Sometimes you have to tighten it for it to becomes loose. Used to do that with rail car hand wheels. It was strange but it worked. May be worth a try.

Kevin, I am so glad you got this wrx. I recently sold my GR86 for a vb wrx so i was sad that your videos werent applicable to me anymore. but now i guess im back in it!

I've also got a White VB. Going to go check to see if mine are tight as well. Excited to see your plans for this!

I am sorry for your pain, but I have to say that moment where you sat down in defeat from that lug is like I feel every time I try to do ANY project on my car. Something always goes wrong lol. It was nice to know I'm not alone anymore.

"This is why I don't bring my car to dealerships..." LMAO no truer words have ever been spoken. GOOD LUCK

Another great video Kevin! That sucks that they torqued the heck out of the locks! Can't wait to see what else you do to the ca. The spoiler definitely adds a subtle but good touch to the rear.

The fit, paint match and shape are beautiful! That said, the BA bumper throws the visual balance off. Really needs a sizable wing. It makes the duckbill look like it's for the new supra imo

Ngl imo that style wing looks a lil too small for that trunk.

@KevinVo

Жыл бұрын

I can see where you're coming from! Things being too small is something I'm used to 🤣

@jamesiepooh7337

Жыл бұрын

There definitely needs to be a 3 piece Duckbill that starts directly off the black bar/Subaru logo and has pieces that go above the tail lights. It would really help widen the wedgie trunk design and compliment the flares on the quarter panel. I've asked Aeroflow on YT and their QA insta posts but they never respond 😅

@Subi_doo

8 ай бұрын

@@KevinVois that an Asian joke?😂

@KevinVo

8 ай бұрын

@@Subi_doo 😉

@Subi_doo

8 ай бұрын

@@KevinVo I hear that shit all the time too. 1/2 Vietnamese and people want to make assumptions 😂🤣😂🤣😂

I always remove those goofy wheel locks with an impact so I can put lots of axial force into it as it turns and doesn’t slip out. I thought that was gonna be your problem, glad to see it wasn’t haha. Not that dramatic over torque is a lot better

If you have a lug nut stuck with other lug nuts broken loose already. Snug up the ones you already freed and go back to the jammed lug nut. Works for me almost every time. Great opportunity to make a video on arp lug nuts. (No reason to go extended unless you need them for wheel spacers.)

brooo you were so close, i wish you luck buddy

I find it funny how I bought a 2015 WRX when you started off with subiespeed, watched that content the whole time I had the car. Sold it for a truck. Years later Im looking into a GR86 and see you ended up having one making content for it too, how ironic. Waited forever and never got it because I drove a couple states away for a 2023 WRX...and now you also have one, making content for it. Love how I can continue to enjoy your videos, all these years later. Thanks man.

@KevinVo

Жыл бұрын

Glad you're still watching years later! Truly appreciate the support!

My local Subaru dealership has replaced my broken wheel studs multiple times (for free), and they have been the one's to over-torque them. I will be doing my own wheel change overs now, haha.

I snapped a lug stud a couple weeks ago putting back on my oem wheels from snow tires 18 brz. Dealership changes my oil for free. Only reason I go to them. Find someone or shop with air tools and you'll be good. Love your videos and miss you at ftspeed

That duckbill looks fire! Im with you about wrx problems. My new VB with 1600 miles, threw an engine light this morning. Taking to the dealer tomorrow to check. You have to do the short shifter next. Big difference.

@KevinVo

Жыл бұрын

Sorry about the CEL. A STS is on the list!

@WRX_Panda

Жыл бұрын

@@KevinVobro it was the gas cap brahhahaha

Lol, I was exactly like that Kevin. Had a boot on due to injury but I couldn’t sit still and recover. I ended up doing car stuff. Hope everything turns out well for you. In terms of the car, I think you chose the best color. The duck bill is a bit too much, but it is a genuinely good looking part. Sorry about the lug nuts. I feel your pain. I had to get mine out by ruining the lug nut. Good luck! Looking forward to the next video.

@KevinVo

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support!

Normally I would go to the 3/4 drive ratchet and tap with a hammer to impact break the nuts loose. Done this a few times with old suspension bits also.

The wheel locks I got from Subaru that were on mine snapped. I torqued it to what Aeroflow said to torque it to, and it didn't feel right. Checked the next day and the head of the lug snapped off. Had to hammer a socket to it and it came off. Spacers are on though, and it looks way better.

It’s sad but it’s one of those items you expect to replace when owning a Subaru. I had to do it on our Crosstrek and likely the 86 at some point. Good thing there are aftermarket solutions!

Hey Kev, have you looked into a baffle oil pan for the 86? Right turns seem to be killing these engines

Welp, went to try and remove the wheel locks on my new BRZ after seeing your video and those things are not budging. Thanks Subaru ;c

I'd have them replace those studs; they are probably stretched and could fail, especially on the track... I wonder if they are cross-threaded??

@KevinVo

Жыл бұрын

Cross threading all four of them would be wild haha I'm sure they just used an air gun on them for too many ugga duggas

@bluelacyseo8964

Жыл бұрын

Most of my GR86 lug nuts were super tight from the factory. Ended up replacing them with ARP studs. I suspect you will too.

@erickiraola248

Жыл бұрын

I work for Subaru as a lube tech and I can’t stress enough about how terrible the Subaru studs are in general

@nicholasclark7968

Жыл бұрын

@@KevinVo I had some overtightened lug studs. They snapped on the highway and the wheel flew off. Take it seriously, it could kill you.

Hey Kevin, the exact same thing happened to me on my 2023 BRZ. I was trying to install lowering springs and all the regular lugnuts came off fine but I could NOT get the locking nuts off even with a giant breaker bar and extension and destroyed the lugnut key. I ordered another key from Mcgard for $20 and it happened AGAIN! I ended up having to get one of those lug nut removal kits where you hammer on the socket and used a long breaker to finally get them off. What a pain! Like anyone is going to steal stock Subaru 17" wheels. BAN LOCKING LUGNUTS!

Kogeki gang 🤙 I’m having some lift on the sides now after what seemed like a perfect install tho. How visible is the gray 3M on your top side? Might just be me over obsessing, but I hate that I’m able to see the tape at certain angles.

Hey Kevin, maybe next mod is a exhaust or tune? Power upgrades

Wow, How could they torque it that much? Thanks for the vid warning; I prob would have snapped mine. Taking it into the dealer to have them do it.

*How long is that breaker bar? It looks like one of those extendable ones. Is that the max length? I usually use a 24" one and they seem to be able to break anything loose.*

I have a 23 WRX white as well. Looking for a F1 light, recommendations and a video on your install.

the normal 5th gen impreza has this problem. I snapped 3 studs when i had it. only ever used hand tools to tighten it after the first. Its just soft aluminum studs, get aftermarket ones trust me

Bro literally yesterday my lug nut stud on my brz snapped because the shop torqued them too tight. Had to replace 5 of them😢 It was an ez fix tho…just time consuming.

I just have the same issue with my mustang; the ford dealer over tightened the lug nut and also made them swollen. Now I have to destroy the lug nut to remove the wheels.

This happened to me on my wheel lock key actually broke the locking lug nut. Fun times for sure.

My friendly local dealership did the same dang thing to my VA wrx had to replace 3 wheel studs myself now that i know they don’t have time or care to torque wheels…

Good looking ride bro. What's the hp?

wow, i have the same exact problem with my wrx, I wanted to changed the wheels and they so over torqued I was afraid i was going to break it. I need to take it to the dealership.

Holy hell with those locking lugs!! Do you not have a true breaker bar? Curious to see what you do to get them off.

@KevinVo

Жыл бұрын

I do, but I can feel them seizing up already. The stud snapping is almost a certainty at this point.

I like that you kept in the issue with the lug nuts.

@KevinVo

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

you need to use a jack stick or pole that fits the ratchet for more leverage to take out the lug nut. dont be scared eventually youll have to do it anyways..

@KevinVo

Жыл бұрын

I can already feel it seizing up. I'm almost certain it's going to snap with more leverage.

Yep factory wheel locks are always too tight. They are the same on my 2020 wrx.

At least thieves will have a tough time stealing your OEM 17s 😅 Good luck man! Cant wait for the progress on this.

I have a 2016 limited WRX. Is it worth jumping into a new WRX?

9:00 that’s me anytime something doesn’t work out as it should when i’m modding my cars LMFAO

Did Aeroflow's STi wing on the wife's VB and the paint match was great. The template kind of sucked but I just whipped my own up real quick for it.

get a small torch, I recommend a bernzomatic st200, and heat up the lock lug. Should come off easier

just slide a metal pipe over to ratchet to increase the length and give you more leverage. I keep one in my car and it's gotten me out of several tight situations like this.

Thats exactly what happened to me taking the wheels off my 86 to change the pads :)

I knew exactly how you felt Kevin when you hit that first locking lug/stud. Had some new-used wheels that I wanted to go test fit on my 17 rex. Went to loosen a lug and stripped a stud. Other three wheels lugs were easy to get off. This was also my first time getting at them since I got the car from the dealer. I always torque my lugs at 90ft/lb and they're just as easy to get off.

@Illeegg

Жыл бұрын

Same problem. They overtorqued my wheel lock and I stripped the key 😅

that spoiler is an insane fit bro, nice.

No adhesion promotor needed for duck bill spoiler ?

Looks good, but I still can't get past the plastic cladding around the wheels.

I like the spoiler because you don't have to drill into the trunk

I literally stood on the torque wrench to get my buddy's WRX security lugs off Studs were fine, but the security lugs were not reusable. Get new lug nuts regardless after you remove them.

You need a bigger breaker bar with more leverage. Or do the stealers way and find a impact socket that could go over it barely, hammer it and rip wheel lock lug nut. I had to do that to mine one time was not a fun night. Cool thing is i got aftermarket lug nuts. 😅

@shohoku10

Жыл бұрын

breaker bar.....it's your best bud when there are none around

@no1washerezz

Жыл бұрын

dont know about destroying the lug nut with this method but im pretty sure you can fit the wrench to the nut and itll have just enough to hold itself in place without falling... then just stomp on one end. obviously not good idea with an injured leg like in this video.

@shohoku10

Жыл бұрын

@@no1washerezz not with his foot lol

@t3ap0t_wr3x

Жыл бұрын

+1 on a breaker bar

@yeonboy1

Жыл бұрын

Why is this being upvoted. His issue isn't breaking the lug nut loose. His issue is wrenching it harder is going to break the stud.

You need a bigger breaker bar lol. Never fails when you need to break something loose. And use your weight instead of trying to pull up to break it free, push with your weight over top. Hell jump on the breaker bar if you have too. It will come free much easier regardless

@KevinVo

Жыл бұрын

It's going to 100% break the stud regardless haha

You should put a hollow pole onto the end of the wrench to give you leverage and some flex. You can also tap the bar with a mallet before trying to put all your strength behind it.

does the duckbill block your 3rd brake light?

Great job on the wing, but don't hurt your back with those lugnuts.

why didnt you get the traditional badass spoiler ??

We like the spoilers more but that’s defiantly different!

I can tell you were bummed but I think you did the smart thing. I would have been too impatient and snapped a stud.

I would go to dealer and tell them to take those off. Other option? Drill the wheel locks out and destroy them while on the wheel - wont stress the studs more then they are already. Or finally - order a set of longer studs and swap them anyway.

Next 3rd brake light 💢💪 let’s Go Kevin

Yeah, it's scary how the bolts were torqued from the factory. Even on the VA

When Kevin goes "What the F", definitely felt that

4th brake light install ?

Break the lug nuts loose when the wheel is in the air and there is no load on them. If you don't it puts way too much pressure on the threads. A lot of people say to loosen on the ground but many designs depend on the lug nuts to help center the wheel so there is a ton of pressure on them while the car is sitting on the ground. So theoretically you could do some damage to threads over time. Also dealers do tend to just us an impact and dont even hand thread in the beginning.

What problems? It’s a base model WRX. Subaru doesn’t install lock nuts from the factory. Your dealer added them on.

Have a 22' BRZ and the first time I took off the wheels, I was SUPER careful because I heard all the horror stories about BRZ lugs. They came off ok but holy shit, they were all chalky and dry. I've had them on and off a few times and I've been very careful each time... I could absolutely see how a dealership or shop could fuck these things up.

Just a random piece of advice. If you want your tools to last dont break high TQ with a ratchet. use a breaker bar. thats how you destroy rachets.

@KevinVo

Жыл бұрын

If it would've been torqued correctly it wouldn't have been high torque! 😅

the taillights of the wrx look similar to them of the gr86 or am i wrong

Ducktail looks pretty good.

The vb has a lot of sharp lines. I don’t think the duckbill flows well with it.

This is where instead of using hands, get on top of the socket wrench and hop up and down with feet.

Looks good, be careful installing wheel spacers without installing extended lugs. You need the correct overlap on the lugnut threads to make sure your wheels don't come loose while driving.

@KevinVo

Жыл бұрын

These are bolt on spacers and not the traditional kind.

@dougrodriguez4977

Жыл бұрын

@@KevinVo how wide are the spacers ?

@KevinVo

Жыл бұрын

@@dougrodriguez4977 they're 20mm

@dougrodriguez4977

Жыл бұрын

@@KevinVo wowza! Should look interesting. Shocked how over tightened those locks were, outrageous. Look forward to see where you go. I like your partners, they are very talented. I’m not a VB owner, I’m a GD guy but I like the new wrx. Thanks for replying.

The struggle is real. LOL!!

@10:00 dawg use a breaker bar! for reference if nut torqued to greater than the head on the torque wrench, the square drive will rip off--i've done it before on the 32mm axle nut, but same principle here; there is a quick fix, use breaker bar--again for reference if your torque wrench is 18" and you weight 150, then that is 225 foot pounds it will take the nut off dawgie

@darcyballsuper

Жыл бұрын

dawg one mo suggestion wd-40 my dawg woof

Oh man. That’s horrible…I felt that frustration with over torqued lugs.

What strikes me the most is the similarities between the tail lights, yet how much better they look on the 86.

@ericfromeng

11 ай бұрын

I'm in a different camp. These lights are growing on me. Makes this car feel like the BRZ's older brother or something lol. I think they'd look great with a wing.

I want to see some UEL Headers on this next!

Have you ever heard of the breaker bar? It is the bad practice to use a torque wrench to loosen off a wheel lock nut. You should always try to block your wheel before turning any wheel nut off and on.

@KevinVo

Жыл бұрын

I didn't use a torque wrench... it's an extendable ratchet 🤦‍♂️ did you not see how easily the other lug nuts came off? You shouldn't need tons of leverage to break it loos. It's only supposed to be ~90ftlbs.

2017 wrx Owners manual states 89 ft lbs. Not even close to what torque I do. I had the same problem with America's Tire. They over torqued every lug nut. Then got a flat. Snapped every stud on 1 wheel trying to get them off. Rotating tires I snapped 4 out of 5 lug nuts on the other 3. Turns out 72-75 ft lbs is plenty tight. But I swapped to ARP studs and steel nuts because the factory hardware is garbage pot metal. WTF Subaru.

I just checked my BRZ after seeing this. Yep, cant get any of them off. I just hate the dealerships in the US

@KevinVo

Жыл бұрын

😔

Lug nuts are suppose to be hand threaded and then tightened with power tool. Thanks Kevin.

@KevinVo

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I always thread them on by hand first!

Is the 23 Brz duck bill installed the same way just tape?

@KevinVo

Жыл бұрын

No, the oem one is bolted in place.

Looks like you need a new mods column for the NEW 23 WRX

Daaaaaang.. you were moving the whole car on that last one 😮 10:51

If ya get them lock nuts off I would trash em. Mine broke and had rust everywhere inside already.

Oh shit I see my headlights out of the Frs 🥵 I’m so excited

@KevinVo

Жыл бұрын

Soon!!!

i never use locking lugs, ive broken waay too many of the locks in the threads. besides, if thieves want your wheels theyll find a way to take them off, regardless of wheel locks.

@KevinVo

Жыл бұрын

I wish they were never installed haha

Time to invest on impact gun 😅

I've seen this same problem on other cars. In my case Hondas & Acuras (my soobs have been OK). For whatever reason the locking lug nuts were always like someone torqued the sh!t out of just those and the OEM lugs were fine. Maybe the metal is just different enough so they "stick" more to each other. As others have recommended, get yourself a length of iron pipe for just these occasions. Good for leverage and intruders 🙂I doubt you'll break the stud, might strip out the security key but likely not IMO. Little bit of penetrating oil over night, maybe some heat from a heat gun - worst case. This is why I put a *tiny* dab of anti-sieze on the surface of the lug nuts that contact the rim (not the threads).

Kevin, get an impact tool, like a bigger Milwaukie for example, they help with situations like this.

@KevinVo

Жыл бұрын

I have an impact 😅 I just like using hand tools

You should have warranty? Take advantage of it.

So now I should go check mine I guess... under 2k miles. Pray for me. If I find mine are the same it will go to dealer for proper torque. Not even a question. Nearly 40 grand for a car it had better have properly torqued lugs. Glad I came across your vid. Good luck.

@SavageBluetick

Жыл бұрын

They were fine

@KevinVo

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear they were good!

super long breaker bar maybe?

An impact is cheaper to buy and very useful compared to not buying one. I learned my lesson when I broke my lug nut, didn't snap the stud which would have been better. Invest into an impact

@KevinVo

Жыл бұрын

I have an impact haha

@YoungSperm

Жыл бұрын

@@KevinVo well then lol, I bet the impact would have taken it right off, no sweat, wish I had an impact, I took probably 5+ hours trying to drill out my broken lug and stud enough to take my wheel off

Duck bill looks good on th e VB.. but those wheel lock lugs. damn.. I just picked up a '24 WRX Premium yesterday. Now I'm curious about my wheel locks.. Going to test them tomorrow. 🫣

Subaru Antelope Valley! Let's go!

Wing alittle to small if the duck bill was alittle linger it would look perfect it on brz

I take the bar off my floor jack and slide it over the socket wrench, essentially making it a huge breaker bar. should remove it easily with little force

@GROD212

Жыл бұрын

obviously still a chance of breaking the stud but being brand new, i'm sure just needs a little oomph and should come off