To carry on your main point, the whole purpose of communication in this scenario is to establish CONSENT. That's THE big thing we really need to hammer home in our fandom, because receiving consent for an interaction matters more than coming off as awkward or annoying. Otherwise you end up getting situations like someone following you into the headless lounge, since they weren't willing to communicate with you at all. My relationship with you is different than most since we at least know each other, but that core concept of consent remains true regardless of who's involved and how. We should always treat people as human beings, regardless of their status or popularity, and respect their boundaries relative to how well we know them. I know most of us are pretty awkward when it comes to social interaction, but if we want to ensure that our con experiences are mutually fun and enjoyable, we owe each other that bare minimum of basic communication. -Vela

To sum it up: don’t act creepy

I've had what I refer to as a "table stalker" several years ago at Morphicon. This guy started out talking about commissions then after deciding he didn't have the money to get one stayed and just kind of poked around at the items on my table. When other people stopped to look he'd interrupt them when they tried to buy from me or would stand in front of my table and not move to let them look. I asked him to please let people through several times then eventually had to tell him to leave. At the end of the day while closing up he showed up again saying he was there to help me tear down. I told him no but he wouldn't leave until a staff member ushered him out, then he stood in the hallway waiting. The staff hung around with me until he left. The next morning he showed up again, this time the staff members called security on him. Turns out he didn't even have a badge to be in the con space ( he was covered in hand drawn character badges so it was hard to tell) and had been caught doing some other seedy stuff so he was escorted off the property.

what gets me confused is when people call you a creep when you were given permission to tag along... at furrydelphia i followed a goat around that i was talking to in telegram and i had the goats permission... as soon as she got with her friends they got agressive calling me a creep and then tried to publicly shame me in group chats and i had no idea what happened either because there was no reason or autistic issues made it impossible for me to understand there was a change from when she said it was okay for me to hang out with her

@patooeyspit

2 жыл бұрын

Dang

@goodolrainbowpet

2 жыл бұрын

@@patooeyspit yeah... furries are fun but can be confusing

@Blast2224

2 жыл бұрын

She wanted your attention until she got with her friends. Which is mean. That’s why when conversations end with me, I wait for the person to ask me to join. If I have to ask, it makes me look desperate especially if the person IS “popular” or “known”. That power dynamic leads to you become an accessory and not a friend.

Random people stalking in furry conventions makes me feel very uncomfortable and unsafe

@vwvcvlt4894

2 жыл бұрын

This is actually the first time I heard of a stalking problem

@kreblozthefolf5194

2 жыл бұрын

@@vwvcvlt4894 I never got a stalking problem honestly, I’m just letting myself know

@vwvcvlt4894

2 жыл бұрын

@@kreblozthefolf5194 hopefully my first con would go smoothly without any sort of problem not just stalking

@kreblozthefolf5194

2 жыл бұрын

@@vwvcvlt4894 Stay safe from COVID too, furry cons are packed with lots of furries

@retrobyte2581

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, this actually goes for any convention. You don't just stalk someone. I don't go to furrycon, but I do know when people stalk you, anything could happen, even you getting hurt or kidnapped. This is why people don't like it.

*sigh* it’s gonna be a LONG time before I’ll ever go to a furry convention… Still it gives me something to look forward to in my life! Gotta keep lookin on the bright side! 😅

@motus9612

2 жыл бұрын

Same here, except my problem is parents

@bubblegumfox2625

2 жыл бұрын

@@motus9612 heh well my parents are also kinda a problem too, I mean among other things like being poor, shy and ultimately too lonely to go to something like a convention

@motus9612

2 жыл бұрын

@@bubblegumfox2625 well my problem with parents is the confession and explanation

@pinkythecat2850

2 жыл бұрын

I’m still in the closet (and my brother hates furries, idk bout parents) :D I probably won’t be doing any cons or stuff like that until I move out- :,D

@motus9612

2 жыл бұрын

@@pinkythecat2850 same here, except I really want to go to one and I feel my best option is to confess so I can go to a con, so I'm looking to ways to tell parents what a furry is and that I am

Could you make a video on how to make new friends at furry conventions. How does someone go into a con and come out with new friends?

@waelon

2 жыл бұрын

Interact with people ! Come up to those who are alone.

@Sykozona

2 жыл бұрын

Talk to them

another fluffy video, also yeah dont stalk at furry cons-

@icel8828

2 жыл бұрын

Just don’t stalk in general

@Zyron416

2 жыл бұрын

@@icel8828 want me to stalk you? I'll give you iced tea from Starbucks or sum?

@trebor_the_protogentvods

2 жыл бұрын

@@icel8828 good point

@icel8828

2 жыл бұрын

@@Zyron416 nah. I’m more into sweet tea Or English breakfast tea When it comes to tea

@Zyron416

2 жыл бұрын

@@icel8828 tea is amazing lol, i havent had a English Breakfast with the tea in ages unfortunately.

I've been too far into the apocalypse game genre. Whenever I hear 'Stalker' I immediately think of Chernobyl. Is this a curse or a blessing?

@Zuion_Art

2 жыл бұрын

*Both*

@citrusfruity

2 жыл бұрын

@Jesus Christ Gaming ayo my man jesus do be gaming

@citrusfruity

2 жыл бұрын

@Jesus Christ Gaming hell yeah man, monster energy 4 life

Beta makes a ludwig "I'm not your friend video" and we all clapped

I had a well-intentioned "stalker" for an afternoon at a furcon because I'd chatted with them briefly because they looked anxious and I wanted to put them at ease, and I guess they took that as an invitation to follow me *everywhere.* I don't bear that person any ill will, because it was clear that they clearly struggled with socializing and just didn't know the right way to proceed. It's a bummer when someone isn't malicious or bad-intentioned, but annoys, offends, bothers, or hurts others with their social faux pas even so. Ignorance or "good intentions" don't excuse bad behavior, mind you, but it does make me wish that those people had better outlets for learning and practicing social skills.

Stalking in most public places will result in having the cops called on you. It's even illegal in some places. So what makes it okay in a Convention setting? Use some common sense lol

I saw that thumbnail and was like: *I GOTTA CLICK ON DIS* I was in school, but idc about that

Thankyou for this insight, i wouldnt have thought of this otherwise

"dont stalk people at a furry convention" stalks at an anime convention: wait thats illegal

I went to Denfur and you were the first popufur I met. Like my head like exploded fur a second xD It was only 30 seconds but Im glad I got to Thank You personally for your content^^ I was honestly too nervous to ask fur a picture. Hopefully next time^^

I once had a dude follow me around in school through the entire day, pretending like he had class or had to use the restroom, or just in general pretending like he had some place to be. Then when I confronted him I literally pulled out a pocket knife and yelled "STOP FOLLOWING ME! I WILL SLOWLY EJECT THIS INSIDE YOU, IF YOU DON'T STOP!"

Never been to a furry con but I have had a stalker vibe in comic cons when in cosplay

*remembers how many times the strawberry fox got stalked* I actually think you were in that group when it happened if I'm not wrong. .-.

i would be more like a lost puppy at this point, just being unaware of what is going on until it is to late

"I would prefer you asked than not ask at all" Say it louder, king

Every time i wanted to tag along with furries or fursuiters, especially in the evening when it was quiet and i had nothing better to do, I asked and made sure that i am allowed to walk along with them. Following along without them having your permission and no specific reason (like asking for a photo, or anything ) is just playing weird. There where times when i was out at the lobby, wondering what to do and there was a time when i asked for a picture and asked, if i can tag along and look around.

sorry you have to go through this, im not really a popufur but I have social media's and I have quite a few followers, so im not really worried about it but it still can happen. If I saw someone stalking someone I would definitely come over and stop them, cause its never ok to stalk someone.

There is a level of communication below talking which is bodylanguage purrfectly suitable to establish consent. In a mere second coming closer an inviting gesture, a shy hug and friendly pressure built up. I'm happy to have to resort to talking in fursuit only to those who are blind to it (which i dont blame them for). Of course it is deniable consent and in rare cases will be missunderstood and need verbal clarification. Talking in fursuit ruins my headspace for acting as my fursona. Of course building up a 100.000 subscriber channel triggers problems and a reality other people would never experience or have to worry about.

Well I don’t go to those but ok time to watch a video on an Aston Martin Lagonda from Doug DeMuro

can we talk about the screm at the intro? lol

I haven’t even been to a fur con, but I know better than to be following people around like a creep, it’s just a given fact.

One day I was at the Japan touch and I wanted to take a picture of furries bcs they looked very cute the problem is he ask me for a hug but I was also kinda sick at this time... I didn't know how to react I panic I hug him and I feeled bad for the entire convention knowing he will probably get a cold bcs of me ;-;

Glizzy maverick is back. Finally

furry conventions are so cool

That's what I said just ask I mean I don't have any problem with anyone tagging along and on trying to get to know new people but whenever you're stalking people it can make a lot of people uncomfortable and I think a lot of furries don't mind if you want to hang out and just tag along but just don't stalk them don't stalk anyone for that matter...

As an autistic person, it is hard for me to understand social queues. But, even then, it is just common sence to think "huh, maybe I shouldn't follow this person around". (Sorry if I misspelled something, english isn't my native language.)

@AidenProtogen

Жыл бұрын

I'm autistic myself and my social group of people is kind of mixed, so what I mean, if I'm a big fan of a user and see them in person, I would want to ask them things, have photos and videos etc not doing, I'm sort of annoying them until it's too late.

I don’t know Nox personally but I’ll take yer word that’s she’s nice

I saw that body pillow. Where did you get it?

I can't believe I'm bout to type this, but yes I too was stalked at a furry convention. but this character was far more blunt... instead of hiding in the shadows he actively came up to me and several of my friends AND a couple other people thru out the con. and he'd always kiss people, right on the face. I had my fursuit on sometimes but I made the mistake of taking it off and as a result he actively kissed me on the face. and it's unfortunate because I had to get tested, because un-beyonce to me chlamydia and syphilis are spread thru kissing *or anything oral* and it didn't help when people confirmed this character was HIV+ which can't be spread thru kissing but is horrible if sexual things with people we're his intention, even if he's U=U or not. It got to the point where I began to feel unsafe because kissing random people is something you should never do especially during a pandemic, and even worse off that the only reason why I feel targetted is because me and this person hung out like twice a long time ago. I can report however the kissing did end up getting him banned from the furcon so that's a plus at least

My favorite thing to do at furry conventions is to leave the furry convention.

How is Anthro New England? I might go

This just seems so Obvious, this shouldn’t have to be explained. Someone should make “Just Ask” shirt.

My only question is why is Maverick in a hot dog costume?

If I may ask since I'm still new to the fandom, what's the headless lounge?

@rayedapanda3233

2 жыл бұрын

It's basically a room designated for fursuiters and their handlers to allow them to take off their heads and cool off in a semi private area without people taking pictures. If you're not a fursuiter, you're not really supposed to go in there unless you're with someone suiting.

@chrisfratz

2 жыл бұрын

@@rayedapanda3233 Ah, I see. I figured that, but I figured I should ask to make sure.

How do I pet furries as a Norwegian alpaca?

I knew that somebody would play S.T.A.L.K.E.R jokes in the chat.

So now I have to worry about stalkers?

@sml7564

2 жыл бұрын

Just bring a weapon of you're choice, mine's a metal pipe :^) , for self defense of course : P

It will be awkward if my room is next to a fursuiter. I hope not.

@giothefew4300

2 жыл бұрын

Not really.

My Fursona is Wolf Dragon and fox

How do i find furry kickboxing or sports discord servers?

Why did this video remind me of a car driving over my leg

Saving 20 minutes of your life: don't stalk at furry conventions

@typicalfurry2747

2 жыл бұрын

Also ask him at a furry convention if you want to follow him for a bit. But don't take it personally if he says no

I was going to go to furrydelphia but I never got to go

that is absolutely fucking terrifying

Stalking is never ok. People get it in their heads that it's ok just because the person has a following and that people will naturally want to gravitate towards them. It's ok to ask, but just following somebody everywhere they go, especially when you dont know them not only makes people uncomfortable, it can make them feel unsafe. Also it hasnt happened much but there have been some people that want to use me to try and get to Beta. Nobody likes being a stepping stone to get to someone else. I ain't going to be spreading people's private info just so you can say hi >.>

Moral of the story; don't tag along with any body, not even you're friends or family nor you're pet.

Don't ignore plainly obvious social clues

I love how we have to have deep and heated debates about this kind of thing because we're all rejects that have no idea how to be social.

yes lol stalkers interesting concept ugh i used to be a fanboy of last year ik its a bit awkward a 26 year old being a fanboy but i was awkwardly fanboyish and stalker to an extent if talking too much online to popular fursuiters ill admit i was creepy but i got a boyfriend and alot of friends i don't care anymore i got and i talk to fursuiters friends now without an issue idk if id say trust but id not bother with them i learned the biggest thing NOT to do is do not idolize popular fursuiters there ordinary people like us it only makes yourself shy and nervous and disrespect pfil too yes there awesome but not to be idolized it makes u a creep

Damn I smell like cheese OwO..... hahahah.

Nice

I’m early how ya doin beta

@George.lovesseals

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not beta but I'm pretty good

@hyperdrip9247

2 жыл бұрын

That’s fine and that’s good

Is a handler at conventions staff or is it somebody like a friend or something?

It always seemed obvious courtesy "don't mind if I hang around you do ya?" And that's While holding a camera to make videos. What's everyone else's plan I wonder? Really you just need to confront the person right away when you notice them. Not in a hostile way just ask them what they are doing. Don't let someone else ruin your time, communication is a two way street. I think its dissappointing when people just internalize their problems with others and you have all these people who just sit there wondering what they did wrong and the person they wronged not even having the balls to vocalize it to them.

Is asking first and only follow if they give consent okay? It's not stalking if you ask first. If they say no, you shouldn't follow them. Edit: Lol I was right. I didn't watch the video when I commented this.

that sure is a thumbnail

NICE

that's creepy

make a discord...

You're absolutely right, Beta. Truly, you should always ask first before you begin stalking someone at a fursuit convention. I kinda believed you had to make this video about it. But, what if you had to stalk for some kind of video or you're rping? I think there are right ways and wrong ways to stalk a person. This way was the wrong way. But now, Beta, I think you want to go ahead and stalk the person who stalked you. You don't want him to get away with what happened to you, right? Compensation is out of the question. He made you feel lousy and insecure, right? Time for payback.

Pog champ gamers

owo welp add block gliched and i had to watch 2 adds your welcome

I'm not even a furry I just clicked the video because I saw a big dog in a bigger hotdog

@paxd8555

2 жыл бұрын

Nice

"Never do this at furry conventions" Me: Yeah, that includes you, anti furries and furry haters

Hi

Hola Shinytotodileboi

Like I said in the other video, just have some damn common sense and everything will be fine

Time to ruin furr-HAHAHAH

I like you skin suit

Sup how are yall :D♡

@bad_youtuber4982

2 жыл бұрын

I’m doing alright, hope you’re doing just as well or better :3

@George.lovesseals

2 жыл бұрын

@@bad_youtuber4982 thx :3

@lughkvjgd5075

2 жыл бұрын

Hungry, hbu?

@George.lovesseals

2 жыл бұрын

@@lughkvjgd5075 got a pretty bad clod pretty pog just watching sqishmallows

what what happened to your face i just came back after a break

Earlyyy

"Don't do this at furry conventions" **Puts down AWP** **Angry pouting**

You look like a Ford Fuckus- Focus guy.

3

777 likes

yooo im early lets fucking go

QwQ

Stalking ❌ Shooting ✅ (This is joke)

@sml7564

2 жыл бұрын

No, not neccessary btw, just bring a pipe and whack those you wanna meet. (This is a joke)

@roflryan1

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the gas as well.

@sml7564

2 жыл бұрын

Gas "No" But Bombs "Yes" (This is also a joke :P)

So furries don't want you to be friends with them and just want you to say hi and leave then how you supposed to get anywhere

@alexthejackalope6009

2 жыл бұрын

Theirs a difference in tryna be a friend and being a stalker pal maybe you didnt pay attention?

@christopherwelsh1785

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexthejackalope6009 no I've just been around the block so many f****** times that all I've been is ignored by furries because I wasn't the type they were looking for because I didn't have a name in the fandom so yeah I'm not exactly trustworthy of what all furry say because it usually tends to be a lie