfe9212

Жыл бұрын

@@MORGANSMaintenance Whia makes a very high quality rendition , I highly reccomend it . That said it doesn’t have all the capabilities of the impact rated 11 in 1 !

@MORGANSMaintenance

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisfyfe9212 👍

@chrisfyfe9212

Жыл бұрын

@@MORGANSMaintenance another worth a look , if only as a backup ; the Whia 26 in 1 , and it’s Stubby sidekick the 14 in 1 . Double ended 1/4” bits , lots of different bit assortments ( Security , Torox , Imp. and Metric Hex etc . ) , it can get ya outta a lot of jams ! That said , I use mine as a Back up system , rather than a primary .

@MORGANSMaintenance

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisfyfe9212 👍

I feel Milwaukee still has long ways to improve on their mistakes, BUT we all know they will only get far enough. In the mean time, wera is still the Lego of screwdrivers

@MORGANSMaintenance

Жыл бұрын

I’ve never been a fan of most of their hand tools. Their cutting pliers and strippers are ok… but screwdrivers and most wrenches, I don’t care for. The only hand tools of theirs I have bought they I prefer over other brands are the adjustable wrenches (what I call Cresent wrenches). They work extremely well….And their Ratchet and Socket Sets are really nice… but it could be because they are the best ones I have purchased, I haven’t bought/tried a lot of socket sets in my life.

@ProxyFinal

Жыл бұрын

@@MORGANSMaintenance in all honesty, trying to get the best stuff is not a good thing. You fall into the trap where you become a fan. Just get it when you need it. Things cost a lot and they add up quickly. Don’t overthink it either.

@MORGANSMaintenance

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I buy most things when I need them, and some things just cause I’m curious… then I buy some things because I share them with you all… I never buy anything I can’t use, but I’m a big “collector” of tools. I also give some out to people I work with/do work for me if I upgrade to something else. It’s like giving someone a bonus, it keeps them happier and working harder 😂

I got the #2 Phillips and the USA is also not white like yours.

@MORGANSMaintenance

Жыл бұрын

Weird how all the pictures have it 🤷‍♂️

It's both sad and funny when a Chinese company boosts its sales by playing on American patriotism. The more Milwaukee tools I see, the more I don't trust them. 15 years ago I bough used Milwaukee hex demo hammer. It was couple of years old and was made when Atlas Copco owned Milwaukee. That tool was a beast, worth the money, practically flawless. And for some time it was my perception of Milwaukee. Until TTI came. They like Apple - selling impressions rather thatn self-contained, finite product. In Europe counterpart to ECX is PZ/slotted hybrid. It's called PZ/S and goes in the same sizes as PZ. On our breakers (or in general electrical box fixtures - contactors, GFCIs, surge protectors, connectors etc.) screws are slotted the way you can use either PZ, slotted or PZ/S. The latter is the best for that purpose. The same applies to most of wire connecting screws on electrical outlets.

@MORGANSMaintenance

Жыл бұрын

I was curious if you all had something similar… I don’t run into PZ stuff but once in a blue moon. I think Klein does the same thing as Milwaukee on the USA stuff. I only started using Milwaukee a few years ago… so far they have been some of the best cordless tools I have used. (Compared to Dewalt, Ridgid, Bosch)… I haven’t used Makita. I don’t know if that speaks well for Milwaukee… or bad for Dewalt, Ridgid, Bosch 😂. Bosch tools were the better of those, just not a lot of tool options is why I switched.

@Stefan_Kawalec

Жыл бұрын

​@@MORGANSMaintenance I stopped using Bosch before cordless revolution, because at the turn of the century their tool quality had been constantly dropping. You know that Ridgid is a part of TTI as well. The original Ridgid (Ridge Tool Company) makes great plumbing tools and TTI makes power tools branded as Ridgid (there's a lot licence fiddling). The same applies to Ryobi. Japanese Ryobi (dark blue tool shells) is way better that TTI's electric green abomination. Couple of my friends using Milwaukee say the same thing - all is nice for the first 2 years, then it's like with Chinese ladies. From 20 to 55 they look the same and one day, overnight, they change into wizened grandma (I hope that does not offence anybody, because it's not my intention). Makita may not be the best, not be the cheapest, sometimes it's not even the most powerful, but overall I think it has a very decent price/quality ratio. Their tools are fairly simple allowing me to fix them myself. And I don't remember when I had some Makita malfunction, BTW. Provably I'd be less critical of Milwaukee if their prices were half of what they're now, thus conveying their quality much better :)

@Stefan_Kawalec

Жыл бұрын

@@MORGANSMaintenance As for DeWalt, I know a guy who worked 10 year at Stanley Black & Decker as a technical advisor. I've heard too much from him to have any illusions about the yellow tools.

@MORGANSMaintenance

Жыл бұрын

I haven’t liked much of the 20V stuff, at least what I have used. It’s what the company I worked for used. (I bought my own tools instead of using free ones if that tells you anything) I had the Dewalt 18V back before they changed, then I went to Bosch. The older 18v stuff was pretty good compared to the options at the time.

@Stefan_Kawalec

Жыл бұрын

​@@MORGANSMaintenance Well, it should give the manufactures some hints if people prefer spending money than using their free tools :) I hopped on Makita wagon in 2004 and it turned out to be a good decision. Bosch had it's ups and downs. Now they're fairly good. Here in Poland for a very long time their products were an epitome of the quality tools. And then at the end of the 90s something went wrong. To put things into perspective. TTI's revenue in 2021 was $13,2 billion, Bosch Power Tools in 2022 had 5.9 billion Euros (=$ more or less), Makita in 2020 had $5,8 billion (all numbers apply to global revenue if these companies). Given that Makita is the only independent, one brand tool company in the world that's pretty impressive. Bosch has automotive, energy, consumer goods including power tools. TTI has 14 brands in its portfolio and I would not be surprised if they started selling ice cream or uranium enriching centrifuges.