New Leagues of Votann Info! | Reaction & Lore
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Ian's video turn out speed is going to start matching Auspex Tactics soon.
@JamesRansom
2 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@ArbitorIan
2 жыл бұрын
Look, all I'm saying is that OBS turns out to be MUCH easier than actually editing stuff. I've got three more Heresy Legion videos lined up and no idea when I'm gonna release them!!
@anthonyplayter2981
2 жыл бұрын
@@ArbitorIan have you considered doing a Podcast?
@justincrawford5992
2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully his quality doesn't dip the theirs
@Stygar_JW
2 жыл бұрын
And his way of presenting the lore and/or machanics are much more exciting than Auspexs'.
Don't worry Tech-Priests, it's not Abominable Intelligence, it's Ancestral Intelligence! I promise we have a decomposing human head inside there somewhere like all civilized people.
@ScooterinAB
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's ancestral intelligence. Totally different. Don't need to worry, guys.
@Seraphus87
2 жыл бұрын
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@splintmeow4723
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, makes me feel better about it now 😊
We're still missing the most important pieces of info on the new Votann: how many Land Train models will there be and how many trains can I fit into a 2,000 point army list? 28mm scale Land Trains or we riot! 🤬😤🤬
@jcilvik
2 жыл бұрын
Necrmundo just got a land train. I like the model :)
@andrewdussault2315
2 жыл бұрын
Depends on how much Arkan Land was into trains
Also another thing I like about that art is the center Kin has cloth on his armor with kinda classic dwarf styling. Feels like a nice nod to the space dwarf origin while making it less on the nose.
I have the tech priest squat model! It's one of the jewels of my oldhammer collection, can't wait to use him in 40k again... even if he's gonna be a particularly squat squat due to the scale increase.
@doctoradventure413
2 жыл бұрын
I’m so jealous I really want to get the old squat and Adeptus Mechanicus minis but they’re super rare and very expensive
@svenv460
2 жыл бұрын
I have a few of those 2, they are great! I hope you also have his servitor buddy
@Mugdorna
2 жыл бұрын
I have an old RT era Thudd gun (with "Imperial Army" gunner) Gave it to a mate last Friday. He will use it in his Adeprus Mechanics army.
Odd knight's-move on mythological inspiration, but not unusual for GW. What they seem to be referencing is the head of Mimir, which was visited by Odin (Wotan, Votan, etc.) to draw knowledge from. But then, 'League of Mimir' is a vaguely silly name.
@Michael_Raymond
Жыл бұрын
Oooh good catch, that's actually super cool
@nrais76
Жыл бұрын
Very good catch.
Less an artificial intelligence, more of an almost intelligence. I love the idea of a slowly emerging intelligence from the STC, which always struck me as being near intelligent anyway.
@Redfoxjack
2 жыл бұрын
all most like vary cranky titan machine spirits
“Go and tell your master that we have been charged by the Omnissiah with a sacred quest. If he will give us corpse starch and rehydrated water, he can join us in our quest for the STC” “Well I’ll ask him, but I don’t think he’ll be very keen. Ah, he’s already got one, you see!” … “Are you sure he’s got one?” “Oh yes ah, it’s very nice!”
I LOVE this article. So incredibly pumped for this new addition to 40K.
It looks like in the art that Older Squats are encased behind glass with tubes and pipes feeding to something. I believe that would be Votann and this gets back to the idea of ancestor worship.
From reading the Article I get the impression that they are STCs that have developed into AIs through overuse without a reset. I do still hope they are either matched with the Men of Iron or with their own Robots, I want a robot faction and sadly there is none, the Adeptus Mechanicus aren't allowed their 30k stuff in 40k, and the necrons aren't robots, they're undead.
Quite clever when you think about GWs release schedule this days: Every few years a batch of completely new units with accompanying models. This could be justified easily buy stating "An Ancestor Core finally printed the diagrams, that the Squats clicked on 150 years ago".
@ScooterinAB
2 жыл бұрын
Buffering, buffering. Damnit, packet loss. Refresh.
I also like that the Exo-Armour shares a lot of similarities to Saturnine Pattern Terminator Armour and Gravis Armour.
@WozWozEre
2 жыл бұрын
Nerd fact - there is no 'Saturnine' pattern armour in canon, it was a name given by fans.
@WozWozEre
2 жыл бұрын
Source - kzread.info/dash/bejne/inZmyMyqqZathto.html
@Nukefandango
2 жыл бұрын
@@WozWozEre it's a badass name tho
@MrPiccolop
2 жыл бұрын
@@WozWozEre you watched luetins video too 🤣
@svenv460
2 жыл бұрын
They look a lot like the second generation/unreleased squat exo/power armour model (baby terminator) mixed with the first ever squat (mercenary bonce). The overlapping slabs on the armour remind me a bit of which some iron claw models had. The weapon from the earlier teased model might have appeared on those 2.
Watching this vid and reading the comments, I just realised that this ALSO ties into an early Dr Who episode where a computer called Wotan starts to gain sentience...
I like this new interpretation of squat ancestor worship. Excited for the first leagues kits to come out.
I love the fact theres an inquisitor in one of the Chambers in that picture is a nice touch
“I’m glad we’ve got some Egg”- Ian 022 M3
I'm hoping living ancestors still exist in some form. Given the Librarians name for Imperial psykers, LA being some sort of curators for the Voltann would work. Regardless theres something that works for me with the idea that Voltann are just massive Master Computers that desperately need a ram upgrade.
I love how they're leaning more into the STC-but-better angle, even if it means less chance of Men of Iron also appearing.
Will Squats be part of HH eventually? In fact, one aspect of the Heresy lore I dislike is how, apparently, all the Xenos races and rival Human civilisations just kind of back off for centuries while the Imperium (their greatest existential foe imaginable) do a bit of a fighty. I'd love to see at least the Rogue Trader-era races eventually turn up, even if just as minor factions.
@jtrain9926
2 жыл бұрын
The main Xenos races are all in Heresy, but Eldar are smart/prescient enough to avoid the great crusade forces mostly, Necrons just arent awake, and Tau dont exist outside of their planet. The others are either completely destroyed or scattered in the case of the Orks during the crusade and simpley dont exist during the time of the Heresy.
@sschuster2180
2 жыл бұрын
The Heresy itself only lasted for like 7 years and humanity dunked on pretty much anyone who could be considered a threat before Horus had his hissyfit tho
@nekrataali
2 жыл бұрын
HH really could expand on Xenos factions. It'd be cool to play games of 30k Orks vs. Eldar immediately after The Fall. Or groups like the Interex organized into coalitions of humans and aliens (would also provide T'au with more auxiliary models that could be converted for 40k).
@sevatarlives185
2 жыл бұрын
@@nekrataaliSlann, Orks, Squats, Genestealers, Zoats, Eldar, Jokaero, Rogue Traders and assorted pirates was what I was thinking. I'd see it as a way of expanding HH to encompass some of the really old Rogue Trader stuff, as well as less represented historical factions active in HH.
@AndrewMcColl
2 жыл бұрын
@@sevatarlives185 Squats are kinda available already, in the form of the Militia list. The Survivors of the Dark Age and Abhuman Zealots get you most of the way to a Squat/Kin list.
Fantastic work! Can't wait to hear more as time comes.
The power armour worn by the two guards in the background looks A LOT like Terran marine power armour from Starcraft.
Not being a builder, painter or collector just a fan of the lore; the idea of secret manic computers now forcing the Squats into action just as the Maladictum appears(?), a renewed Imperium doing deals with the Eldar, Guilliman wandering back in, it’s like we’re seeing a new post 40k phase appearing and finally pushes things forward looks great!
I have not played in over a decade, but this might be the thing that brings me back into the hobby.
The new Squats are led by the upgraded version of Holly from "White Hole".
Cool video thanks for sharing. I enjoy listening along
10:04 As a wise man once said: "I have seen the future... *AND IT'S EGG-SHAPED!!!"*
i was really thrown off by the second image, it took me a moment to realise those were actually kin rather than human as the proportions are distinctly un-dwarfy, especially with those tiny heads
I think the evolution from "ancestor worship" ----> "worship of this advanced AI that holds the wisdom of our ancestors" to be, as the kids say, rad as heck
I'm just waiting to see the LoV in Kill Team. Would be surprised if they aren't in one of the next two Kill Team boxed releases.
It’s really nice how excited everyone is about this. So far so good
Loving all the videos
love the Tomorrow Never Dies reference. I expect next year there will be an ArbitorIan video on his media manipulation squats fabricating war between Imperial factions. Baddies in that were mostly German, so it's even better.
Oh wow! I've been thinking about getting into 40K (I only play AoS atm), and yeah everything they're releasing so far for this new faction is hitting all the right notes for me. Super excited to see more! Hope we see a diversity of models, want to play some cool space dwarf women~
@WilCornish
2 жыл бұрын
It’s been extremely good seeing you get hyped for this
@maukka1545
2 жыл бұрын
bruh
Definitely the best 40k channel out there at the moment. Keep up the great work 👍
You pointed out the maybe-window, but I'm more interested in the Tomb of the Cybermen on the left side of the image.
bro you could make one of these videos every single day and i would be right here watching them, so def dont worry about frequency
Excellent video.
Oh Great Votaan ,what is the ultimate answer to life the universe and everything? 'Egg shaped thing b'hudday lol' Cat Gif*
Decades or Centuries to give an answer? Do a lot of them come back with 42 ;-) (well, I suppose that took millions of year, but you know what I mean...)
@Tulkash01
2 жыл бұрын
The solution to all problems…
Loving the channel, keep that content hose going strong.
This is fascinating. This opens up the possibility that the Votann were originally all over human space and were involved in the creation of the Men of iron. Also when consider the nature of the squats and their dwarven inspiration is it possible that the men of stone might have something to do with them as well. It would be interesting to know if a Votann was involved in the creation of the Mechanium and if the tech priests ever discovered of the Votann it would fuck them up. Or what if the top tech priests already know this but doing anything about it would cause them more trouble than it was worth. and What did the Emperor know about them. oh the possibilities...
I don't know about you all, but my squats worship at the altar of Max Headroom. The quantum infocore repository of 40,000 years of MTV VJ personalities
I think what's interesting is why they chose Votann. After this article it became a bit clearer - in Northern European mythology Wotan/Odin is not only a god of military royalty, victory, etc., but also a god of wisdom, knowledge and sorcery. Which now ties with these Votann cogitators - a vast repositories of knowledge and problem-solving. Cool stuff. Can't wait to see more about them.
@sonicwingnut
2 жыл бұрын
Also in Dr Who there was an AI called WOTAN which was more or less a "Men Of Iron" style AI that in one timeline caused Earth to regress technologically and slip into perpetual war. Which sounds more than a bit familiar.
One thing that I noticed about Votann being the Germanic name for Odin, Odin is the god of secrets and forbidden knowledge as well as a warrior god. Perhaps the original settlers that became the squats named the STC's after this ancient earth god and have stuck with it for thousands of years. Because what does an STC do, provide secrets and almost forbidden knowledge.
I can't wait for this army to be released... i wanted them when i started the hobby nearly 30 years ago and i can now, finally... get my hands on them!! Great vids 👌
I'd forgotten about the squat tech priest, I loved that model as a kid
Good video! As for the topic, one interesting thing I noticed is the fact these Votann are not described as being hidden on spaceships, I get the impression the LoV have their own planets which would have nice implications for the supposed end of the Squat Empire.
Rock and Stone to the bone!
Leagues of Votann being the 'Men of Stone' confirmed
I really, really like this lore update. It both respects and keeps the old fluff but interprets it in a modern, very intriguing way that fits neatly into current 40k. (Also, there is a heavy Hitchhiker's Guide Deep Thought influence in there, which is always a plus, IMO.) I sense Phil Kelly's trusty writer hand in this, but I could be wrong. Thanks for covering, Ian! Looking forward to more on this!
HA! I totally called this one! I said elsewhere on here recently that I thought Votann was an advanced AI. Where I was wrong was in that Votann was plural, not singular.
All hail Zardoz!!!
Look at the picture above the floor in the "gallery" windows above you'll see some VERY dwarfy looking elders. Are they interfaced with the Votann?
I'm recently getting back into 40k. Got books and supplies. Was thinking of buying imp guard but I think I'll hold out for this army
The smoother, more curvy look of the tech can also bee seen in the Custodes Forge World vehicles that are very different from the Mars look that say the Space Marines and sisters have.
Squat fluff!? Insert the sound of Beavis & Butthead laughing! here! :D
Nice looking forward to your interpetation
I’m getting Zardoz vibes from this. Big stone head that gives you your technology? Ooo, might get a bunch of fire slayers and create a lesser league to match the film :)
Who else would like to see Ian, Mira, and the Tale of Four Gamers peeps doing some 40k role playing? :)
I'm really liking the direction the Leagues of Votann are taking. It's making me more and more excited for their release
The Squat lore is looking great!
I can't help but notice similarities to The Race in Harry turtle doves World War series. Although different the cogitaters seems to be taking longer and longer to come up with solutions very similar to the aliens in said novel. I wonder if this is how lore wise that's how they get around this highly advanced race not having every single piece of dark age technology ready to be made.
I love the Mechanicus and I'm stoked if the Squats are adjacent to that lore and expand it.
I was not convinced by the "maybe next year" and I don't think you were either 🤣
I think we know now to call them kin as votann is the giga computers. I really love everything we’ve seen so far, I think they’re gonna be my favourite and main faction
I like the idea that that Votann apparently are talked about by the Kin in conversation with regular humans, but never specified. Could be a fun way to have some of the old Squat fluff of Ancestor Worship and Living Ancestors be reframed as imperial scholars misunderstanding what they hear about Votann Cores.
I think that the ancestor cores are going to be a combination of STC and virtualized personalities of the squats. This is probably where the tau got the technology for aun va and shas o'kais from the dark crusade game and war of secrets
belisarius cawl: our STCs
I want my walking and shooting eggs
Loving your videos Arbiter :D One species I'd like more info about is the old Zoats which they re-released in one of the new box sets. Could we have a lore vid about those, please :) Your Squat video prompted GW to bring the Space Dwarves into the modern era, maybe a Zoat video would work as well :p
@Mugdorna
2 жыл бұрын
I think the Zoats are referenced in his video about the Fimir.
Getting real Atlantis vides of this lore.
@ArbitorIan
2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah!
"The Warhammer Community's own ancestor core"? Is that anyway to refer to Rick Priestley?
So the Votan are like Hol/Holly from Red Dwarf 🤣
The cores just seem to be ancient networked supercomputers that haven't been defragged in maybe 15000 years and are getting a tad slow.
The armor looks like tau. I want gambisons and spike helmets.
The face of a collector realizing they're not going to be able to resist a new product 😂
Pointless Sidenote: Tomorrow Never Dies’ Villains plan has not only come true in current day, but is also the root of a ton of geopolitical problems we are all experiencing day to day!
They look like Gravis armor just sleeker. I guess like a short mark 10.
hey a reference to Butlarian Jihad!
I wonder if it could be hinted at or revealed later that the votann are the men of iron especially considering that men of iron aren’t constrained to physical forms and can pretty much move from machine to machine
Long Live Votann Z ⭐ ... ✌️💚
Now I am bit interested what some Kin heavy armor units look in models as I be interested to cobble some stuff out of them
ive a thunderbird ! " the mole " kit in my " cant use it " cupboard ,...its all dusted off for a mining conversion ........if you keep things long enough
OH NO NOT MORE CONTENT FROM OUR FAVOURITE KZreadR 🌝
"Never forget I am not this silver body, Mahrai. I am not an animal brain, I am not even some attempt to produce an AI through software running on a computer. I am a Culture Mind. We are close to gods, and on the far side."
I don't know of anyone in my gaming group who is going to call them the Leagues of Votann. We're calling them what they have always been and always will be: SQUATS!
„Hey ho“ =D
I had four or five exo-squats, don't know where they are now though
When I first saw them I thought they looked very primaris like and now I see them even more like marines. I wonder how their interactions with the astartes will go
Any one get vibes of the "Deep Thought" computer from Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy (incased in a "Zardoz" style head)?
I like the armour, if they got an sct and they are all miners it would make sense for their armours to be like that, as the sct is probably producing mining armour and equipment, that they are adapting to war, i just want MUCH that their armour gets way more ornamented, as dwarfs in fantasy tend to make things going from genaration to generation, and it fits both warhammer (better than just plain bulky, it's very ugly and looks like world of warcraft) and adds a lot of character to their equipment, like the vostroyans do
Nice. But hmmmm. I wonder what Luetin would say!
I'm seriously torn if I want to put my Aeldari Corsair army on pause and go all in with the Kin or just keep on keeping on with my space elves
These Ancestor Cores seem intelligent *enough* that a zealous inquisitor might well start shooting first and not bother to ask questions later. The imperium isn't exactly known for it's grasp of nuance
@nullakjg767
2 жыл бұрын
Works, its good to keep the factions distinct with their own cultures. Thats why warhammer works. There is potential for conflict between all factions so long as they have distinct cultures. Thats all you need.
I really like UR-25 as the only example of a Man of Iron in the miniatures range. Given how far off in the past they are, having this one single model in a niche part of the galaxy is perfect.
Votann = Zardoz? The secrets of the Leagues is that they are led by immortal Sean Connery in red pants. The Squats are presented as Scottish after all.
It seems the best way to solve the memory capacity issue would be to have the ancestor doo-dads make some new memory storage device…🧐
Huh. I think Men of Iron are /more/ likely now than less.
My Admech force will not allow this Tech-Heresy to stand!