Nice and detailed overview. Cheers for that. I had that same Sony model from around 2000 until late 2009 and it never let me down honestly, but now 11 more years on it's not surprising to hear they are starting to give people troubles. I've used a couple other since then and have had a Technics linear that I really do love since around 2013, but it's giving me grief for the 2nd time in a couple years so I'm looking, like you were, to pick up something I can not have to mess with for my day to day. Cheers.

All the colours are nice in these models. But the walnut is very glamorous. Beautiful turntable 🤩

Top review, love the hands-on from a real enthousiast

Excellent presentation! Thanks!

Excellent review

I'm happy you got a new table. Now you can get back to playing your records.

The gloves are for preventing skin oils from getting on things like the belt during setup. You can of course also wear them for handling records if you wish.

I'm in the same boat with your comment of getting vintage vs new. I've been burned a couple times and as much as I like to tinker, I'm at the point of just wanting a nice table to work. I see it lasting a long time with proper care. That motor should be pretty bulletproof without physically dropping the table lol

MY RT83 ARRIVES IN A WEEK, SUPER EXCITED ! THANKS FOR THIS UPLOAD, MUCH APPRECIATED ALSO ORDERED THE ACRILYC MAT JUST FOR KICKS, UPGRADE? WE"LL SEE.

Most people have no clue how accurate the 60hz coming from the line is. Years ago I toured a Generating plant and in the control room there was a recording frequency meter. There was a 12” wide “strip chart recorder that was recording the line frequency. In the middle was 60hz, to the left, 59hz and to the right 61hz. The pen never varied more than 1/8” deflection up or down. So you can be pretty sure the frequency is DEAD on.

I just ordered the FLUANCE RT-85 yesterday evening really looking forward to receiving it. Ummm the dust gosh have a Golden Retriever.

Nice video!! I'm planning on the rt-82 because I have no need for the I'm red cartridge because of how many I have. Only difference between the 82-85 is cartridge and the top 85 comes with an acrylic platter instead of aluminum. It's on my very short list of next table. The motor is what sold me. Usually have to spend over $1500 for the servo controlled motor. Which isn't a huge deal until the belt wears on a table without it and you have to spend an hour messing with the tiny pots on the bottom of the plynth to get it "just right"

Love the new range of turntables from Fluance. Not sure we can get these in the U.K. as yet. Great attention to detail to include the white gloves to avoid finger prints and skin oil. Probably not the cleverest thing to unbox it on dusty carpet. I’ll be on the lookout for an RT85.

That wood grain is clean tho'.. I'm gettin one of these.. "Nervous Man Music" by Slug bug reminds me of a mixture of Funkadelic & Talking Heads.. Real psychedelic, real cool.. Never heard of them, I'm diggin it, gonna check em out.. Thanx 4 sharin..

Very Nice turntable

What a top record player

Nice decks!!😀🤘🎶

I went with the RT81 But did buy the Ortofon 2M Red ,,,I kind of wish I had went with the RT83 just because of the belt drive But I liked the built in pre amp on the 81 ,,Very cool video thanks for posting

The white gloves are for handling the belt when fitting it as sweat and grease from your hands will degrade the belt over time.

24:51 Rush's Fly By Night has that at the end of By-Tor & The Snow Dog. The jingling repeats over and over.

Never heard of Fluance before, totally new to me.

@Drackleyrva

5 жыл бұрын

Me too---just started shopping for TTs and need to look into this company more.

@djgaryowens

5 жыл бұрын

Hope they are not Chinese made.

I am saving up for the RT85.

Just curious... what happened to AT-LP120's tonearm? And why buying two of them, if you're planning to fix the old one?

I got a RT85N in walnut. Its quality for its price. Nagaoka MP110 cartridge and acrylic platter.

Do you have a suggestion on what preamp to use? I'm pretty new to all this and through watching and reading I've decided this is the exact table I want but I'm still unsure about preamps. If you have a suggestion I would greatly appreciate it!

can you peel the fluance badge off the front or is it beneath the poly?

I notice with my table about the anti-skate, it's dead on when using the floats then set ring to zero and then set weight. But my weight isn't exact and I had to turn mine up when using the stylus pressure scale like you have. What I did was still float and set to zero but then set weight by the digital scale then set anti-skate to what the dial on the weight said which was higher than the 2.0 I set it to on my scale. I think it matches the dial on the weight well but when setting with a scale you may have to turn it up. Another side note about the CD test is if you don't have the CD centered the wobble affects the stylus and can cause it to move toward spindle or away. Best thing to use is an actual blank anti-skate record.

@vintagelife3504

4 жыл бұрын

Laserdisc ive heard are Good

Hi there...are you able to adjust the speed with pots underneath the plinth. Should be adjustable with a screwdriver.

I had to gut my Sony Psx5 and eliminate all internal automatic functions. Now that it is strictly manual, it is a great turntable !

That looks like a nice turntable but I like the automatic turntables. I am using a realistic lab 440 which I bought new in the 80s, I remember it was a little expensive. I purchased a liner tracking turntable back in the 80s as well but unlike the one you have you can change the cartridge. It still works but the realistic lab 440 I like better. I thought about buying the fluance turntable but instead I put a Nagaoka MP110 cartridge on my old turntable and it sounds great.

Are you still liking your rt83? I am almost ready, to buy...would appreciate your , now, well- seasoned opinion.

I sold my Debut Carbon and got this instead because I need a budget table with a removable head shell. Now that they have this new version of the fluance. Mine is on the way I hope I like it.

@jordanroberts2248

4 жыл бұрын

How have you liked it compared to the Debut Carbon?!

@popcornsamurai

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve decided to get a Technics 1200 either the mk7, the 1500c or the GR. The fluance is a good budget table but the tone arm is very flimsy. I can’t recommend it over the debut carbon or a rega p2 unless you really need a removable head shell. I will keep the fluance for my bedroom once I get the technics for my living room.

How does the 85 compare sound wise with the Planar 3 ?

Nice table good starting point servo motor is good. you can make flutter even better by putting the belt in a bag of talcum powder this will increase it's performance and the belt last longer, I would upgrade the platter and mat is the best improvement if you can, they will build you one if you ask achro platter by funk firm is the best way or just there 5mm achromat or 3 mm if you can't adjust vta, on the arm, And best improvement you can make isolate your turntable and speakers drastically help a lot get some rockwool 30mm thick cut it to the size required with a bread knife, place a piece of half an inch of ply or MDF on top place a turntable on top of this some with the speakers. Make a dramatic improvement

My spring on my RT82 was a bit strong and I had to adjust back to get it right! I run at 1.5 g and anti skate set at 1.3

You got bad luck with turntables. Great video. I might just invest in one of these.

One ground is used to ground the turntable to pre-amp/receiver. The second ground is included to ground between an external pre-amp and the amplifier. Only one would be needed if you have an internal pre-amp.

@jloahunra76

2 жыл бұрын

I gutted my lp120 audio technica of the preamp and just recently upgraded to a external preamp. Night and day from my denon internal preamp on my Theater receiver. I didn’t run a ground from the preamp to the receiver I just have the one I made for the turntable to the external. I have no hummm or feedback noise. I don’t recall project mentioning that in the instructions either. Should I add a ground to the receiver even if I’m not experiencing an issue? Thanks

@unappropriate1

2 жыл бұрын

@@jloahunra76 if you are happy you are happy. Leave it alone if it sounds right.

The gloves are for two things, 1 - To keep Fingerprints off that Beautiful Walnut - and second, static free handling / - I am assuming that. A couple tips from your "Uncle Kev" #1 - Get a Zero-Stat Anti-Static Gun and zap your turntable the same method as you would a Vinyl Record. #2, Clean your HVAC Air Filter. The turntable may have a slight static charge to it and trust me - dust magnet. I would zap it from time to time whenever you see it collecting more dust than other "Knickknacks / Furnishing close by. Also I would suggest going to Home Depot / Lowes and buy a high quality AC Filter that collects dust down to the lowest microns available - A typical Air Filter may run 8 bucks, a Low Micron Filter will run about 20 but worth every penny. And they last longer so kind of a break even when comparing costs. I realize I am a perfectionist, can't help it, and I have Moderate OCD so the "Minor" warping on the platter would drive me up a wall - Lol. Yes, I have to live with myself. I echo the comment on the stylus pressure gauge, either remove the stylus cover or weigh it on a gram scale so you can compensate for it when you adjust the tracking weight.

wish Technics would reproduce the belt drive full auto BD 22. long long ago I had an original AR full manual T'table, it taught me to always buy an automatic - I have a mid 70's Pioneer 117 that's still working very fine, thou I only use it a couple times a month.

I was going to go vintage but you just dont know how the previous owner treated the turntable so its a shot in the Dark, So im going to buy a New Fluance 84 or 85 the acrylic platter You can't get any better sound from a Table with a acrylic platter I did a lot of researchon the matter & the Blue Cartridge is another reason Im going with the 85 But the 83 definitely is a great turn table ....Great video just subscribed

specs on the RT82-RT84 are the same, only different cartridges are supplied.

Looks ok for a low cost TT.

I believe you neglected to remove the stylus guard before setting the tracking force.

Is the tonearm and stylist easily changeable?

That is really a nice quality looking turntable. I'm just curious, what aspects of vintage tables got you frustrated?

@lmull3

5 жыл бұрын

That Sony PS-X5 left a really bad taste in my mouth and since then I've learned that a lot of Sony products from that era had stupid issues. I recently had a cassette deck that suffered the same problem. At the time I bought the Fluance, I was frustrated that I bought somebody else's problem, so I decided to go the opposite route and I've been happy.

Fantastic video, looks gorgeous, how has it behaved since you've made this video ?

Any idea if the RT83 is upgradable to the acrylic platter of the upper models? Great review! I'm guessing you had to order this directly from Fluance? I haven't seen this on Amazon yet.

@lmull3

5 жыл бұрын

The entire reference line can be upgraded as far as the platter is concerned, so you could get the RT-82 or 83 and get the acrylic platter later on if you don't like the metal one. I did order this directly from Fluance, yes.

@dam4274

4 жыл бұрын

jgyokohama It’s on Amazon now.

If it doesn’t have a preamp, then that means you have to buy one for your receiver/amp that has a built in phono preamp? I have an Emotiva TA-100 stereo integrated amp and it’s worked with the audio technica budget turntables and just asking for clarification? It has both moving cartridge and magnet support, I’m new to vinyl and want the best entry turntable and I’m hearing good things about this record player. How has it been holding up? Do you still enjoy using it?

@2010stoof

4 жыл бұрын

Yes this table will require a receiver/integrated amp with a phono input or a preamp

The 83 makes the most sense. For another $120 down the road, one can upgrade with the acrylic platter, probably a better up-grade then from Red to Blue.

@craigclark2851

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed - If your budget is $350, then the upgrade later to the acrylic platter is the right choice, will lower resonance, improve speed stability and improve overall clarity. However - If you can wait to spend the extra $150 more from the 83 to 85 (or $30 more than just the acrylic platter upgrade on the 83 ) you get the acrylic platter and the OM2 Blue on the 85. If you purchase the blue stylus separately it's $160, + the platter $120 total upgrade cost for both of $280. Spend $150 more now - save $130 later...

@mic982

3 жыл бұрын

@@craigclark2851 That certainly breaks down the numbers. I'm pretty certain Fluance did the same numbers crunching too. In the end, I opted for the 85 just to be done with it. My only concern will be the expense of replacing the Blue stylus when the time comes. It would be senseless to replace it with the less expensive Red stylus now that I've spent the extra $ for the 85. Very happy with the TT, btw. It performs beautifully and sounds terrific.

Looking at that JVC, I never understood how anybody thought those thin, light tonearms were ever a good idea. They are so light, the arm will vibrate at audio frequencies and color the sound. The job of the tonearm is to hold the cartridge perfectly still, while the needle wiggles around. If the cartridge is vibrating too (because of low mass or sloppy bearings), that means audio energy and information is being lost.

The dust couldn't have anything to do with assembly on a dusty probably statically charged carpet? I've got a" listening" turntable as well, couldn't think of anything else to do with it. You should have mentioned your mistake doing the weighting with the stylus protector on, for those who did not notice the cut where you finally took it off. Sort of negates all the effort to be informative. It's hot here this evening and I'm feeling in a pick mood. :)

I wanted to go with the RT85 for the acrylic platter and 2m blue, but both RT85 & RT84 are on backorder now. If I buy the RT83 will I be able to swap out the aluminum platter for acrylic?

@islandsounz7480

5 жыл бұрын

I was waiting also, but got tired so I got the 83 and I love it. Fluance says when they restock the 84 and 85 they'll be selling the acrylic platters for upgrades.

@2010stoof

4 жыл бұрын

Yes you can buy the platter and just drop it on. Also not sure when you were shopping but the 85 is the only one that comes with the platter. They changed the 84 to aluminum but give you the blue cartridge.

@islandsounz7480

4 жыл бұрын

I was able to get the platter and I did see the new 84 didn't have the acrylic platter anymore, but they upgraded the cartridge to the blue.

@dam4274

4 жыл бұрын

Amazon has the RT85 in stock.

Hey! When you’re balancing a tonearm drop the lift lever. You’ll get a better tracking weight 😃

@ackamack101

2 жыл бұрын

If you are using a digital stylus gauge to set the counterweight, do you need to 'float' the arm first, or can you just put the counterweight on and go straight to adjusting the arm? Thanks!

@markielinhart

2 жыл бұрын

Sure thing, balance (float) the tonearm to get a zero stylus pressure then adjust the counterweight to get the right setting…✌️

I'm seriously considering replacing my dual 506 with the rt83 mainly because I like the idea of being able to experiment with different cartridges and I'm tired of I'm probably gonna spell this wrong Sibilence it's driving me crazy

Have you noticed any noise from the motor? Should I expect it to have a little noise or should I expect it to be dead silent?

@2010stoof

4 жыл бұрын

It's design of motor not only being separate to the side and extremely well dampened should render it pretty much silent. If you hear noise it's probably from another component in the chain between the table and speakers

Yes the gloves are very handy I’m sure you did some research by NOW lol Koreans and such use gloves for most anything they do while handling vinyl and expensive audio equipment I have the 85 model and love it to me you must treat vintage and new TTs like a new born baby’s lol .Great video.

You can get it wet.. just dont let water get under the veneer

Well,i hope they really put a better motor in it and not just a servo in front of the old dirt cheap one. Anyway,the w&f of the new RT`s is now nearly as good as old Duals like 601 or 1249 with 8pol. AC-sync motors.

@lmull3

5 жыл бұрын

I guess time will only tell. I have seen a few other people with RT81 turntables that still work fine, so.

@Zockopa

5 жыл бұрын

@@lmull3 : Right,one can just hope for the best. Anyway,the Fluance turntables are nice looking ones and imho competitivly priced. If the quality is good for the price,other brands will have to be inventive to defend their market share.

Do you still like this table and cartridge? I'm this close to buying it.

There is a difference between the (81,82,83 and 84,85 other than cartridges. The 84 ,85 have an acrylic platter which is a better platter there are many studies on the subject which a acrylic platter will give you the best performance, and the acrylic platter is the best platter material you can get . Enjoy your new buy I think they are all a great buy 81,82 ,83 84,or 85 you cant go wrong with any of them

@PortofinoArts

5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a simple minds song hehe....😊Fluance should get the rights to.

@2010stoof

4 жыл бұрын

84 now comes with aluminum platter and ortophone blue.

@bobportnoy8304

4 жыл бұрын

I bought an acrylic mat for the platter which gives some of the benefits of the whole platter and it's only 20.00 online and got great reviews.

When are you making a x58 audio system? :P

@lmull3

5 жыл бұрын

Yes

Are you still happy with the RT83? I'm on the fence between an U-turn Orbit Custom and a Fluance RT83 for my son's 21st birthday, both with 2M Red cartridges. The main difference is I could get an acrylic platter for the same price on the U-turn. What I don't get with U-turn is speed switch, adjustable feet, auto off, and the tone arm is more adjustable.

@arielargo

5 жыл бұрын

I think the Fluance is better value, sturdier, better built, and with the speed switch, auto-off and including the cue lever. It's a no brainier. I'm upgrading to the acrylic platter later.

@bobportnoy8304

4 жыл бұрын

@@arielargo Exactly why I'm going with the Fluance, especially the auto-off feature. Also, I just picked up an acrylic platter mat on E-Bay (much better than cork or rubber from the reviews) which will help mimic the platter, but for only 20.00 . As you said, you can upgrade the whole platter later for 120.00 if you want.

I have a Linn Ittock arm watching one of their videos on you tube they admit that their Ittock anti skate calibration is not accurate and advise to set it up by listening test.

i bet i can fit an arm on that jvc. one with a regular cartridge not pmount

How has your experience continued to be? I'm in the market.

Counter weight is to lite for some headshells

Any update in 2024 on this turntable?

Fluance = Fluid Nuance = Fluance

I don't know why, but when I read "FLUANCE," "Flatulence" comes to mind. I do have a filthy mind though.

@cbyarmak1462

5 жыл бұрын

Fluance ? I think of Nuance...coincidence? My Latin is weak but I think Nuance means “stay away”

@robertgaines-tulsa

5 жыл бұрын

@@cbyarmak1462 I didn't think of Nuance. Google defined nuance as "a subtle difference in or shade of meaning, expression, or sound." That could be interpreted as detail in sound. If you take northlander's interpretation of "flu" as wave, then I guess you would call it detail in wave or sound waves. Anyway, a stick of dynamite should fix it...

@undress62

5 жыл бұрын

Robert Gaines same here

The RT-85 might be the current king of affordable tables. The Orbit plus and pro-ject seem flimsy.

@lmull3

5 жыл бұрын

People really overhype Pro-ject and Orbit.

@2010stoof

4 жыл бұрын

My buddy is shopping for a table and I told him about fluance and he had never heard of them Says alot to marketing and sponsoring of many vinyl KZreadrs for the other pro-ject and u-turn type brands

The 2m Blue is twice as good as the Red, I also have the 2m Bronze but there is only a slight difference in that one and its 440.00 Looks like a nice turntable.

Get a Pioneer Linear tracker!! I have had my PL-L800 for about 10 years now and it's awesome, it's an awesome thing and well worth what they are now but I paid way less when vinyl was not "the thing" but awesome turntable and vintage.

Shame it's not available here in Holland :-(

@juliandb4699

3 жыл бұрын

Via the Fluance website I believe

Only vintage TTs worth owning are true high end models. Idler or Japanese DD.

That TT will run rings around the others you have

My Dual 1209 is fine !!!

I have a U-Turn Orbit which is a perfectly fine turntable but it doesn't seem as quality as this one.

@2010stoof

4 жыл бұрын

My friend is shopping right now and I led him toward fluance. He said he never heard of them. Only u-turn, pro-ject, etc.

@chardvaark1

4 жыл бұрын

@@2010stoof Fluance has been around for quite a while. They were primarily known for speakers. I have 2 pairs of their bookshelf speakers, and for the price, they can't be beaten They are hooked up to my computer with a small class D amp for their power. I watch movies on the computer and, wow, those speakers make them sound so lifelike!.

81 sitn here lookin fat my Carver is ready !!!!!!!!!!!!

If that’s a “solid wood” plinth then iKea sells a lot of solid wood furniture.

@popcornsamurai

4 жыл бұрын

I actually do have a lot of solid wood furniture from IKEA. My entire bedroom set. Not bad for the price :). If I had the money I would prefer a local carpenter of course.

@Metallizombie

4 жыл бұрын

It’s solid wood. Clearly you haven’t handled one. It’s a gorgeous and heavy table.

@erics8757

4 жыл бұрын

@@Metallizombie I thought he said it was mdf, which is not solid wood?

@thomaslytle5519

3 жыл бұрын

Eric Sherman MDF is engineered wood that happens to be made from actual hardwood and it’s more dense and stronger than plywood or particle board. This is solid mdf wood like 2” thick. It’s solid wood

Jeez dude how can anyone 1person have so much tt problems!!

The cd test is invalid. Gives spurious results since you only see tracking error over the runout and label where it spikes up drastically. You have to test antiskate force between the null points.

You wanted a new turntable.

@lmull3

5 жыл бұрын

Ok

@bk6678

5 жыл бұрын

I have the 81. Nice turntable, congrats.

*dramatic leadup to needle drop* oh yeah, phone mic

You trust the factory alignment of the cartridge? Bad idea. Download a two point protractor, and do it right.

@lmull3

5 жыл бұрын

It's fine.

@2010stoof

4 жыл бұрын

Fluance gives you one in your manual. It's a loefgren. I believe back page of the manual

external preamp...Schiit Mani

Nog even en dan is de draaitafel zo complex dat een lp afspelen een experiment wordt. Dat kan toch niet de bedoeling zijn!!!

Don't get it wet and don't feed it after Midnight.

The gloves are to prevent getting oil from your hands on to your records. Not assembly......

@2010stoof

4 жыл бұрын

They told me it's to not get prints on the plinth but also very importantly not to get your oils on the belt.

@26:50.. yeah toss it in a dumpster

Get an x5670 in this bitch

Slug bug...

this thing gets dust by looking at it . I had a laugh you talking about cartridges like they last forever or the sound isn't changing no matter how used they are.well it is. ortofon says that a regular stylus last 1000 hours of listening, then needs replacement. if you don't, the sound reproduction is obviously flawed, and I believe that after that the record grooves will suffer

@lmull3

4 жыл бұрын

The stylus and the cartridge are separate parts and are not the same thing. Theoretically you could use a cart forever if you continue to change the stylus.

@cristianmicu

4 жыл бұрын

@@lmull3 yeah i knew that. some people opinion that the cartridge also deteriorates a bit during the life of a stylus. in many cases the difference extra in price between a stylus and cartridge with stykus is minor comparing to the price of a stylus only

A Sony product that doesn't work right? Shocker. 😉

check your anti-skating

Talking about getting wet I once pissed on my VHS when I was drunk.For some reason it didn't seem to work after that.Pretty embarrassing really because my wife and 2 of my friends were watching a video at the time

2m is a real cartridge you have been listening to shit up until now.

primitive tech using a rubber band with a 2 sized cog to change speed, no automatic start and return...This tech was achieved in the 50s...lol nice try.