New Kimber KDS9C Rail: A Feature Packed Compact Double Stack 1911 First Shots
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Kimber’s reputation notwithstanding, this is one I would genuinely love to see if it holds up to the full 1000 (or however far it goes).
@indycharlie
23 күн бұрын
Same !
@Three60Crusader
23 күн бұрын
It will hold up
@shadowprepper9358
23 күн бұрын
Considering I wanna replace my edc custom II with the kds9c, I'm looking forward to a 1k round review. At 6k of 45acp, only had two failures to feed, abt 2800 of those were hollows.
@tylzzr
23 күн бұрын
for almost 2000 dollars it better
@melissasmess2773
19 күн бұрын
It will, but the same model you bought won't!😂
So I bought one. Had it 4 months and over 2k. Zero issues after break in. Absolutely love it.
@OldGlaseye-gf7si
22 күн бұрын
How many 'issues' before 'break in'??
@melissasmess2773
19 күн бұрын
So you put 2,000 rounds through it after a slew of problems...nice🙄
@chrisperry1590
19 күн бұрын
@@melissasmess2773 not what I said at all. Guess you're just a natural asshole. Best of luck to you
@vipe650r
18 күн бұрын
@@melissasmess2773 Interesting assumptions with zero questions to understand. Nice.
Definitely have my vote for 1k rounds review
@Dogglegg
23 күн бұрын
+1
@MatthewsSloan
22 күн бұрын
Yes please!
@The3OfSwords
16 күн бұрын
Agreed
Few years back, when I worked as a sales associate in a gunshop here in Puerto Rico, one of the most returned pistol for warranty was the Kimber. And of course the Taurus
@Dogglegg
23 күн бұрын
Hmm. Never had to return any of my 9 Kimbers. I understood that they needed to be broken in, and to use different mags by Wilson Combat or Chip McCormick... And to keep them clean, oiled lightly, and to use Brian Enos' Slide-glide.
@HWG-wm8ld
23 күн бұрын
The more guns people have, the less they shoot.
@007Chancellor
23 күн бұрын
Same here - at the largest gun shop chain in So Cal. And worse yet, Mimber was only able to rectify the problem about 50% of the time.
@tylerrodriguez9233
23 күн бұрын
@@Dogglegg damn that sure is a lot of work arounds for a problem that almost no other brands have. I just buy Wilson Combats and get the right mags included right in the box lol
@70bonnevilleguy53
23 күн бұрын
@Dogglegg My Rapide Black Ice was well past break in and a total piece of shit, just like the other Kimber 1911 I had.
Another vote for 1000rnd review. I’m a big Kimber fan and here’s why: I commanded a unit in Afghan for a year and we wanted to get a commemorative pistol. Kimber customer service was outstanding! They bent over backwards to produce what we wanted, beautiful engraving on a 1911 slide and grips, great price, shipped to FFLs literally all over the country. Ms Kosar is a gem in their custom gun shop. Colt hung up on us twice from overseas. Also own a TLE II, brother owns one, we love them, no issue. Semper Fi
This Kimber certainly give me budget WC vibes! Let's see it go 1000 rds...
@HawgSnatchin
23 күн бұрын
+1 on the 1k rd review but why should I consider this over a staccato (rhetorical)😮
I can share a 500 round review-I have shot this gun for 500 rounds and experienced no malfunction of any kind. It is a great gun. It is light, very comfortable in my hands and very accurate. It is the best 1911 gun I have owned thus far. If you search for it you can find it for less price. I got mine for $1450, new in the box, never used.
@alanb.1540
22 күн бұрын
Same here , shoots great,eats everything , really loves 124gr. And , pricing wasn’t the 1900 as stated , shelf pricing much lower
I think Kimber found the sweet spot with this one. This definitely needs a 1000 round review.
Why are optic mounts so difficult for these huge gun companies? And fuck the plates too. Just give us an RMR/Rmsc footprint for direct mounting and good screws, without removing the rear sight.
@ElainesDomain
23 күн бұрын
I agree.
@klee1410
23 күн бұрын
because trijicon rmr's weren't actually designed to go on handguns originally and hence a number of full sized guns (like 1911/2011) have slides that are actually more narrow than distance between the 2 rmr screw holes, which necessitates a plate. Yes, you could go rmsc direct mount, but there's literally ONE optic that's remotely close to full size that mounts to that cut: the regular holosun eps.
@machongwei7082
23 күн бұрын
Have you ever thought about the length in between the rear sights and the cartridge extractor? That’s where the optics gonna be placed, and in my opinion, currently 99% of the market pistols just simply doesn’t have enough space to both simply and securely sit the optics there. So those big companies came with a bunch of alternatives fixes(like take the entire rear iron sights off so that gives more length) to avoid change the entire manufacturing line. Things like that I would say just look at canik mete series, simply make that space bigger and all problems solved.
@indymusick
23 күн бұрын
Impact CNC Machine in Louisiana makes plates for these
@dtps_champion6016
21 күн бұрын
buy a pdp and shaddup
I’d like to see a comparison video of the following double stack hammer fired pistols. Dan Wesson DWX compact, Staccato CS, Wilson Combat EDC X9, CZ Shadow 2 compact. Keep up the great and honest reviews.
@Davidpaulberg1
18 күн бұрын
This is the exact comparo I'd like too!
I really appreciate it when you do thousand round reviews and torture test. It helps me decide on what new gun to get and try.
Yes on the 1,000 rd review . Because I HOPE Kimber listened here , and they change the rear sight configuration . Other than that , this looks like a great gun, and one I am motivated to buy , IF . Your review goes good .
Handled one at a PSA, felt incredible and super smooth. Was going for $1200 at the time… Very interested in a 1k review!!!
Only put about 300ish rounds through mine so far but absolutely perfect. Has been my edc since day one at the range. Hated the cost but must say absolutely worth it!
Must have filmed this on June 6th. We did have high winds yesterday. Good to see a Kimber that was a good starter on it. Thank you Chris!
It looks like a mix of a CZ and a 1911, two amazing pistols! A double stack system and 1911 ergonomics/safety, It's a match made in heaven 🔥
@Dogglegg
23 күн бұрын
CZ/Dan Wesson makes one, but I am not a fan of the weird pinapple grenade grip texture, and wrgos not as good as this one.
@wesmccage
23 күн бұрын
Have the pcr and I’d compare the the two pretty well. The cz pcr shoots a little higher with 115gr, but grip/shooting are very similar. Both shoot much better than the lighter mc p35 lw, but none shoot as accurate for me as the very heavy shadow 2 compact.
Looking forward to the 1000 round review. I saw this one in my LGS and was super impressed.
I have a Kimber, had a few issues after break in. Took it back to the store I purchased it from and they sent it to Kimber and everything was fixed, runs great now and haven't had any issues since.
Always a good day when Outlaw drops🔥🇺🇸
Yes! Yes! Yes! 1,000 round review please. I have Wilson EDC X9, Staccato C2, and Staccato CS along with my Kimber KDS9C and I’m having a really hard time taking anything but the Kimber to the range with me. Your 1,000 round update would be very helpful.
@SteveVall
13 күн бұрын
it outperforms your Wilson EDCX9?
@bronsont7280
13 күн бұрын
Not out performs, but is right on par with it. A more experienced shooter, i.e. Chris, might be able to differentiate the two better than me. Maybe good subject for a video 😊
It's literally the only Kimber that fills me with want. So I'm glad they did a decent job of it.
Thanks for the first shots on this one. I would be interested in the 1000 round review. I've owned a couple of kimbers and have had good luck with mine.
I have finally spent and shot more ammo than I paid for my KDS9C. The gun is a great time and I carry it everyday. I've never seen grown men cry harder than anybody in comment sections under kimber vids. 😅
@shadowprepper9358
23 күн бұрын
Eventually I will get one, next on my list, I edc a custom II in 45acp. Never failed me at abt 6k through her, looking forward to kds9c as primary replacement. Good thing I already stocked up on 9mm
@sirenknight8007
23 күн бұрын
@@shadowprepper9358that’s my personal fav. ;)
I have the stainless. Instantly my favorite range gun. I like the fiber optic front and the trigger has a nice clean break. 👍👍
I’ve put about 800 round through mine so far so good. I stripped it down and lubed it up and polished the ramp. Love the gun.
Comparison to the SFX9 would be cool!
@tylerrodriguez9233
23 күн бұрын
+1 on that
@CrazyLegz72
22 күн бұрын
Love that SFX 9, I would already have one, but I keep spending the money. Lol
@trapperjohn8508
19 күн бұрын
And the DWX Compact.
I'm down to see a 1000+ round review of this thing. This might be the 2011 that bridges the gap between the Springfield Prodigy and the Staccato 2011 pistols.
Great content as always! Definitely go for the 1000, and a compare to CS or SFX9 would be awesome.
@jdub1139
23 күн бұрын
Agree. Gotta do 1000 on this one
@shezy4
23 күн бұрын
WC EDC X9 would be more comparable vs the SFX9
@deatz8997
23 күн бұрын
@@shezy4 Strictly speaking, prolly more between the EDC X9 ver. 2.0; however, my interest is in the difference between the solid frame and the Kimber.
I would love to see a 1000 round review on it. I have the two tone version with a Holosun 407k-GR on it. Had the same issue with removing the plate. Had to tap a torx bit into the screw head with a hammer to get one of the screws out, the Allen head was starting to strip like you experienced.
It seems to be the popular thing to throw shade on Kimber. My Dad, my brother and myself all have Kimber 1911s. We’ve never had any problems with them. I’d say they are great guns. Let’s see that thousand round review and see how this new model stacks up. It sure is a good looking piece
Shooting the lights out man. Nice job
The silhouette of this gun looks like one of the metal framed iwi Jericho's
@johndecker9983
23 күн бұрын
I concur
I have the Kimber KHX Ultra with similar features (3" barrel). Looks super sharp with the unique "honey comb" style cut outs on the slide. Actually, just broke it down and cleaned it earlier today! Zero complaints thus far, Houge laser grip is sweet, plus the fiber optic sights front and back are definitely nice. Simi🫵lar in size as a 43X for CC, but with the 1911 flare... Love my glocks, but this definitely kicks ass 🤘
I’m sold, was on the fence about buying this model but now I’m pretty certain I’ll be getting one. Thanks for the honest review
I have a Kimber 1911 and I love that thing, however, it's only an 8 shot. I wish they made a DS 1911 full size, but I am interested in this one. Please do a full 1000 round review on this, could be my next EDC
@Dogglegg
23 күн бұрын
You can use 9-10 round mags, but don't use Kimber mags. Get Wilson Combat ones. Adding a magwell (from Brownell's by Wilson Combat) really improves a single-stack 1911.
@BestDefenseFirearms
23 күн бұрын
@@Dogglegg Anything less than 15 rounds just doesn't do it for me anymore. I'm so used to shooting 15 - 20 pistol rounds and 20-30 rifle rounds. I feel like i get into a better rhythm. 7/8 rounds is over too quickly. But I will definitely look into the Wilson Combat mags
@Dogglegg
23 күн бұрын
@@BestDefenseFirearms If you are training for self-defense, 3-5 rounds is typical, and is over in seconds - usually upon the first hit. Misses don't stop gunfights, no matter how many you have in yer box-o-bullets. Hits end gunfights. Check Active Self Protection for thousands of example vids of this.
Yep. I’d love to see how it holds up! I’m intrigued
Due to Kimber's questionable reputation I would like to see a 1,000 rd review.
Considering this, 1000 rd review please, love you two
Yes to the 1k round review! I don't own one but I handle it daily at work (I work at an ffl) and it's by far the smoothest and nicest kimber imo. We don't have this version yet, but I literally just had a person ask me about this version yesterday and here drops the HO video on it.
I've seen these go for close to $1,600 where I live... Really nice overall! Every review I've seen on these have been really good. I personally would love to add the rail version to my collection.
I was looking at this gun last week. I was impressed. I vote for a 1000 round review
Yes please 👍 more of this Kimber. Thks
Yes I would like to see a thousand round reviuew, and perhaps a vs BUL armory equivalent
1000 round review!!! I'm finally interested in a Kimber. I've heard nothing but horror stories, so I've never wanted one before now.
@hajili311
23 күн бұрын
I have a stainless II and they are great guns man, I’ve put in 500+ rounds with 0 malfunctions, don’t listen to all the internet hate, they most likely have never owned one. Just make sure she’s oiled and buy some good mags and she will treat you well!
@codyduncan6801
22 күн бұрын
I appreciate the input. It isn't just internet hate though. It's the fact that everyone selling 1911s or returning 1911s are overwhelmingly from Kimber. I'd say around 80% or greater based on what I'm hearing from shops and smiths. It doesn't inspire confidence, plus I prefer 9mm and double stack mags since I'm a capacity whore. Lol
Have two Kimbers and they have been excellent.
I got my no rail one last year for 1100 from palmetto State armory. Rail version should cost 1500+. Absolutely love mine. Just can't wait for aftermarket parts
The screw issue is not one off. My version went back to factory to get screws fixed. Yes to a 1k review.
Kimber KdSc rail is 🔥🔥🔥
It’s on my bucket list! Hope to have one , one day! Love the look! At half the price of a Wilson !
I have two Kibler's , and have good luck with them. This one is cool!
Hi Chris, thanks for the time, effort, and money you put into your videos. I enjoy them. I personally would like to hear more of your thoughts on this firearm. This is a firearm that I have been considering, and trying to get as much information as possible before spending the dough. If you can’t, I sincerely appreciate the first shots video. Best of luck in your future endeavors.
I would love to see another review on this pistol! It’s definitely on my wishlist!!
Would love to see a review of the new Bul Armory Tac 4.25" 2024 version.
@xtreme4stringbass
23 күн бұрын
Checkout the Humble Marksman. One of the best on YT.
@VinnySem1972
23 күн бұрын
@@xtreme4stringbass I have! Watch him regularly. Just wanted Chris' take on it as well.
My first 1911 was an older Kimber Pro TLE/RL in 45ACP it and it is a sweet gun. I love it so much that I got a Wilson Combat Professional. I've alwayd wanted a 1911 in 9mm. My buddy has this gun and after firing it I put my old Kimber on consignment to get one. I'd like to see something to go full 1000. My buddy's seem to have feed ramp issues. Granted some polishing might deal with it. I was getting some last round no hold open when I ran it. I asked about it and he stated he hadn't cleaned it. I chalked it up to not being in cleaned in well over 700+ rounds which I'd never do as a 1911 owner.
Nice would love to see a 1000 round review of the kimber ds 1911. And holeie shit you are fast with any gun brother you sir put some rounds down range wish i could afford to shoot as much as you do
Yes do the 1000 round review. I’ve had one for about a year and while finicky with some ammunition (Remington mostly) it has been reasonably reliable if lubed.
I used to have a Kimber custom Gold Match 2, I liked it a lot.
Kick ass. I think the price is down quite a bit by now, Kimber makes solid guns! This is the one I've been waiting for! I used to carry 1911 but my eyes got old and I had to transition to an optic which at the time meant G19 MOS only. We've had more companies produce optics ready guns since then but thank gosh the 1911/2011 companies are catching on! I'm eager to acquire one but it'll be a few more months. There's nothing more accurate with a flash sight picture than a good 1911.
Love mine !
I picked up one at the gun store, slide felt really rough, I know some oil would go a long way with helping that, but just felt cheap compared to the C2. I will stick with my Staccato for 3 to 4 hundo more. Thanks as always for your great videos and opinions.
Please do the 1000 round review ! I was going to buy this , but I didn’t know much about it, I went and got a czp10f instead . I would appreciate the thousand round review so I can go out and purchase one with confidence . Thanks ! I love your channel!
I would like to see a 1000 round review, you said Kimber has a spotty Q/A record. I would like to see a full 1000 review to test that theory. Personally all of my Kimbers have run great.
Definitely interested in a 1000rd review! Considering trialing a commander size 2011 for EDC rotation and with the going price for these on gunbroker right now being just over 1200, this is definitely getting some strong consideration. Thanks!
Im really considering purchasing this gun, I’d love to watch a thousand round review!
Thanks for this review. Would love to see you run a thousand rounds through this Kimber!
So far I've owned 3 1911 Kimbers in 45, they have not gave me any issues so far. As to their mags I have had some issues here and there. Upgrading to some WC 1911 mags and hopefully should do the trick.
Yes, 1,000 round review please!
Let's see the 1000 rd vid love your takes on gun ty for being honest😊
Yes. 1000 rd review. Thanks outlaws.
Couldn't afford a Kimber if I wanted one, but I appreciate the video. It's good to know and I enjoy watching you and your wife shoot together. WISH my wife didn't HATE ( be scared of) firearms. Keep making great content brother. Appreciate you.
@HWG-wm8ld
23 күн бұрын
Divorce is your only option
@sirenknight8007
23 күн бұрын
@@HWG-wm8ld😂
Please do a 1,000 Round Review. Outstanding Video!
Kimber makes some nice stuff.. Got my wife the R7 mako per your review and she quit carrying her P365 for it
Yes, I'd like to see you shoot this pistol on a less windy day. Nice looking piece of artillery. Thousand round review, Yes Please!
I'd like to see a 1000 rd review on this gun IF>>> the iron sight screws are repaired...and that subject is addressed properly by Kimber... I started shooting Kimbers while over seas in Al Quiam IRAQ supporting the Marines (I flew a targeting UAV) still have that .45acp shoots great.
I would love to see a comparison to a staccato and a 1k round review. Also wish this was out when I got my own 2011.
@garyokie4893
22 күн бұрын
Why do people always want to compare crap guns to a Stacatto? Please spare us. Maybe compare it to a $300 Taurus.
@heckoffcommie4182
5 күн бұрын
The Taurus is at least drop safe unlike the staccato lol.
Looking forward for the 1000 round review
Definitely do a 1000 Rd review, I am really interested in buying one so I want to see what the long term durability is for this pistol. I own the Alpha Foxtrot S-15 1911 which is an amazing pistol very durable. I have 2800 Rds through it so far with no malfunctions.
Always enjoy your reviews. Loved the bee comment. I would love to see a 1000 round review. I was thinking about getting this or the original and decided to go with the Platypus.
I bought one because it fits my hand and grip. Damn nice gun
Nice job even in the wind
This seems like a good double stack 1911. I’d like to see the 1000 review and comparison to the Wilson Combat EDC X9
Your humor is on point, always puts a smile on my face!
@maximusjoseppi5904
23 күн бұрын
What humor there fake account
Full review would be nice.
I own several Kimbers. I'd like to see a 1000 round review. It would also be nice seeing comparison between Kimber & Springfield. I've wanted on of these since they came out, however 2k is a tough pill to swallow these days.
I love watching your videos as they are always informative and I also like seeing Mrs.Outlaw shooting the different firearms and giving her opinion on them. Also I missed it what was the caliber on this gun? 45?
I have three Kimber's they are fantastic. I have never had an issue with any of them. Would love to see the 1K review. PS I dont think I would trust a 2011 under $1200.
Please Do a 1000 Round Review!!!
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I have a kimber Raptor 2 in stainless. I got it due to how limited our options are in California and Honestly thought the gun looked amazing. The 1st range trip my front sight fell off. I will say kimber fixed it pretty quick. The other issue I had was that the trigger was literally cutting my finger. I asked for them to do something about that and nothing was.
I would love to see a 1000rd review!!
Nice piece!
I actually own this before the Honest Outlaw family (achievement 1 😂). I paid $1400 for this (achievement 2😮). I already am incredibly satisfied with this firearm. Style, price point, performance. Only negative, it does have some MIM in it. In time, I will correct this through Atlas Gunworks. I am still pretty blown away by the SDS MAC 9 DS-No MIM. My hands are a perfect size for MAC 9 DS (tightly braced against the mag well). Some failure to feeds during break-in. Polished the feed ramp and "slightly" adjusted the trigger down to 3.5 and WOAH... I am going to run these against each other. Will be fun!
Would love to see a 1000 round review on this pistol!
Yes 1000 round review please
1000 round review please. Also would love to see an optic on there if you can get the screw out.
Looks amazing, hope the quality holds up and no malfunctions
yes please do a 1,000 round review of this gun. I really like the looks and if it holds up well I very much would like to buy one
@indycharlie
23 күн бұрын
Ditto !
Another great video champ.
1000 Round review 🔥🔥🔥
1000 round review and more distance!