The real question should be: What is France doing there?

@Crackshotsteph

Ай бұрын

Resources. The Island is rich with Nickel.

@noize2sound

Ай бұрын

This island has 25% world nickel reserves

@taualofaangaaelangi7920

Ай бұрын

That’s right! Just leave Pasifika alone France has damage our islands

@rogerevans7119

Ай бұрын

Keeping law and order. If the insurrectionists gain control is this the sort of indigenous state you want, where looting and rioting are par for the course and mob rule is sanctioned?

@bair8655

Ай бұрын

​@@rogerevans7119You are about Ukraine?

This is not a civil war. Stop sending the wrong signal. Kanaks are the indigenous land owners. Why should an European country decide their destiny?

New Caledonia has HUGE amounts of nickel which France has hauled out by the tonnes for years and years, earning FRANCE a fortune. New Caledonia is given a slice, but only a meagre slice.

@frednoname3714

Ай бұрын

Vous devriez vous renseigner mieux les calédoniens ont des lois TRES favorables à leur independance et ont perdu TROIS fois les TROIS référendum sur l'indépendance malgré un mode de scrutin TRES en leur faveur. Ce sont des MAFIEUX ! Ils ont même assassiné leur leader historique jean-marie Djibaou. Ce sont des psychopathes.

@alisyd5645

16 күн бұрын

Classic colonialism . Very sad. Godspeed independence and safety🎉🎉🎉.

...a very easy answer.... The French have never given up any of their colonies without a fight, e.g. Algeria and Vietnam. Their treatment of indigenous folk is consistently reprehensible.

@flapjawspace61

Ай бұрын

guess you missed the part of the segment where they rejected independence multiple times

@KIA-MIA-POW

Ай бұрын

@kevinmcgrath7953 ...didn't miss it at all, but don't get confused by the extremely small number of vocal indigenous folk who rely heavily on fly-in, fly-out Parisians for their livelihood.

@ambessaseway5594

Ай бұрын

​@KIA-MIA-POW 3 largest nickel producer in the world with only 300 thousand people could be 1 of the richest countries in the World

@alexanderrose1556

Ай бұрын

@@ambessaseway5594 No it couldnt nickel isnt worth that much

@rudiruttger

Ай бұрын

@@flapjawspace61 I doubt comments like his are actually concerned with the details, they exist to create discord.

When European say territory it means colony, right?

@Asgoga

Ай бұрын

When some random KZread comment say one thing it mean the other thing, right ?

@Kvasiir

Ай бұрын

Like Tibet? Oh wait..

@slender5738

Ай бұрын

​​@@Kvasiirnah actually Tibet and chinese have much in common etnically and linguistically what does kanaks and caucasian french have in common france is weak there are several player who can break them 😈

@yossarincatch6051

Ай бұрын

@@Asgoga Does not change fact that France is in Europe and NW is 1700 km in the pacific. Piss off or dont cry about the boats

@harryaurere2961

Ай бұрын

Forceful occupation

French settler colonialism has made the indigenous Kanak people a minority in their own land.

@jeanthill7497

Ай бұрын

Tell me where are you from and then I tell you about the story of your country...

@lastbruh62

Ай бұрын

​@@jeanthill7497we can't change what happen hundreds or even thousands of years ago , but we can change what is happening infront of our eyes rn , any French can go there , spend 10 years and then gains citizenship and the right to vote for the destiny of the country

Stop French colonization. It's ridiculous for an island in the Pacific to be part of France. If colonization continues, the local Kanaks will lose their island and become a minority in their homeland.

@christopher8022

Ай бұрын

Yes that's right they could be like the Solomon islands with gravel roads and tin sheds as the main Building Structures

@mourka01

Ай бұрын

​@christopher8022 if that is what people want that is how people should be allowed to live.

@Haupt1

Ай бұрын

Don’t end colonisation

@nvmtt1403

Ай бұрын

@@christopher8022 buddy, lets be real. most people living with a $3 minimum wage isnt going to be using cars or living in concrete buildings anyway. this is the loophole of capitalism. Does not matter who votes most, no one is required to contribute to any other group of people in any way.

@MrWhitmen1981

Ай бұрын

@@nvmtt1403with rising sea levels they might want to know to have you know mechanics that under stand boat and car engines. 😂

As an outsider, it seems to me that Paris is trying to pull a fast one over the indigenous Kanak people, so it’s no surprise the Kanaks have responded in a violent manner.

@adrienmartin8798

14 күн бұрын

as an outsider your opinion doesnt count

@paulpaid

8 күн бұрын

France "pulled a fast one" since 1853,

Boy France is having a rough time with its colonies. Got kicked out of Africa and now this. It better not let it turn into a little Algeria debacle.

@faa9261

Ай бұрын

It was never theirs in the first place. Damn thieves. Russia and China should support the natives militarily.

@aliokansarca1773

Ай бұрын

Neden izin verilmesin. Fransız halkının da canı yanmalı ve kanı akmalıdır

@jeanthill7497

Ай бұрын

Where are you from ? Just tell me to be curious ...

@moniho6907

Ай бұрын

They don't treat their territories good

end colonialism

@Asgoga

Ай бұрын

Tell that to New Caledonians who rejected independence by referendum 3 times.

@JBEMultimediamadrid

Ай бұрын

@@Asgoga Tell that to the colonial master is still uses her power to influence the results. Or you truly believe the people really want to remain under colonial control forever

@grem56

Ай бұрын

Colonialism is long over

@AH1-sr3bh

Ай бұрын

The natives dont want them there, rhats all. Those votes were fraudulent, you cant have a vote on occupied territory. ​@@Asgoga

@savanalexis1947

Ай бұрын

​@@AsgogaYES They are caldoches not The Kanak.This is indegious Kanak land not France or Western Land...

See what they've done to Haiti

@ancikul5969

Ай бұрын

Haiti has been free for a long time, almost 2 centuries. Now Haiti is very poor and constantly in chaos

@redmi26635

Ай бұрын

@@ancikul5969 France later demanded an “indemnity” from Haiti, which severely damaged the newly independent country’s ability to prosper.

@ancikul5969

Ай бұрын

@@redmi26635 maybe first 10-20 years but had 200 years independent!

@ooloongjohnson4015

Ай бұрын

no. Haiti is what it is because of Haiti. There are plenty of French colonies doing perfectly well today. You truly underestimate the human tendency to self mutilation.

@chriscarrol9373

Ай бұрын

What happens when you let children run the house.

Caledonia is the Kanak natives' country, all other non-Kanak immigrants were brought in by the French colonist, they are not qualified for Caledonia independence referendum which only the natives are qualified for.The France-brought-in immigrant population is bigger than Kanak population, given their votes in the referendum of course they vote against independence. Approving non-Kanak native immigrants to vote is the French colonist's plot to fail Caledonia independence referendum.

@petraravn5421

Ай бұрын

How long must you have resided in New Caledonia to have a say? Many non-Kanak have been there for generations. In Sweden, immigrants can become Swedish nationals after five years of residence. In France (Hexagone), it's ten years. The law makes no difference between nationals, claiming that some must not hav a say.

@kimduong2332

Ай бұрын

@@petraravn5421 The West laws are not international laws. The non-Caledonian immigrants are not allowed to have a say over Caledonian soveriegny, they can have a say of Caledonian construction.

@petraravn5421

Ай бұрын

@@kimduong2332 Wow! Having lived there for six generations, you do not have a say about the future of New Caledonia! Are you serious?

@eliteglobal3391

Ай бұрын

Javanese (Indonesian) have been live in New Caledonia since colonial era , they speak french and I don't think they consider themselves Indonesian. 😅

@ninarosalina4896

Ай бұрын

​@@petraravn5421Go ayaw coloniser

The indigenous people want their freedom. Forget about the votes of people who were transported there to up match the people

@pujolmathieu

Ай бұрын

Not all indegenous, and not the majority of New Caledonians. So they try to make a coup.

@chinglee100

Ай бұрын

If they get their freedom their quality of life will get worst and become just another 3rd world country 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@MountH212

Ай бұрын

@@chinglee100 Says a descendant of enslavers. Many island nations around Africa are doing fine after their independence. More to that, their freedom is their choice. It's better to be free than be a slave under a rich nation

@MountH212

Ай бұрын

@@pujolmathieu You can't speak for them. The problem is the law that France wants to impose on them

@barbarakauppi9915

Ай бұрын

They will become small and vulnerable to the overwhelming machinations of the CCP, which has clearly already been in progress for quite some time. Sheesh, this game is as old as the hills. Do try to keep up..

How did France occupy a place thousands of miles away from their homeland without us knowing? The island is huge. And they dare point finger at others. Sneaky francos

@paulpaid

8 күн бұрын

Where have you been? France has had more than 80 colonies.

Independence is the right of every nation

@vanillacuttings56

Ай бұрын

Yes but some immature ones are the potential of vultures… France is pampering New Caledonia since decades and it is a chance … see what happened in Vanuatu… In Haiti… we should avoid this.

@nickngunjiri4282

Ай бұрын

​@@vanillacuttings56 France is there to gain Nickel and resources, all exported to France. Indigenous are most impoverished in french territories

@eric6616

Ай бұрын

it wasn't so fro Artsakh for 35 years Armenians in their ancestral lands had a democracy but Azerbaijan ethnically cleansed the region. Now The Azeri's are causing problems in the middle of the pacific.

@RGJ757

27 күн бұрын

@@eric6616what is artsakh is it condom?

@eric6616

17 күн бұрын

@@RGJ757 the invention of the condom is older than so-called "Azerbaijan" state. Look it for your self

Correction... Forceful occupation by France of New Caledonia.

@kristijangrgic9841

Ай бұрын

Caledonia had 3 referendums on independence

@thepax2621

Ай бұрын

And the 3 referendums don't count... because? 🤔

@dav5844

Ай бұрын

No we are french, born french, since 6 generations. Stop spreading false informations

@MrX-il2jt

Ай бұрын

​@@kristijangrgic9841 There was a referendum in Russian occupied Ukrainian territory also

@MrX-il2jt

Ай бұрын

@@dav5844 27%😂😂

The irony in all of this is that France tried to change the New-Caledonian electorat with French supporters while the immigrants are doing the same in France right now. What France is living with its immigration issues is what Corsica and New-Caladonia have been living under French imperialism … ahh the irony !

@tiglishnobody8750

Ай бұрын

Only different is France just send their people to New Caledonia they controlled, no one send immigrant to France and no host country control France Immigrantion =/= coloznaion

@Dugar-III

15 күн бұрын

Underrated comment...this is the truth

2024 France still has colony land? what a civilized western world.

00:25 it’s important to note that the latest referendum was protested by the local population because it was during COVID and the indigenous people were disproportionately suffering at that time, they asked to delay the vote but Paris rejected their request

@robertchautardjensen6846

Ай бұрын

This is BS and a weak excuse, the fact is the Kanaks agreed to three referendums and they lost 3 to zero.

@carkawalakhatulistiwa

Ай бұрын

​@@robertchautardjensen6846 they lost because Paris imigran have more Population than native

@robertchautardjensen6846

Ай бұрын

@@carkawalakhatulistiwa How much French money have you and your family accepted? Why oh why would you want NC to turn its back on France, which has given large amounts of money to build a good society in NC over decades? Do you really think that China or Azerbaijan will give as much to the Kanaks as France has already done? Why destroy the shops that feed both Kanaks and Caldosh? Or is the whole sorry state of affairs being driven by hot heads who have no interest in either the Kanaks or the Caldosh and are only interested in looting and then burning the businesses that feed them?

@GokhanGursel-eu1xm

Ай бұрын

@@robertchautardjensen6846 With the garlic-scented votes you carry from France

@Uqwefsdjxsa

Ай бұрын

No, the reason why is because France had just done a vaccine rollout, and they did their overseas departments (New Caledonia, French Guinea, Tahiti etc) BEFORE Metropolitan France because the government knew that the locals there needed the vaccines more. This made the French government hugely popular for a moment of time with the people of New Caledonia and the independence parties knew this, which is why they chose not to vote knowing they would lose in a landslide, and decided to save face by boycotting. The excuse of “COVID really effected us Kanaks and our burials!” Is a fabricated lie.

I visited New Caledonia in 2022. It was such a beautiful and peaceful place. The island Lifou outside the main island is just mind blowing.

We are in 2024 and the French still have a colony. 😐

@markojuric4954

Ай бұрын

You do not understand democracy . . . 🙂

@thorpeaaron1110

Ай бұрын

It's an Overseas Territory.

@90taetaeya

Ай бұрын

@@thorpeaaron1110COLONY

@Ayayau57

Ай бұрын

@@90taetaeya A colony with subsidies from the central government? With a GDP/capita higher than most of its neighbors? And no, I am not French.

@mayatara1980

Ай бұрын

Still a colony ​@@Ayayau57

Free Kanaky which the colonizer changed its name to New Caledonia. The Kanak people are indigenous to Kanaky(New Caledonia). France must end its colonization, looting and all its known .... in Africa and elsewhere it did colonized and committed crimes for many, many years affecting 100s of millions in their own countries, regions and continents.

@blazer9547

Ай бұрын

Turks did worse.

@blazer9547

Ай бұрын

They voted to stay with France, 3 times. Azeri Turks are behind the riots

@merrick6484

Ай бұрын

French should just pack up and go.

@P00009

Ай бұрын

@@blazer9547 Yes, Turks did worse but France was historical ally of Ottomans and thanks to Paris they expanded. That continues even now, France support harassment of Serbs in Kosovo and Bosnia where literally Ottoman Empire 2.0 is getting built.

@user-ek9go3kf2w

Ай бұрын

One of their tradition is cannibalism.

FRANCE SHOULD GIVE CALEDONIA INDEPENDENCE

@zb1307

Ай бұрын

Good idea, Independence from civilised society and order. Within a month these coconuts will be demanding a hand outs from Australia

@tftfgubedgukm7911

Ай бұрын

@@zb1307 Typical French arrogance.

@eric6616

Ай бұрын

Azerbaijan should have recognized Artsakh instead of ethnic cleansing they committed in 2023

@barbarakauppi9915

Ай бұрын

Why?

New Caledonia kanaks the original people must be given the mandate to choose their own destiny. If its Independence or self government then let it be. This is the 21st century and FRANCE Government must seriously protect and respect the kanaks. That's where all the Melanesians have been living for generations and thousands of years. New Caledonia and West Irians should be free from foreign dominations and given back their liberties like any other Pacific island nations.

@jakesaunders8955

Ай бұрын

They have been given the right, hence the vote for independence. They voted no 3 times...

@user-ek9go3kf2w

Ай бұрын

Nice, so they will fall under Chinese influence and find a new master. Not sure if Australia will be happy to have a Chinese military base near by.

@savanalexis1947

Ай бұрын

​@@jakesaunders8955do you know that indigionous kanak makes 40 percent of The entire population? Most are caldoches thats why The referendum fail...Thats indigionous Kanak land ..France should leave...They want independence 😊

@markwin77

Ай бұрын

​@@jakesaunders8955the 3rd 1 was boycotted and the turnout to vote was far less due to covid-19 restrictions therefore a 91% remain. 1st was 41% 2nd was 47% both done 2 years apart the 3rd was done less then 12 months after the last 1 and the French used the Covid-19 pandemic to it's full advantage and the 3rd referendum was also viewed by everyone even the EU as illegal. The 3rd referendum should of been held at 2022.

@thegreatnormad3424

Ай бұрын

@@jakesaunders8955they were made minority therefore the referendum is free and fair because the colonial power brought planted new people

I wonder can Russia and others help now with weapons and experts to freedom fighters like France do in Ukraine or not if they will ask them for help?what will be the difference?

@harrowagenda21

Ай бұрын

Azerbaijan is an ally of the Kanak but has sent nothing.

@JeanFoutre-yi5us

Ай бұрын

​​@@harrowagenda21Because Azerbaidjan is just trying to pull one on France because they want to invade Armenia but Russia and France don't want to They don't give a sh... about new caledonia

COLONIAL TERRITORY😢

Full support for New Caledonia independence. The French have huge Nickel mines along with other minerals and they have been mining for many years. This is the real reason it's taking so long for the indigenous Kanak people to get their independence.

@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367

Ай бұрын

No kanaks have been a minority since the 19th century... There has been many votes for independence all have failed..

Stand With Caledonia From Iran 🇮🇷❤️🇳🇨

Free New Caledonia…. 🇳🇨 independence for New Caledonia…

French lands 10000 miles away? Naah

What happened to old calendonia

@raclark2730

Ай бұрын

Caledonia is a alternate name for bonnie Scotland.

@Howiex-is8gq

Ай бұрын

@@raclark2730 never heard of it 😂

@carkawalakhatulistiwa

Ай бұрын

Is like call new york. As old york town in England

@JeanFoutre-yi5us

Ай бұрын

​@@carkawalakhatulistiwaOr New Orlean the french town

France literally fighting to keep a rock in the pacific but will surrender French cities without a fight.

@JeanFoutre-yi5us

Ай бұрын

That's kind of true

There's no need for referendum just give the kanak people independence

@sidnas92

Ай бұрын

What about all the people that have lived there their entire lives that don't want independence? They don't get a say? Why does democracy only seem to matter to people some of the time?

@markojuric4954

Ай бұрын

@@sidnas92 People from four oblasts in Ukraine would agree with you . . . 🙂

@nvmtt1403

Ай бұрын

@@sidnas92 france can keep paying their salaries, if they really care about them in truth.

@JeanFoutre-yi5us

Ай бұрын

​@@nvmtt1403No we're just keeping our oversea territory it's easier and more efficient, cry about it

i've been to Noumea several times when i was working in fisheries, its the headquarters for SPC (secretariat of the pacific commission). its a lovely place but i rarely saw any indigenous people when i was there.....

Independence to Caledonia

@HannibalBarca247BCE

Ай бұрын

It's not what the people want.

@robertchautardjensen6846

Ай бұрын

Independence voted down three times by an agreed referendum. Riots in 1980's and again now. Do the Kanaks really believe they can gain independence by arson and out of the barrel of a gun? I don't think so.

@danielwells774

Ай бұрын

China has entered the chat.

@linusschmutz3985

Ай бұрын

Never Europe should rule this world

@ModernAffairs.

Ай бұрын

@@robertchautardjensen6846 because Native Kanak population is shrinking now they're around 41% of its population meanwhile French immigrant population is increasing

Freedom & Independence..✊Equal rights for all. End oppression, colonialism and illegal imperialism around the world!!

@freedombro6502

Ай бұрын

Haha naive. China will replace France in this case. Is that what you call independence? 😂

@AH1-sr3bh

Ай бұрын

​@freedombro6502 China never did anything to the Kanak people, unlike France which literally enslaved them. So go away with that kindergarten logic, whoever the natives choose to do diplomacy with is none of your concern.

@shauncameron8390

Ай бұрын

@@AH1-sr3bh But China is no less a colonizer than France. Just ask a Tibetan.

@nvmtt1403

Ай бұрын

@@freedombro6502 china has no control near australian waters. The natives know that if china plays up, they can just throw them out and the local countries will support them. they know what they are doing.

@ninarosalina4896

Ай бұрын

​@@freedombro6502Go ayaw coloniser

France is back to democracy Louis XIV style.

Not civil war but independence war!

Then give the indigenous people the same rights and the same benefits as the people on mainland have

Hey France.. do you remember when you voted for Kosovo independence?

Down with the European colonialism

If white French can "immigrate" into New Caledonia, Kanak citizens can move over to France (schooling, job opportunities)? Seems pretty balanced, eh.

@scottscouter1065

Ай бұрын

Both Alaska and Hawaii were "territories" of the USA gained full status as States, so there's that.

@jesusaguilar4585

Ай бұрын

​@@scottscouter1065Hawaii still has a native population that does not want to be part of the US. Hawaii itself only became a territory of the US after the overthrow of the monarchy at the behest of American sugar interests and the sentiments against US rule were born from this.

@scottscouter1065

Ай бұрын

​@@jesusaguilar4585 Hawaii has a very diverse population. Some members of indigenous Hawaiian population have advocated for independence but they have limited support within even within their own communities. The advantages of being US citizens are too good to give up.

@robertchautardjensen6846

Ай бұрын

They already do and their studies are paid by France.

@jesusaguilar4585

Ай бұрын

@@scottscouter1065 I'm sure there are some advantages for sor some native peoples in Hawaii as there are for some in the mainland but when it counts for them in times of crisis such as the recent mass fires you will see that the money and funding will not go to them but rather to areas for redevelopment of private interests groups.

The French claim it is an integral region of France. But when it came to the EU, France claimed New Caledonia was NOT an integral region of France. NC does not use the Euro, it uses the Pacific Franc. New Caledonia does NOT vote for MEPs, and is NOT represented in the European Parliament. The Schengen open border agreement does NOT apply to New Caledonia. Kanaks have no rights to work in the EU.

@JeanFoutre-yi5us

Ай бұрын

That's their own choice since they want a bigger autonomy. Can't have everything, can't be autonomous and evade Bruxelles tyranny while having all of Bruxelles benefits

In this context, France hasn't changed that much since the 1800s. They have terrible relationships with all their former colonies. It's very easy to see why, from Central African Republic to South America they are constantly trying to take from and advantage of the people. Their policies are still as racist as when they were in control of North Africa. Makes me wonder why their culture is so exalted around the world

New Caledonia had 3 referendums for independence from 🇫🇷 and all 3 times voted to stay French. Make up your minds.

@markojuric4954

Ай бұрын

And who made the law on referendums and, most importantly, who counts the votes . . .

@savanalexis1947

Ай бұрын

Hi IronMan-if4ke, who makes up more of The population Kanak or caldoches? And New caledonia is for Kanak or caldoches???😊if you know The answer then stop Saying The Referendum

@IronMan-if4ke

Ай бұрын

Just vote and get a majority of residents to vote for independence. France won’t get its feelings hurt, and more likely be glad no longer have to pay a fortune for that island, its infrastructure and services. But I have a sneaky suspicion that locals, like those in Corsica, want that safety net financial guarantee from 🇫🇷.

@DineshTwanabasu

Ай бұрын

​@@IronMan-if4keHahaha, french just loots others, we know 500 years of history and looting since then. So leave them alone

@vastpeople9623

Ай бұрын

Grow up, majority vote is the French settles, and token immigrants who despise the Kanak people. The Kanak voted for independence constantly.

No. Signs of independence. Full support to native Kanak people.

Make New Caledonia Native Again

@user-nz1er3se6b

Ай бұрын

And it will go down the drain

@j.r.freeman9420

Ай бұрын

​@@user-nz1er3se6bthen so be it... not your decision🤷🏿‍♂️

@TheRealZeke2003

Ай бұрын

Make Europe European Again

@frankyyaggabot6222

Ай бұрын

Can't bring the Lapitas back unfortunately - the Kanaks made sure of that!

@j.r.freeman9420

Ай бұрын

@@TheRealZeke2003 yes and stay there

Not meaning to belittle a very serious issue, but how did this place get called New Caledonia (Scotland)..?

@marccru

Ай бұрын

was wondering the same

@jtothed8575

Ай бұрын

James Cook named it

@jameshorner7816

Ай бұрын

Apparently it's coastal cliffs resemble those in Scotland.

@V-vk7vo

Ай бұрын

There was a time when Europeans thought that everywhere should be Europe, and had little to no regard for other people's lived experience in places outside of Europe.

@aldozilli1293

Ай бұрын

​@@V-vk7vonot just Europeans, stop trying to demonise people just for being born in Europe

FREE NEW CALEDONIA

So much unrest. Hopefully the people can come to a solution.

@nancymarshall6014

Ай бұрын

@@socarsocar601 perhaps...it's a dam mess.

@karnubawax

Ай бұрын

The people are fine. It's their colonial masters that are not happy.

Best magpies in the world live on New Caledonia. Magpies free from French colonists!

@harrowagenda21

Ай бұрын

And super intelligent!

"Storm Troopers are leaving Coruscant on a mission to bring the situation on Alderaan under control"

The Kanaks want independence so badly, but they cannot go to polls because of covid. The rest of the population did though. One might suspect that they boycotted the referendum because they were going to lose it for the 3rd time in a row.

Free Caledonia! No more aphartid in 21 century.

@HecClaytos4956

Ай бұрын

Allowing people who've been living in a place for 10 years to vote. Omg such apartheid!

@MrWhitmen1981

Ай бұрын

If you think taxation without representation is ok. Prepare to lose and be enslaved by the enlightenment.

@JeanFoutre-yi5us

Ай бұрын

"no more apartheid" so you are in favour of France reform to allow French citizens born after 1998 in New Caledonia to get the right to vote? 🤣

That territory doesn’t belong to france. That territory with return sooner or later to its true owner: the *people of Kanaky* . France is in europe.

What next ? Chinese colony .

Leet us see if there will be protest in universities for this one

@harrowagenda21

Ай бұрын

Happening in France

@j.r.freeman9420

Ай бұрын

Don't need... We, their Pacific Island brothers got their backs

@frankyyaggabot6222

Ай бұрын

@@j.r.freeman9420 The Melanesians or the Polynesians that used to occupy the islands prior?

@whatabouttheearth

Ай бұрын

Are you referring to protests in US universities? If so you're a brainless wonder. Those protests are because the US government funds 60% of the Israeli military and the IDF killed over 35,000 innocent people, and so the students AS US CITIZENS are protesting their government. The US government doesn't fund and prop up the French government.

@whatabouttheearth

Ай бұрын

Are you referring to protests in US universities? If so you're a brainless wonder. Those protests are because the US government funds 60% of the Israeli military and the IDF killed over 35,000 innocent people, and so the students AS US CITIZENS are protesting their government. The US government doesn't fund and prop up the French government.

Free New Caledonia

There were 3 times referendum to get independent if they wanted - all 3 times they voted to stay part of France. Now, some are upset that French people who lived their for 10 years could vote. Lots of strange comments here. Some people need to be educated.

@Micha_mg

Ай бұрын

Like election cant be rigged when billions of dollars are at stake. You want to look smart, but you’ve managed the opposite, pumpkin.

French Neo colonialism at its finest. I am actually happy that Russia has upset the imperialist status quo in "French West Africa" No amount of Euros will douse the indigenous Kanak peoples will for independence

@jonye7511

Ай бұрын

You can't be the brightest if you think Russia has liberated the people... They just replaced their influence their own and now watch the decline of living standards for the ordinary citizens. Only leaders will benefit. Africa 2.0 with Russia the neo-colonialist.

@JeanFoutre-yi5us

Ай бұрын

"no amount of euros" that's right, even for free they don't want independance, already voted 3 times against it

A gde je Nova Kaledonija? U Francuskoj? Gde? 2:48

This sounds hauntingly familiar.

French Guyana soon do the same people want their freedom and independent now

native wants independence which the frenchy don't want to give up.

Why is EU quite about it...when they lecture others about democracy...shame on EU and france

@marccru

Ай бұрын

The EU is in a weird position right now.

Amazing that you invited all the people outside instead of someone from there

Comment la France peut elle prendre une telle décision sans l'autorisation et l'approbation des peuples indigènes,,, C' est un OUTRAGE,,,,

The French should really build New Caledonia with the billions and billons of dollars that its been robbing from there for such a long time. And let New Caledonia be a totally independent country.

I’m all down for letting the natives decided their own fate and not have non-natives vote, but let’s keep up this energy in Europe

😢😢😢😢😢 that's what happens when y.all push poor people to the limit they would gave up on fight for what is best for them and their families enough is enough too much corruption that are taking advantage of the poor and the needy one's

Its one of those places where locals were not completely exterminated

@JeanFoutre-yi5us

Ай бұрын

Like basically in 99% of the scenarios...

This is a mess. 44% of the population are indigenous Kanaks. 33% are French. 23% are “other”, mainly Indonesians, Vietnamese, Islanders from elsewhere in the Pacific etc. The “others” and the French vote together on most issues. This means the Kanaks are outvoted every time. France needs to get out of the Pacific.

@MrWhitmen1981

Ай бұрын

So you are saying 44% should determine the outcome come of the another 56%. What is your argument people are not equal? If you believe in that logic then Britain’s may as well rule the world again. 😂

@rosshilton

Ай бұрын

@@MrWhitmen1981 1. New Caledonia was included in the UN decolonisation list in 1946. This was reconfirmed by the UN Decolonisation Committee on 28 October 1987. The French response on both occasions was to claim it was an integral region of France. 2. The French Socialist Government of Mitterand promised and prepared a bill in April 1985 to move New Caledonia towards independence by 1986 through a referendum. This did not take place. 3. At the 1988 Paris talks the Matignon Accord was reached, providing the broad framework of a ten year transition plan leading to the decolonisation of New Caledonia. This did not take place and let to riots. 5. Between 1990 and 2013, the population of New Caledonia grew from 169,000 to 256,000. During that 23 year period the New Caledonia birthrate dropped from 17.53 per thousand to just 8.72 per thousand, almost exactly half. This means means that most of the 87,000 population increase were external arrivals, mostly from France.

@antimatter31

Ай бұрын

France needs to import more Europeans to control the island, including troops and settlers.

@derfelcadarn8230

Ай бұрын

@@rosshilton Demographics is destiny. The French know that. The Kanaks know that. It is exactly for this reason that the protests have turned violent very quickly and that in return, France will do everything it can to crush the rioters. I simply hope from the bottom of my soul that the situation in New Caledonia will not evolve into a new Algeria.

@marccru

Ай бұрын

and half of them want to stay with France

Freedom for people of Caledonia.

@larsrons7937

Ай бұрын

New Caledonia. Calidonia (without new) is a part of Scotland.

So you telling me you were not able to find a single Kanak person to talk to you about their situation or you just chose not to do it and instead invited two European academics for the narrative?

@ritchirodenbach8972

Ай бұрын

Thats how colonization and the west is working

And who will pay for New Caledonia when they become independent. Can they really support themselves? Unlikely

@angelreyes4595

Ай бұрын

The french will pay after all the stealing of the resources in colonialism and racist europeon governing .

@markwin77

Ай бұрын

They've got natural resources especially nickel. If nationalised or a Norwegian style sovereign fund is formed with the funds from the nickel mined and managed properly it will be be the 3rd wealthiest nation behind Australia and New Zealand in the south Pacific in it's own right.

@montanareacts8835

Ай бұрын

Leave them alone to decide wat they want ...u can't move there n in 10 years start voting...leave them alone

@daphuc502

Ай бұрын

who cares . There is absolutely nothing more valuable than freedom. In Vietnam we had very tough times after wars with France US China ..ect.. but now we are doing just fine.

@juderamnarine5617

Ай бұрын

They were living well before the French discovered they weren’t armed.

It had too much strategic importance to be given up.

French colonialism is the real issue here. The indigenous people are tired of France and its criminal colonial mindset.

@user-zx9ys8xg2x

Ай бұрын

If not French then China as we seen a new trend around the world! Keep em away!

@RUTHLESSambition5

Ай бұрын

They need to call Russia.

@marccru

Ай бұрын

Wait till you see what happens when they leave.

@jakebhenry2228

Ай бұрын

This isn’t true, French rule is popular given 3 referendums for independence was rejected. I say the end of this is more likely self-government under French supervision in which the island governs itself.

@evilkhamzat

Ай бұрын

@@jakebhenry2228you colonists always fail to mention that the final election was boycotted in any other situation the results would be denounced but since it benefits you frogs you ignore that detail and repeat this 1/2 truth!

9:18 "Brûling" = franglais for "burning."

Civil war or fighting a european occupation? The main questions I have is who supplied the weapons and why France thinks the Kanak can be ignored?

@harrowagenda21

Ай бұрын

You can openly buy hunting rifles, with a licence, in New Caledonia. However the bullets are running out and all the shops are closed.

It doesnt have artical 5 protection. So why not invade.

It is unbelievable that there are still the colonized places in the world. Strong countries still exploit small countries. So sad. Just let all places independent.

I wonder if we will be looking into 3000 years of the islands history to solve this one

if they become independent they will just be another Haiti

@BlackScisir

27 күн бұрын

Yeah let's not immediatly crucify france for not giving independence to a colony that voted 3 times to stay a colony. I'm all for independence to all nations but a lot of times these colonial areas actually receive more money from the government than they produce. I'm going to need more information to make up my mind. Maybe it really is just a bunch of hooligans.

Nickel is commonly used in Electric Car Batteries, so is Cobalt which is almost exclusively mined in the Republic of Congo in Africa .... Which is also facing a Civil War.

"New Caledonia" will become a great tourist destination in a few years when the unrest calms down. It will probably be similar to "Hawaii" The island is close to other islands in Oceania. (This means the island will attract other islanders)

@Liana_St

Ай бұрын

It's similar to Hawaii now. In a few years under Chinese regime New Caledonia at the very best become poor, corrupt, full of crime like neighboring Papua New Guinea.

@jiaweike3518

Ай бұрын

@@Liana_St According to sources online; It is a French Colony. So the French have authority over it. I don't know if the Chinese want to rule "New Caledonia". I doubt it. There isn't much interest. I don't speak on behave of the Chinese.

@user-ek9go3kf2w

Ай бұрын

@@jiaweike3518 Well, the indigenous people are aware about this?

@kehn9

Ай бұрын

20 year or maybe not

@frankyyaggabot6222

Ай бұрын

Nothing like Hawaii - it used to be (with a Polynesian population). This population was massacred by the colonising Kanaks (Melanesians). It will probably end up like Papua New Guinea.

So many self entitled people supporting colonialism🤢

Let me guess it's Putin Fault?

@jonye7511

Ай бұрын

Israel's. America's.

@shizzynwa

Ай бұрын

They will blame it on Trump somehow.

@GokhanGursel-eu1xm

Ай бұрын

Actually azerbaijan, frenchs are nuts

@ooloongjohnson4015

Ай бұрын

nah, it's America's fault, obviouly. American spies and stuff

Stand strong my fellow Austronesian brothers/sisters

Well if that isn't a biased document, what is...

Just let them be independent, France is too far and the world is to futuristic for colonial rule to occur

@blazer9547

Ай бұрын

Azeris didn't allow artsakh to be independent, Armenians are indigenous there

@blazer9547

Ай бұрын

New Caledonia is sovereign France. They rejected independence 3 times. Azeris are behind tension Because France supported Armenia.

@aynhiayraadr6599

Ай бұрын

Your the ones facing a riot right now, be a man, don't deflect, deal with the issues at hand.

@P00009

Ай бұрын

@@blazer9547 😆Rejected by French settlers not by autochthonous people

@aynhiayraadr6599

Ай бұрын

@@blazer9547 France passed laws that purposely hard for indigenous people to vote. I love how you're so deluded you can see clearly it's not a minority otherwise 1000+ soldiers would not be needed.

At the end of WW2, UN require all country to let colony have the rights to go independent. Did New Caledonia chose to independent at that time? If not, it is forever a France internal affair.

So, France still be kicking the can down the road pretending not knowing what´s going on. In the end of the road they should expect something.

The indigenous are the majority on the northeast side of the island, and French are the majority on the southwest side of the island, right? Then split the island in two. Draw a line through the middle, the southwest side stays French, and the northeast side becomes independent. People who would rather live on the other side of the island can move. There, problem solved. In the American Revolution, a lot of people were loyalists. When the revolution ended and the patriots won, the loyalists didn't leave North America, they just moved to Canada. The emigration of loyalists during the American Revolution is why Canada and the United States are different countries, and why the majority of Canadians speak English instead of French today. We don't have to get real creative here, all we have to do is look to history for solutions that have worked in other times and places. This ain't rocket surgery, people.

@nvmtt1403

Ай бұрын

compare french and british history. when has france ever given up territory voluntarily?

@benjauron5873

Ай бұрын

@@nvmtt1403 What’s that have to do with what I said?

@V-vk7vo

Ай бұрын

Or, the Kanak assert their right of self-determination free of European colonization, form government, and gain independence. Anyone who wants to stay can stay.

@nvmtt1403

Ай бұрын

@@benjauron5873 you are either naive or delusional if you think the french will split the territory without violence. they dont do that.

@benjauron5873

Ай бұрын

@nvmtt1403 First of all, you're wrong. Not every former colonial possession of France's is Indochina or Algeria, those are two outliers. France granted most independence without violence. But more importantly, *THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT I SAID!* Even of you were right, and countries like Madagascar, Guinea, Gabon, Chad, etc. only got their independence after protracted colonial wars, it doesn't change the point I made in my original post. My point is about what they SHOULD do TODAY, not what they HAVE done in THE PAST. You SERIOUSLY need to work on your reading comprehension skills, dude.

that professor didn't answer a single question he just spat out history lessons

@Darkhorse1975

Ай бұрын

Most of humanities most pressing issues today usually come with a lot of historic baggage.

@marcob1729

Ай бұрын

almost like current events tend to be rooted in history or something

@harrowagenda21

Ай бұрын

He said what he was asked. Then they turned to another person.

When you send police internationally, don’t they become some sort of military instead of a police force? I feel like this is disingenuous to all parties involved.

@robertchautardjensen6846

Ай бұрын

Ahhh so you think France should not protect all New Caledonians from a small minority who are rioting, destroying property and murdering people.

@MrWhitmen1981

Ай бұрын

Legally for France it’s defined as a domestic issue.

Fascinating. Absolutely fascinating. The human race, in its multifarious forms, is a source of inexhaustible interest.

thats wat happends when the french trying to create chaos in the balkans/middle east they got karma

I would like to see them become independent, but I’m afraid that they would be invaded by another country eventually…or become indebted to or exploited by another country.

@IMSerious209

Ай бұрын

A very likely scenario. Suspect current unrest is being fanned by opportunistic forces.

@j.r.freeman9420

Ай бұрын

They will seek new allies to do business and probably protect them... it pays to be nice to the natives... always

Il n'appartient pas à ceux qui ont traité les Kanaks moins que des animaux de décider si ce pays occupé doit être libéré ou non. Il est important de reconnaître que les descendants des colons occidentaux, qui ont commis des crimes dans ce pays, sont favorables à la France et ne peuvent donc pas décider pour les Kanaks. La décolonisation entraîne souvent le départ de ceux qui ne souhaitent pas vivre dans le pays une fois libéré. Les racistes qui souhaitent dominer à distance, en l'occurrence par la France, ne devraient pas avoir leur mot à dire. À mon avis, seuls les Kanaks devraient voter pour ou contre l'indépendance. Si une majorité d'entre eux choisit de rester français, alors une décision pourrait être prise. Cependant, ceux qui ont profité de la colonisation ne devraient pas influencer le processus de décolonisation. Il existe un peuple Kanak qui réclame des réparations. Les colons blancs qui sont venus en Nouvelle-Calédonie n'ont pas de réparations à exiger, car ils sont de toute façon partisans de la France, ce qui perpétue leur histoire honteuse. A mon avis le respect passe aussi par la reconnaissance des crimes mais aussi des réparations, dans ce cas précis, il s'agit d'une décolonisation. Les nouveaux arrivés qui ne sont pas nés en NC ne devraient pas être utilisés pour....

The population of New Caledonia? Which are you referring too? Including the colonies civilians