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@johndough8115

Ай бұрын

If you want the Fastest vise... check out Andrew Klein 's Twin Turbo Vise. He made a vise with Engageable Gearing, thats Genius.

@StumpyNubs

Ай бұрын

@@johndough8115 I have one. It's nice, but it's not really the type of vise we are talking about here.

Cool. I made those plans for Taylor Tools. Glad you built it.

@mschmidt62

Ай бұрын

Why are the clamp holes round? It would seem that you could get better clamping with holes that have flats, similar to the oblong holes on the front jaw.

@h2woodshop911

Ай бұрын

@@mschmidt62 You could make them oblong or flat if you wanted to.

@jimsulsona4128

Ай бұрын

@@mschmidt62 I agree with you that a flat "hole" for clamping would be better, since the fixed jaw of the clamp would only contact a round hole at 2 points, as opposed to the entire width of the fixed jaw. That being said, I suspect it is much easier for most folks to create a clean round hole instead of a flat one.

Rob Cosman added a spring on each threaded rod. That’s a great touch to this great vise.

@j10001

Ай бұрын

Smart!

@nitePhyyre

Ай бұрын

What does the spring do?

@FiltyIncognito

Ай бұрын

@@nitePhyyre i imagine it's for opening up the clamp when you back off the screws. But that can also be done with a nut and washer fixed on the screw shaft and recessed in a countersink on the inside of the front board.

@bret_Lambky

Ай бұрын

You won’t want a very strong spring I’m guessing a 15#~20# lbs. spring would be sufficient! If your doing delicate dovetails or something similar this would be a great idea!

@artemisspawnofzeus7732

Ай бұрын

​@FiltyIncognito firmly attaching the front piece like that would cause racking

Historical note: I know Chris Schwarz got us all calling them "Moxon vises" but it's a bookbinding press and they'd been around for centuries before Moxon cribbed his engravings from Félibien. You can clearly see the bookbinders using them in Jost Amman's book of trades, c. 1580. Schwarz even pointed this out in his first article about them in Pop Wood, but everyone skipped that part. That said, the proliferation of "Moxon" vises has certainly been a strange boon to the hand bookbinders out there since the readily-available hardware makes our presses significantly less expensive than they used to be.

@dylanneely91

Ай бұрын

Fun fact: one of Schwarz's fixations was/is on book binding. This happy coincidence was actually how I ended up pivoting to obsessing over woodworking from trying to make books.

Great clamp. For those who dont want to order the kit. You can use 3/4 all thread and 3/4 gas pipe T and two nipples to make your handles. It work's great

@hendrst1918

Ай бұрын

But the 3/4 gas pipe T doesn't fit the end of the 3/4-10 threaded rod. What threaded rod are you using?

@carlbrown939

Ай бұрын

@hendrst1918 Going off of memory I think 3/4 -14 npt is the size of the all thread. They were left over from a job I did. The customer loved the rustic look and we used gas pipe for everything. Closet rods,towel bars,toilet paper holders etc.

James, you weren’t kidding about the “Improved” Moxon Vise kit from Taylor Toolworks selling out quickly. I’ve been waiting for them to restock this kit for several months. Sharing a tip that I just figured out: buy TWO of the - in stock - 12” Wagon Tail Vise kits + 2, 3/4” Washers from the “Moxon Vise Hardware Components” listing. TWO 12” kits + the 2 washers equal everything you’ll need to make an “Improved Moxon Vise.” Going this route costs ~$6 more than the “Improved” kit, but it’s available now. The only difference I can see is that the threaded rods with the “Wagon” kit are 12”, compared to the 10” rods that are part of the “Improved” kit. Figured I’d share this with your audience as a workaround until TayTools restocks the “Improved” kit.

As a wheelchair user where the traditional design really gets in the way, this may solve the problem. Looking forward to trying it. The only problem I see is that you don't get that satisfying feature of wacking the wheel and letting it thread it self closed :D .. I can live without that though :)

@scottmorris4914

Ай бұрын

He has another project you might interested in. It’s a mini workbench for joinery or chiseling.

@brucelee3388

Ай бұрын

Benchcrafter make similar hardware with wheels, as well as several others. I'd drill a 1/8 or 3/16 hole in the handle and threaded rod then put a steel pin or a spring ('C') pin in there instead of glue.

Very informative and a nice addition to my woodworking workshop. I'll use a smaller version for my craft workbench. Two hints to share, leather works well as an alternative to the cork rubber. In my experience, the leather holds up better. Also a brass nail used a a stop to keep the square nut from falling out the bottom of the slot, or better yet, mount the slot horizontal. This is better than picking up the square nut after it falls to the floor. Thanks for sharing. Please, more videos like this.

Well, this will make my life a bit easier! I'll be in the garage tonight taking inventory of the wood and hardware I have lying around looking for a purpose. I built my benches a bit higher than normal to make planing and such easier, so I'll cobble one of these together, refine it (likely for height) and roll with a better version. My main interest is having something that will get the work out over the edge of the bench like that without the guides and screws of my standard vise.

Love this! Gave me an idea of how I can rig up my own “ghetto” version lol. ❤

I have wanted a simple vice exactly like this. And of course you are right, the parts are sold out. But I can wait.

@onebighoffy

Ай бұрын

My late grandpa built one in my dads garage. And now im sad... Have a good vice though!

A very clever idea. I don't need plans. The hardware can be bought or scrounged anywhere. The concept is just so simple. Tomorrow's project i now have , thanks

I work in a historical woodworking shop. We have largely stopped using our bench vise since we installed Moxon clamps

On my build list! One modification I would do: a length of wood at the back base to add a little more stability. The piece would be dowelled and be the same height as the clamping holes. Also, I would flatten the bottom of the clamp holes so the entire face of the clamp can be applied to the wood.

@tomlouie2855

Ай бұрын

This is a great tweak to the design, thank you.

@WOODWORKVEGAN

Ай бұрын

Great idea.

@3frogltd987

Ай бұрын

Can you better explain "flattening the holes", do you mean to square the bottom of screw hole on the front board? How does this help?

@tomlouie2855

Ай бұрын

@@3frogltd987 so, the vise sits on top of your table, and you use two clamps to attach the vise to the table top. The top jaw of the clamp goes through a round hole and clamps down on the inside curved part of the board.

Slip a couple of springs around the threaded rods to push the jaws apart as you loosen them. Idea taken from Rob Cosman.

I never thought I'd actually SUBSCRIBE to a woodworking channel but this video put me over the top. Great content video after video. Your tone is perfect--you appreciate the fancy and expensive, but are realistic about how little is needed to do good work. Well in line with the anarchist bent of Mr. Schwarz.

@j10001

Ай бұрын

Welcome! When I found the channel I started binge-watching the backlist of hundreds of amazing videos

I love these videos. I'm not a wood worker by any means. It's just so enjoyable to watch someone talk about something they love doing.

@7-ten

Ай бұрын

It's definitely something to see somebody have a passion for what they do.

These are a great addition to any shop! Instead of cork on the face of the jaws. I used some leather it helps reduce marks and provides a lot of grip! I would be concerned that after cork dries out it might fall apart.

@Randomwesternredneckguy

Ай бұрын

Been using leather on woodworking vises for decades. Always worked great for me.

@KinuGrove

Ай бұрын

Great idea will have to try this.

@StumpyNubs

Ай бұрын

Cork rubber is a mix of the two. It doesn't dry and crumble. A great material.

Yep! These are awesome and very useful. I first saw it, and got a kit from Taylor, on a video that 3x3Custom Tamar did a while back. I went a little extra and made mine out of 2" Hard Maple.

That looks handier than sleeves in a vest. I love simple solutions! Thank you, again for great content.

Ordered! Think I’ll adapt it slightly though so the front jaw is captured and will stay up against the handle as it’s opened and closed.

@markanderson8066

Ай бұрын

You're luck. They're now our of stock! Wow

Replacing the two washers with a pair of thrust bearings substantially decreases the torque required to hit whatever level of clamping force required. This is great if you have children using the vice, and makes the vice nicer to use for anyone. Just be careful not to over tighten.

Seems like a great holding solution - which is key in most tool using situations. But I notice it has a little 'play' [bkwrd/fwrd] due to the clamping onto the bench. It has me thinking about simple fixes to reduce this problem - maybe a couple of triangular supports to prevent rocking attached beside the clamping holes? The fact that it can be modified is a plus point anyway. I've always said that work holding is at least 50% of a successful project, cheers Jim.

@DaremoKamen

Ай бұрын

I noticed that too. Maybe build up the back piece out of two thinner pieces, with the one toward the front broader, so it overhangs the edge of your work surface? And screw a couple of shelf brackets onto the back?

I made a Moxsin vice with 2 c clamps and 2x12. Great vice

I ordered the Moxon vise and cork padding this morning and the discount code didn't work. I called and spoke with Tyler and he squared things away for me with the new code. My order was for $50+ dollars but the shipping still showed and Tyler said he'd keep an eye out for it for me and he did! No sooner did I get the email telling me about my order than another email arrived telling me I had received a refund for the $7.99! That is the kind of service that doesn't seem to exist with far too many companies and I want you, Taylor Tools, to know how much I appreciate it. I'm posting a shorter version of this email on the "Stumpy Nubs" KZread channel so folks can understand why "he" touts your company. Thank you doing such a great job!

@MR-si1eq

Ай бұрын

I appreciate the 8nfo on Taylor. I've been debating on buying from them. Never heard of them. And both my daughters lived there and they never heard of them. So I'll place my order and see. Thanks.😊

I bought this kit and its a decent price I didn't build it like this my needs are different but I recommend it for sure ...

Thanks. Good information.🙂🙂

More extremely helpful tips from Stumpy! Thank you very much. Ordering the hardware this weekend!

SOLD!!! Thank you

I don't have a traditional woodworking bench, just a wall mounted bench from Uline. I think this vice will work really well for my setup.

Great vise, thanks for the excellent presentation

Just go to your local hardware store or harbor freight, pick up a set of pipe clamps and a short section of pipe. Same idea, quick and cheap.

Such a neat little vise. I’ll def be making one for my shop.

I didn't go for the first, fixed-rear rod version because, like you, I could imagine myself banging into those protruding threaded rods. I already ordered this kit and grabbed the plans. Good to have a company that continues to improve its offerings. Thanks for sharing, Jim.

I embedded a bike chain inside mine to make both screws operate simultaneously.

made this design (very similar) about 4 years ago. at the time, I used what I had on hand.. would have been perfect if I had a coarse thread for the all thread I used. The second was made with a kit from Taylor tools with protruding screw. I thought it would bother me... but in practice, I find both about same (less screw adjustment speed). Thanks for great video (par for course). :)

Thanks for the tutorial, James! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

I like that you can work with a board vertically. Very clever.

Just bought your kit. Literally needed one today

Just one more point of proof that our ancestors were not at all unintelligent--there are many who still hold this misconception! Humans have always been observant, adaptable, and practical when it comes to getting things done, especially necessary things. The fact that we're still iterating on this same design, four centuries later, is a testament to their prowess.

@BugGenerat0r

Ай бұрын

I’ve come to realize that we today are just as superstitious as our ancestors. There might be more folks today who believe in wild conspiracy theories, and these are the same ones who burned witches in the past.

Great video! Very helpfull!

Thank you, Stump. Great design.

Thank you for sharing and highlighting how easy this is to build.

I got the hardware from Taylor Tools a few years ago. I built it into my bench I was building as an edge vise. I also added a wagon vise using their hardware.

Going to make this. Thanks.

Shop fox vernier press clamps are a useable alternative if you can’t get the threaded rod kits. I made mine with them. The back nut needs mounting slightly different but it’s not too challenging.

Wow! what a great idea, thanks! Will put it on my list to build on a rainy day.

Thanks for sharing with us James, great deal with the free plans and instructions too. Stay safe and keep up the good work. Fred.

Thank you I've been looking for something like this.

This would work really well for luthier work as well if you need to clamp a piece that doesn’t have parallel edges like a guitar/ bass neck

Thanks James! What a handy vise. Very useful. 😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤

You have just solved my workshop problem, thanks.

Stumpy Nubs puts a video online demonstrating a kit. Five minutes later: kit already sold out 😂 I'll check back later ;-)

been in need of better work holding for my portable site shop setup. I could see this being a real nice addition for hanging doors and all kinds of other things. Thanks for that, ordered.

Great video as always James definitely going to make one of these. Thanks for sharing

Happy I found your channel. I've enjoyed every episode that I've seen. It's like once every 5 years KZread suggests something that is actually very good, you happened to be the next one in that twice a decade surprise!

Thanks for the video. Order placed. My woodworking shop is literally the backyard, consequently I don't have a lot of space for storing my tools, etc. This will work out perfectly. Always wanted a Mix in vise and this will work out great. Thanks again.

I have had this kit in my " to get to" pile of tools, I think I will get it done, Great kit well packed and a good value Thanks for the push to get it done

I made one with some vintage vice screws i found on my travels. Its excellent. A powerful ally.

Thanks (not later) great idea. Tom Byrne

Thanks

Made one of these years ago and mounted it flush to the left side of my table saw as I have a small shop and my saw doubles as my work bench. Added a couple blind holes on the top of the moveable jaw to act as bench dog holders to use it as a horizontal clamp.

I built a similar Moxon vise similar to this one but without the square nut bracket - didn’t think of it. The vise itself is wonderful. Lots of open space and no racking issues.

I've got 2 of those vices on a workbench I built for cutting dovetails and joinery only. One of them has a 24 in opening mounted on one end of the bench. The other will hold a 31 inch panel mounted on the side of the bench I use for casework.. They're both long enough I can put longer boards into to plane the boards for glue ups with a joiner plane. Both are mounted flush to the top of the bench. I built that bench probably 10 years ago and it's my go to bench. Thanks for your video.

I have a vice like that that has a chain link between the handles so that you can wind one handle and the other handle follows suit allowing the outer jaw to operate parallel to the rear jaw

This was my pick for a cheap woodworking startup kit I made awhile back. Cheap and easy, nothing fancy but highly effective. Only difference was I had two holdfasts instead of clamps to hold the vice since if you're using the vice you won't be needing the holdfasts but you might be needing the clamps.

Thanks! 🍻

Great video. I made my own moxon vise a few months ago. It makes things so much nicer cutting joinery!

Lovely

great stuff

I'm not a wood worker at all, metal is my material of choice. But I do enjoy your videos , you're straight forward and not an elitist (from what I've seen). Keep us through good work.

One issue I see is that you need to first set the jaws two approximately opening needed based on thickness of material. This is so that one hand can hold the material while the other hand alternates between tightening the two handles.

So simple yet so handy. I could really use one, or two...

Like the idea, went there using your provide link AND sold out. LOL

@737smartin

Ай бұрын

Looks from posting times like you missed it between zero and six hours. 🥲

@usd25674

Ай бұрын

@@737smartin Yep, went there thinking they would still have some, but no. But they have my email and will email me when they are restocked.

Wow! I just spent the afternoon in my garage working on a project that included using a router to round over a small piece of trim. It took me a while to figure out how to hold it and I'm not going to share what I did because it was remarkably ugly and probably a bit dangerous. This vise looks like the perfect solution. Unfortunately, I had to settle for the wait list because I was busy in the garage while the kit was selling out. I'll try to move quicker in the future. Thanks for this and for cool tools and for all the other videos you produce.

that is awesome! thanks for this video!

Great video. This was one of my first woodworking projects when I started. It has been my go to vise ever since. All of my hardware came from a big box store and the thread is a little fine but it works.

Leave it to you to let us know about this amazing, flexible and sturdy vise. Thank you! You were right - Taytools sold out within a day. I’m actually glad. I love this vendor.

The height factor is great! However, the vise was wobbling whilst you were sawing. The wing nuts were turning too slowly, you should be able to spin them faster with more pressure from just one of your index fingers on each wing nut, in unison. Good idea to hide and auto-align the nuts on the opposite side to the wing nuts. Definitely room for improvement.

Great video. You also did moxon vise how-to several years ago using pipe clamps. Made one soon thereafter and it still does the job. Thanks!

Thank you so much for this video. I love the portable ability of this vise. I did no think anything like this existed. You are right about better order kit now, or they all will be sold out. I am 11 hours to late, but I got on waiting list

That’s good adVise.

@Otisthelesser

Ай бұрын

I see what you did there.

@oleran4569

Ай бұрын

@@Otisthelesser The guy has to make a living.

@Otisthelesser

Ай бұрын

@@oleran4569 I wasn’t complaining about it. I was saying the “ADvise” comment was clever.

Built one for fun because it looked cool and now I constantly use it. One difference: I used a couple of big eye bolts & matching nuts as hardware. Cheap & it works fine. Thread could have been coarser though.

I started making a Moxon vise a while back using some acme thread rod I salvaged from a kitchen trash compactor. Just need to make the handles, everything else is done. I should really just finish it. Thanks for sharing!

I made one today. Bought the hardware kit and used loctite superglue. See if that holds

Always a great video.

What a great idea, thanks Stubby Nubs!

Nice to see simple easy to build tools, and as always supporting smaller businesses. A suggestion - the amount of movement while sawing would feel "wrong". To help stop movement on the pull stroke you can add a piece of lumber that goes from the top of front face of the rear clamp down to the depth of your bench. The width of the piece would be the a little smaller than the 1/2 the difference in length of the two jaws, one each side - and the clamp hole extended through it as well. The clamp should still only be clamped on the original jaw to provide proper clamping - your clamps could easily do this. Or perhaps make the hole in the support larger. To stop movement on the push stroke, add some more pieces fixed behind the rear jaw to provide a rear support. Of course the downside is that when being stored it now takes up a lot more room. Perhaps the rear supports could be hinged and have jacks to provide the needed support...

Another great one JIm!!!

Stumpy, another well done video. This video I will keep and use … BUT, { ain’t there always a but }, I was just thinking ~ wouldn’t it work to mortise in the square capture nut into the jaw then cover it with a heavy washer held by 4 screws? This would eliminate having to make the wood boxes. Easer, cleaner, and more elegant. And iffen you ever need to get to it ~ easy peasy. Well now, that’s my thought and I’m sticking to it. Let know what you think of it.

A set of springs between the fixed/movable jaws or capturing the movable jaw with a snap ring on the screw would make the opening of the clamp easier. That said, I have clamped objects with wood scraps and wood screws. Keep up the content, it's refreshing to see examples where it's not just about tool equipment reviews but workshop inspired ideas.

Absolutely just what I needed looked at other options but none worked for me. Great job on your videos

It’s called a Moxon vise now. But it was in Feleben’s book even before Moxon’s.

Alternately, build an "H" out of 4x4s with the central part 2/3rds the length of a side (stacked 2x4s are ok too). Lay it sideways on your bench, and clamp it in place. 2 more clamps hold your work in place. It's a simple bench bull.

Thanks for another great video and shop tip 😀. I presently don't have space in my shop for a nice big woodworking bench, plus an assembly bench, infeed and outfeed tables, and, and, and, and...but I do have a really nice 5 x 2.5 ft electric/hydraulic adj height work table with a Formica top that I end up using for most things...except it doesn't have any vises. In the past I had considered building a big, clamp-on wood table top with dog holes and vises, but recently I have been thinking of smaller individual add-ons, just like this. So thanks for helping me make up my mind! This really is a great deal. I have searched the interwebs for Moxon vise kits, and this is the best one, looking at price and parts included. I was able to find two that were a few bucks less expensive, but 1) they didn't include bushings, 2) had small hex nuts instead of the larger square ones, and 3) you had to roll the dice with Ali Express, and then wait weeks. CraftyGuyInTheWoods isn't as big as your nice shop/business...YET...but getting great tips definitely helps move me in that direction!

Yes! I will build one of these. 👍👍 I REALLY like the idea of cork in the jaws. I'm making mine out of some black oak boards I have in my newly finished wood kiln. This will be fun!

@FiltyIncognito

Ай бұрын

Leather might be a better alternative. More durable, less spongey, and you can easily take it out. Imagine trying to replace the worn-out or torn-up cork.

I built mine with the Benchcrafted kit as there wasn't really any alternative I was aware of at the time and I have their vises on my bench. It's a beautiful thing but it's $189 these days. Granted is has ACME threads which are better but in this application basic UN threads are fine. I wish I knew about this or it was available when I built mine.

Outstanding, 😎👍👍

I almost bought that kit when I ordered from Taylor Toolworks in March. However, I need to finish some projects first.

@geoffb108

Ай бұрын

They call him the procrastinator.

I made a handle for a wheel vise using a threaded revolving handle and it is very comfortable to hold while turning. I think this would also be a good application.