Had a blast doing this - and Central Jersey exists, no matter what anyone tries to tell you!

@MilesinTransit

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for showing me around the foamer holy land of Central Jersey, Jeremy!

@moishglukovsky

2 жыл бұрын

The southern edge of Central Jersey is where the diners know what scrapple is, but they don't serve it.

@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45

2 жыл бұрын

It's like Western Massachusetts. It exists, no matter how many people try to cover it up.

@justinroig5858

2 жыл бұрын

5:49 Despite the fact I’m a proud South Jersey person and would never admit the the existence of a central jersey, I can’t disagree with Jeremy’s boundaries and the definitions listed. Great video both of you!

@hatchsp

Жыл бұрын

There is a Central Jersey and--in my opinion--your defining boundaries are reasonable. The only issue with using the train as a guide is that it cuts across the state from Trenton to Newark, which leaves a lot more NJ territory south of the train corridor. If you consider that the Garden State Parkway runs 172 miles north to south along the eastern side of the state, then one could argue that central NJ is between exits 57 and 114 on the GSP. That's Little Egg Harbor/Tuckerton to Holmdel/Middletown. How ironic that MIDDLEtown is arguably the northern boundary of CENTRAL New Jersey?!? The only reason I use the GSP mileage as a guide is because I grew up in Brick, NJ, exit 89, which is pretty close to the middle of the GSP. In Brick, we get both Philly and NYC broadcasts. But really, the most reasonable definition of Central NJ is this: twitter.com/NJGov/status/1375480254303772676?s=20&t=7C08u7m0SaF_d-6LmMfcHw.

I agree with the HSR central jersey definition haha. (Also I thought that I commented when this came out, but I guess it never posted 😅)

The Acela central jersey definition changed my life

@JacksonBetz

2 жыл бұрын

it's as good as any definition I've ever encountered

@MilesinTransit

2 жыл бұрын

It's a really good one!

The space where the Dunkin is located used to be a barber shop. The lone barber, who was in his 70s and had been there forever, was kicked out in 2003 or 2004 to make way for the donuts. The city of New Brunswick then rented him space in the basement of one of the downtown parking garages. He was quite a character with a ton of stories.

@kevinwong6588

Жыл бұрын

Has to be 2003 or slightly earlier, as I recall Dunkin Donuts in the station as of October 2003.

@johnlister

Жыл бұрын

There was also a small newsstand that served awful coffee.

As soon as I read the title, I just knew Alan was in the video. I thought, how could he go to New Brunswick and NOT do a crossover with Alan. Despite this, I still internally screamed a little when Alan appeared. Looks like you had fun!

@MilesinTransit

2 жыл бұрын

He had a fantastic entrance!

@alanthefisher

2 жыл бұрын

I'm very elusive obviously

I have family in central Jersey so the Trenton to Princeton Junction bus ride was oddly nostalgic. And yes, they get both cities' channels at their house.

I almost misread this title. I thought it said the least used NJT station. This is the busiest line on NJT. But yeah this and Princeton Junction are the least used station along the NEC when it comes to Amtrak. Nice that you came to my state. Watching from Jersey City!

I am genuinely shocked that this is the least used station. I traveled through here 8 different times to get to Rutgers marching band practice last summer (I was living in Northern VA so Amtrak from DC was my best bet) and I’d have thought WAY more people use it. Hope they don’t stop using it as a station!

@MilesinTransit

2 жыл бұрын

It's one of those cases where even the least used station gets DECENT ridership, just worse than others! I think they ought to have more trains stop there.

@Christerbob

Жыл бұрын

Correct me if I’m wrong but all Amtrak serves in NJ is Trenton, Prin Jct, NB, Newark airport, and Newark Penn right? That’s the only reason tbh.

@jrc774

4 ай бұрын

​@@Christerbobmetropark

23:22 I have actually sat in a coach seat for 15 hours on the SB Palmetto, and I must say, it’s very comfortable. Amtrak does a great job with their long-distance coach seats. There’s enough legroom for me to extend my legs all the way out (I’m 6’ 1) and the seats have all kinds of bells and whistles

THE most ambitious crossover episode!

So I'm from Michigan, and in 2019 was visiting family in New Jersey, so as part of the trip I decided to take the Northeast Regional from Baltimore to New Brunswick. When my train left, I had the same feeling of loneliness and dread like you described, especially as it was evening (like in this video). Now, I'm a wheelchair user, and as I spent about an hour railfanning the station, I noticed a sign saying the elevator on my platform (northbound) was out of service. So when my ride came, we had to ask help from some police officers to get me down to street level. It was great railfanning New Brunswick, but it gave me the scariest commute experience of my life so far.

@MilesinTransit

2 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry, that sounds awful. I'm glad you were able to get help! It's too bad, this is usually one of the most accessible least used stations on the system.

@johnlister

Жыл бұрын

Finally, after n years (where n>5) they have finished repairing the elevator midway along the platform so two elevators now have to fail before there is no accessible way to the platform. Of course on the other side, it’s a no-brainer because of the bridge and the walkway on the other side but, curiously, NJ Transit doesn't seem to acknowledge its existence in announcements when the southern (Western according to NJ Transit-speak) bound elevator goes out of service.

You should make more video's with Jeremy. Good chemistry you both have together on screen.

@MilesinTransit

2 жыл бұрын

More to come!

@edwinjrpinney4651

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Miles. Thnx for saying hello. Also thnx to you When I visit Philadelphia in September for my birthday I will be taking Public Transit for the 1st time EVER. Not even here in Canada have I taken or used the T.T.C. Toronto's Transit System. So this will be an experience all on its own. After watching your recent video with Jeremy and yourself going to the unused Amtrak stn. I feel a bit more comfortable traveling on the Train. I even went as far to download the Septa Map schedule and plan out my journey from the Airport to the Hotel in Wayne. Thnx Miles for that xtra push I needed not to Rent a car during my stay and take Transit for a few days to get around.

@MilesinTransit

2 жыл бұрын

That's awesome! I'm really happy you got inspired to use transit!

Jeremy + Miles was unbelievably wholesome content.

I very much like how there’s a whole elevated section of pedestrian way that runs from the station into New Brunswick proper. I love that. I love this station. So much.

I love your videos! I can't wait to start exploring the Philadelphia, NY, and NJ transit after growing up riding the transit in DC and Baltimore.

Also, Jeremy mentioned Jersey Ave is the first US Park & Ride station; it's one of the first but not *the* first, since Westwood/128 was opened by the New Haven as a P&R 10 years earlier

@MilesinTransit

2 жыл бұрын

Oh wow, good to know! Thanks for the clarification!

@jeremyzorek

2 жыл бұрын

@@MilesinTransit I didn't know that either! You learn something new every day!

you should do a video about the Rutgers Campus Buses - fare free, the second-largest bus service in New Jersey after NJ Transit, and one of the largest university bus systems in the country!

@MilesinTransit

2 жыл бұрын

Jeremy suggested that to me too!

@awesome4330

2 жыл бұрын

@@MilesinTransit if you're back in the area I think the Metuchen station is worth checking out - one of my favorite stations on the NJ Transit NE Corridor and located right in the downtown of a cute little commuter suburb

Had to help a friend of mine carry his broken luggage to the train here a few days ago. I'm surprised this station isn't that popular given how there's Rutgers and many good restaurants here

@MilesinTransit

2 ай бұрын

It's very busy for NJT! It's just that Amtrak serves it less than other NJ stations so it's by default lesser-used.

As a Brit who's managed to wrap my head around German trains and is currently trying the same with those in the US, it's going to take some getting used to the fact that the River Line units have a bell (knowledge I only gained at the beginning of this video). Perfectly reasonable given the country and the presence of street running, just really strange at first.

@himbourbanist

Жыл бұрын

I'm American and I was surprised that the River Line has a bell, lol

I live in Southern Indiana a forlorn public transportation desert. I used drive trucks and buses up and down the east coast. I am 71 yrs old so I am a little dated. I was stationed in Lakehurst New Jersey in 1969. I have always been envious of the public transportation between Philly and NYC. BTW loved riding the subways for entertainment in NYC when I was stationed at Lakehurst.

When I worked in New Brunswick and lived on Long Island, I would take Amtrak from New Brunswick to Bridgeport, CT, then take the Port Jeff Ferry to Long Island. It was a nice scenic way to spend a Friday evening. Although, depending on quitting time I'd have to take NJT to Metropark. BTW I can't believe that elevator is still out. It was out all of 2021.

So glad you had Alan and Jeremy collab on this video. It was very entertaining

Hi, This video was so much fun to watch. You guys seem to really enjoy yourselves. I grew up in the Philly area during the 1990s and used to plan trips around the region just to ride different trains and see transportation centers. I would take the train ( formerly the R5 ) to Market East Station. In the waiting area they had every bus/train paper time table. I would grab as many as I could fit into my jacket pocket. Going to the different stations and how they were all set up, was always cool for me. Have a great holiday and looking forward

@MilesinTransit

Жыл бұрын

You as well, thank you for watching!

Excellent Foaming video cleverly disguised as a station report. Good job!

@DinoSarma

5 ай бұрын

What is a foamer shot? They mention it several times.

@stephenkeever6029

5 ай бұрын

From the internet: “Foamers” is how railroad employees refer to railfans because they think we “foam” at the mouth anytime we see a train. To them, railroading is just a job. To us, it's a passion.@@DinoSarma

Another one in the series! This least uses station must be a heavily used one compared to other states, given that it’s on the NEC.

@metrofilmer8894

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. With it being right next to the 50k student Rutgers University, I’d imagine that it’s still much busier of a rail station than most of the stations in NJ

When I was at Rutgers around 25 years ago, NJTransit's NE Corridor line's stop at New Brunswick station was my lifeline to Philly and NY via the connections to SEPTA's former R7 Trenton local and to NYC Penn Station. I didn't have a car then, but didn't feel restricted at all because of the convenient rail connections between NJTransit and Philly and NYC's subway systems. Amtrak mostly flew by New Brunswick station on the express tracks on the way to NYC, rarely stopping on the local tracks. The locals were generally for NJTransit locomotives. I take it not much has changed? BTW, I like how you took PATCO and the River line up to Trenton (River line didn't exist back then) instead of SEPTA, which is almost a third of the price: 1.60 + 1.40 (PATCO + River) vs. 8.25 (SEPTA travel wallet).

@MilesinTransit

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, sounds like not much has changed since then!

There's only one regional boundary that matters in NJ. That's the Taylor Ham/Pork Roll line.

Best Collaboration ever

Omg, that wegmans was where I grocery shopped as a kid! you went straight through my hometown

I went to new brunswick yesterday and it was awesome

This was the train station I used to go to the city while growing up .... And in college, too

Wow, if I had a nickel for every time you said “opine” in this video, I'd have two nickels - which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.

@MilesinTransit

2 жыл бұрын

It's a good word!!

Hometown!

Once Amtrak opens the new line from NYC to Scranton, you'll probably have to re-do this for one of the stations on that line. Given that NJT provides so much good local service to New Brunswick and Princeton Junction, I wouldn't expect Amtrak to increase their service at either station.

this is the most relatable video i have ever watched

Idk where Central Jersey is but I know that Six Flags exists within it.

Luv your videos . Keep up the grea work!!!

@MilesinTransit

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Central Jersey is between Toms River, the spur where I-95 leaves the Pike, and where the Parkway is east of the Pike

According to Great American Stations FY 2022 usage was over 21000 people, still the least used station

bro you and alan fischer are literally the goats of covering jersey and philly transit goated collab

@MilesinTransit

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

During my first year at Rutgers (1988), I once caught an NJT to Manhattan. I remember being surprised that (1) Amtrak also served the New Brunswick station, and (2) a blurb on their regional schedule mentioned the idea of a "megalopolis" in explaining their Metroliner service.

I used to believe that Central Jersey doesn't exist, but during this video I've come to believe. I believe Central Jersey exists, and its northern boundary is the Westbound 195, and the southern boundary is the Eastbound 195.

Wow…celebrity sightings, too!

Those were some HOT foamer shots.

This really is a damn good station. We have it pretty good along the NEC

TIL Alan's voice matches his stature, Jesus lol. But fr, this video makes Central Jersey, at night, in the fall and winter seem so freaking... *quaint*

This video is really nostaglic for me. Dated a girl who was going to Rutgers years ago and used to take the train from Philly to New Brunswick all the time. The station is also featured in an important scene in a Junot Diaz novel.

Central Jersey is as real as a good New York driver

Yeah personally my definition of Central Jersey is where you can switch from the New York to Philly NPR stations during pledge breaks. I grew up there but can't tell you where it starts or ends

@jrc774

4 ай бұрын

90.9 and 93.3

That section you looped through on Route 1 on the bus is one of the true nightmare interchanges anywhere - from Quakerbridge Road to 95 it is just nightmare merges and short cloverleafs all over.

Central Jersey is Real and Mercer Co is it. And yes both stations ny and philly. Fun fact it took me 8 years to get parking at Princeton junction. but now i use Ramsey Route 17 way up north. They also have those bike boxes at Princeton junction.

DUDE! PATCO! It's so surreal seeing all the trains I ride.

I think Central Jersey is where they sell the merchandise for the Philadelphia and New York City teams.

Nobody uses New Brunswick because it's better drive or take the train to MetroPark than to get on the infrequent northeast regional trains. The real question is how the hell does an isolated suburban office park that is MetroPark still exist in 2022? And similarly why can't New Brunswick attract any corporate tennants (beyond J&J and RWJ Hospital) for its downtown? Seems like a lot of potential in New Brunswick, and yet.

@DonTako47

Жыл бұрын

Hell of a question

@mmnj6963

Жыл бұрын

It's hardly "isolated." It's right off the Garden State Parkway, near Route 1, and not far from the NJTurnpike.

I’m sure u noticed but the New Brunswick station house is eerily similar to that of the Chester transportation center

I wonder what New Jersey’s least used amtrak station be after the Lackawanna cutoff gets trains back on it to scranton

Great Alan Fisher Armchair Urbanist cameo

How did you get to Port Jervis and what did you do in Atlantic City?

It's obvious that this station has the asterisk next to its name that while it's the least used Amtrak Station in NJ, it's because of multiple reasons including most routes bypassing New Brunswick between Metropark and Trenton, the availability of local trains via NJTransit, and less to do with people not wanting to use the train at all like some "least used" stations will be if you wind up doing more of these. That being said, given New Brunswick's size, this station could use some improvements for sure.

@_SP64_

Жыл бұрын

It actually is getting renovations

In my head I just keep thinking of New Brunswick, the province in Canada.

Palmetto Train 90 gives me nightmares. Took it from DC around Thanksgiving week once and it was 3 hours late almost. Never again.

My personal definition of Central Jersey is everything south of Bridgewater and north of Six Flags.

Central New Jersey is this: -The Entirety of Monmouth and Mercer counties - The southern portion of Middlesex County, going up till New Brunswick - The Northern parts of Ocean and Burlington, down to Toms River and Mount Holly Essentially any area that surrounds or shares a border with a town that surrounds the I-195, is below the NEC, and above the Pine Barren reserves is considered Central NJ

My definition of Central Jersey tends to be I-78 to I-195... mostly. Except for Bayonne and Elizabeth, those still feel north to me.

I'm curious about how the ridership numbers compare to when Amtrak ran the Clocker and accepted NJT monthly passes on it.

@22:10 AHHAHA introduced to RRFBs

2:56 Am I the only one that caught the Flippy sign had Cape Cod as a from location? When would a train go from Cape Cod to Jersey?

@MilesinTransit

Жыл бұрын

They have a bunch of different destinations in there just in case, I guess - Amtrak did at one point run a train called the Cape Codder from New York to Hyannis! It looks like one of the trains originated in Washington too, so that may well have stopped at Trenton.

"Ooh those are not hostile benches!" Hehehe

need a Princeton junction vid!

2:58 if you pause it at the right time it says Cape Cod

Central Jersey: N. Burlington, Camden, Mercer, N. Ocean, Monmounth, and maybe Union Counties (i.e. Fed. District NJ-3 + 20 miles)

Look at that water view. Where else can you get this? Probably a lot of other places. Lol. 😂

Amtrak won't likely increase service levels to New Brunswick as they already have quite frequent service to Metropark, 15 miles to the north, and Princeton Junction, 15 miles to the south. When I need an Amtrak to New Brunswick outside of the 3x each day it stops there I simply take the train to Metropark or Princeton Junction and take NJ Transit from there to New Brunswick

@jeremyzorek -- what app are you consulting when you concluded that the incoming train was the Palmetto?

@jeremyzorek

2 жыл бұрын

There's a great website called North America Intercity Rail Tools with an Amtrak live map

@MilesinTransit

2 жыл бұрын

Here's a link if you need one! Great site. asm.transitdocs.com

@moishglukovsky

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeremyzorek awesome thanks

Central Jersey, at least the eastern portion, is defined to me as Toms River to Woodbridge - Linden and Rahway start north Jersey and seaside heights/Lakewood/Jackson start south Jersey

@mjfromjersey

Жыл бұрын

Monmouth county as a whole is part of central Jersey to me. I grew up there and consider myself originally from central Jersey

NB would be my station as i used to live by cook college. May be the least used station but the most likely station you could get hit by flying body parts on the northbound platform when a guy committed suicide by leaned into a train on the platform hospitalizing two bystanders. A little NEC trivia for the masses.

After giving it some thought I think I would be an exit parker Exit gang rise up

Market Fair mail has a PF Changs! You should have gotten off lol

New Brunswick may be the least used Amtrak station in the state, but it's also one of the better used NJ Transit stations. The station has, like, a couple Amtrak trains a day lol

You made quite a few comments about how impressive the station is considering how poor the Amtrak service is and how few riders Amtrak has there. But these services, of course, are driven by the fact that it's one of the most popular NJ Transit stations in the entire system.

You said SEPTA closed off the entrances from the Walnut-Locust (presumably stop of the Broad Street Subway) to the Patco Line. How did you get to the PATCO line? Where is the entrance from the street? Thinking about talking the train from Philly to the Temple at Rutgers game next year and did not know that was possible from downtown Philly. Thought I would have to drive to West Trenton and take the train to New Brunswick.

@MilesinTransit

Жыл бұрын

You've gotta go up to street level and enter PATCO from on Locust!

@templefootballforeve

Жыл бұрын

@@MilesinTransit Yeah, I noticed all sorts of entrances underneath toward Suburban Station are fenced off and you have to go up top through DIlworth Park to get to Regional Rail from the BSS. Must have something to do with security but it's really inconvenient.

@MilesinTransit

Жыл бұрын

Oh, it's awful! As anti-rider as it gets.

Someone from Central NJ HERE the Best way to measure it is from route 78,202/206, 287 meet so that’s Warren TWP Where I am from down to Princeton then across to old bridge/Mahwah then up to Newark. 78 is really the Divider of Central and North Jersey…. also, Middlesex and parts of Somerset County are central New Jersey it’s just how Somerset County is

We used New Brunswick as the cheapest place to park and visit NYC for the day and not deal with basically any NYC traffic.

11:49 - Did anyone else listening to this at work take a disappointed look at their Outlook e-mail client when they heard the chime and think it was a new mail message for them?

Why does “Catenary in sky” Sound like where retired trains go to for the way y’all said that 😂

Hi miles I’m transit grate video I was there I’ve used that station

@MilesinTransit

10 ай бұрын

Nice!

Central Jersey is the water in the Raritan River, and nothing else.

You got off on the bus side of the Patco platform. Use the other side for proximity to the River line.

@MilesinTransit

Жыл бұрын

The other side has been locked for the entire pandemic!

@JayReed

Жыл бұрын

@@MilesinTransit no way! I work in Camden and didn't know this.

central jersey to me is Mercer, Middlesex and Monmouth county

0:20 whats that map representing? I see that the states that Amtrak doesn’t provide service too are colored in grey. But why are Illinois, North Carolina, Maryland, Delaware, and Massachusetts colored in blue?

@MilesinTransit

Жыл бұрын

Those are ones I've done already! So I'm filling the map in as I go.

I thought u were talking about the Canadian province in the thumbnail

Random Central New Jersey definition: Burlington, Ocean, Monmouth, Mercer, Middlesex, Somerset, and Hunterdon Counties (the central 7-ish counties (1/3 of NJ counties)

l live in central jersey central jersey is consider Middlesex county Monmouth County and somerset county and ocean county didnt know amtrack go to New Brunswick taught it only NJ transit i ride the train there all the time to devils game and the city never saw amtrack stop there .

I took the NJ Transit train in 2010

3:55 *passes through the Lawrenceville area*

Can you check out the Amtrak station in Sand Point Idaho. It serves the Empire Builder

@MilesinTransit

10 ай бұрын

Someday, yes!

Central Jersey - Western Massachusetts One struggle

(the third deviation is pretty close to my neck of the woods)

A Turboliner??? No way!

Central Jersey Exists!!! I like to think of it in a very Jersey, by highways, as the areas between I-78 & I-195

@MilesinTransit

Жыл бұрын

The I-78 definition is interesting to me because I have a hard time imagining Elizabeth or Newark Airport being in Central Jersey!