Man, I miss Dust 514.

@antonysmith7518

14 күн бұрын

OMG SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dust 514 was a great concept. Hopefully this takes it to a higher level.

@rock2k14

Ай бұрын

Given that DUST 514 was a Combined Arms Warfare game and this is just another generic Extraction Shooter, they aren't even the same Genre's, I would have loved a new DUST 514 that wasn't crippled by being put on a platform exclusive of a console at the end of its life, but this is not it.

@Jake-yf3gv

Ай бұрын

Dust 514 was actually good and fit the vibe of Eve a bit better than this. The death knell was the whole "You know how our player base is PC, let's make this PS exclusive on the final cycle of the current generation" Absolutely mind boggling decision there. Take Planetside scope, make that in an EvE universe. There, I made you a kickass game ccp. Nobody wants to play this shitty tarkov, and this coming from someone who loves EvE online for decades.

@xXYannuschXx

20 күн бұрын

@@Jake-yf3gv "You know how our player base is PC, let's make this PS exclusive on the final cycle of the current generation." - using an engine that is known for running horribly on said console. I REALLY have no idea what they were thinking at the time.

Thanks for bringing some attention to this game! For all of us that played Dust 514 while it was out it's great to see CCP coming back to it, and I hope they stick the landing this time. EDIT: Okay, having watched to the end of the video now, I can tell you from having been in all but the earliest of the playtests they've done that the concept has already evolved a good amount over the past few months. The devs have been really active on the EVE Discord and are now being even more active in the new EVE Vanguard Discord, and it's been really nice to see feedback we gave taken into account already. They recently released a new InFocus video that goes deeper into what they want the game to eventually be which I think you might find intriguing.

@AysoXD

Ай бұрын

YO DUST 514 was epic on ps3, glad its get a successor of sorts

@adamc_vp77

Ай бұрын

Dude I remember playing that on the ps3, wasn't a hardcore player but still loved the feel of it

@Texasmule

Ай бұрын

I still have DUST 514 downloaded on my ps3

@replaysettings

Ай бұрын

I loved Dust so much because I loved watching videos about Eve and it was just always beyond me but I love seeing the stories about Eve and getting the brief opportunity to play Dust felt like I was finally part of it lol. I was just a kid then but Dust 514 was such a cool moment in gaming history.

I loved dust514! So many forms of customization and playstyles! Great game

Without at least Planetside 2-level scale it will never feel as an Eve game.

@rock2k14

Ай бұрын

Yea, I don't get why people compare this to DUST 514, they aren't even the same genre, I would have loved a new Combined Arms Warfare game not crippled by being stuck as an exclusive to a console at the end of its life, what they giving everyone is Tarkov, entirely different genres and completely lacks the scale that EVE needs.

@Unknown_Genius

Ай бұрын

@@rock2k14 tbf, the whole concept of Dust 514 sounded great back then but after further thinking about it it just didn't make any real sense and most things were never implemented (and would have literally killed what was left of the product if they did). I see why they make an extraction shooter this time given that it generally doesn't precisely draw a low amount of players. Do I see it go anywhere as a former long term EvE player? Not really honestly, PvPvE extraction sounds like a concept that fits a shooter focused around (and directly connected to) EVE perfectly fine, but I highly doubt that it'll somehow be more successful at achieving what Dust was supposed to achieve, let alone survive if they'd try to implement every cross interaction they wanted for a shooter.

@Trivagoski

Ай бұрын

@@Unknown_Genius how an extraction shooter fits EVE?

@CrusstySculpture

Ай бұрын

​@Trivagoski how does it not? You could fit most styles of shooters into the universe quite easily

@Unknown_Genius

Ай бұрын

@@Trivagoski The bigger question would be if you ever actually played EVE (or at least half of its content) if you need to ask that.

God i miss Dust 514, the multiplayer was so bloody fun

I remember the old ps3 game Dust 514. It was fun and i was sad to see it die

“Extraction shooter” well there goes any interest I may have.

I need DUST 514 AGAIN. VEHICLES ALL OUT WAR IN A DARK STARK HIGHLY ADVANCED SCIFI UNIVERSE!!! I NEED IT AND ITS NOT "HALO"

Imagine if they made a planetside type game instead of a dumb extraction shooter. Should have just taken Dust 514 and fixed it.

>cool art style and graphics >interesting looking gunplay >"extraction shooter" yeah ok nevermind

Like most of the population, I don’t think you’ll ’get it’ right away, Level. This game is a spiritual successor to Dust 514 from back in the day on PS3, the community would love the devs to make the game the same as Dust 514 and then improve on it but in order to appeal to a wider audience it needs to be more than that. If the suits, weapons and vehicles come back, the Dusties will be happy (and they need to fix the tram system too!), but in order for it to become sustainable they will probably need something like microtransactions to move it along. This won’t be the game ‘we’ want it to be for a few years at least so like me, I imagine most will just lurk in the background until there’s a heavy suit, a forge gun and a minigun as well as a smattering of vehicles and then dive in. Us folks that used to play every single day now have kids and houses to run so it will take something special to claw us back. We’ll be keeping half an eye out though so hopefully see you on the battlefield in 2025.

Was looking forward to this since I loved dust 514 but lost interest when I found out it was an extraction shooter

@beltempest4448

Ай бұрын

Right!?

As someone with 5K hours in EVE and thousands in FPS like Tarkov and Valorant why they didn’t go a looter shooter route with realistic abilities is baffling to me. Why can’t I just be a foot soldier fighting for one of the factions and just do missions and loot with items linked to the EVE economy with a compelling story. Maybe we get sent on an operation here and there and have access to weapons of a frigate in low orbit for support. A mix of Halo ODST, The Division and a bit of Warframe but set in the EVE universe. This game looks so generic it’s insane. Extraction Shooter what a joke man.

@quadrapodacone

Ай бұрын

EvE is dead.. we all moved to Star Citizen.

@johnpauljonesisabadass8134

21 күн бұрын

​@@quadrapodacone joke of the century.

@friendlygamergang4293

14 күн бұрын

Honestly? Because if you tie it too closely to EVE you limit its appeal. EVE is a decent-sized MMORPG, but it pales in comparison to big MMORPGs. CCP want a lot of players, not just a small % of EVE players who might play a shooter. They're obviously making Vanguard as a cool standalone experience for people who don't give a shit about EVE. Might not be what EVE players want to hear, but makes perfect sense.

This game feels closer to "The Cycle: Stormachasers" (the alpha version of The Cycle) it makes me happy to see something like that being made once again.

Just say it's an extraction shooter and save some of us the time

I like Dust a lot more….

i used to play dust 514 XD

I've been waiting for this game! Loved dust 514

@blee04524

Ай бұрын

You watched the video? This is nothing like dust

@connorropp4947

Ай бұрын

@blee04524 yeah, I just wanted something in the same universe

Though I'm not gonna play this game, since EVE has been a thing in the past for me, I do hope CIG checks this out and learn good things from it. For example, the concept of orbital strike from Dust 514 was so cool! Imagine Javelin or Bengal can bombard from the orbit, would be epic!

I remember playing dust 514 on ps3 till still day it's one of the best free to play games on ps3 till this day

Wait. Bro the concept/idea for EVE 514 is top tier. I need games like that and Planetside 2 and more shit like that where it's like galactic war real time. Fighting on Planets and those Battles actually have concrete standing within the world. Maybe winning a battle means that the highest ranking group could rule over the planet in some way.

Of course, an attraction shooter.

On the Dust 514 note, I always felt like having a FPS portion as well as a possible fighter pilot role, tied into the EVE mmo was a missed opportunity. If any mmo could do it, I believe Eve could.

It looks like a typical extraction, but it is pretty cool in concept. Imagine knowing real players/clan on EVE is hiring you below to get things done for them etc.

Oh....oh god no, oh honey...no. Another dust 514 ending inbound.

Chip Set customization is intriguing, reminds me a bit of Destiny 2 weapon upgrades. Yet unlike Destiny 2, the lack of weapon diversity alone is a dead on arrival for me.

We’re so back!!!!

When I see LevelCap or JackFrags talk about a new game: Release Date: 2090 *In 2090*: This game is out now as a tech demo that never stops being a buggy dumpster fire.

DOA. People want cool weapons and gear. Not chipsets.

1:42 I don't remember giving them permission to use my gameplay

@beltempest4448

Ай бұрын

You don’t own footage you make of their game. It will be there in the user agreement. You gave them permission when you accepted the agreement.

@Daark_Karma

29 күн бұрын

They don't require you're permission Same with every game. Any content you make from a game can be used by the game's company to further their own advertising.

@Potato_n_Tomato

25 күн бұрын

Bruh why are people acting so serious/defensive. He's obviously making a joke since at that moment it was Stormtrooper aim.

@beltempest4448

24 күн бұрын

@@Potato_n_Tomato you can tell that through a text eh? Your opinion is subjective. Our responses are based on what was actually said.

@Potato_n_Tomato

24 күн бұрын

@@beltempest4448 yeah it's absurdly obvious if you actually watch the clip/time stamp

Dust 514 was great, but failed because it attempted to be console exclusive which segregated the playerbase

@EnigmacTheFirst

Ай бұрын

For real. I can imagine that Dust 514 would've been way more popular if it'd been on PC.

Not sure about the lack of weapons/lack of customization. Kind of underwhelming, but that's just me.

As a hardcore Dust 514 player, I can't say this interests me. I would have expected something similar but better than what Dust 514 was.

I absolutely smashed Dust 514 back in the day (TSOLE 4 Life!). But I kind of like the idea that the playing field will be a bit more levelled. Our Corp was fortunate to have a small piece of the planetary conquest when it was live, but for other players, even dedicated ones, it was a bit demoralizing when they are watching 4 or 5 corps just dominating the space and their efforts were pointless. I only hope that terrain and maps will be a bit more varied and picturesque than what we are seeing in this video. We should be past the brown and grey aesthetic with Unreal Engine 5, and without bosses, beasts or alien NPCs the gameplay could get old real fast.

I HATE the fact that each race wont have its own unique play style like in Eve and DUST. Minmitar used projectiles, amarr lasers ect ect Dust 514 seems superior in combat and flow of game. I do like this new pvpve mix of the extraction shooter however.

@MidnightWyvern

Ай бұрын

So a WHILE back they actually showed off concept art of at least one rifle for each race, but this time it's not just race but Corporations, so you'll have different styles of weapon for each race based on what Corporation makes it. They showed off a Gallente Plasma gun, the Minmatar gun you see in game which fires bullets, a Caldari gun that uses a chemical cartridge to 3D print railgun ammo for itself, and an Amarr laser rifle that looks like more of an art piece than a gun. So a good representation of how each race does guns. The current gun in Vanguard looks EXACTLY like that old concept art, so it's a safe bet that's what we're going to see for the other three.

I played Dust 514 at ps3 - it was damn hard. Loved it!

I played Dust 514 before and it was a pretty game hopefully Vanguard will be even better.

I wish so badly I could go back to 2014 and play a few Dust 514 matches

Played dust 514 on the ps3 back in the day. I played it so much even tho it was limited by demo because i didn't have money and wanted to play more but seeing it go sucks. I was shocked to see eve trying again to say the least

AngeL06_Legion reporting for duty. Meow Meow! dust still the best. i missed that game.

I remember playing Dust 514 and having such a harsh tjme playing it. I simply couldnt kill anyone and kept dying a lot 😅

They should have just made a massive update of DUST with UE5 makes way more sense plus there would already be a community

@friendlygamergang4293

14 күн бұрын

The thing is that DUST closed because the playerbase was too small. You can argue that it's because of reason X or reason Y, but that's why it closed. So them just bringing it back for that small playerbase wouldn't make sense. They're trying to reach a bigger playerbase, one that warrants its development cost.

I need Dust 514 to come back. I've never seen another game like it.

Hope they bring Heavies back with the HMG and don't need it out of existence 😂

This video needs more views. As someone who plays eve still and has now for 17 years, the failure of dust was sad, but needed. It allowed ccp to fix a lot of stuff related to the Eve universe. Now is the best time to launch a new shooter. I hope many people try it.

Cool looking, but it's just like every other FPS extraction concept out there.

ah welp. lost me at extraction shooter. looked cool

Im gonna say: the fact EVEo is still alive is baffling to me.

@yous2244

Ай бұрын

Uts an amazing game. Watch Eve Online:Down the Rabbit Hole

Pretty excited for this.

Great, another DoA extraction shooter. This fad ended a while ago, why cant devs let it die.

@davidmoyer1168

Ай бұрын

I am also incredibly disappointed, 514 was the first online shooter I've played, and it's so disappointing that this is just more extraction shooter slop. I really hate modern AAA gaming

@yous2244

Ай бұрын

What does DoA stand for

@geddybear9108

Ай бұрын

@@yous2244 dead on arrival

@yous2244

Ай бұрын

@@geddybear9108 lol, that explains nothing. What does it mean though.

@yous2244

Ай бұрын

@@geddybear9108 do you mean uts bad?

Felt like a watched a add for something i don's care about. But love LevelCap so we watch annyways

Ahh, another "let's try and cash in on the extraction shooter hype" game...

So it’s like the cycle frontier… nice

i hope that they bring back suits, i want my calmando back

The whole game takes place on a rock.

Ayo... it's Dust

I like Extraction games.....but this doesnt fit the Eve Universe. They should have stuck with Planetside/Battlefield style gameplay. We really need a game to fill the void by no new Battlefield 2043. Large scale battles, Orbital ships to call in reinforcements. I briefly tried Dust and only vaguely remember it being similar to Killzone, which I liked, so they should build on that and make a 128 player Battlefield style game set in the Eve Universe

I mean, I like exatraction shooters, but bigger and better Duat 514 on Pc would have been more unique and preferable.

There’s a shit ton of extraction shooters out there. Unless they leverage their player base somehow, it’ll be a ghost town.

Heavy destiny / halo vibes

I honestly think they should be going down the route of taking up directly from where Dust left off. The probes with Dust was it was PS3 exclusive. Which made no sense for a game directly connected to a PC space MMO. This game will flop. It’s doing absolutely nothing interesting. A massive space ground war sim connected to EVE online would be much much more interesting. This looks really quite basic. Why they think copying Tarkov is a good idea makes no sense, when they should be pickup up from BF and Planetside

So Cycle Frontier on steroids!

Hopefully this time CCP doesn't do something moronic like make it a console exclusive. I was an active Eve player back in 2009 and was really looking forward to Dust 514, as was the rest of the corp I was in. It later being reveled to be a PS3 exclusive killed basically all interest we had it in since we were all PC players and as far as I know none of them ever even tried it when it launched.

@Unknown_Genius

Ай бұрын

Nah, it'll release on Windows. But we knew back then that Dust would be PS3 exclusive long beforehand tho, as they always said that we'll be able to transport console players to their operations on the ground as well as delivering ressources. And I'm kinda glad that they never fully implemented all those "crossplay" features they wanted (like the transportation), it would've killed Dust within 2 days of its release if half of your playtime is sitting in a loading bay or something and waiting for someone to fly you 20 jumps to the next planet, or at best wait even more because it's in low sec and no one wants to fly there/they get shot down, at best with only one team getting ressource supplies by a huge corp gate keeping.

It looks cool but you lost me when you said extraction shooter. I hear that too often nowadays. 😂

i kinda hope there will be a pure pve version i have friends who dont like pvp

Will this be in John Wick,

@austintrain1314

Ай бұрын

Underrated comment.

So we get a famas with mods. Not the most impressive weapon design.

An fps with only two distinct guns. Yeah, that's not gonna work

so, helldivers in first person?

This game doesn't look bad but I don't see anything that seems unique or special. Looks like the type of game you play for a few weeks then never again, like so many other games.

N Ot paying monthly

Dust 514 ran for 6 years as a beta

I would rather play The First Decendant over this, it seems slow, and I love how fast TFD combat is so far.

Another extraction shooter😩

You only get 2 guns?

I am unsure how any amount of rose-coloured glasses could say that Dust514 was a decent game, it was utterly busted in almost every way, from lag to hit collision to insane bugs and a broken economy model. I REALLY gave a good solid go and it was just terrible.

@austintrain1314

Ай бұрын

It was a fantastic game. Steep learning curve, though. (And yeah, some pretty terrible performance issues too).

Another game lost to the extraction shooter genre. Nothing wrong with it, it's just not for me. Certainly feels like there are fewer games I want to play though

i remember playing on ps3 the other free2play game some years ago, one of the most dissapointong experiences that i remember, this lools exactly the same, why the map is only rocks and spaceship scrap? i see the same game

Is anyone else tired of hearing interesting concepts for games just for them to be an extraction shooter?

Tested it a few months back, it was terribly clunky.

Ow look .. an other extraction shooter. I love my spreadsheet game but this feels like it will fail like the dust514 that from the starts made the mistake of being ps exclusive because it was so trendy back than ... like how extraction shooter right now is getting out of date

Yawn 🗿

Still need a Matimio/Levelcap Helldivers 2 play through video. time's a wasting....

Dust 515

so star citizen.. but lacking lol they need to take notes from them

Lost me when you said extraction shooter goodbye

Extraction shooter..so no vehicles? basically only 1 gun? ....ill pass lol

It could be cool. But what is the current obsession with extraction shooters? It feels like the battle royale trend all over again. Like the market is too saturated right now.

DUST 514 was my favourite game. My friends and I all it miss it daily. Had they simply left the PS3 servers active (or ported it to PS4/5) we would still be playing it now. This 'new' game looks like absolute trash. EVE players may not like to hear this, but an FPS game needs to be on console to maximise the player base. No reason for it not to be cross-platform, though. Every other game is nowadays. CCP, please just make DUST again, not this Destiny clone.

So what even is the point of the game, you just fight to upgrade the one same gun?

They aren’t going the route of Dust514 so nobody cares

god this game looks like such hot garbage, dust was a good game, crippled by being a console exclusive, because, y'know, let's take a game set in one of the most notoriously complex universes that only the most hardcore PC players even wanna play, and put it on a platform, that usually attracts only the most casual gamers. They literally did it to themselves, and dust could've easily still been alive i think if they had just released it on any decent platform.

Im sorry but I really do see the weapon chip thing as a way for them to be lazy lmao. And also ANOTHER extraction shooter? Getting really tired of that type of game already

Kinda disappointingly low-tech in lore terms. Given the state of technology up in space, the idea of a handful of dudes with fairly modern-looking tiny pewpews doing anything of even passing significance is a bit laughable. It's like, "Good job, you did the thing, you ran a few metres and pewpew'd that guy. In the time it took you to reload, three ships blew up in orbit, hundreds of thousands of crew lost in an instant, and someone pressed a button to glass everything from orbit." I mean even if they had battles that were reminiscent of Planetside 2 or Warhammer 40k, it still... doesn't really mesh with the Eve setting. There should be crazy mechs and swarms of drones at the very least. Kinda feels like sci-fi has got itself stuck in a bit of a rut lately. Looking at the presentation of technology in Elite: Dangerous and Star Citizen - FTL travel... and yet, little pewpews, space suits, that "corporate chic" vibe with carbon fibre and little white arrows on things... What happened to the days of weird organic technology, and "indistinguishable from magic" stuff?

This is so less impressive than DUST514 I mean the loadouts and weapon build ring looked way better than this mess lol.

Ah christ another extraction looter shooter. Man I love Tarkov but now that the trend is clearly in full swing. I'm over it, these have no staying power at all. Except for Tarkov.

lost me at "extraction shooter"

The whole weapon upgrade system seems lame to me

Sounds like a random collection of features. Nothing about it stands out. I don't think this will take for non EVE online players.