It's sort of nuts to see how much work Lumet crammed into getting his performances so perfect. I just watched 12 Angry Men again for the first time in a few years after watching your Dog Day Afternoon video and that intensity from his casts persists throughout all of his filmography.

@CinemaTyler

6 жыл бұрын

I totally know what you mean. I happened to catch Fail Safe on TCM a while back and was just blown away by the performances. I really feel his rehearsal method is a necessity for dialogue-heavy films.

@dcanmore

6 жыл бұрын

I recommend The Hill (1965) and The Offence (1972), two excellently acted movies with Sean Connery. The Hill being one of my favourite all-time films.

@zonachoke

4 жыл бұрын

In this picture, it wasn't just Lumet. Chayefsky, not Lumet, had "final cut." I guess they got on the same page.

@BlackPDigitalMedia

4 жыл бұрын

it's the intensity of a play performance.. theater!

@actorsfeedbackforum

Жыл бұрын

@@CinemaTyler it's a necessity for any film, they just simply ignore that necessity because: money.

Network is still probably the most prophetic film ever created. I remember reading that in 1976, people called it over the top and unrealistic. Network looks almost tame by comparison to the media of today.

@zonachoke

5 жыл бұрын

This -- and "ED tv": the 1999 satire on Reality TV that became the blueprint for every dang Reality show in the 21st Century.

@MTFOphantom

4 жыл бұрын

Its spot on accurate for today. Its certainly more relevant to today then when it came out in 76

@HoldenNY22

4 жыл бұрын

The Movie was Way ahead of its Time. I saw it when it originally came out.. I'm not a Spring Chicken anymore, but it is still a great Movie. "I'm Mad as Hell and I'm not going to take it anymore."

@uremawifenowdave

4 жыл бұрын

HoldenNY22 with age comes wisdom my friend:)

@xBINARYGODx

4 жыл бұрын

It;s not actually surprising that a lot of satire ends up being prophetic. On another note - "It;s considered a great film only by people who don;t understand politics" is the dumbest thing I have read this weak, and this week I have read at least one of the Trumps tweets.

"Network" tried to forecast how outlandish television would become. They way underestimated...

@JohnSmith-kz8yo

4 жыл бұрын

ikr..."The sane and the insane can easily change places in society"....Confucius

@billshire2681

4 жыл бұрын

Because you wouldn't have believed it otherwise.

@Thy_Boss

2 жыл бұрын

_Network_ provided bombastic commentary on the media at the time, and it has aged very well. There is really no need for absurd hyperbole about "way underestimated" when the movie can be appreciated for what it was and what it is: one of the greatest works in the history of cinema.

This is one of the few movies that i found almost flawless. The acting, the screenplay, directing, cinematography were so good, i feel so empty after the credits rolls.

A movie that belongs in the same conversation as 1984, Metropolis, The Trueman Show and the 1st Matrix movie.......all movies that display the neverending story!!

@istra70

4 жыл бұрын

You mean story turning into our reality ......

@Pimp-Master

3 жыл бұрын

Finally saw "The Truman Show"--man, it shows how fake societies are created on purpose. It's very timely for right now.

@the-engneer

3 жыл бұрын

Don't forget "They Live" by John Carpenter, who also happens to be in the movie Network

@Thy_Boss

2 жыл бұрын

This movie belongs in the same conversation as (names 4 movies a lot of people on the Internet probably know)

@honved1

2 жыл бұрын

Which 1984? Peter Cushing or John hurt? There’s a third one but it’s not worth mentioning

Duvall is so good in this, I've watched a few of his classics lately and I feel like we don't give him his due. Consistantly great performances.

@randywhite3947

3 жыл бұрын

Imo he was the best actor of the 70s

@the-engneer

3 жыл бұрын

He never gives a bad performance period Even to this day

@spencermakote7436

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. One of my favourite character actors and immensely underrated.

@jimgutt749

6 ай бұрын

Intractible and adamantine!

Faye Dunaway is such a great actor. She has a passion and strength that runs deep underneath her obvious surface beauty.

@lustforchanel3051

4 жыл бұрын

Uremawife Nowdave its so sad that she’s so mean to people

@georgeguja6155

4 жыл бұрын

@@lustforchanel3051 she's not mean she's a bit of a perfectionist and it's a shame that she hasn't done any good movies recently

@lustforchanel3051

4 жыл бұрын

George Guja almost everyone that has worked with that woman has said she’s a horror to work with tho...

@georgeguja6155

4 жыл бұрын

@@lustforchanel3051 maybe but she's still really good

@winstonsmiththx1138

3 жыл бұрын

@@lustforchanel3051 what exactly does that have to do with how talented an actor she is?

Network is one of those rare movies that gets better each time I watch it.

Dammit. You made me watch it again. I teared up a bit when the people started yelling out their windows.

I have been in the film business since I was 6. I have never seen someone as you with so much knowledge and analyzing the points what makes an outstanding in directing, cinematography, acting and how those films becomes classics. Congratulations!

@CinemaTyler

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

Your essay gets a medal for never feeling like information-overload. Not even once, not in narration, nor in editing or anything else. Did you have that in mind while making it? If you didn't, then that's a great subproduct of your style.

@Thy_Boss

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, most people capable of presenting information are indeed thinking about the amount of information to present when they present information

@Daniel-Rosa.

2 жыл бұрын

@@Thy_Boss Oh Lord... I think I am one of those people. Thank you. You've helped with an essay of mine.

I'm a human being god damn it. My life has meaning.

@DanDeLeoninthefield

3 жыл бұрын

You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won’t have it! Is that clear?!

@proto-geek248

2 жыл бұрын

Uh huh

@radentstwo9793

2 жыл бұрын

"Value"

The extra “as” in the mad as hell line is how an Australian would say it. Peter Finch just reverted to the way he would say it naturally when he was emotionally charged up during the filming.

@Keithustus

3 жыл бұрын

Cool. And by now it’s become American, because of him.

@johnsage3466

Жыл бұрын

I had to listen to the lines at least 4 or 5 times and simply couldn't pick the extra word, and then had to count all the words to find where there was a difference. Being Australian it is totally correct that the extra as is exactly how an Australian would naturally say it, and when the people shouting out on windows with American accents yell it, that sounds entirely natural. (and yes i know he is playing an american, but as an Australian i simply couldn't hear the difference in the two lines).

The acting was so good because the script was brilliant. Anyone could have won an Oscar with this script. Paddy Cheyefsky was a genius.

@actorsfeedbackforum

Жыл бұрын

A brilliant script can be ruined by hack actors and a crappy script (as is more often the case) can be elevated by brilliant actors. Brilliant script + brilliant actors + brilliant Director = a masterpiece like Network. It was a huge success because it was done right on every level.

@VitaliyMilonov

Жыл бұрын

I've watched other movies written by Cheyefsky and they sucked ass. Network is the only great one.

@actorsfeedbackforum

Жыл бұрын

@@VitaliyMilonov Apparently many others, including the Academy disagree with you: --- "Sidney Aaron "Paddy" Chayefsky was an American playwright, screenwriter and novelist. He is the only person to have won three solo Academy Awards for writing both adapted and original screenplays. He was one of the most renowned dramatists of the Golden Age of Television."

@VitaliyMilonov

Жыл бұрын

@@actorsfeedbackforum Oh no, big snooty coke factory disagrees with me! I must be wrong!

@actorsfeedbackforum

Жыл бұрын

@@VitaliyMilonov 😆I am proud of you for acknowledging your wrongness! This is growth!

THE scene in this movie about brings me to tears every time I see it. The speech is even more poignant now.

When Max is breaking up with Diana and he's at the "last link to humanity" and the "shrill, shrieking nothingness" bit- Diana looks MASSIVELY vulnerable there. She goes from immense rage to stricken desperation. She feels exactly what Max is saying and will do anything to feel something else... But it's too late as she is irreparably emotionally damaged. Thus her true inner self -- stripped of all projections, appearances, facades and professionalism -- is one of utter loneliness, pain and anguish.

@georgeguja6155

4 жыл бұрын

The first time I watched the movie that scene emotionally drained me thanks to Wiliam Holden and Faye Dunaway

@georgeguja3192

4 жыл бұрын

skatemetrix aren't you gonna answer that was one of of my favourite scenes because (and it's just my opinion) but there is a brief moment where Diana is grabing a cup in the kitchen and her hand is shaking this shows that she still has some humanity some feelings left and she may even fear of being left by Max so once again I want to talk more about Diana I think she is more to her character that has been discussed already

Dog Day Afternoon was so tension filled that the violent ending was a relief finally. Pacino was brilliant in the role! But I knew from the very beginning the minute when they were stuck in the bank that they were doomed. They were better off just giving up and pleading for mercy from the court. But they kept going thinking they were going to a plane to leave the country. No way were they going to be allowed to get to a plane. So his buddy got shot point blank in the head and Pacino was done. A brutal ending! I actually felt relief after that because the tension just kept building before that so much that it was unbearable. Great movie if you feel like feeling tense.

This is great. There's always so much to learn from Lumet, and this is a terrific compilation of his approaches to Network. Thanks.

As Edward G Robinson might have put it....’You’re good - you are very very good’!

Sidney Lumet’s book, Making Movies, is required reading for anyone who wants to work in film, and it’s a terrific book even if you just like to watch them.

I had no idea how good of an actor Faye Dunaway was until I saw this film. She earned that award 👏

Obviously the Academy loved it because It skewered TV, Hollywood's archenemy back then.

@mskidi

3 жыл бұрын

That and the monologues. Academy loves emotional monologues and this film was a never ending monologue, start to finish.

This is a well resourceful and great! Network is one of the greatest films of all time!

@zippoboyshaneshank8954

5 жыл бұрын

I just posted a comment comparing Network and The Wire... I figure you're a fan Mr. Freeman.

You are so right about Network. I’m 48 years old and know how prophetic this movie is. I think that can easily be lost on anyone who grew up in the age of talk shows, reality TV, and the internet.

Other Lumet pictures with powerhouse acting are The Hill (my favorite of his), The Offense, Equus, Serpico, and The Verdict.

great film, always loved the lighting. that scene where Peter Finch is talking to god in his bed always struck me as something out of the exorcist.

@liduck52

3 жыл бұрын

Owen Roizman shot both movies.

love this movie, you don't see acting like this from most actors today

@zonachoke

5 жыл бұрын

That's because it's rarely demanded of them.

@dildonius

4 жыл бұрын

Yes you do. You either just don’t see it because you don’t bother to actually watch movies made after the year 2010 or don’t see it because you deliberately ignore and blow off and don’t pay attention to the performances of modern actors in order to maintain that snobby, hyper-nostalgic sense of superiority. So you can continue scoffing about how everything that’s new is worthless garbage and only things from 25+ years ago are worth anything. Whichever case it may be, you clearly need to sit your ass down and watch a little film called “Birdman or: The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance” (2015). In fact, I’m compelled to watch it again myself and remind myself of what a film that won the Oscar for Best Picture because it genuinely was the Best Picture looks like.

@theboofin

4 жыл бұрын

@@dildonius Triggered...

@jacobvarney23

3 жыл бұрын

@@dildonius *2014

@the-engneer

3 жыл бұрын

@@dildonius Name one good film made in the last 5 year's. Please do, because I want to see one! One that is so good I actually remember it the next day.....

Ehhhhh, what about Dunaway's _other_ vulnerable moment? "Then don't leave... me." That's the line that struck me as her most humanizing. Seemed like it even struck her as she heard it leaving her own mouth. "I don't know how to do that," was just pure honesty, and she doesn't have any shortage of purely honest lines in the movie. But the moment she asks Holden not to leave her, I'm thinking "Seriously? She actually cares whether or not he leaves? That's kinda surprising."

this movie is the prophecy. it's amazing. every kills in this. i rewatch frequently. Ned Beatty!

It's overwhelming how great all the performances in the movie were. All the actors were at the top of their f**king game, i mean Robert Duvall could have got an Oscar Nomination (Best Supporting) as well even Marlene Warfield who portrayed underground revolutionary Laureen Hobbs there seriously isn't a dull moment in this classic movie........

Brilliant commentary that complements Lumet's own commentary on the DVD, without being redundant at all. Well done!!

Damn Faye Dunaway was hot!

That episode of Black Mirror, 50,000,000 credits or something, owes a lot to this movie.

@Bartaci

4 жыл бұрын

@Jason Thompson That's the one, cheers.

Can't wait for the second part. As always, deeply insightful. One of the best horror movies (I see it that way) ever made.

WOW THE HOTEL DIPLOMAT? That is where KISS was discovered!

Your patrons got some good taste; I forgot how good this movie was.

This should be shown in film and theater schools. Brilliant choices, writing, editing and narration.

Amazing movie and awesome analysis. The things about Lumet make me appreciate the movie even more.

Man, I love this channel. And Network is dear to my heart. Cannot wait for part II.

I love how specific you are Tyler. Great stuff! I have the audiobook of Lumet's "Making Movies" in my car, and I listen to it every now and then while driving. It's a real treat to get inside his head.

Very interesting. Lumet was such a genius. Having the actors rehearse in a Times Square hotel was a great idea. He just wouldn't have gotten the same vibe doing the rehearsals on an LA studio lot.

The acting in that one scene-THE best scene in moving picture box history in my not so humble opinion. What amazes me, well, one of many things, so-What most amazes me about this scene is that every time I watch it, I sit here flabbergasted, completely mirroring the expressions that Beale's face and body language emote vicariously through my face and body language, 100% goddamned hypnotized by Ned Beatty. It's like I am represented on screen as that character, and that character is just me watching that character. There's some kind of infinite regress and/or irreducable complexity at play...that makes sense, right?

@franki1990

10 ай бұрын

It does for me.

Thoroughly enjoying your work on breaking down films. Intelligent stuff.

Every bit of this was magnificent. Thank you!

Awesome analysis as always. Can't wait for part 2!

Awesome breakdown of one of my all time fav films. I liked your choice in background music too. Well researched and very informative Bro. Much appreciated. Peace.

damn William Holden looked about 100 years old in this film..booze is a killer.

CinemaTyler: Thanks for uploading this! It's very enjoyable, and it's so worthy a film as well. It's been in my top 5 favorite films for decades. 12 Angry Men, Failsafe, Network...all Lumet's direction.

great video! I love how you get into directors interacting with actors

This is a well researched video man great job!

Fantastic commentary. Thank you.

I absolutely connected with the final scene you show. It was deeply powerful to know the setup of it. Great video overall

One of the things I love about this channel, aside from impressive footage and insight, is that your subjects are some of the seminal films of the 70s. Subscribed! :)

Dude, you have no idea how useful these videos are. This is awsome

Great movie! Great to see a glimpse of how things came together behind the scenes. Nice video.

Love your research on this. Bravo. This movie inspires so much.

I was not aware of this movie. Thank you so much for doing this video!

This is one of the most influential and impactful movies of all time. As great as it was, Ned Beatty's speech put it way, way over the top, and took what was a very good movie and turned it into a masterpiece. It's a strangely awkward movie, pushing and propelling ahead with the twisted logic of a fever dream, yet is all the more compelling for that. All that energy, all that insight, all of those gut-wrenching moments chaotically crafted together, all resolving to an ending that is so utterly futile, so desperately empty, and yet somehow all so right at the same time. One of the greatest movies of all time, IMHO.

Another absolutely brilliant video! Thank you for your always insightful analysis!

This is great, thanks for reminding me how great this film is. Looking forward to part 2.

Fantastic breakdown! I've not seen Network since it came out, my folks took me! Amazing film!

This is amazing. Thank you for this. I used this film many a time in college for various papers. So good.

Fantastic. Dude, you’re an artist. ❤️❤️❤️I got chills at the end.

Great vid! Bring on part two.

Great vid. Can't wait for part II.

That's really good advice about staying clear of the actors eye-line. I'm going to make sure I'm always aware of that on-set from now on no matter what we're shooting.

Incredible film and performances. Thank you!

Loving this channel, bro - good shit, right here 👍

Discipline and preparation grants an actor (or any artist) confidence, freedom and, as you mentioned, spontaneity.

I can't thank you enough for putting this together. I'd just finished a rewatching of Network, mainly to expose a younger friend to it for the first time, following a mournful conversation about the state of the media today. He loved it, of course : ) I had remembered it as an absolute classic, but rewatching some ten years later it still surpassed every memory. But the chance to get some insight into just why some of Lumets scenes hit me so strongly _(such as Dunaways magnificent moment of fleeting vulnerability; inarguably among the best in movie history)_ is fantastic and only makes me love this movie more. How did these titles never make it into the Criterion Collection?!?!? Anyway, I'll be screening _'Cinema Paradiso', 'Dog Day Afternoon'_ and _'Ladri di biciclette'_ over the weekend ... and you're all welcome : )

Great script. Great actors.

The acting performances in this film are legendary.

Really insightful and very interesting

@CinemaTyler. Thank you, bless you, and your observations are spot on. A great show! We miss Dad -- and the great American movies made between 1972 and 1976 -- every day.

As a writer, I think Chayefski insisting on final cut really shows how much he valued his own craft, and the core ideas that he's put forth in every work. By requiring that final cut clause, he cemented that as a necessity, indicating that he could sit back and say "yes, this is exactly what I intended." Given that it's said that he saw the craft of writing as "work," it only makes sense that he would want to see that effort represented accurately.

@franki1990

10 ай бұрын

If most movies and scripts were treated this way I'd be more keen to trust movie producers.

@l4ndst4nder

8 ай бұрын

This is a very unique situation where the writer is experienced enough to be able to fully visualize the end product from the script. Considering how much control he had over the actors and editing, I’d argue he performed as a supporting or even co-director for the film. Generally though, directors should have the final cut. Not writers and definitely not producers/studio which has unfortunately become the norm.

great as always !!!!!

Excellent video. One of the best film essays I've seen on KZread, and for a fascinating film too. Subscribed and will Patreon. Cheers!

@CinemaTyler

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

I bought it on DVD 20 years ago. It's one sick movie. Truly a masterpiece.

watching and learning one of my all time favorite Movies. Thank you

Amazing videos man, keep em coming :)

this movie became true reality

brilliant analysis.

It’s a superior film! Your insights here on acting performances I found very meaningful, true and worth preserving. We have generations who now depend on movies from the great era to see where the bar has been set as they have a precious few to none now

Good job on one of my favorites.

What a movie! It could not be made today. Peter Finch richly deserved that postimous Oscar he did not receive in person for. As much as Heath Ledger deserved his Oscar for his portrail as the Joker in Batman. May both of you R.I.P.😔

Wow, excellent analysis and review. Very impressed. I've also never come across anyone who recognize Dog Day Afternoon as a masterpiece. I 'll check out your channel and hope to see Dr. Strangelove, Patton, The Shining, and Caddyshack lol on there.

This needs to be seen today. Some incredible speeches from the brilliant actor Peter Finch. Network is just brilliant. Sidney Lumet is a great director and the writer of the script Chayefski managed to get his script uncut in the final edition of this great film. Been posting the "mad as hell " speech all year. 😃👍

How has this only been viewed 4000 times? Excellent job.

Amazing content!

Dunaway’s character is easier to understand if you worked in corporate business in those days. Look at ads for Charlie perfume from then.

Excellent revue, CT. This is possibly my most favourite film of all time.

@CinemaTyler

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Part 2 coming soon!

Something fascinating to me from a perspective as an avid theatre person: Lumet's method is the only way I can make sense of the artistic process. The rehearsals, the blocking, the lighting as you describe it; it's the only way I've ever experienced it, and I've been at it a while. It's insane to me to think film can be that spontaneous or moment-to-moment, comparatively. But it's incredible that what Lumet described is, effectively, just the preparation process of theatre.

This is now one of my absolute favorite channels!!!

Damn man. Way to get yourself a new subscriber.

Whenever I watch one of your videos I instantly become a better filmmaker and I can't be thankful enough

I just can't imagine anyone other than Peter Finch doing the "mad as hell" scene, and "I'm mad as hell" just doesn't hit *as well as "I'm as mad as hell" kinda like the "*as" I just added lol

I just watched your video on NETWORK (even though it came out 3 years ago) and I must say I really enjoyed it. I can give you an interesting angle on the movie as I was a paid extra. I was in the audience of The Howard Beale Show". All the TV show elements (interior) were filmed in Canada at CFTO studios in Toronto. Those scenes lasted maybe 7 or 8 minutes on screen but for us that was 3 days of filming. We had to say the "I'm as mad as hell" part about 30 times. I even got to talk to Peter Finch during a lunch break. He was a very nice person. I was really a nobody and he was a fairly big star and he talked to me like we were equals. Sidney Lumet was a very high energy director. Even standing still he seemed to vibrate. Instead of saying, "action" to start a scene he would always say "woof". All those scenes were shot in a real, working TV studio and Lumet (who started his career in TV) loved it. Especially spending time in the control room. Paddy Chayefsky would normally stand next to the camera and I really wanted to meet him as he and Rod Serling were two of the giants of television writing. I'll never forget the first day of filming before anything else, each of the paid extras had to meet with two studio lawyers (that were flown up from LA) and we each had to sign a two page contract with MGM Studios. The lawyers would highlight some of the paragraphs so that we fully understood what we were signing. The last paragraph really sticks out as it said, "MGM Studios, its parent company, affiliated companies has the right to your voice, image, likeness, and about 10 other things that covered your looks and the last sentence, "until the end of all time". Before the movie was released we got to see a sneak peek of the film. I remember my first impression was I really liked it, the acting was exceptional, but it really seemed like a fantasy to me. So unreal and nothing like TV of the day. As several people in the comments have mentioned since that time reality has far out paced the movie. There are so many great lines from the movie, but one I would like to have carved in stone is: "I'm a human being, goddammit! My life has value!" Over the years that line has echoed in my mind several times.

Knew this was a must watch, now I start to understand why this is a must watch.

Excellent material. Love this film and your observation. My one item of feedback : the repetitive call-center on-hold music is distracting.

great video; good research