edit not all commander skin have custom APC just some of them for now i guess...

@LogoLone

Ай бұрын

ok

@Telamon_223

Ай бұрын

I'm sad that Bloxy hasn't changed anything, I was expecting something cool...

@itzstqr

Ай бұрын

I would like to see a pirate ship pirate commander APC lmao

@ItzSweaking

Ай бұрын

@@itzstqr same, and watermelon apc

@black-zu8yp

Ай бұрын

​@@ItzSweakingwatermalon!

Darn, the commander got nerfed, especially with the call to arms ability... which makes sense because he no longer screams as much, therefore less fighting spirit

@thelightbeamer9693

Ай бұрын

Bro got older 😢😢😢

@tanskie250

Ай бұрын

Not saying "come on" from his voice lines

@pylotheric9777

Ай бұрын

commander ran out of voice for the apocalypse so he had to bring the apc

@Zephyr549

Ай бұрын

THE COMMANDER STACKS

@t_skreppy5883

Ай бұрын

​@@Zephyr549👀

Commander rework ❌ Commander Nerf ✅

@SpyRats

Ай бұрын

Agreed. I thought the rework Commander, would've 60% or 65% max firerate buff

@Luboslav2

Ай бұрын

A lot of us can agree, a lot of us can disagree that is just the truth.

@robloxboom6lesecond4

Ай бұрын

to be fair since we have consumables its not that big of a hit

@Fabian-in7ee

Ай бұрын

Actually i like the rework i don't care if it's more like a nerf

@Orion-ey5jr

Ай бұрын

@@Wes_gaming2671 I mean yeah, it's really only a 5% nerf on max level and while that can make a significant difference it's much better for the balancing aspect

2:14 heres your answer: They did-... We did.

@Lich45

Ай бұрын

The real complains from me is buff that aint no commander at all

Greatly reduced the distance from the commander

@Ambitious_aydenn

Ай бұрын

What a good “change”

@Faker-freddy

Ай бұрын

Dude made commander john from tdx which is ironic

@pylotheric9777

Ай бұрын

​@@Faker-freddy????

@ganchei4882

Ай бұрын

​@Faker-freddy bro what commander hasnt even released yet in tdx

@Anti_Cringe1

Ай бұрын

@@Faker-freddywhat

there is no way they gave lead detection and more dmg to a purely support tower 💀

@wehavenotakebacks9363

Ай бұрын

They tried to balance it out to the nerf, it’s still horrible

@femurbreaker0

Ай бұрын

great idea lets buff the damage of the tower NOBODY EVER uses for dps

@A59ri

Ай бұрын

lead and flying commander can kill lead balloons now

@Meme_lord47

Ай бұрын

I have an idea they should give commanders lead detection to shotgunner level two

@wehavenotakebacks9363

Ай бұрын

@@A59ri that’s not op

No more John😢

@UnknownYT-

Ай бұрын

sad

@themaskedman8668

Ай бұрын

Didn't john in his latest videos show some rework of vehicles with the collab on tb on commander and it looks offly similar

@themaskedman8668

Ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure they got rid of John voice because they have beef with him now or some

@Beanman87

Ай бұрын

@@themaskedman8668John stopped working with tds as he isn’t in the group anymore. there is no beef.

@ThisDudedumb

Ай бұрын

@@Beanman87honestly he would be better with tds his game is going terrible

so basically they're helping tdx overtake tds like fr, why on earth would they remove the most iconic sound in the game and nerf a tower where everything else is balanced around? It makes absolutely 0 sense and the range decrease is just insane. 14 range at max is absurdly low for a support tower. Devs will fr do EVERYTHING but rework hardcore

@PhuongNguyen-gc8cx

Ай бұрын

nah, commander is so op cause it cost a little price like about 17k and it can make a turret douple it dps or almost douple for accel. So the commander deserve that rework

@KratosSuffering

Ай бұрын

did you just say commander was balanced

@Raptor8118.

Ай бұрын

John doesn’t work for the team anymore lmao, he doesn't want be associated with any other game.

@nicknick493

Ай бұрын

@@KratosSuffering balanced around it

@PlatinumLeft

Ай бұрын

@@nicknick493It never was tfym

the last think of jonh is only a skin 😭😭

@Krambar546

Ай бұрын

Watch that get removed when militant rework

@Dualspeedbattler3782

Ай бұрын

And paintballer with the mask and hat

@lesha32171

Ай бұрын

​@@Dualspeedbattler3782If you mean the mask that paintballer and john probably wear, they aren't John's. That mask is an official roblox item.

@Jaysin12

Ай бұрын

​@@Krambar546 militant got reworked 2 years ago,you new or some shit?

@DailyD5

Ай бұрын

​@@Jaysin12who said a rework only comes once and never again

no idea why tds receives so much undeserved hate nowadays. the updates are so high quality now when compared to even a year ago. they "nerfed" commander because they are trying to make the game less reliant on commander and dj (dj rework???). right now, dj and commander are required in 99% of loadouts, taking up two out of five spots right there and then. i think that this approach can greatly benefit the game as they are working on reworking old outdated towers and adding new unique ones as well. i think tds' future is quite bright and can't wait for what's next! (brawler tower tomorrow lets goooo! 💪)

@Blurtion

Ай бұрын

tb rip off.

@pokade3659

Ай бұрын

they might aswell remove farm

@Funkyleb

Ай бұрын

@@pokade3659farm isn’t needed??? Cowboy exists for a reason

@Funkyleb

Ай бұрын

@@Blurtionsure, keep saying that because that implies that tb has better quality

@Maria_Rosecleide

Ай бұрын

@@Blurtion tb is dead anyways

they really hate john now 😭

@HappyStupidhead

Ай бұрын

Or, y'know. He works on an entirely different tower defense game, so J.Roblox can't do commander VA

Old one sounded like he had a fighting spirit Now he sounds like a anime protagonist. ghost commander is still cool though

@dekokiri9961

Ай бұрын

So true

I am all for seeing where they will take this new commander capabilities (if there are any) also wow you uploaded this video quickly

They don't need to rework it tbh, as commander is perfect the way it is. Just remodel them and their animation is enough. Edit: now that I think about it, the rework is okay, I love APC :3

@bestplayerofalltime105

Ай бұрын

Eh he did need one but not like this. They just straight up made him tb commander

@Gab12345BR

Ай бұрын

bro commander outshined all other sup towers

@infxnite4431

Ай бұрын

​@@Gab12345BRconsidering there's only like 3 support towers in total, NO WONDER

@beerite8326

29 күн бұрын

@@bestplayerofalltime105 better version lol

Commander its overall got nerfed on most important think.

@definitivamentenosoyunacaja

Ай бұрын

fr

@mechaniccccc

Ай бұрын

Ape ass devs can't nerf commander. if they do that hardcore is impossible

@redman48ita31

Ай бұрын

​@@mechaniccccc oh they did.

@mechaniccccc

Ай бұрын

@@redman48ita31 i was saying they can't cause that's literally one of the worst decisions for the game they cannot do that. I know they did but damn

@redman48ita31

Ай бұрын

@@mechaniccccc yeah honest the rework make max 50% firerate plus now you cant anymore do full 100%100 time ability since cooldown its now 40 second and placement limit has return to 3.

The amount of strats that has been affected so far is crazy 😭

2:10 you can spam apc selling commander and placing it at max lvl, if you have the money though

this reminds me of those nutshell videos that were popular during frost invasion specifically one with all the towers having abilities which actually seems to be happening

Frankly all it needs is a range buff, and it will be a bit better. And it also looks like the APCs will need a damage or health upgrade.

@jinmori155

Ай бұрын

No

@nachopop-bv1bu

Ай бұрын

@@jinmori155 yes

@mechaniccccc

Ай бұрын

No cause they removed chaining 😂no more beating hardcore without chaining my man

@diegodelamacorra8901

Ай бұрын

@@mechaniccccc does it look like I care

@mechaniccccc

Ай бұрын

@@diegodelamacorra8901 you replied so yes

I feel like spamming commander as both support and baits is more important than getting a placement limit with APC. Feels like the placement limit should be more, or they can find a way to stop players from using APC in more than 3 commanders

they violated my boy commander😭😭

@shusorcery3284

Ай бұрын

They changed my neko commander😭

@Slayer15711

Ай бұрын

​@@shusorcery3284 Now hes trash

@SomebodyIsCool

Ай бұрын

fr ;-;

0:05 I love how you specifically said lucille lol

I need to be careful then since it has a placement limit of 3 then no more emergency commander I useally place 3 but sometimes 4 the 4th one is the emergency because if I use 2 call of arms at the same time it would risk my game and turn it into a lost. The placement limit should be 4 instead. Plus mix those tanks with military base that would make a great military convoy.

The aco kinda looks like the top path of armored factory in tdx. Nice

Commander has some good reworks. Despite the nerfs in terms of range and fire rate debuff. He is still a good support tower now that he has all the detections like the Engineer. He is a good addition in the Engineer's Family and he will be useful in Hardcore, and in Pizza Party and other event maps when it comes to Flying, Hidden, and Lead combined into one with its buffed damage. Hence i love it! ❤️ Just need to use him carefully in diff scenarios

I just know wikia is cooking an 8 minute video about this

looks like I can no longer beat fallen or hardcore now cause I can’t spam 7 commanders next to my accelerators SO THIS UPDATES AMAZING!

I'm glad we have 3 as the max amount of commanders so we can still chain them instead of only having 1 commander destroying a lot of strats

Oh no it can't be. They got rid of one of the last iconic things in tds. The John commander voice lines

@hdhdhddhhdhd-nv3ko

Ай бұрын

them and john been beefing, they had every right to, john doesnt even work for tds anymore

@richard.0819

Ай бұрын

​@@hdhdhddhhdhd-nv3kohe never did

@PatoGrupo

Ай бұрын

​@@hdhdhddhhdhd-nv3koHe never really worked for TDS, he just contributed to some stuff

@theworldaccordingtocolt5361

Ай бұрын

@hdhdhddhhdhd-nv3ko dang that sucks. I really thought him and below never had beef with each other. It's still pretty sad to see one of the oldest and most nostalgic relics gone

@Raptor8118.

Ай бұрын

What kinda bullshit am I hearing now? They have no beef lmao. Don’t know where y'all got that.

after looking at all the skins I have, it looks like the only commander skins that had a major rework are the one that are "Still obtainable" Eclipse Commander looks about the same (it even has the wooden stool) same with the Holiday commander, and bloxy commander, and according to the discord Springtime commander is just straight out broken. I do not own, Ghost, Gargoyle, and bunny, but if my theory is correct, wouldn't be surprised if those skins are also not redesigned.

@T.three_

Ай бұрын

Springtime changed a ton, It’s just you cant place it right now because of a bug

@KratosSuffering

Ай бұрын

Ghost, Gargoyle and Bunny all got major redesigns. Ghost is AMAZING now, went from C tier to S tier skin for sure. Gargoyle looks better now (in my opinion), haven't seen bunny yet

@audradelightable

Ай бұрын

I want my pirate commander rework

I feel like the new ability was a little much nice remodel I just don’t feel like it was needed it was already a good enough model as it was although it still looks a lot better

I do like the new voiceline but the John voice would forever be in our hearts Sounds something like what a space marine captain would say Most definitely a Black Templar or an Iron Hand or some other chapter, I don’t know of.

Bro....... That's tower battles commander

@Iraqiboye3

Ай бұрын

idk the old atleast was better

@tbtb1602

Ай бұрын

Yep

@pylotheric9777

Ай бұрын

Tower battles commander but better

@irohmoua5820

Ай бұрын

@@pylotheric9777actually worse. Tower battles commander is just built different.

@Phuphaton

Ай бұрын

Epic

No way that they bring out tower battle commander 🔥🔥🔥

Best Way to Chain Commanders: Waves before Final Wave: Wait 3-4 seconds before using a commander ability. Final Wave: Use a commander ability, after 10 seconds use another commander ability, sell & rebuy the first commander, and repeat. This method is super expensive, but that isn’t a problem when it’s the final wave. In addition, this method is a good way at countering stuns, it makes sure towers are always buffed by 50%, and you’ll always have a back-up commander.

R.I.P John... you will be mis- STRENGTH IN NUMBERS!! - seriously I was in the middle of my dramatic line...

I have predicted it. a lot of strats are going to break right now.

They made commander from being best tower to just be a mid spawner

Commander scream feel like gladiator voice but not been edited (or it actually gladiator voice but been edited)

Crazy how this is exactly what John said he was gonna do with the commander a couple months ago

isn’t this tdx ideas? Nah this is starting to get sussy with the commander spawning apc cars when that was tdx idea with tb

Down side of this rework range decrease 5% nerf for 0:54 call of arms and placement limit of 3

@rand0mp3rs0n5

Ай бұрын

You never really use more than 3 commanders, but the cooldown of it is bad

@richard.0819

Ай бұрын

​@@rand0mp3rs0n5 how much is it?

@thebearer8904

Ай бұрын

You can still perfectly CTA chain though, since it's a bit longer than 10s.

@MangoGalaxyYT

Ай бұрын

Placement limit is no problem since we usually only use 3 anyway, but the cooldown of cta is bad

@richard.0819

Ай бұрын

@@thebearer8904 less bad

Imagine an armored apc get destroyed by a single big zombie

it’s now further from being a commander

the devs did such an amazing job with the remodel. props to the 3d artists

Say goodbye to commander chaining guys

With johns voice lines being retired, i fell like this represents john leaving tds and moving on to his own game tdx (I could be wrong)

Ngl, the new commander voice lines are very well done. But make a another skin like classic skin to have john's voice line

Why does it looks similiar to TB commander (the max level eyepatch and the APC)

The vehicles health kinda suck because I say that APC’s are really powerful in war and it savers mostly most lives in a war.

Why would I need lead and fly detection if it will only attack some seconds?:v

Why they remove every instance of john after TDX release? Like the skin code expire, then commander sound effect

BET dj is gonna have dance stunning ability

Good thing they did rework commander and its stats and am pretty much fine with this new voice actor.

they need to make APC's skins for umbra commander. i wonder how it will look like....

Btw why is the last upgrade commander looks like a grampa

these vehicle models spawned by commander looks oddly similar to the TDX's tanks.

@Thegreatmemethief

Ай бұрын

And very similar to the Stryker ability in tower battle…

@pylotheric9777

Ай бұрын

Let me guess, just the color?... 😂

@Kalevin240

Ай бұрын

Yea ngl the German military copied the apc from tdx

@PumpkinGamer303

Ай бұрын

@@Thegreatmemethief yeah fr

@PumpkinGamer303

Ай бұрын

@@Kalevin240 can you elaborate?

I love how an apc is weaker than a swat van

this rework is the first where they made a mistake in. A lot of strategies are now ruined as a result.

Bro the last upgrade, it make Commander look like old man

Bro when did come the commander rework did came soo much glitchs like military base skin gota glitch cant iven upgrade and the acell skin the ice arm one i think i forget the name 💀 dont attack just stand like H and the last the commander cant put while having the umbra skin well my opinion is update was 8/10 Good update but soo much bugs to fix

I’m not mad about most things, they just need to fix the range and How they ABSOLUTLY nerfed the fire rate buffs

I mean in not mad about stats change but rather about that it broke or destroyed 3+ skins

yep just like what i predicted, it will get a nerf

I think tds is trying to relaese new quality updates to compete again tdx like look at their designs and they're updating a lot more with better uodates instead of just skins

think either they give more hp to tanks or nerf apc

Also the missile APC is more of an IFV

R.I.P John tower 2019-2020(Hardcore)

I'm gonna say it, it's not too bad, you'd generally have 3 Commanders to begin with, but I will say that the range nerf hits the most I hope they get the time to model the other Commander convoy skins

@Marshall1q.

Ай бұрын

They're so petty for removing the john stuff

@mechaniccccc

Ай бұрын

You can't chain anymore

@minerdxxd733

Ай бұрын

@@mechaniccccc you still can, it's just gonna have a bit of a downtime

@mechaniccccc

Ай бұрын

@@minerdxxd733 i'm sure they're smart enough right now to buff it soon, you CANNOT remove chaining

@minerdxxd733

Ай бұрын

@@mechaniccccc you do know this was bound to happen right? CTA chaining was op

the maid commander anime girl missile thing is my favourite thing ever

They basically just did this to buff range and cooldown flags.

Its sad to see new voice lines, but bloxy skin is still just "WOOOOOOOOOO" which is cool

Joe Swanson commander with that voice

three things I noticed 1. Commander is a spawner now 2. They removed neko commander’s fursuit 3. Accel broke (at least for me)

RIP the Iconic Wooden Stool and Chaining

make the placment limit 4 or make the cooldown at max level for cta 30 seconds

We gonna miss the old times

I’m fine with the rework itself. They just need to give commander back. It’s range and it’ll be perfect.

Im 101 percent sure that they decided to rework commander AND his voice lines just to remove john's voice (they have removed john and raz statues from the rocket arena map so thats why im convinced that they did so)

@Somethinglalala

Ай бұрын

Especially with towers like paintballer still rotting in the shop

@zebrastripe7990

Ай бұрын

I don’t agree if they truly did it for that reason they would also get rid of the John militant.

@user-bh4rl1xx5v

29 күн бұрын

@zebrastripe7990 it was a code skin, they kept it FOR AWAY TOO LONG as a code because they propably forgot about it (then it became expired after alot of time period) and then some time later they removed the statues and they completly forgot about militant or even his skins so im pretty sure they just forgot about it lmao

@Somethinglalala

29 күн бұрын

@@zebrastripe7990 I feel like removing the John militant would cause too much drama compared to the simple statues and code expire

@robowisanveithasung6022

29 күн бұрын

An admin said the devs removed John voice lines to keep it consistent with other professional voice actors in paradoxum

unit only going to go hard we got crook elf tanks merc skeleton and now apc

Commander no longer number 1 support tower but became dps tower

Now the Pirate skin are now worth it cuz they added his line RAAAAAAAAA!

It seems like John just doesn’t exist anymore. All we have is the skin, and who knows, that might be removed later, too.

bru i was about to do the lucille strat

Honestly the stool commander have is cool but I prefer the wood stool because I love poor commander

I love old sound commander😢

i miss john voice:(

APC aint too op or weak its like mid way but very understandable for having a lvl 15 lock

sweaking is so used to the commander placement cost being 650 he put that in the vid (it's 850)

Although it’s sad John’s voice line is gone, the new guy is still quite good

Commander sounds more like a border patrol guard or somethin...

John said that other tower defense games will (or will not technically) use the tb (not stolen) commander. I knew it was coming just didnt know when. Also rip john voice and lucille strat (i dont use it cuz i dont have friends) Can't have nice things in tds can we? Well we can, we just need to pay for it ( i mean by real money)

3:05 the lv3 do more firerate buff but the lv4 do minor firerate buff? what

Tds really went full tb💀💀💀

Maybe commander got nerf on he buff but atleast he got the unit to change the buff reduce right guys?(But It's bad ok)

Even though Theres APC chaining is much worse and its cost like u can no longer do infinite commander chain with 3 commanders since 40 second cooldown for me this update is an L

Bro got MASSACRED 💀

Bro johns voice fit more than the new actor voice.

"heres three useless tanks and skin reworks to take your mind off the fact we nerfed the hell out of commander"

@vLon3wrld

Ай бұрын

facts like wtf

i like this change honestly, the new looks are cool and uhmm.... uhhhhh... erm what the sigma