Hey Steve, that's really nice!! Always got room for improvement! Thanks for sharing 😃

Hey Steve - keep up the great work. Truly enjoying my horizontal hive my husband and I picked up from you a couple years ago. The bee's love it and so do I. Thanks again, Barbara

@SilentDeath002

2 жыл бұрын

your welcome. i might even have enough time to build myself a few after my next surgery. hope you and the bee's have a great summer

Beautiful looking hives. Excellent work!

@SilentDeath002

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ethan, after i get all my medical problems taken care of , i hope i can get back in the shop, i only have one double deep left available, need to make some more.

it's looking good Sir! I wish i could shake your hand one day.

Okay, thanks just read where I can get plans,I really like your design

@brajboro

3 жыл бұрын

please share I'm interested in plans thanks friend

Hiya Steve (SD). Great to see you are still well. TinMan.

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

nice to hear from you again. i hope every thing is going well.

I find it interesting how you can never stop adjusting these hives. There is so many uses and options that you can always improve on. I think my next one will be for making nucs.

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

hey, if ya want, ill send ya the spec's on the frames i made for it just let me know

@brajboro

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilentDeath002 Yes, as I commented above, I would like, and Im also interested in the natural cut comb style frames looking forward to understand your expert design. and bee space

@what_Love_Drew_forth

Ай бұрын

@BuckeyeHuntingAndFishing Did he ever send you those plans. It's been quite a while since he has been back on KZread and I am not sure if we will see him anytime soon. I would love to see those plans he spoke of.

Nice job getting the deeps together. I’ve heard and disagree with those who would say you can’t get the bees past the mid bar in winter and so they’ll die. With a strong colony this won’t be an issue. And strong colonies going into winter are the genetics we want anyway. Now if you could figure a way to separate the frames when there’s honey, you’re in business

@SilentDeath002

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Bob, happy 4th of july. i have figured out the problem with the frames coming apart, just have not made them yet, using a sliding dovetail joint on parts of the frames will allow them to come apart and still fit in a extractor.

@beebob1279

2 жыл бұрын

@@SilentDeath002 Now that's an idea. No screws to deal with. Just a little propolis and then they slide. I like that a lot. Now coming up with the way it will work is the next step. Keep us posted. Happy 4th of July.

Hello everyone. We will be doing some R&D to test out two different types of frames were the upper and lower area of the frames can slide apart and will fit into a standard extractor. one version will use a sliding dovetail type joint and the other ill use a T-Slot joint. This should be pretty interesting. ill try to post some videos as time permits. we are very busy filling orders for these Horizontal hives.

Would you be willing to sell plans for the hive? Shipping would be insane to me. But I’d definitely buy your frames and have them shipped!

Do you have any plans for construction that you could share on your page

Man!! I wish we were neighbors!!

Great hives! Just wondering how you extract the honey from the long frames?

@SilentDeath002

2 жыл бұрын

the current design of frames used were requested to be for cut comb product. in the future i am working on frames that will slide apart using a sliding dovetail joint. will take a little R&D to get them just right

SD, since your investing so much into the cost already. Have you thought about making the legs cedar? Or have you found the pine/fur to be good enough to last while testing?

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

i make the wood match thru out the hive, and yes i make both types pine and cedar. wood cost are crazy here. pine is thru the roof and cedar, well its at another level above lol. i know what your thinking cedar will last longer. but i have a certain sealer i use that will take care of the problems, made by a company called vermont, i use caspian clear, you can get it thru amazon, about 89.00 a gallon, put two heavy coats on legs and end grain, make sure you get second coat on before first dry's or it will not penetrate. best sealer on the market in my opinion, i use it on all my hives, after years they still look like they just come off the show room floor.

@DuaneMckenzie80

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilentDeath002 its got good reviews, ill check it out. Unfortunately like wood, it's price has gone up as well.

Newbie to bee keeping here. How do you use the double frame with the standard honey extractor? I was thinking they slide the single frame down into the extractor then afterwards start the spinning???

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

Morning Suzanne,, the frame foundations can pop out and be placed into another frame, i am working on a new frame design which will make this much easier, the way the current frames are made is a choice a friend made because he wants to produce natural comb and cut it and place it into containers to sell. This type of hive produced tons of resources that can be used to strengthen other hives or start new ones. i have been getting videos sent to me from people that have purchased my horizontal hives , and every one of them have said the hives explode in numbers and resources. fairly soon we will be attaching a video section to our web page so you can see some of the customers hives and how well they are doing. so far, everything is exceptional. Here is a link to our web page hunterhives.com/

Steve, beautiful hive. I’m just curious how to harvest those frames? Will they fit in a extractor that spins? Thanks, Tim.

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

those frames shown in the video were requested to be built that way for making cut comb, they shipped without foundation. i am working on a new design that will hold deep foundations but the center comes apart so you can place the honey comb in another frame to go into the extractor. will be very easy to make those, just need to finish all the surgeries i have scheduled first.

@Idahodeerslayer

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for getting back to me and good luck with your surgeries.

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

@@Idahodeerslayer thanks Tim, i have 9 more surgeries left to go, then hopefully i can get back to building hives. i got all the measurements worked out for the double deep frames already. just cant stand up long enough for now

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

hi Tim. we have come up with a design were the upper and lower frame actually slides apart using a sliding dovetail joint. we are still in the R&D stage getting it perfected. its funny most of the people want the initial frame design because they want to go natural comb. will be nice to be able to offer either one but will take some time. horizontal hive orders have gone crazy but so has the increase in the cost of wood now, we had to raise prices to keep up and cover cost, anyway, just letting ya know we solved that problem with the frames , see ya!

@Idahodeerslayer

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilentDeath002 Steve, I hope your surgeries went well. I have been to DR. Leo Sharashkins site and he sells an extractor made in Europe that can accommodate Layens frames. Do you make a Layens hive? I would love to have a Layens hive with screened bottom and trays, and gabled roof. Just wondering what your thoughts are about Layens vs double deep langstroth . Also, what are your delivery times looking like right now? I would like to put in an order. Thanks, Tim.

I thought it was a good idea until I thought how was I going to extract honey. The frames won't fit in my extractor. I plan to buid a couple horizontal hives this winter but i believe I will just do a single deep.

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

i hope your build works out perfect for you. We are working on a frame design that will allow the foundations/comb to be removed and put into a extractor. this first design we showed was requested to be of that style because he wanted natural full comb to cut and put into containers. ill show ya the other design frames in a future video, happy holidays !!

We have had to adjust the cost of all our hives again. all the suppliers we use have increased there prices way to much. i sure wish the prices would go back down.

@dasfarm8

3 жыл бұрын

Ya a green treat 2x4 is about $10 at menards Your double deeps probably worth more than your pickup right now

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

@@dasfarm8 no kidding, i picked up some material on a monday, processed the wood that day, got more orders on tuesday so i went to get that material and prices jumped up over 10.00 for the length of material i wanted and had just bought. pretty much price gouging i think

@dasfarm8

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilentDeath002 it’s a racket for sure.

@DuaneMckenzie80

3 жыл бұрын

Nice build. I bet you could make a beautiful tool box , if so inclined. On the wood cost. Thinking it maybe about time to buy a bandsaw mill and get to work. If prices stay this high, wouldnt be to hard to make the money back real quick.

Should have just built a Layens hive. Much better for the bee's in my opinion. No center bar in the middle of the frame, and gives them a surface to to build a complete circle brood pattern with no interference. Just my opinion. And I build my own hives and frame's. They are all 19 frame hives,and my first summer of beekeeping and I have 2 Layens and 2 langstroth horizontals and of my layens are completely full. The langstroth are about 1/4 full. I love the layens hives and obviously so do the bee's.

The link doesn’t work anymore. Do you have to plans available for this double deep?

Are you still building horizontal hives, and if so how do I order one and where would I have to go to pick it up? Thank you

@SilentDeath002

3 ай бұрын

My health took a turn for the worst and can not even stand at all let alone walk. you can find the basic plans at horizontal hive .com to make the main box and legs. from that and watching my videos you can copy from that

I had an issue using 2 frames together. the wood space between the 2 frames was too much space for the girls and would not break cluster to reach their food in the upper frame. we are trying 2 other methods using double frames. take the top bar off the lower frame. glue the side pieces or router a groove the bottom of the top frame to slide the side pieces of the bottom frame, then glue together. 2. wax the frames where they are joined to imitate foundation.

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

how wide was the part between the frames? we are going to try and use a sliding dovetail joint to attach frames to the top bar and also all frame sections, the side bars will be used to form individual rectangles that can hold each foundation . ill try and show some of these as soon as i can. key is to made the area between frames as thin and see how the bees move between the foundations

@carldaniels4827

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilentDeath002 approximately 1/2", we have also made 36 layen frames with a flat paint stick (cut to size) and waxed for horizontal support. also using #10 fishing line for foundation support instead of wire. using 2 deep frames or layens frames takes the guess work out of questions and lets nature decide how much space the girls need for brood/honey.

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

@@carldaniels4827 Hi Carl ,i made some layens frames also, but decided later to make custom side bars for the double deep to fit a over all frame size of 18 1/8th inch in depth, all matching spec of a normal side bar but much deeper. i figure if we put our ideas together we should be able to solve this small problem and come up with a reliable frame we can count on. have not had them time to work on the new design for now, i am way behind on horizontal hive orders. but should get caught up soon.

@carldaniels4827

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilentDeath002 2 things that you might come across: 1. when you use a dividing board make it a titch shorter, use 2 eye screws on the bottom to allow for better ventilation or use #8 hardware screen to cover some drilled holes for ventilation. 2. you have to consider what type of extractor they will be using to accommodate the frames. crush and strain is an option (for some) but that is a lot of extra or unnecessary work the girls have to do to rebuild the comb. the extractor that dr.leo has fits all frames. from what i have seen on your construction is the precision of craftsmanship, design and detail. i have a friend who is looking for what you are building. if you want, send me your contact information for him to communicate with you. or his email address is robbinscrest@att.net bob robbins

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

@@carldaniels4827 hunterhives.com/ send him the link to my web page, he can contact my sister that way ,i am way to busy with orders to even keep up with you tube comments most of the time

Newbie here and I can't help but notice how does this vary from a Layens hive? Aren't the frame sizes the same?

@SilentDeath002

Жыл бұрын

these frames are a lot wider and deeper then layens

My big question: how to extract w/o damaging comb. Is there an oversized extractor that you recommend?

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

like i stated in the video, these frames were made by request of a individual so he could get cut comb out of them. we are working on a frame design which will allow the foundation to be removed and inserted into another frame for extraction. very simple frame design change, we will be testing it soon

@missouriguy1956

3 жыл бұрын

Horizontalhive.com has an extractor that will handle 3 Layens style frames which I believe are slightly larger than these.

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

@@missouriguy1956 Merry Christmas guy, i saw the one the have there, the new frame design i am working on will make it easy to pop out each foundation and snap into a frame you can put in a normal extractor, just a few bugs i need to work out and should be perfect. the ones i make for this video were a special request, the guy is going natural comb so he can make large amounts of cut comb to sell.

@brajboro

3 жыл бұрын

@@missouriguy1956 I don't think so sir, layens frame 12x14" approx. This double deep would be closer to 18x18" (im generalizing on the dimensions but you guys can do the details or someone will update this with exacts) best of all worlds is as Mr Hunter (and some others have done) which is double deeps which detach or slide apart from eachother. This guy "Strout" , chose to dovetail the bottom of the deep frame so they all slide in and out from one another. excellent and efficient. Useful for both extractor cut comb and the bees are super super happy with this depth and size of hive in general good work folks

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

@@missouriguy1956 i make layens hives also, these double deep frames are longer and wider then layens. the problem will be solved when i work out the frame design. using a sharp knife you can trim around the frame to loosed a foundation fairly easy, slide it into a new frame and attach the bottom like normal and into a extractor it goes. langstroth frames are 19 inches wide, and the double deep frames are 19 x 18 1/16 deep

Where do I get one of your horizontal hives? Please let me know .

@sheilaboleyn3280

2 жыл бұрын

I have tried the link and it doesn't get me any where

@SilentDeath002

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Sheila, i had to shut down the web page until i get all my medical surgeries done, pretty much worked myself to death last year. i do have one completed double deep horizontal completed and it has been stored inside my garage all this time, comes complete with everything in the video i am located between st robert mo and dixon mo, if you want contact info send me a message on face book messanger, thanks steve, hunter hives

With a double brood size frame being fixed together how can a honey exstractor be used?

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

The type of frame shown used in the double deep was requested to be built that way for cut comb production. We are working on a frame set up now that uses a sliding dovetail joint , which the frames can come apart and be put into a extractor. videos of that set up will be online soon.

@eljefe62

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilentDeath002 I would greatly appreciate it if you would answer my emails.

How much honey comes off of a frame and how many bees can live in the hive?

@SilentDeath002

2 жыл бұрын

i have some hives out being tested in two different states, i will post results after first season, so far, everything is going very well with honey production and amount of bee's in the hive

Do you know where I can purchase one of those, that are perhaps smaller?

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Brad , i tried to go to your you tube channel to send you a message. which one are you taking about being made smaller? i custom make hives of all kinds so if you need some thing a particular size just let me know. only problem making them smaller. these fill up very fast. a smaller one would be making swarm cells even faster

@bradgoliphant

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilentDeath002 Thank you so much for getting back with me. I did not get your name-- I'm Brad. As for my channel, I really have not done anything with is yet--so pardon me. What I am looking for is a Horizontal hive that holds (14) DoubleDeep Langstoth frames. (Frames would be 19" wide x 18.5" deep) I am getting back into beekeeping next year after being away from it for over 20 years, and need to start with a single hive. And I need it smaller simply because I don't have a lot of space living here in NYC. Please let me know if this is something you believe you could do for me, and what it might cost me. I'm grateful for your help. The hives I see in this video are amazing. Brad

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

@@bradgoliphant hunterhives.com/ there is a link to our web page. i have no problem building you a custom horizontal hive. i have no idea what the cost would be to ship it. most people drive here to pick there's up. i have sold horizontal hives and regular bee hives to just about every state in the usa. if you can go to the web page and under contact us, send your request that way . my farmes are only 18 1/8th deep, every thing else is the same.

Would u be able to custom make one that holds two deep frames deep and make it so they aren’t double deep but still two frames deep

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

problem doing that is the frame rest area for the second row below, but, anything is possible, would just be a pain trying to move top row out of the way to get to them, reason i made the single frame that holds two deep foundations

@hilltophives7937

3 жыл бұрын

Wanted something easier for honey extracting

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

@@hilltophives7937 Hello Dawson, Horizontal hives make it really easy to work with the bee;s and get honey out easy instead of moving several boxes like a langstroth hive. a good start would be a standard horizontal hive say with 32 frames, instead of trying the double deep for now. the double is in testing phase so i know it will produce a lot of resourses from what my friend says over seas, but to start , would recommend regular horizontal hive. main complaint i get from them is,, bee's grow in numbers really fast so best to keep eye on them so they do not swarm. another reason i built the double deep. plant some mint under the hives or any hive you have also, really does a job on pest, keeps those bugs out of the hive really well.

@brajboro

3 жыл бұрын

@@hilltophives7937 Check out Strout Horizontal bee hive on youtube for an easy solution. Dovetailed deep frames. I think Mr Hunter is working on something similar.

How do I get one, maybe 2, of these?

@SilentDeath002

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Chris, i currently have one double deep horizontal in stock. because of several medical problems i have not been able to do any work in the shop this season. i still have one more surgery to get completed. the horizontal hives are very heavy, shipping would be unbelievable. people have been driving to my location to load them into there own trucks, would recommend at least 4 people to lift it, very heavy. you can contact me thru face book messanger if you want

Can you separate the frames from top and bottom

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

i you happened to look at posting right below this one, i had already answered your question, its in R&D testing, should be done fairly soon

Does this frame complicate honey extraction?

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

the frames are being changed to a set with sliding dovetail joints so they come apart to go into a extractor, still being worked on when i have free time

@KayAteChef

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilentDeath002 Nice. That will be interesting to see.

Where a re you in the usa?

@SilentDeath002

5 ай бұрын

sorry just saw your comment, i had to stop making these hives because of medical problems. if you go to this site horizontal hives .com without the space between you can find the basic design and modify it like i did

Where can I get these I’m not the building type Love to get some .

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

Hello Coz , here is a link to our web page. most people just drive here to pick them up once we let them know there hive is done, we do have a waiting list. just find contact us once you decide which type you would like, my sister handles the admin i do the building and she will let you know what is required to get on list. here is the web page info hunterhives.com/ there is also a price list in a different part of web page and videos to check out

@coziii.1829

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilentDeath002 ok thinks I didn’t see prices but look again I emailed you also

Where are they sold?

@SilentDeath002

6 ай бұрын

sorry Burt i was making them but my health has taken a turn for the worst. what you can do if you have the carpentry tools is go to horizontalhive.com for the basic box design and with a spline joint on bottom of one box and spline joint on top of another box put both boxes together then build the frames to match . if you need further help just send me a message. the roofs are easy to make just contact me

How do you spin the honey out?

@SilentDeath002

2 жыл бұрын

The current frames i made for this test phase is set up to do cut comb from them, later on i plan on doing a sliding dovetail joint set up , where the frames can slide apart to be placed into a extractor

@nobodyimportant7567

2 жыл бұрын

@@SilentDeath002 excellent. I am researching different long Lang builds, I will keep this in mind since I have an extractor.

@SilentDeath002

2 жыл бұрын

@@nobodyimportant7567 good luck with you research. i also make 2 different design Horizontal Hives with peaked roofs. the videos are also on you tube

Hello sir do you have for sale this gives?

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Shalal hitu. ill attach a link to our web page so you can see all the different types of hives we make and there is information on the prices and how to put in a request for us to build you one. here is the link, hunterhives.com/

How much is that double deep?

@SilentDeath002

3 жыл бұрын

they go for 850.00 uses twice as much material as regular horizontal hive does

@brajboro

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilentDeath002 Fair for the nice work youve done and for what it is in labor and materials. Thanks.

Low audio Steve, cannot hear you clearly.

How much ?

@SilentDeath002

2 жыл бұрын

the double deeps go for 850.00

I cannot find any advantage of a horizontal hive over a Langstroth hive.

@brajboro

3 жыл бұрын

Have you listened to Leonid Sharaskin's lectures they are on youtube. That will explain everything. Horizontal is amazing, but really the main thing is the large colony space to begin with. In general horizontal style hives are awesome. We will all get old one day. If you want to be a beek until your old, go horizontal. :) Or in other words, if you dont want to go horizontal early, use horizontal hives :D

@georgebateman4918

3 жыл бұрын

Nice about Choice ‘, you work your Bees your way. Lang’s , Lutzens, Armenian, pick your Own Hive design