A buddy broke a BCM bolt not long ago. Everything breaks eventually. BCM and Aero are both great companies.

@oneofthoseguys2019

Жыл бұрын

Ar bolts be like that

@adrnacad3434

Жыл бұрын

He must’ve been using higher grain pressured 5.56.

@isucc3817

15 сағат бұрын

@@oneofthoseguys2019 not really. ar bolts were designed around 7.62x51mm, then scaled down. they are actually quite overbuilt. im not a betting man but id bet the farm that any ar bolt that fails probably wouldve lit up on MPI like a christmas tree or was loaded with some seriously hot ammo.

The difference in BCM and Aero products that no know really talks about is quality control. BCM uses Microbest BCGs and Individual inspects every BCG using Multi Particle Inspection and High Pressure Testing. Whereas Aero only does batch Multi Particle Inspection on their bolts and never does High Pressure Testing. The result of this is tighter gas port specs and better gassing on rifles made from BCM while also maintaining better reliability. A tangible example of this is in how there is a 3% chance of a 9310 bolt shattering within the first 1000 rounds without HPT, which means that Aero’s primary bolt material comes with a risk. So yes while there is a difference in cost there are also reasonable differences between the products to justify that cost.

You’ll Love the BCMs. I just ran a 14.5 with mid-length gas in a class recently and it performed flawless. I’ve been running them for many many years. I’m all BCM, LMT and LaRue now.

BCM is my favorite for complete uppers and I have a couple. I’ve had Aero in the past and never had any major issues but slowly transitioned over to BCM. I build most of my lowers using Aero stripped lower, BCM parts kit, radian ambi safety, and geissele triggers and buffer kit.

1 of my newer guns is a BCM MK2 14.5”. Only 1 trip to range. For $1,182 BCM is an amazing rifle.

I have a BCM upper with an Aero lower. Never had an issue with it. It's not sub-MOA, since it's a SOCOM barrel, but it's plenty accurate for the distances I shoot. Maybe someday I'll get one of their Ionbond barrels for mine, but for now, I always recommend BCM for people who want to step into something better than ATI or Diamondback without breaking the bank entirely.

@scott2228

Жыл бұрын

I agree. And I think they are still inexpensive. For what ur getting. I purchased the upper and lower separate for a total of $1,183. That includes tax/shipping. I get that u can buy another AR like PSA for half that but a duty level rifle for under $1,200 is solid.

@shinman7028

Жыл бұрын

My BCM upper on a spikes lower is about moa and my full BCM is sub moa

@barry6557

Жыл бұрын

I though SOCOM was supposed to be more accurate or does it just keep accuracy longer while heating up?

@scott2228

Жыл бұрын

@@shinman7028 I’m a fan of Spikes as well. Several lowers and 1 upper. Solid products.

BCM has always come recommended and seems fairly accurate for a duty type weapon. Interested to hear further reviews from you on this platform, gassing, accuracy, failures, etc.

@ShootDaily

Жыл бұрын

Dang shot out a ballistic advantage/aero barrel after only 10k? That's crazy thought they were supposed to go alot longer

As a guy who’s owned both BCM and Areo rifles, I’ve had zero issue with either. If I had to pick one as my go/life depended on it Rifle of course I’d choose the BCM based on reputation however my areos shot just as well. Sh!t breaks no matter who makes it esp firing pins. Is what it is. Enjoy the BCM.

Recently bought my first BCM, it's a 12.5 and after putting about 300 rounds through it I'm impressed. Gassing is on point (using a flow trough can 4 o'clock ejection), very soft shooting and after finding a load it likes it shoots consistently sub MOA using a red dot + 3xmag which is way better than I expected. M193 clones run around 2 MOA for me, which I'm totally happy with. Going to put a few thousand rounds through it before I form a final opinion, but until now it looks promising.

@bettycocker2226

Жыл бұрын

your grammar is atrocious

@TerminalM193

Жыл бұрын

What M193 clones you been using? I'm able to keep imi under 1.5moa but Winchester / Frontier / xtac all floats around 3-3.25moa

@basti080891

Жыл бұрын

@@TerminalM193 CBC/Magtech, GGG, S&B and PMC, all but the PMC shoot well enough. Magtech are what I settled on, but only because they are cheaper at my local store and perform about the same as GGG and S&B

@TerminalM193

Жыл бұрын

@@basti080891 I actually grabbed up 2k rounds of ggg at a local auction for a silly cheap price. As far as best velocity and accuracy so far has been imi M193 by a rather large margin. The round does extremely well through both my 16" 1:8 and my 13.5" 1:7.

I feel like you should get WAY more than 10k rounds out of a chrome or nitride type AR barrel before keyholing at 5yd under the shooting schedule you describe.

@TerminalM193

Жыл бұрын

That's completely dependent on how hot the barrel gets and how often it's actually cleaned. Numbers that are quoted from factory are usually at 1 round every 2-3 seconds. Nitride barrels take WAY longer to cool off compared to chrome as well.

@PandemicGameplay

Жыл бұрын

depends on how hot the barrel gets and rounds per minute

Hi Ben. I’m new to your channel so I hope you will forgive my question if it’s been covered here, but how many rounds should a good bbl last in general. If lining make a huge difference, I am mostly interested in chrome lined barrels. Enjoying the channel so far. Thanks for your efforts!

BCM has been solid Duty GRADE Carbine for 15 years or more . I've been running BCM since 2011 . You'll for sure get more than 10k rounds . BCM furniture is by far my favorite. Every AR I own has minimum of 2 BCM parts . I'd for sure swap out your Aero Barrels for Ballistic Advantage Hanson Barrels . Whether you get the 556n Hanson or 223W Hanson Premium Black Series. Aero Precision and Ballistic Advantage are brother / sister companies. More than likely that Aero Barrel was BA Modern Series Barrel . Hanson 556n are Performance Sereis and Hanson 223W Premium Black Series are obviously Premium Series Barrels . I use BA 223W Hanson Premium Black Series Barrel on my 2Gun Rig . Super accurate and durable barrels for sure . I have quite a fee rounds through my BA Barrels and for the money they cant be beat . BCM BFH / HF Barrels are made by FN . I have 0 clue who makes BCM Standard barrels but they are still super solid. BCM ELW BFH / HF is my go too for Lightweight Barrel that I have 0 plans of running suppressed. BCM BCG / Bolt are by far one of the best in the industry . Colt , BCM and LMT are my go too for BCG / Bolts . The gold standard for years was BCM RECCE 11 or RECCE 14 Upper paired with Aero Lower . You'll love that BCM for sure . I would also for sure consider BA 556N Hanson Profile Barrel as your nee Barrels for your Aero Uppers. BCM IMO is the Colt M4 of the civilian market . Both are tried and true with long track record of good results. It's a thrills or frills Carbine that you can trust in harms way .

I have a few bcm uppers and DD uppers. As well as a KAC gun. The DD are noticeably more accurate. It's weird.

@BigChiefWiggles

Жыл бұрын

Its not weird, DD barrels are some of the most accurate barrels you can get for an AR.

That's pretty cool Ben, but it'd be a lot cooler if you shot PCSL 2 gun nationals with those uppers.

Ben, 1. Are you using Aero lowers on the BCM uppers? 2. Are you shooting 3gun or other matches? 3. Are you offering classes on rifle skills?

Aero released some CHF nitrided CMV barrels could you do an accuracy test? My FN with match ammo gets a 1/4 MOA 5 round group usually a 1- 1 1/2 MOA group with standard 556 ammo.

Never heard of aero precision hatred. BCM has been very reliable for me. Sons of Liberty gun works does a lifetime warranty on barrels. They specifically want high volume shooters rocking their stuff, so will replace barrels for the free advertising once shot out.

@m4e1supremacy

Жыл бұрын

SOLGW also uses Ballistic Advantage for their barrels, who just so happens to be the same company making Aero's barrels since Aero owns them (or vice versa, not quite sure on that relationship). My next complete upper is going to be either BCM or SOLGW

@dtomamerican3471

Жыл бұрын

I believe it's a lifetime on all parts.

Hi Ben, really enjoy your vids dude. Hope you have fun with the BCM, Aero or anything else ya choose! Cheers!

My Aero keyholed at 18k.... DD made it to 26k and BCM was 23/24k. DD uppers on sale (about 1200 OTD with BCG and CH) are honestly the best way to go. On an Aero lower ;)

@dutch0770

Жыл бұрын

​@Benstoeger1or.... I could send you 1,000,000 in cash via Telegram! You actually just won! Send me your information so I can send it right over! KZread scamming S stain

I have 3 BCM uppers now, so far have been pleased, the first two I have had for a while, been consistent in groupings, and performance has been good, reliable, and all that. Just got my 3rd, a 16 inch ELW, and that thing has been impressive, granted not a lot of rounds out of it, but so far it a fairly good shooter. Eager to work it over and get more rounds down range with it.

@Kain8719

Жыл бұрын

Suppose worth mentioning if someone wanting a BCM from BCM's site, they are running free BCGs with complete upper receiver groups. If someone wants to burn some coin, your wallet can send me hate mail later.

We really do hope you train with its as a primary and enjoy your time with it 🇺🇸🔥

BCM is also very pro 2A, ," Your a cop who's citizens can't have one? NEITHER CAN YOU TYRANT". -Paul Buffoni (probably)

Would be interested in hearing your thoughts on rifle optics and why you settled on the Holosun 510.

It's an AR. Kinda hard to screw up. Armalite, DPMS, Bushmaster, LWRC, DD, BCM, Stag and a few other 'off' brands - had all these. All the same - Pull the trigger - Bang. Nicest by far was the LWRC in the pretty category. But the $1600 LWRC didn't put holes in the paper any better than the $400 DPMS. It is an industry like any other. Someone is going to market their product to those that believe paying an extra $1000 will make them better or at least be part of the 'in' crowd - be a true operator.

keyholing after 10k rounds? Bummer. I've never used them but heard good things about Ballistic Advantage barrels(manufacturer of Aeros barrels).

@calebburrichter8452

Жыл бұрын

He probably shoots way faster and more regularly than 90% of people. I would assume he gets excessive wear out of guns compared to almost everyone else.

I love my BCMs!

Any info or feedback on how well a bcm upper and aero lower would pair up? Because lowers for bcm are unavailable last several months.

broke a firing pin, bought an upper....

@30wrdy

Жыл бұрын

Extraction issues, extractor may be worn. Buy a rifle as replacement

Only 12,000 rounds, and you saw keyholes and major accuracy loss?

A friend of mine (who you might know) has seen some disappointing stuff out of Aero lately. I hope it was a fluke; for a while there they were a great balance between quality and cost. I'd hate to think we can't trust the quality anymore.

Man.... I wish bcm sent me uppers to try out. I almost jumped on a black Friday deal on a bcm 16" for 500 even. Now I can't find any under 7.

A CHF barrel will suit you better if you shoot 10k+ rounds per year

In my experience bcm has disappointing moa, but it’s reliable.

How are those BCM’s holding up to your shooting regimen

Wait... is frangible ammo bad for barrels? I shoot a lot of reactive steel indoors, so it'll be unfortunate for me if that's the case. Am I abusing my gun?

I've personally had the same issue with Aero, in addition to a bolt broken at the cam pin hole. They warrantied everything but I'm a little bit suspect of them. I like their uppers and lowers but would no longer recommend their BCG's when you can get a Toolcraft.

i own a couple BCMs...they are boringly good...nothing crazy special...pretty good accuracy but they run....and run and run. thats why I love them

Why not go with a muzzle break if this is all for competition?

Interesting... i wonder if the people giving you shit over the cheap rifle are the ones buying expensive pistols rather than training?

@libertypraxis

Жыл бұрын

Cheap rifles are cheap for a reason. Aero isn't total crap, but cuts cost in certain areas that have come with a lot of reported issues. Aero is a hobby-grade company and not best suited for high volume use and abuse.

Nah I want some of Jimmy's water, that's the kind that gets u fukn drunk ain't that right Jimmy?

That is strange isn't is? I only paid $200 more for my BCM upper vs my Aero upper but Aero is pleb tier and not good enough?

You put a bcm upper on a aero lower? YOU SINNER

I’m chomping at the but to get a BCM middy.

@legs-zj2fv

Жыл бұрын

Do it

I’ve got a DD barrel that’s up over 15,000 still shooting sub-MOA with 77s. But I probably don’t shoot it as much as you. I had some of the lower tier guns wear out well under 10k rounds. I’ve got quite a few BCM guns and so far so good, none have died under 10k rounds. I don’t think I’ve had one break anything yet, but they aren’t the most accurate barrels I’ve used.

Wish I could buy a bcm mk2 but they are all out of stock :(

So now you know about the "Filthy 14".... How many rounds was that?

I love my aero 14.5

99% of people won’t ever reach 10k rounds through a rifle

@williamwinn948

Жыл бұрын

that comes to $3,750 dollers

Did he say what the twist was on this BCM And why is it getting impossible to find the 1-9 twist these days

@legs-zj2fv

Жыл бұрын

BCM uses 1:7 twist. 1:9 is probably harder to find because there's very little demand for it. Overstabilization isn't really a thing, but 1:9 is certainly not as effective at stabilizing heavier slugs.

i dont like the look of those rails. angle cut on the front makes it look like a BCA. uggo.

I would really feel more comfortable watching your videos if you had more wing dings on this rifle. A light, a cool krylon paint job, maybe some backup iron sights. It really would help increase your credibility. Maybe wear your world shoot medal in your shooting videos too.

I broke my stock so I bought a new hand guard…. Jk

Drop the zero and get with a hero 🦸‍♂️ Go BCM

BCM's are good to go, but the 11.5 and 14.5 are over gassed. My guess is this was done to shut up the crybabies that shoot Wolf and other lower pressure ammos. There is nothing wrong with shooting it, but dont blame the gun when its an ammo issue. BMC barrels use to be gassed for shooting Nato spec ammo and when people would shoot lower pressure stuff, they complained about the reliability. I still have a few BCM 14.5 mid-length barrels form 2010 and thy are good to go. I personal stopped using their barrels because of this issue. Other than that, their QC and quality are still good. Also, nothing beats free99. LOL. That being said, they are machines, and all machines fail. On a side note, if you want a barrel that will hold up for 40ish thousand round, many of them suppressed, go with Hodge Defense. They are also gassed beautifully and accurate with several different bullet weights. Thank you for your content. I enjoy your channel.

My only “thing” with Aero Precision is that when some know-nothing-noob shows up with an Aero, you know they went to the local big box FUDD store and bought it.

aero firepin broke with Trex arms too..... I WOULDN'T buy aeros firing pin now.