NEW Cupra Born EV compared VS MG4 & Tesla Model 3

NEW Cupra Born EV compared VS MG4 & Tesla Model 3
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  • @cbromley562
    @cbromley562 Жыл бұрын

    The MG4 looks very compelling. The LFP Model 3 would be our choice today. However, we shelled most of our life savings on a 2018 Powerwall home storage battery, a 2019 Model 3 SR+, and last February sold the VW camper for a Model Y LR (back camping with a few luxury items). All three products have NMC batteries…they’re fine. (Same with our daughter’s 5 yr old Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh). In the Summer we keep both cars charged to around 50-60%…in Winter 80-85/90%. The Powerwall (on the Octopus/Tesla energy tariff) fills to 100% (grid and solar) and empties out daily. We keep testing the capacity with our home spun formula, and it still shows it’s retained its 13.5kWh usable capacity. Software management I guess. The M3 SR+ (2019 version) has a 50kWh battery (47kWh usable). Not big…2 thirds that of the Cupra. It weighs in at 1680kg (tested at our local garage on its first MOT), and reaches 62 mph in 5.5 secs. The driving is thrilling, aided by double wishbone suspension (same as Model Y LR). Bags of passenger and luggage space and coveted by our kids who drive it when it’s free. We now use the Model Y for its massive luggage capacity and hatch back, as we’re getting on and it’s easier throwing camping garbage in it. Both cars are incredibly practical, (as with the Powerwall…and Starlink), and hugely enjoyable to drive. The continual updates and improvements over the air while sat in the drive, autopilot and charging network can’t be underestimated…you just plug in and bugger off for a coffee…no messing with cards and apps, and the charging stops on route are calculated by the car, and updated according to conditions etc. When we got the Powerwall we didn’t know who Tesla, and Elon Musk were, but in 5 decades of driving (including Trucks) I’ve never known a company with such drive, innovation and attention to crucial and important detail. Whatever EV someone wants, it’s really worth using Tesla as the benchmark. The MG4 looks like a great solid choice, but the Cupra stands out as a style over substance, marketing exercise (which has become a bit of a plague).

  • @jebes909090

    @jebes909090

    Жыл бұрын

    You could literally buy 2 mg4's for the price of one model 3 and always have one fully charged at home

  • @daryllbroadhurst5719
    @daryllbroadhurst5719 Жыл бұрын

    I’m from the uk and although I’ve always loved the idea of a Tesla the MG 4 here is absurd value I ordered one in September and recently had a test drive and was really impressed. A long range MG 4 is £20,000 less than the cheapest Model 3 and it’s literally less than half the cost of the long range model 3. Hoping to take delivery in the next month - it’s my first ever electric and even my first ever “new” car so didn’t take the decision to buy lightly!

  • @Paul99T

    @Paul99T

    Жыл бұрын

    Also from the UK that dreamed of a Tesla for 4 years..... taken delivery of my MG4 last week.... there is nothing you can tell me that the Tesla Model 3 can do that the MG4 can't that justifies nearly double the cost.

  • @clayton4115

    @clayton4115

    15 күн бұрын

    Amazing what a year can do, the Model Y here in Australia is now only $5,000 more than the MG4, I still like the MG4 however.

  • @InBodWeTrust
    @InBodWeTrust Жыл бұрын

    I've already ordered an MG4 Standard Range (£26,540 with the Camden Grey metallic paint) ... just waiting on delivery, which should be within the next week or so 🙂

  • @crow3003

    @crow3003

    Жыл бұрын

    Camden grey looks very nice, in Norway we got Andes grey, anyone who know the difference?

  • @GlebKoshulko

    @GlebKoshulko

    Жыл бұрын

    @@crow3003 it's the same color, just different names. Here in Ukraine it's just Grey.

  • @edvoon
    @edvoon Жыл бұрын

    The MG4 long range only charges at 135kW, same as the Cupra Born. Also there’s been a video that shows even Tesla Model 3s with LFP batteries will degrade faster when regularly charged to 100% frequently. Although it is still expected to have a longer lifespan. Basically if you can fit it into your budget, then Tesla is the superior vehicle. If you can’t, then the MG4 is the one for you. I already ordered my standard range LFP MG4. You get a pretty much “Good Enough” car for almost half the price of a Tesla or Cupra, Yet without sacrificing safety or driver assistance features. Not only Newspapers. Even the MG4 salesperson I ordered from didn’t know the difference between LFP and NMC batteries. But it’s forgiveable since the ZS EV only has NMC so they haven’t been trained for the MG4 yet since it hadn’t been officially announced.

  • @SantinoGio
    @SantinoGio Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the full comparison. You're doing great job!

  • @electricviking

    @electricviking

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @whatthe6532
    @whatthe6532 Жыл бұрын

    Cupra v Model3. The difference is adults with legs will not fit in the rear seats of Model3. You can comfortably park a bus in the rear seat of a Cupra.

  • @TheMelbournelad
    @TheMelbournelad Жыл бұрын

    Hey Viking! I have watched a few MG4 reviews over in UK and Ireland. I’m sure I heard one of the reviewers say that the Long Range battery pack will change to LFP later, just didn’t have the capacity from supplier to have both LFP. So by time comes to Australia in Feb/Mar 2023 might both be LFP, IF, we get the long ranger version.

  • @stevesmith2529
    @stevesmith2529 Жыл бұрын

    I have the Cupra, about 6 months now. Lots to like and a few very annoying niggles (especially the Haptics which are beyond annoying!).Not sure where you got your figures from, the MG4 is not 10K cheaper than the Cupra in the UK and the Tesla is a lot more expensive in the UK (even if you can get one). The Born has been out a long way before the MG4 so if there are any similarities then its done by MG not the other way around. MG is not a bad looking motor and is better value than the Cupra, but the Cupra is a better looking car. So looking forward to the BYD's coming to the UK to shake up the market and having more to choose from and hopefully prices coming down. I'd have the Seal in a heartbeat if they price it competitively. BTW; the Cupra handles very well and is very nippy, I have decent range returns and mostly motorway driving. Wont be keeping it too long but very happy overall and until the BYD's come along

  • @jebes909090

    @jebes909090

    Жыл бұрын

    Its called cherry picking.

  • @acidrunner78

    @acidrunner78

    Жыл бұрын

    Also, the Born isn't $66000 Aus at all. Where is he getting this info..

  • @chrisrathjan1501

    @chrisrathjan1501

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@acidrunner78 depends what state you are in. 65 in SA 60in NSW Dunno why just what I saw in a car magazine

  • @user-iz8hk1ww7i

    @user-iz8hk1ww7i

    11 ай бұрын

    I agree with all your comments - The Cupra was on sale well before the MG4 so he definitely should be saying 'the MG4 looks like the Cupra'.

  • @sahar_services
    @sahar_services Жыл бұрын

    Why comparing the 77 kwh Cupra Born when there is also a version with 58 kwh.

  • @theandersonfamily4245
    @theandersonfamily4245 Жыл бұрын

    The Born is the best looking car in my opinion. Shame it isn’t more efficient.

  • @edenviews
    @edenviews Жыл бұрын

    I've just looked around an MG4 here in Cumbria, England. it is being rolled out to customers now. It looks great, it's cheaper and ticks all the boxes. A lot will be sold, I hope and being a mid-sized car, it will fit into most people's street, garage, parking space. The Tesla has done the walking, Musk does the talking and it's great for so many reasons. I would wait for the smaller one to fit into my garage. The Cupra Born is really an ID3 sibling, so the hesitancy I would have is their software mess and overpriced. My current EV will do until a few more cards come onto the table. I will be looking out for the Dolphin, when it comes, hopefully no BYD sales debacle here in UK.

  • @richh650
    @richh650 Жыл бұрын

    Great video comparison Sam.

  • @cybevenom
    @cybevenom Жыл бұрын

    For all the reasons you listed i went for the mg4 trophy, luxury as it is called over here in The Netherlands. At 37000 Euro and having a similar format as my current Ford fiesta it works out fine for me. Now awaiting delivery. Thats the hardest part.

  • @terrymackenzie6784
    @terrymackenzie6784 Жыл бұрын

    I think you are spot on I don't do any long range and have gone for the MG4 standerd range it available and a bargine

  • @FCHammerTime
    @FCHammerTime Жыл бұрын

    Wow a comparison of 3 cars where none of them were driven by the reviewer. Very informative.

  • @electricviking

    @electricviking

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 👍

  • @chrisrathjan1501

    @chrisrathjan1501

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes 👍 I hate this so much l. Theoretical at best. I can look at the spec sheet myself

  • @sahar_services
    @sahar_services Жыл бұрын

    Hahahah The Model 3 it is the better car hands down he says.....but also the most expensive one by far, 15.000 Euros more expensive to be more precise!!! So I don't think it is the best comparison, besides that MG4 and Born are not even in the same category. MG4 and Born are Compact Hatchbacks and Model 3 it is a midsized sedan. And again, the base Cupra Born has a 58 kwh battery pack and it is 15.000 euros less expensive then a Model 3. The 58 kwh Born it is just 150 kg heavier and it has almost the same range.

  • @clasoskarsson2405
    @clasoskarsson2405 Жыл бұрын

    MG4 ofcourse. Why spend more money for some random features. The MG4 is good enough for most people. Great handling, low consumption, fast & beatiful.... 7 years guaranti is no crap either.

  • @WrathChild-NZ
    @WrathChild-NZ Жыл бұрын

    would be nice if you could put all those stats on a chart on screen so we can compare them all.

  • @icosthop9998
    @icosthop9998 Жыл бұрын

    Like a very Very extremely smart wise fellow from another video of yours , He said put the numbers on a graph for comparison , side by side or top to bottom, 👌 instead of what you are currently doing.🤔 Once you start mentioning the next car's dimensions, some people completely forget the previous car dimensions, 💯% 😳 (Not me of course 🧐. I just thinking of others)

  • @davidstuart4915

    @davidstuart4915

    Жыл бұрын

    not to mention probably 80% of people cannot comprehend objects measured in thousands of units - to say one car is , say 6" longer than the other, is instantly understandable - as is 14ft long....

  • @icosthop9998

    @icosthop9998

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davidstuart4915 Very True 👍

  • @theobon2220
    @theobon2220 Жыл бұрын

    Well noted that the smallest battery is the best. I am also in the market to buy this MG4.

  • @Schaneification
    @Schaneification7 ай бұрын

    You are right !

  • @richardrogersdesigns2683
    @richardrogersdesigns2683 Жыл бұрын

    well narrated and useful review. Interesting analysis of battery types. Listening to lots of UK/US/AUS cost comparisons slightly irritating

  • @geoffmorris1769
    @geoffmorris1769 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent review. I’ve bought a standard range MG4 to replace a 2 year old MG5. I don’t need to use public rapid chargers very often as I charge at home. If I had to do high mileage, I too would probably plump for a Tesla if I had the money, but for me, with a minimum 160 mile range in winter and what looks like at least a 200 mile range in warmer weather, the MG4 is perfect. Lovely car, a few software issues on the MG Pilot now remedied and great value for money. This car is really taking off in the UK and justifiably so.

  • @samj4348
    @samj4348 Жыл бұрын

    MG have only confirmed the short range 50kwh MG4 for Australia so far. If they bring the 62kwh one quickly it’d be my favourite. Cupra Born 77kwh is ontop of my list as I want a long range.. but I also don’t want to spent so much if an alternative is available soon

  • @petermogyoros
    @petermogyoros Жыл бұрын

    I really like my 77kWh Born and I’m a little surprised by you analysis tbh.

  • @radovanlozej6740
    @radovanlozej6740 Жыл бұрын

    Tesla model 3 rwd lfp weights 1840 kg

  • @ege00006
    @ege00006 Жыл бұрын

    I really liked the mg4 but we must see a highway range test ( both 70 miles per hour and 90 Miles per hour ). Because every time i look to mg4 consumption on screen shown on the videos it changes 3,4 from 4,0 miles per kw. I do not know if they drove on eco mod but the consumption seemed a bit high to me.

  • @costiqueR
    @costiqueR Жыл бұрын

    Yesterday I found that the LFP batteries in the Tesla models are losing their capacity much faster than the Teslas with Ni Li batteries, they have the same worn at 50000 miles as a Ni-base Li battery at 100000 miles... These are the results collected by the application which survey Tesla batteries... So is not all rose on the LFP batteries...

  • @Eric76
    @Eric76 Жыл бұрын

    I was interested in a concise comparison between VW-Cupra, Tesla and MG, and what I am hearing is about weight and batteries in each manufacturers respectively model. If we talk about established media outlets like WhatCar, they have said the heavy Cupra Born is their best small EV in 2022. I just think this channel is causing more ambiguity about small EV's and the producer seems hell bent on proposing that an MG and or a Tesla Model 3 2022 are superior small EV's. I would like to see producers take these EV's out for a spin and then make a judgement, rather than using their intuition and facts about the battery, weight and what Top Gear said. There are plenty who would disagree with the outcome of this type of critique in recent weeks and months this year on here.

  • @GregQchi
    @GregQchi Жыл бұрын

    This is the rational and coherent video I needed. Thanks

  • @electricviking

    @electricviking

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @simonreeves2017
    @simonreeves2017 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Viking - I'm sure you know this, but I didn't pick it up in your comparison here; The Cupra Born is a VW ID.3 with a Seat take on the styling.

  • @kurtmissotten5965
    @kurtmissotten5965 Жыл бұрын

    Personally I think efficiency is a underestimated marker. How much watt per km, that’s going to be your bill. Tesla is extremely efficient and fun to drive plus you get many updates and new functionalities all the time. The tesla software value is underestimated, no other brand can match this for now I think. Honestly range, most people don’t even do 50km daily so I don’t think it’s an issue at all.

  • @ogzombieblunt4626

    @ogzombieblunt4626

    Жыл бұрын

    More efficiency means less battery cycles and less stress put on the battery. Which helps degradation. Tesla all day.

  • @andrewvasta9511
    @andrewvasta9511 Жыл бұрын

    What a great video article Sam. It just highlights how good the Tesla model 3 is, love it or hate it, the 3 makes the most sense...

  • @gesp5151
    @gesp51512 ай бұрын

    Cupra suffers with the VW EV platform issues. Mine failed to charge in accordance with stated technical specification for both AC and DC and was therefore not fit for purpose. Much better EVs out there

  • @rob_in_stowmarket_uk
    @rob_in_stowmarket_uk Жыл бұрын

    Hi. Isn’t the bodywork of the Tesla mainly Aluminium (US - Aluminum)? That would account for a significant reduction in its weight vs. Steel.

  • @johndinsdale1707
    @johndinsdale1707 Жыл бұрын

    will you give an initial assessment of the Lotus Electra?

  • @henvan8737
    @henvan8737 Жыл бұрын

    The battery size is of course a consideration but : weight is a killer to range. The way the Model 3 is built is shear genius and results is the lightest car in its size and power. One big feature of the model 3 is its thermal management system, no other EV manufacturer can match it presently. The model Y and and the model 3 also have the worlds highest ancap safety rating. As you can tell I am a Tesla owner.

  • @CuriousRayMcGill
    @CuriousRayMcGill Жыл бұрын

    @TEV : You need charts to convey numbers

  • @crow3003
    @crow3003 Жыл бұрын

    I would say spot on Viking, I was considdering the Cupra Born 58 kW at 343000nok / 51700aud or 42800nok (64500aud) with spec simmilar til MG4 but without trailer hitch. Model 3 is a bit harsh on our Norwegian roads so not on my list now. I am now on waiting list to test the MG4. If it fits me I will buy a MG4 Luxury (Thropy) as it at only 318000nok (47900aud) and 368000nok (55500aud) with trailer hitch, not standard color and studded winter tyres. Choices choices.🙂

  • @itekani

    @itekani

    Жыл бұрын

    What towing capacity does the MG4 get in Norway?

  • @crow3003

    @crow3003

    Жыл бұрын

    500kg

  • @davidstuart4915
    @davidstuart4915 Жыл бұрын

    I will have a Cupra with Tesla tech and MG price thanks :) - Upcoming Mini Tessy LR may well achieve this :)

  • @timw4369
    @timw4369 Жыл бұрын

    tesla viking strikes again. Yes tesla is good but we cant have one company doing the whole ev game. If that happens prices dont go down. We need more reasonable pricing 70k is not a reasonable price for any car.

  • @clayton4115
    @clayton4115 Жыл бұрын

    MG4 !

  • @davidwatson22
    @davidwatson22 Жыл бұрын

    Seen the MG4 very tempting but want to give it a year or two. To iron out new car issues and better battery tech makes its appearance, would like more real world range for day trips. I don't trust the UKs current charging network. I will say going to have a look at the new Megane E on Friday,not going for a test drive just want to see inside . I know it's going to be out of my price range.

  • @glassooy1
    @glassooy1 Жыл бұрын

    3 years ago I was thinking about buying a new car (I'm a pensionado) , should it be a electric or ice or a mix. Eventual I bought a secondhand Ice car and over 6 a 7 years I will switch to a full electric.

  • @ennael81
    @ennael81 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comparison video. I don’t find many videos on YT compares the Born and Tesla because I’m choosing between these two. I’m in Aus and Born has just been released. Both Born and base Model 3 are almost the same driveaway price where I live. After driven both, I have to say I can’t fault the Tesla for the tech you get, the software and the design. Born was fun to drive but it felt like a normal car when I sit inside. The design is pretty much like a normal combustion car but with battery, even the screens look dated to me. Whereas Tesla, I really feel like I’m sitting in an EV with digital controls through the touch screen. In Australia, Born doesn’t come with GPS, travel assist and wireless Apple CarPlay which is a huge let down. I thought I could put up with it using wired CarPlay with Waze which is what I’m currently doing, and this set up frustrates because the connection doesn’t work sometimes and Waze sometimes doesn’t work either. The best feature I like is Tesla’s navigation system where the trip planner built in. I hate laggy phone connection. Having all that already in the car is important to me.

  • @dennisbjergmadsen5163
    @dennisbjergmadsen5163 Жыл бұрын

    Where is NIO et5 and BYD Seal and dont forget ioniq6

  • @RB-lt8kt
    @RB-lt8kt6 ай бұрын

    Tesla model 3 long range is 4065lbs or 1843kg and model Y long range is 4416 lbs or 2000 kg. Cupra Born 58 kwh is 1828 kg and 77 kwh 1955 kg. So the 77kwh Born is only 100 kg more than the equivalent Model 3.

  • @bshah4831
    @bshah4831 Жыл бұрын

    Comparing on technology is useful. But purchase decisions are also emotional and customers also look at build quality. So looks and style and options are important. The Cupra has heat pump and Michelin EV tyres options.

  • @danharold3087
    @danharold3087 Жыл бұрын

    Is the MG4 selling at a realistic price. Or will we see it having trouble like BYD cutting dealers share to where things get ugly.

  • @Mo3fo
    @Mo3fo8 ай бұрын

    I’m stuck between a model 3 and a mg4. The price difference is notable but so is the build quality. The Tesla just looks and feels more premium. Having a model Y I am struggling with justifying the additional cost for a model3. I do get that Tesla itch satisfied. I don’t need the larger space that the model 3 provides, but the panoramic top, the facelift 2023 model with refreshed interior design is stunning. The MG4 is a great looking car, easy to drive, and ok ish on the inside, but brand snobbery is also a factor.

  • @Uouttooo
    @Uouttooo Жыл бұрын

    Don't we all wish the Tesla 3 is only $10,000 more expensive than the MG4. I wish I live in your universe where this is true. ;)

  • @iPozitroon
    @iPozitroon8 ай бұрын

    I really want to love Teslas. But the plain desert in the cabin (Style, wheel, no display in front of the driver) holds me back. Also one more thing to consider is the car hight. For me it means a lot to be able to see around from higher, and not to sit on the floor each time u get in. (Standard sedan vs SUV thing). In that regard both the Supra and the MG4 is closer in comfort to a SUV, hence I would almost say would need to be put against Tesla Y not the 3. Then the price goes up significantly. All in all if Tesla Y would be in that price range I would consider :) Sorry no hate, just an alternative point of view. cheers o7

  • @L1VE3V1L
    @L1VE3V1L Жыл бұрын

    If it ain’t a Tesla, you chose wrong. Software is THE most important part of an EV. Everyone making ev’s seems to forget. It’s an afterthought.

  • @pauljeffery5691
    @pauljeffery5691 Жыл бұрын

    I would have considered mg4 if it had lfp, since it doesn’t im going the atto 3

  • @pauljeffery5691

    @pauljeffery5691

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stevenjones916 that’s if they even sell that model in Australia, BYD still not selling the standard range version

  • @thelethargicponderer6793

    @thelethargicponderer6793

    Жыл бұрын

    the MG4 does have LFP

  • @thelethargicponderer6793

    @thelethargicponderer6793

    Жыл бұрын

    @@stevenjones916 😅😂😄😁

  • @Holiman1989able
    @Holiman1989able Жыл бұрын

    The model 3 rwd weight is 1830 kg i own a 2022 model . Also thought it was ligher.

  • @pauljmeyer1
    @pauljmeyer19 ай бұрын

    For my use, I'd prefer the MG4 with the light LFP battery which I can charge at home, and as I don't travel more than 100K around trip it would be fine.

  • @Marcus-up5wk
    @Marcus-up5wk Жыл бұрын

    I have a cheap MG ZST as a run around and it’s ok for the money but the entertainment system (Which I believe is same as MG4) is not great verging on painful.. Rest of the car is ok..

  • @SamuelHernandez-mp5ws
    @SamuelHernandez-mp5ws Жыл бұрын

    Hey Sam! I think you missed talking about interior equipment, luxury, and safety features. I would go hands down, any day for the Tesla.

  • @theandersonfamily4245
    @theandersonfamily4245 Жыл бұрын

    Just to be clear Viking, is the model 3 a much bigger car?

  • @jspanga
    @jspanga Жыл бұрын

    Would love a mid 5sec electric under 60k (AUD), but don't think it will happen, even next year (performance model of MG not destined for Au :(. So will be hanging on to my money + crappy ICE cars for now

  • @mixalis6168

    @mixalis6168

    Жыл бұрын

    Why on earth would anybody call a ICE crappy, yet buy one !!!

  • @jspanga

    @jspanga

    Жыл бұрын

    ..because i didn't get a choice in it? I've had them for over 10years, and back then there were no decent electric options

  • @grahamastor4194
    @grahamastor4194 Жыл бұрын

    We live in the UK and I have a 2019 Model 3 and it's great, I'd prefer if it were a little narrower and had a hatch - so a narrower Model Y would hit the spot. I'm looking for an electric vehicle for my wife, she likes a small cross-over style vehicle, so a Model Y is too big as far as she's concerned. The MG4 looks good from a UK roads POV, but it's Chinese and we'd prefer to buy British, EU or American. I keep telling her that the selection of EVs will get better and better but it seems to be taking so long and the selection seems to be comming from Chinese manufacturers first. 😒

  • @markuc

    @markuc

    Жыл бұрын

    Don't be so brainwashed to buy based on ideology.

  • @hdvoice

    @hdvoice

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m happy that you are not buying Chinese cars for ideological reasons. Good for ya! Now please expand that list.

  • @XtremeCoke

    @XtremeCoke

    Жыл бұрын

    I hope you still have cloth to wear before jumping into your car.

  • @Paul99T

    @Paul99T

    Жыл бұрын

    There is no such thing as a British car 🤣 Even Mini's with their Union Flag tail lights ARE MADE IN GERMANY

  • @richardjansen3838
    @richardjansen3838 Жыл бұрын

    Isn't this the same software as VW ID 4

  • @jozefroman2110
    @jozefroman2110 Жыл бұрын

    I would add that Tesla Model 3 SR+ from China with LFP battery is 100kg heavier then Model 3 SR+ from US. So 1700+kg

  • @apn42
    @apn42 Жыл бұрын

    The Tesla Model 3 seems like great value for money, but is really to big for my needs. Also I would regret my purchase the day I had to buy a new front or rear motor or screen out of warranty at an insane price. Also I don't need super car performance as it will drive up the running costs, for instance break repair or tire replacement.

  • @fangitjoe
    @fangitjoe Жыл бұрын

    Your numbers are not quite right. Current base Model 3 is 1762kg, has 208kW (279hp) and does 0-100kmh in 6.1s. The earlier models (before the iron phosphate batteries) were a little faster and lighter - 1645kg, 211kW (283hp) and did 0-100kmh in 5.5s.

  • @gregchristie2763
    @gregchristie2763 Жыл бұрын

    So in fact LFP even today with the current densitys has more range than Turnery because you're only supposed to use 60% of the available battery in a Turnery. Also lfp is safer fire wise. Energy density increasing in lfp .. I can't see why ternary batteries will continue much longer except for the fact that massive Investments have been in producing Turnery. The improvements in battery technology the manufacturers cannot keep up with.. they have to change their manufacturing process to produce a new type of battery.. the winners will be the ones that do this most quickly and cheaply.

  • @Colt16v
    @Colt16v Жыл бұрын

    A 2021 Tesla Model 3 SR+ with LFP battery with a 54kWh capacity clocks in at 1887kg minimum weight. A 2017 Renault Zoe with a 41kWh batterypack weighs in at around 1400kg, so a Model 3 only being 200-250kg heavier is ridiculous. Also there is really not much benefit in having an LFP battery over a "regular" lithium battery. Yes it will degrade a bit less, but people are talking like charging to 100% and discharging to less than 20% wont affect the battery. It will, but to a lesser extend. The Zoe cant be configured to only charge to x%, so unless you stop it, it will always charge to 100%, and there haven´t been any real degradation or outright defects in those batterypacks. The LFP battery is simply just cheaper to manufacture because of the absence of cobolt and nickel. But it comes at a cost: more weight because of lower energy density.

  • @Paul99T
    @Paul99T Жыл бұрын

    Conversations about battery chemistry are irrelevent. In a year or two's time it is all gonna change. You need to to find a vehicle that works for you right now, or just keep waiting.

  • @eddieyutub
    @eddieyutub Жыл бұрын

    As a Standard Range Plus model, the 2022 Tesla Model 3 starts at $44,490

  • @jebes909090

    @jebes909090

    Жыл бұрын

    In what currency

  • @Uouttooo

    @Uouttooo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jebes909090 Monopoly money.

  • @frankcoffey
    @frankcoffey Жыл бұрын

    Tesla is the "known good thing" in EVs and has a great charging network and software eco-system. For me to buy another brand it would have to be a lot cheaper.

  • @christophert.wilton4562
    @christophert.wilton4562 Жыл бұрын

    I own an mg zs ev 70 plate in uk.I have ordered an mg4 standard range because I can charge it to 100%. the long range should only be charged to 80%.The long range less the 20% less usable capacity charge of 61%=49% of usable battery.The standard range has 49% of usable battery why pay £2000 for no more everyday range I think that is why MG will not supply the standard range in Trohy spec

  • @r1cr1
    @r1cr1 Жыл бұрын

    Tesla M3 my first car, MG4 second family car!

  • @johnkellett7797
    @johnkellett7797 Жыл бұрын

    My Audi A2 does 50 mpg all day yet weights a tonne less than the MG4. Statistics can be bent to prove nearly anything :-) I have a friend who is not permitted to buy a Chinese car because of the ‘theoretical’ ability of the Chinese government knowing everything about where they are at any time, and perhaps the ability to shut the vehicle down should it wish to! Or to put it another way there are a number of corporations and nations who may, or may not, have more control over you now that you might hope :-) Personally, I’m not particularly bothered whether my life is governed by Russia, China, or the USA except I’d rather not be forced to be a citizen of any of them :-)

  • @hughvines4585
    @hughvines4585 Жыл бұрын

    Compare the body lines and rattles. Tesla doesn’t compare

  • @JakobFischer60
    @JakobFischer60 Жыл бұрын

    In Europe range is not everything. Practicality is important and if you check the comments, many will not choose that one trick pony Model 3.

  • @bydman5320
    @bydman5320 Жыл бұрын

    The Tesla Viking

  • @qilu2004
    @qilu2004 Жыл бұрын

    mg4 for 60k aud? that is a lot! atto3 starting at 45k looks underpriced.

  • @InBodWeTrust

    @InBodWeTrust

    Жыл бұрын

    In the UK the top spec Trophy (with the Volcano Orange paint) is £32,190 ... that equates to AUD 57,600. (The MG4 starting price is £25,995 / AUD 46,500). The Cupra Born starting price in the UK is £34,660 which is AUD 62,000

  • @qilu2004

    @qilu2004

    Жыл бұрын

    @@InBodWeTrust 46k aud sounds more reasonable, but still more expensive than atto3. yet in europe and uk, atto3 is more expensive than mg4 (i think that is about right).

  • @mikafiltenborg2291
    @mikafiltenborg2291 Жыл бұрын

    Tesla No.1 🥇 😊👍👍

  • @eddieyutub
    @eddieyutub Жыл бұрын

    I'm in California and I would buy an MG4 over any car now.

  • @lamrof
    @lamrof Жыл бұрын

    I live here in Tesla country NorCal. You see nothing but Teslas

  • @mikeylau2830
    @mikeylau2830 Жыл бұрын

    I'm a silly clown but sodium aboundence for many cities driving 🤔

  • @Movezz4all
    @Movezz4all Жыл бұрын

    Tesla M3, hands down

  • @WRHSF
    @WRHSF Жыл бұрын

    Hmm??? The Tesla weighs over 100 kg more than the MG4

  • @TeslaAllegory
    @TeslaAllegory Жыл бұрын

    you should see cleanerwatt vlog he is super professional and he claims that LFP buttery is not what you think. listen and respond

  • @eediz
    @eediz Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely mg4, it is $35,000 cheaper than tesla 3.

  • @SkywalkerPaul
    @SkywalkerPaul Жыл бұрын

    People of the world, listen up! Make no mistake, Tesla model 3 is years ahead of all those other cars. Even the base model 3 is extremely quick in comparison.

  • @dennisbjergmadsen5163

    @dennisbjergmadsen5163

    Жыл бұрын

    You need to wake up, tesla is not ahead anymore. Only reason the model 3 is among the top is because theres no opponent in form of a sedan, but they Are coming. Ioniq6, et5 and byd Seal. Just start crying dude

  • @jamesleate

    @jamesleate

    Жыл бұрын

    The trouble is you never OWN a Tesla. You buy a Tesla and they dictate what you are and are not allowed to do with it. They can change your range over the air and restrict its power and speed on a whim. They punish you if you don't use the "correct" repair company (results of repair don't matter). You can't modify or adjust certain things on the car and Tesla locks you into their network and if you seek someone cheaper or better they penalise you. It's a very communist car company.

  • @SkywalkerPaul

    @SkywalkerPaul

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dennisbjergmadsen5163 those other cars have no history yet. And no service network. At least here in Germany there are none of these Chinese cars yet. Only announcements. How they feel and drive nobody knows yet.. 🤔

  • @SkywalkerPaul

    @SkywalkerPaul

    Жыл бұрын

    On the other hand the Tesla model 3 base model has almost Porsche 911 acceleration. And it comes with leather interior as standard.

  • @SkywalkerPaul

    @SkywalkerPaul

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jamesleate it depends if you lease or buy.

  • @mixalis6168
    @mixalis6168 Жыл бұрын

    Tesla M3 long range !!

  • @mikafiltenborg2291
    @mikafiltenborg2291 Жыл бұрын

    Sam - go and buy a Tesla (Y)! 😊

  • @balkanleopard9728
    @balkanleopard9728 Жыл бұрын

    Both the Tesla Model 3 and the MG-4 are made in China and OK, the Tesla is lighter through better structural engineering - but it costs €8000+ more than a MG-4.. I can do a lot with €8000. I own an ev and I wouldn't recommend any ev to anyone! The supporting infrastructure is rubbish once you get away from motorways and major towns and cities and straight out motorway range is abysmal.

  • @chrispack3131

    @chrispack3131

    Жыл бұрын

    Not sure where you live but I’m sure as time moves on more & more charging stations will be available/built. I’m living in Thailand & already they have a lot of charging stations & are aiming to have charging stations that are no further than 150 kilometers apart. Drive dafe

  • @johndinsdale1707
    @johndinsdale1707 Жыл бұрын

    Should compare to MG4 Triumph :- kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4mf17N_ptS6irA.html

  • @jamescarter9973
    @jamescarter9973 Жыл бұрын

    Why make a video just to knock the Cupra Born? The Born costs $59,000 compared to $73,000 for the Tesla and the EV4 is not available in Australia until the end 2024. If you have a lot of money or prepared to wait 20 months go for it. I've got a Born on order.

  • @oscara8111

    @oscara8111

    11 ай бұрын

    I believe MG4 will be available in Australia November 2023

  • @tonyspiegel6771
    @tonyspiegel6771 Жыл бұрын

    The Tesla is the better car. The MG4 is great value. The Cupra is Old Tech, Overpriced and poorly supported here in Australia. The only reason you look at anything other than a Tesla is to have a car that isn't as common on the road. Just buy a Tesla or if you need a cheaper shoping trolly buy the MG. If you want to be ripped off buy the Cupra.

  • @greghuizen8213
    @greghuizen8213 Жыл бұрын

    Just saying top gear have lost there credibility with the public, not worth mentioning their name…go Tesla

  • @jimbo802
    @jimbo802 Жыл бұрын

    Price its the same with chinese motorcycles why dont u bye those

  • @itekani
    @itekani Жыл бұрын

    These desktop comparisons are pretty pointless, especially when they are not thoroughly researched. Like the Cupra isn't exactly brand new, and you will know much of the characteristics, efficiency etc by looking at Id3 test data. And why not compare the 58kWh Cupra which is more in line with the other two. Sam is good at other things, car reviews just isn't the thing with this channel.

  • @jameslemon51

    @jameslemon51

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @icosthop9998
    @icosthop9998 Жыл бұрын

    1st to give a thumbs up 👍 And 1st to be 1st 🤗 🥇

  • @FXNorm
    @FXNorm Жыл бұрын

    Musk doesn't have anywhere near enough batteries.. He's MILLIONS short.

  • @mikafiltenborg2291

    @mikafiltenborg2291

    Жыл бұрын

    U are mis-informed

  • @Wolf-yw7en
    @Wolf-yw7en Жыл бұрын

    Driven all three. All good. However, you don’t take into consideration fit & finish and general driving dynamics. I’ll take the Cupra over either of those. It’s like saying a Toyota Yaris is a VW Golf. As for Top Gear, they rate within a category. None of your comparisons sit within the same category. Therefore you’re spreading misinformation. Sorry Sam. bS.

  • @MAGApepe
    @MAGApepe Жыл бұрын

    tesla has no ''vs''

  • @rodbrown8306
    @rodbrown8306 Жыл бұрын

    Australia rip-off land, we expect to be ripped off, lol!!...MG4 is around 220 miles range don't tell pork pies mate.