I tested both replacement chains (91PX068G and 91VXL068G) and they work well, here is a quick test: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lKVqksGyZtTbiZs.html

@superfreakyricky

Жыл бұрын

What is the exact 18" Oregon bar & chain combo kit you used?

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

@@superfreakyricky in the test here I used Oregon 39272 (A041 mount, 3/8LP pitch, .050" gauge, 18" bar length). Link is here: amzn.to/3CS4MrI

@superfreakyricky

Жыл бұрын

@@CascadesHomestead Thanks! It's hard to get replacement 20" chains here in Canada, like everything nowadays it's on backorder! :)

@styledliving

Жыл бұрын

really curious how this compares to milwaukee and makita's best offerings.

@Nyall

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

KZread, pay attention. This is the only good/real chainsaw comparison video your algorithm has shown me all day.

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jonathan, much appreciated!

@EasilyToxic

Жыл бұрын

Great video here, also worth checking out anything from Project Farm's channel

I have the DeWalt and it's amazing. Just batteries won't last long but it does what I need. I wouldn't cut wood all day with it

@obfuscated3090

Жыл бұрын

I have sometimes but I've many cordless tools and batteries. Cordless saws save my replaced shoulder from pull starting. BTW a useful trick for any saw is run the smallest bar that does the job and enjoy the reduced drag/more power. Long bars can be installed quickly as needed.

Nice to know about chain sizes, alternative chain, also nice to see the description and summary.

Best comparison of these saws I’ve seen. Thank you!

Thank you for a good honest review I bought the Z one kit yesterday

I used mine last week to cut up a large walnut tree over 3 days. I have the 20" and the 16" saws, as well as 10 of the 9ah batteries and 1 of the 15ah batteries. The 20" has a lot of power, but it constantly overheats the batteries where you don't even get a chance to use all the charge. My 16" Dewalt clearly spins at a much faster rpm and doesn't have any of the overheating issues and it also noticeably cut through the walnut much faster. I also noticed the 20" saw uses about half as much oil as my 16" and was clearly a problem as the bar and chain became very hot to the point the chain would stretch. Also, yes the chain was sharp, the oil passages were not plugged, and neither saw ran out of oil. It definitely needs to pump bar oil much faster or it won't last very long under heavy use. I almost bet they used the same pump as the 16", but due to the lower RPM of the 20" saw it pumps proportionally less oil because of it.

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

Hi MQ - have you tried using a thinner oil which might pump easier? During the winter when it gets cold up in the mountains our regular bar oil (Oregon 54-059) gets super thick and won't pump - then we switch to Stihl Winter Grade oil which is a lot thinner. You may want to try a lighter oil, maybe just experiment with a quart of lighter engine oil before buying a big gallon of bar oil.

@MasterQuack14

Жыл бұрын

@@CascadesHomestead Hey! Thanks for the advice, I'll definitely give that a try!

Great review. Best I have come across.. very detailed. Thank you and keep it up..!

@CascadesHomestead

11 ай бұрын

Thanks!!

Thank you for the review and pointing out some cons as well as pros. If I got this one I would spray paint the side plate nuts and spacers with bright a color that contrasts, like light blue, so I can more easily spot them in the dirt.

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

I like that idea, easier to find in the dirt that way!

Nice demo. I got an 18 inch with 3 batteries and will use it as a backup for my Stihl.

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

Yes, we keep a big Stihl for the “all day”-work but for everything else we use the various DeWalts.

very great review!

Great review

Nice comparison

i am planning to buy cordless chainsaw for branches clearing. your review is really helpful.

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

The 91VXL068G and 91PX068G chains will work. Oregon 91 is a 3/8"LP .050 gauge, which is what the OE chain is as well. The PX is the AdvanceCut line, safety chain with chamfer chisel cutters. The VXL is their VersaCut line, NON-safety and larger blued semi-chisel cutters. The VXL is going to give you a bump in performance and longevity, but not being a low-kickback safety chain, I would not recommend for the average user. So go with the 91PX068G.

@CascadesHomestead

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Houston, yup, I ordered both and both seem to be low supply. Will do a test once I have them...

@thehhoff69

2 жыл бұрын

@@CascadesHomestead You can never have enough spare chains. Especially with these LP chains that like to jump more than standard chains.

That thing has some power! I could use one to cut up those "gifts", that my oak, and gum trees drop onto my lawn! Many thanks for the comparison! 🍻

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

It’s a great saw and we use it for all of our mid-size trees. Beats having to mix fresh gas etc. And during storm season (fall) we keep it in the car in case there is debris on the road - no more gas smell in the car :)

Nice to see they improved the damn oil cap and reservior. I have the older version and the new design makes much more sense as does the bolted bar mount.

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

Yup, it's been rock solid so far and my saw is getting a ton of use! Only using the gas Stihl for >20" trunks.

Great review! I got the older version (DCM 575 - 14inch) on sale but was curious about the updated one. Seems like a really nice improvement. They seem to have kept the position of the safety switch for the trigger. That is something I do not like on my saw because it feels really not economical to me. 🙋🏻‍♀️Anna

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

Da stimme ich Dir zu! I wish the safety was more like the typical Stihl switches...

Thank you George Takei for that wonderful review..😊

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

I've been called many things but THAT's a new one LOL

@doctorwu1303

Жыл бұрын

@@CascadesHomestead I was of course referring to your silky smooth voice over..☺️

If you narrated any slower, you would have sounded no different than Morgan Freeman :O Very insightful and thorough video 🙂

Has anyone used the 9.0 Ah (DCB609) battery? How does it compare to the 15 Ah (DCB615)? Does the performance suffer much?

VERY informative most of my curiosity addressed! But... Is the trigger variable speed or just on! If you add the time it took to start the ms261 to the cut time the DeWalt would have won! This video caused me to buy the 20 inch Dewalt. By the way, l own and like an extensively used ms261 which l will keep and continue to use also! My Amish friend has a saw shop he can make the 20 inch loops (chains)

Can you confirm if it has a variable speed trigger or not? I saw another review that said it was just a single speed trigger. That’s a little hard for me to believe since my older 16” dewalt has a variable speed trigger. Thanks for the review!

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

No, it's just a simple On/Off - no variable speed. Honestly, it doesn't matter much, for most cuts you want to go full throttle anyway :)

Great video l am going to buy a 20" Dewalt! HOWEVER you must start the clock when you grab the starter cord. Otherwise you are disregarding a big advantage of the battery saw. But l do appreciate learning several features of the 20" Dewalt!

@CascadesHomestead

5 ай бұрын

That’s a really good point. Shove the battery in and it’s good to go, no mixing the gas, filling it, pulling the starter cord etc. Ready to go in seconds!

I was wondering if this leaks bar oil from sitting, like the 16" version does?

@CascadesHomestead

2 жыл бұрын

I do not see any oil leaking out of the cap (like the other ones). But it does leak a bit of oil from the chain oiler hole, on par with all the other chainsaws we have (the two Stihls). Overall a big improvement over the 12" which leaked a lot.

FWIW, there are some other manufacturers of 20 inch 3/8" pitch low profile chains available now.

seeing a lot of fine dust coming from the 250 compared to the dewalt chain is making chips

I was able to just stick one end of the included file under the file slot and it stayed in there. Probably not how they envisioned it but it works and the file is not rolling around. Edit: Do you think the larger profile 18" chain / bar would cut faster?

@CascadesHomestead

11 ай бұрын

I think it would cut faster but you can't run the larger chains on that sprocket. And I haven't been able to find a suitable replacement sprocket. So for now I use the 91VXL068G chain, works great and the kickback is manageable. YMMV :)

The ms250/251 comes with a .325 chain setup because it really doesn't have the stones to pull full size 3/8. With a .325 bar and chain setup, it would have been far closer to the DeWalt. I'm not saying it would beat it because it very likely still would have been a few seconds slower, but not 20 seconds slower.

The reason for not transporting batteries in the saw, or any Flex Volt tool is the voltage and ability to short and start a fire. DeWalt FlexVolt batteries should always be transported with the red transport covers on the batteries as when the cover is locked on the 60V connectors are interrupted limiting the voltage to the 3P5S, or 6P5S configuration, thus about 20V. 60V wouldn’t seem that dangerous but it is enough to start a fire of there is a collision or even with quick/sudden movements as the connections are quit.e close relative to other 40v+ batteries; this is needed to ensure the batteries can function in 20V as well as 60V tools.

@CascadesHomestead

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the details!

But how long do you get a charge for on the 615 battery. Personally I had to send mine in for warranty as I only got less than 5 minutes of cutting on each battery.

@imagino0010

11 ай бұрын

5 minutes? that's frightening. any updates on that issue?

Is it possible to fit an ev3n longer bar with some standard chain on it?

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

Not unless you replace the drive sprocket which is geared for 3/8 low profile (LP), since there are no 3/8 LP chains longer than 20". I don't think DeWalt (or anybody else) makes replacement sprockets that work with say .325 chains etc. But the supply chain situation with the 20" 3/8 low profile chains is getting better, there are two working replacement chains, please check out this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lKVqksGyZtTbiZs.html

Great review and one of the more detailed ones. I have one question what is runtime roughly with 15amp verus 12 a battery please? 30 mins or less. Paying $500 for a 15a battery is hard to swallow

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

Strictly personal opinion: the 15 amp battery adds another 1/2 HP or so but I don't think it's worth it. I mostly use my 12 amp batteries and they are just fine in this saw. Depending on wood hardness, log diameter etc. I get anywhere from 15 - 35 full log cuts out of the 12 amps. So with three of these batts I go all afternoon.

I bought this saw after seeing your review. It is the DCCS677Y1 that came with the 12 AH flexvolt. I found on the Dewalt website that the 15 amp hour battery it will increase the horsepower by just a little but thinking that extra power will reduce the run time on the 15 AH to make it feel like a 12AH but alittle more zip. Does it seem to last about as long with the 15 amp hour compared to the 12 amp hour? After a few days of good luck with usability of this saw I am deciding whether or not to buy (2) more 12 AH Flexvolts for $245 each or if I should Spend the $375 for (1) 15 AH battery.

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

Strictly my personal opinion: I would go for the two 12 AH batteries (24 AH total) instead of one 15 AH battery. Plus the 15 AH overheats after heavy sawing, with the two 12 AH you can always pop in another one. Of course it depends on your usage patterns as well.

@marcowens3522

Жыл бұрын

I would get the kit with the 15amp battery why because the saw alone is $380 with the 15ah battery you only pay an extra $165. Which is a deal that's a $380 battery. With that said if you got another 15ah battery for$380 you would be had $545 in 2 15ah batterys.

@MEDECK

Жыл бұрын

@@marcowens3522 You are not wrong there, I could not find the DCCS677Z1 kit anywhere when I was looking. That would have been a great deal. I ordered 2 more 12 AH batteries and I think it will do what I want for the hour or two a day I spend in the woods cleaning up.

@experienceprecision5406

Жыл бұрын

What makes you spend this insane amount of money when you can get a $99 gas saw with more power and you can repair it. Maybe if I can see it through your eyes I'll understand. Thanks

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

@@experienceprecision5406 have you tried the $99 gas saws? They are TERRIBLE! Now I do like my Stihls but a nice professional model will set you back $700-$800 (worth it though). My main reasons for a battery saw are: it's ready when you need it, no mixing gas, no "won't start" in the middle of a storm, no gas smell inside the truck (we always carry a saw in the truck in the winter since we live out in the woods) and we re-use the batteries with our other DeWalt tools. I've also used the battery saws quite a bit in construction work, mostly inside - you wouldn't want to use a gas saw there. I agree, battery saws aren't for everybody but there are some good use cases. We have a mix of both: a large Stihl gas saw for the big trunks and some DeWalt battery saws for the medium-sized stuff and the clean-up work.

I'd be interested to see how this compares power-wise with the new Stihl MSA 300

@BenDiscoe

Жыл бұрын

I'd also like to see that comparison, but the MSA 300 doesn't seem to available yet (as of September 2022) at least not in the USA

What oil do you use for your chain?

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

I use Oregon Premium Bar and Chain oil, this stuff is great and very inexpensive, around $18 or $19 per gallon: amzn.to/3ywe1fG Husqvarna also makes good bar and chain oil but is a lot more expensive, not worth it in my opinion.

How does it run with a 60V 2AH battery?

@CascadesHomestead

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t know but it probably won’t run very long. It runs great with the giant 15 Ah and the mid-size 12 Ah and 9 Ah batteries. The 2 Ah is really small, plus it’s light so the saw will be a bit front heavy and not balanced.

@JustEnjoyingLife73

Жыл бұрын

By 2Ah, he means the “6Ah” battery. It’s 2Ah in 60V mode. The 15Ah is actually 5Ah in 60V mode.

@adriananderson261

Жыл бұрын

This saw runs fine on the 6ah(2ah@60v) batteries. I have 2 6ah's as reserve batteries for when my 15ah needs a rest.

do you have to use a low profile chain ?

@CascadesHomestead

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the drive sprocket is for 3/8 low profile so that is what works best. Some folks claim you can use regular 3/8 chain but that didn't work for me, and you would also need a new bar with a different front wheel. I'm currently trying to validate two chains that might fit: 91VXL068G and 91PX068G, will report back in a few days when they've arrived and I had time to saw with them.

@abdallahadalabeeh8962

2 жыл бұрын

I couldn’t find the 20 inch chain anywhere , it is very difficult specially when i live in the middle east not in the USA or Canada. Could you advise for good replacement of the chain bar ? But I want to keep the length to 20 not 18 inch .

@MosaicHomestead

2 жыл бұрын

@@abdallahadalabeeh8962 some shops will make the chain for you, this is the best alternative to this problem.

@MosaicHomestead

2 жыл бұрын

I went with the 18 inch to avoid this problem, but I do have a place where they make the chain to size.

Can i buy an Oregon 20 inch bar and chain?

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

Hi Denis, I haven't found a 20" Oregon bar for 3/8"LP, .050" with a A041 mount yet, I don't think they make that. But you can use other 3/8"LP, .050" chains from Oregon, please check out this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lKVqksGyZtTbiZs.html

The 18" DCCS672 & the 20" DCCS677, Had the same runtime with 9ah battery??? An Ausie KZreadr said he get 38 cuts (runtime) With the same battery (9ah)...

Where can I get that case by itself?

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

Part number is DZO6KBOX and it seems to be out of stock everywhere. Keep checking at www.dewalt.com/product/dzo6kbox/chainsaw-kit-box

@kdeuce8374

Жыл бұрын

@@CascadesHomestead i appreciate you. Thanks

If i cant get a full chizel chain for a chain saw i dont want the saw...i am a huge dewalt fan boy and was extremly excited about this saw. I have the first gen 60v saw and love it even though it has a couple problems. That were resolved in tge new saw. But dam the 3/8 chain is a deal breaker... anyone that knows chain saws wants a full chizel chain....so disapointed....come on dewalt

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

Hi Robert, check out this video, there are some saw chain options: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lKVqksGyZtTbiZs.html

over 300% efficient in neodymium magnets , brushless is only few %

couldn't you just put a 20" Oregon bar on and shred whatever chain you want?

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

You can as long as the 20" bar has the A041 bar mount pattern and a 3/8" LP pitch to work with the drive sprocket. Oregon doesn't make one as far as I know, they're not on the Oregon website and neither Sheldon Hill nor Frawley's have something like that. Please let me know if you can find a 20" bar that fits!!

I'm a bit confused by Dewalt's naming. Might be that this one is for US market only and the second one for the rest of the world. By that second one I mean what Dewalt names DCMCS575X1. Because it looks pretty much the same. However, thanks for all the details and nice review.

@CascadesHomestead

11 ай бұрын

Looks like the DCMCS575X1 is a 16" saw? Weird, never seen that one in the US!

This is a great well designed saw. Stihl is junk because I can't pull start any Stihl gas chainsaw.

Shame they include a crappy charger for a 15ah

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

Agreed! A faster charger would have been preferred!

In two yrs you'll either have to throw it away or spend another two hundred for new batteries. If they still make the same batteries.

Saw dust is to fine chain not sharp and doggers to high

I think anyone that has used a chainsaw in any capacity is laughing at the idea of the "build quality" This is for a home owner that doesn't use a chainsaw often.

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

Actually, this DeWalt saw has really good build quality, much better than the electric saws from say HarborFreight (it's also more expensive). Does this saw replace a full-size Stihl? No, but for a homeowner with clean-up work this is a good option IMHO. We got rid of our mid-size Stihl and use the DeWalts for all the small and medium stuff. And the Stihl comes out for the big trunks or when I need a saw all day long.

I love it. It's just to bad they charge such a outstanding amount of money for batteries that will eventually go bad. Just makes zero economical sense. Unless you do business in Zombie, California.

That chain is dog sh, the battery compartment is fully exposed. Did I mention its an electric pruning saw that costs $700Aud skin and not a firewood saw!

Horsepowers? LOL!

Terrible warranty.

@CascadesHomestead

Жыл бұрын

What went wrong? I never had any major problem with one of my DeWalt chainsaws but when I needed warranty service for some of my batteries, DeWalt was super generous and came through.