While it's true that Sokka says some sexist things, he gets proven wrong later. Isn't that a good message for kids to learn?

@NikosM112

6 ай бұрын

Well the average woman irl is a lot weaker than the average man (especially in terms of martial arts fighters). I guess nature is sexist too...

@kominbunsri2278

6 ай бұрын

Directors in this decade didn't like kids have critical thinking.

@zibberup

6 ай бұрын

I bet they're thinking if they didn't bring up sexism and how wrong it is, people would never make that mistake because they wouldn't know it exists! 😀

@ClonserHalphalive

6 ай бұрын

​@@kominbunsri2278more like they hope to prevent critical thinking, even amongst themselves

@Angeltozooted

6 ай бұрын

Yeah but if they didint see that episode shi I already know they will never be able to make avatar the same as it used to be

"Avatar is sexist!" :Blind earthbender who made revolutions in her own style. :Waterbender who became one of the best, if not THE best waterbender. :Sequel series' protagonist is a female avatar. :Group of very powerful female fighters. What is netflix even yapping about anymore.

@Mystery668

6 ай бұрын

Don't forget about Azula

@toolazytorenamemyself

6 ай бұрын

Well, makes sense why the original creators left. Apparently the people down at Netflix were too damn sensitive to keep in normal elements of the show, though everyone in this videos comment section already spelled that out so I don't think I need to say what those are. Oh, and APPARENTLY I saw somewhere that they were trying to "appease the game of throne fans" but I don't know how real that was but if they're saying that for avatar the last airbender then yeah this show is going to be pretty bad.

@talkingweevil3172

6 ай бұрын

Can everyone chill the show isn’t even out and the show confirmed after everyone overreacted that they aren’t removing it they are just directing it differently.

@toolazytorenamemyself

6 ай бұрын

@@talkingweevil3172 Fair enough. I will wait and judge when the show comes out even if my faith in it is low. After all if the one piece live adaptation turned out good then maybe this'll be good too, even though the only reason the one piece adaptation turned out the way it did was cause of oda. Let's see if this show can break the Netflix curse.

@talkingweevil3172

6 ай бұрын

@@toolazytorenamemyself I have hope it’s good. It definitely won’t be as good as the original but that’s inevitable.

that was sokkas character arc, the show portrayed sokkas sexism as a negative thing and it fits his character, its caused by him being the only male left in his village, and he has to live up to those expectations and be a man you know. he grows out of that in like the first few episodes. thats the point that its bad. edit: oh you just said that I hadnt watched it

@redflame300

6 ай бұрын

Lol

@Flesh_Wizard

6 ай бұрын

sokka deez nutz lmfao

@sianais

6 ай бұрын

Imagine how insane it is that a kids show had to be censored to not offend adults. Kids are mature enough to understand a person who has negative character traits can change, but adults can't read between those boldly printed lines and must be treated like literal babies. 😅😅😢 God help us.

@Arcany

6 ай бұрын

this is like cutting out someones arc of becoming less annoying because they were annoying like i don't get the point

@weidie2moro

6 ай бұрын

Preach

To the people making Avatar, please don't change a thing/change it back. Avatar was already a progressive show that spoke out against sexism.

@crazygamer_1082

6 ай бұрын

It’s too late now 😂 They already made the damn thing

@Fang1st

6 ай бұрын

To be fair, I DO want there to be some changes, if they just remake the exact same thing in live action I'm just going to watch the original since the animation is way better than live action, but I also don't want them to just alter characters' personalities and change them into new characters, if that's the case just make a new story with new characters, or put the cast in a new adventure.

@wholethedogsout880

6 ай бұрын

exactly!@@Fang1st

@magnus1249

6 ай бұрын

sure but they have to be good or at the least intresting and not just making it a worse version of the original with less intresting themes and characters@@Fang1st

@SufferDYT

6 ай бұрын

Not being sexist isn't progressive lol

They canceling everything 💀

@ZxGod2

6 ай бұрын

@@Anonymous-wb3nz I am not even gonna say it

@itsZombieMan

6 ай бұрын

Sokka’s “sexism was just part of his character he was the only guy in the village so naturally he felt he had a “man’s responsibility” which I’m pretty sure is what the writers were going for.

@Anonymous-wb3nz

6 ай бұрын

@@ZxGod2 ghetto 🗑️....

@weidie2moro

6 ай бұрын

@@Anonymous-wb3nz lol

@THAT1ZELDAFAN

6 ай бұрын

I was looking forward to this show because the creators were a part of it. Now, well, it looks like it isn't going to be worth my time. Congratulations Netflix for screwing it up worse than M Night Shyamalan. I didn't know it was possible, but you found a way.

So, basically, let’s say a villain is a douchebag. Writers write out his evilness because being evil is bad. Why is there a villain in the first place????

@Fatih_M177

6 ай бұрын

"No one's is truly evil, everyone is just misunderstood and all they need is a friend" -Woke Hollywood Executives and Writers.

@Name..........

6 ай бұрын

​@Fatih_M177 I mean if you actually watched avatar then youd know they portray humans, and humainty. People arent evil, or black and white and thats a part of the fucking series.

@jumpy2783

6 ай бұрын

​@@Fatih_M177 Kim Jong-un and Dennis Rodman are homies, he's still a villain

@Fatih_M177

6 ай бұрын

@@Name.......... oh i know that, I was more so making a joke!

@greenlightstudios3816

6 ай бұрын

Decades from now, I feel this is going to be a reality.

I'm suddenly very worried that Netflix might change the story and have Zuko join the team avatar at Ba Sing Se! If they think certain parts of the show are 'iffy', what if Zuko's decision is 'Iffy' to them!? THEY BETTER NOT RUIN ZUKO'S REDEMPTION ARK!!!

@satansbarman

6 ай бұрын

But apparently showing the genocide of the airbenders isn't 'iffy', make it make sense 🤔

@starchildofthesun

6 ай бұрын

@@satansbarman exactly!? How is minor s-xism (WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO SAID CHARACTER'S ARK) iffy, but not a mass genoc-de?!

@WimiBussard

6 ай бұрын

just spell it out. jfc

@bagoheado9065

6 ай бұрын

oooh, haven't you heard, they apparently give the burning of kyoshi island to general zhao when in original it was zuko who did that. but ya know, him being a villain and doing evil deeds is a tad too iffy!

@starchildofthesun

6 ай бұрын

@@bagoheado9065 oh my god... I didn't even realize that might have been why Zhao was the one on Kyoshi!?

Did they miss the part where katara literally calls him sexist. Sucks the are undermining his character growth cause his actor sounds just like his voice actor

@leegaul2161

6 ай бұрын

How would they? They ran the creators off, and Netflix showrunners NEVER research the source material, because they believe it's their right to retcon it. Did we learn nothing from Henry Cavil or Jenna Ortega, or even Oda?

@nobodythenobody9779

6 ай бұрын

Did they miss reality ? Women aren’t fighters, this bull crap only works in cartoons and marvel movies

@notanexploreranimations1218

6 ай бұрын

@@nobodythenobody9779 oh thats not

@EmpyricReporter

6 ай бұрын

@@nobodythenobody9779 ☝🤓 omg look at me im so skibidi smegma and eight years old

@nobodythenobody9779

6 ай бұрын

@@EmpyricReporter sorry to tell you kid, cartoons aren’t real life, historically it’s just a fact men went to war, not women accept for very rare cases

The original avatar is a perfect show and there are no valid criticisms for it.

@itsZombieMan

6 ай бұрын

It’s the greatest American cartoon of all time and the writers are absolute legends.

@voxorox

6 ай бұрын

I see the Unreasonable Purists have entered the chat.

@ClonserHalphalive

6 ай бұрын

My criticism: Iroh wasn't in it enough. Yes, he was certainly a huge character to the show as a side character. But I wish we had more.

@miiko7859

6 ай бұрын

@voxorox Your bait is just cope. Its okay to realise the show will be woke.

@lobotomite9767

6 ай бұрын

@@miiko7859 I think you don't understand my comment. Read it again. I'm saying the original show was fantastic. The new show will suck. Live action adaptations suck and should not be made. The original is perfect and the new version will not surpass it in quality so what's the point?

coming up on my 10th annual atla rewatch. as a woman, you're entirely right. my theory is that netflix is scared of potential "controversies" or lack of viewership due to that 4 minutes of sokka's slightly sexist dialogue. however, if theyre staying true to the story, atla's massive fanbase wouldn't give 2 shits and would watch regardless because ITS IN THE ORIGINAL SERIES. thank you for coming to my ted talk.

@domdaughery25

6 ай бұрын

They are not getting rid of the sexism, they just reduced it because it was really over-the-top in the cartoon

@ravenstales6457

6 ай бұрын

I feel like netflix is gonna be outright flipping every character on their head; the next "logical" (by their terms)step is to flip the roles of Aang and Katara, making him a side character and her the typical "strong woman", next theyll strip toph of all her blind jokes because they're "offensive" then take away her conversation with Iroh (he's next) and make her just a hotheaded loner. zuko will be made into even more of a bad guy (because feminism) and iroh will be a joke, because they dont wanna hear his wisdom.

@Fang1st

6 ай бұрын

I mean, Netflix has 'Cuties' on their site, are they really that worried about Sokka being sexist for a couple episodes? lol.

@domdaughery25

6 ай бұрын

@@Fang1st people are misinterpreting the reasons that they are reducing the sexism, they’re automatically assuming it’s about being woke but it’s not

@jonathanalexis6792

6 ай бұрын

@@domdaughery25 it is

I'm glad I grew up during the early 2000s back when producers weren't afraid to get real and take risks instead of the pussies we have for writers these days.

@marcdimartino9118

6 ай бұрын

Amen.

@talkingweevil3172

6 ай бұрын

This guy is overreacting tho cause they confirmed that they are not removing it they are just doing it differently

@user-hp4ow9sm7l

6 ай бұрын

Which is still fucking stupid ​@@talkingweevil3172

@assassinunknown6664

6 ай бұрын

@@talkingweevil3172 differently is equal to worse in the live action world

@talkingweevil3172

6 ай бұрын

@@assassinunknown6664 lol it hasn’t come out yet and your just assuming. Also Sokkas sexism is only in three episodes it isn’t his main character arc it isn’t even that important. Does it have a important lesson and it is weird that they would change that and I disagree with their choice. Yes. Does it effect the show greatly or take away crucial points to the character or show and wrecks the show. No.

"You're remaking one of the most beloved shows of all time, why would you change it?" Because these sorts of people think they can do better than the original creators. They enjoy hijacking other people's works so that they can 'fix' or 'improve' them while also destroying/missing the original intent entirely. These people suck.

@axelnilsson5124

6 ай бұрын

Hopefully it’ll be enjoyable in its own way

Often when people remake a well loved show they make the mistake of wanting to show the characters as how we saw them in the end without letting the audience learn how they got there.

Whoever said the original show is sexist obviously never watched it. Sokka learns throughout the show that women are just as capable as him. He even gets humbled by many women who have better skills. Which is the show's way of blatantly handfisting the message that being sexist isnt cool.

@talkingweevil3172

6 ай бұрын

They aren’t removing the sexism they confirmed that they are just redirecting it.

@juliusyankson5096

5 ай бұрын

​@@ShinyShiny_what do you not get about it being for characters development? It help sokka grow and become a better person in the show and shows how cool the girls in the arc were. Why change something that was fine in the first place nobody said anything about him being sexist except his sister and that helps him understand that it wasn't cool.

@juliusyankson5096

5 ай бұрын

@@ShinyShiny_ I suggest that you use your brain for once in you life. Adding those parts teach children that being sexust is not ok. The whole show is about teaching kid how to be better and by kids see a character that they like that was sexist change their ways will again show kids being sexist is not cool. If you would actually think with your head maybe you would get that.

Yup heard about this on Tiktok...no wonder the original creators left the project half way through. This is doomed. They fail to realize thats the entire reason for Sokka's character growth.

@YoBrand15

6 ай бұрын

No its not lmao. Holy crap people will find anything and everything to complain about. This is comical

@thesenate9939

6 ай бұрын

@@YoBrand15 It is though? Have you even watched the original animated series?

@YoBrand15

6 ай бұрын

@thesenate9939 several times. I love it. But I also want the live action to deviate a bit. Otherwise I'd rather just watch the animated show. If they remove all sexism from sokka (i.e. men should be warriors only), I'd say its a valid complaint. But they're not. They're trying to just make him a little more likeable, which is harder in live action than animated. I think this is what people are missing. The only thing I'm concerned with is suki... his sexist attitude was a perfect transition for this. But I think they will still include that only men should be warriors. So it should still work. I just dont think live action needs to be exactly the same. Also, it's just so disrespectful to all the actors and everyone who worked hard on this to decide not to watch it or review bomb it just because if this one little change that people are blowing out of proportion just because of their personal views.

@magicfeliuri2681

6 ай бұрын

That About you @@YoBrand15

@danielhorsburgh874

6 ай бұрын

@@YoBrand15it’s more like a protest on sugar coated and “everything is offensive” storytelling directors. Adults get censorship because these days their less mature than a child. I honestly don’t even know how adults have the right to consent either at this point.

If you want to write your own story write it dont fiddle with a masterpiece

toph is my favorite female character in all of fiction

@BingoscanonWife

6 ай бұрын

Bingo solos lol

@aarons6935

6 ай бұрын

Toph is a legend.

@azizahfirda4994

6 ай бұрын

@@aarons6935 fr

@wolfeloma

6 ай бұрын

Based

@DagmarRokita667

6 ай бұрын

Based x2

Also, the fact that this is all Season 1. He grows within that season, and Pakku takes the sexist role, and then that even gets resolved.

@The_Celestial_Fox

6 ай бұрын

Omg, I forgot about the Northern Tribe's sexist views on teaching women waterbending for combat. If they took out Sokka's sexist views that were only there for like the first 4 episodes before he learns from the Kiyoshi Warriors, they probably took out the North's sexism too, which takes away from Katara's character arc and overcoming that struggle through sheer will and determination for change and even Princess Yue's struggle of her duty as princess vs her true desire to be with Sokka. At this point leave Avatar alone. The movie, the recent game, and now seemingly this show are tarnishing the legacy.

The whole anti-sexism message of the kioshi story arch falls apart if they take away Sokka's character development. By making him not say those things they will actually make the etire message more sexist. How can people be this stupid? They literally cancelled self-improvement.

@ragnablade5397

5 ай бұрын

People overreact. They just said "toned down" not "erasing" the sexism

I do wonder how Katara and Sokka will trigger The Boy in the Iceberg scene in the adaptation. The scene got triggered over Katara going scorched earth at Sokka for his sexist remark towards her after their canoe broke leaving them stranded. Will the iceberg just rise to sea level like “it was meant to be”? That would be lame.

@noa-ix9pe

6 ай бұрын

this made realize sokkas sexism actually saved the world by causing katara to wake up aang, dang edit: I hope everybody knows this is a joke

@axelnilsson5124

6 ай бұрын

@@noa-ix9peyou’re not wrong though this makes Zokkas sexism a plot point that was needed for the pilot only for him to grow from that 2 episodes later

Taking this away also takes away the lesson of how these ideas develop and where they come from. You can't change world views if you don't understand where they come from. Sokka's arc is so masterfully done, it has a logical origin, his flaws chime in only when it's appropriate, and he grows past them in a realistic way. On top of that, this sexism arc ties into his growth as a leader as a good leader is able to place themselves into the position of his followers and knows how to admit when they're wrong. The scene where he bows to Tsuki is the first scene where we really get to see that growth on full display. There is an argument for the air temple coming first with the empathy thing but the scene they're likely scrubbing is the first where both are in full swing. What a god damn disappointment...

@ravenstales6457

6 ай бұрын

sokka is an amazingly well written character, yes he's sexist in the early 2000's kinda way where he underestimates women's capabilities, but he learns humility as a result. this sokka is going to be a joke, worse than the fire nation's propaganda.

they are going to really fuck this up. katara learnt water bending by proving to her master that even though she's a girl she is a great water bender she stood up to sexism and proved him wrong... which is the best message you can give to kids or people. 100% they are going to fuck this up and im really sad about it, I love avatar lol... Hope it turns out to be Awesome!

@talkingweevil3172

6 ай бұрын

Netflix confirmed that the pakku storyline is not being changed and Sokkas sexism isn’t being removed just redirected.

@Adicteknologies

6 ай бұрын

@@talkingweevil3172 ok that sound better, best if they just do it like how it was. but thanks for the good news

My favorite part of sokka and suki is when they say: Sokka:I treated you as a girl when I should’ve treated you a a warrior Suki:I am a warrior but I’m also a girl

the worst part for me its the tweet itself they made it to boast they legit ghought: ''hey this is gonna be so good publicity for the show! we removed sexism! fuck yeah!'' its so dumb they believed this would be a good idea

character development in tv shows makes the show and its characters more relatable and the show more enjoyable. A lot of kids tv shows nowadays don’t add this kind of element in their shows and it pisses me off

It's these kind of seemingly small changes that snowball out of control and ruin a chracter.

This worries me too. If they get rid of this, they'll might remove how the North Water Tribe operates (with gender roles) and how the waterbending teacher refused to teach Katara and even stopped teaching Aang for teaching her.

@talkingweevil3172

6 ай бұрын

They aren’t. Netflix comfirmed that pakkus storyline is the same and Sokkas sexism is not being removed just redirected.

if everything got cancelled, it will not be fun

@BingoscanonWife

6 ай бұрын

Let's cancell the whole internet lol

@weidie2moro

6 ай бұрын

@@BingoscanonWife let's cancel the world

@BFDI.Southpark.Enjoyer

6 ай бұрын

@@weidie2moroLet’s cancel the universe

@ellamartintsova5615

6 ай бұрын

@@BFDI.Southpark.Enjoyerlets cancel reality itself

@oboebuddy15

6 ай бұрын

what's fun about sexism

Important reminder that it is not the fault of the child actors if Avatars turn out bad! Let's not bully children, people! (I've been in fandom long enough to know that this is possible. )

@kieranadamson3224

5 ай бұрын

I genuinely can't decide whether to laugh or sulk at how correct you are. Online fandoms will genuinely bully children because some woke director made a bad decision.

I just don't get it! Why take out the tiny bit of "sexism" that Sokka has (and even ends up learning it's wrong) but they want to show us the brutal genocide of the airbenders?!? It's seriously so so stupid!

@talkingweevil3172

6 ай бұрын

They didn’t remove it! They literally confirmed that it won’t be removed just redirected for live action

Even if Sokka was a sexist, it would make sense given the time period they are in. The guy grew up in a tribe where all the men went off to war and left the women behind, so it makes sense he wouldn't view women as combatants

Never forget the M. Night Shyamalan adaptation. Lol

@BlaZay

6 ай бұрын

Hey, at least Shyamalan's is so hilariously terrible that you might actually have a good time if you go in knowingly. With this one, no matter which way you twist it, a slap across the face is never pleasant.

The crazy thing is in that culture that’s the gender roles! The women do the chores and the men go out hunting and fighting! The men are missing because they went fighting in the show 🤯

Netflix: i remove character's flaw People: thats literally one of his major development? Netflix: uh its to not influence People: its not influence, they used it to prove that its not ok to be sexist and you're just making him more bland by taking one of his personality and everyone has their own flaws too, you're just making it bad

Isn't... the whole point of Sokka thinking girls can't fight based on his own insecurities? Making a hand full of jokes where he says "girls can't fight lol" only to get beaten and to then humbly apologize... is so sweet. He is frankly not even sexist. He is insecure and he translates that through making fun of girls he considers to be easy to pick on. Gosh..

5:46 Please don't give them any ideas bro. We can't lose another episode of that show. RIP Mid Life Crustacean

@thatwintanjeen5743

6 ай бұрын

What happened?

Sokka being sexist is literally part of his character development, and its just playground banter that boils down to "girls stink"

I guess if you have flaws, there's no learning or achieving redemption, you'll be forever evil.

@redfacegames293

6 ай бұрын

by Netflix laws

Ohhhhhhh brother this news STINKS !!

@TopGGGGGGGG

6 ай бұрын

Agreed, isnt that the norm tho now

@DaYapGuy

6 ай бұрын

So I'll have to say this A LOT !!

@naruchancutie1

6 ай бұрын

haha! i heard this comment

@oboebuddy15

6 ай бұрын

it's literally not a big deal.

@DaYapGuy

6 ай бұрын

@@oboebuddy15 True but I don't want unnecessary changes cuz that'll make me ask... WHY ?! Plus, I don't want to get reminded of real life when I'm watching a piece of FANTASY fiction (themes sure but not outright political issues)

The woke bubble is hurting my brain sometimes

@standeredfiber5810

6 ай бұрын

mine to why must we suffer

@nobodythenobody9779

6 ай бұрын

Disney, marvel and mainstream tv-“men are useless and terrible” *no one’s offended* Saka spitting facts-“cancel him 😡”

@slicedtopieces

6 ай бұрын

I want them to trans one of the characters. You know. Just to really stink it up. This show's obviously not going to be better than the original so why not see how low they can go?

@lemmy4990

6 ай бұрын

@@slicedtopiecesyou can’t forget to race swap a character

@c0nicalflask

3 ай бұрын

that ain't even woke the Netflix one somehow feels misogynistic 😭

Someday they'll figure out that forcing everything to be so PC just makes a lot of people push back worse than they ever would have, causing the opposite of what they want.

@lunariannoises4806

6 ай бұрын

As a gay person. I see this happening everyday. Woke cishets being too aggressive and we get the backlash.

@nonaturalbornmalesallowed

6 ай бұрын

@@lunariannoises4806 "Cishet" You sound just as woke as they do by using stupid terms like this. There's no such thing as 'cis' nor 'trans' when it comes to people, stop deeluding yourself.

@lunariannoises4806

6 ай бұрын

@@nonaturalbornmalesallowed I mean that's literally like saying there is no such thing as married or unmarried. It doesn't biologically exist. But nobody goes around crying about how people identify as married lol. You don't have to believe in the validity of gender identity to use words that exist in the English language to refer to the things that the words refer to. Idk what escapes you about the concept of well.. concepts.

@lunariannoises4806

6 ай бұрын

@@nonaturalbornmalesallowed wait wait... so woke doesn't exist either then. My life has been a lie

@Lalalalalalalall4093

5 ай бұрын

​@@nonaturalbornmalesallowedBruh there are categories that people are generalized into. The whole purpose of having nouns is to generalize people on the basis of biological or fictional concepts. That is just how any communication works.

Netflix having no idea what context is as always

At this point, anime has tackled more advanced topics than and recent mainstream show or movie cuz stuff like this keeps on happening and shows have less life lessons

I cant wait to see how theyll tell Kyoshis story. That avatar was built on stopping rampant sexism in her time. Is she just gonna be the perfect female avatar in the show? Ffs

Honestly, if Netflix goes through with this, the show will end up worse than the theater show that Aang and his friends went to see when they were in the fire nation. 😂

@talkingweevil3172

6 ай бұрын

The show is already done 😂 Netflix literally confirmed that sokkas sexism is nit removed just changed cause everyone had a break down.

And I looked and beheld as the bottomless pit opened and an army of monsters overtook the earth and they had a queen over them whose name is Netflix The Destroyer

I gotta say it. Fck netflix.

@BingoscanonWife

6 ай бұрын

I cancelled my Netflix subcribsion lol

@YoBrand15

6 ай бұрын

It's not even Netflix decision. Not sure why people think this.

@Floofie_boi

6 ай бұрын

@YoBrand15 who the hell decided to cancel avatar. I blame Netflix and the people working at Netflix.

@YoBrand15

6 ай бұрын

@Floofie_boi No one canceled avatar. What are you even talking about?

@YoBrand15

6 ай бұрын

@Floofie_boi Go watch blue eye samurai and tell me netlix wants to "cancel" lol. The fact people think this is a big deal is so cringy to me. Theres plenty of "woke" in the world to criticize. Calling this one of them is so stupid to me. Even worse than the actual wokeness. It's just needless complaining.

Netflix will cancel everything that moves

@Floofie_boi

6 ай бұрын

Netflix will green light literally everything and then as soon as he realized that it is slightly a bad idea it instantly gets the red light.

@BingoscanonWife

6 ай бұрын

*Netflix on it's way to cancel every good show in existence and replace it with the most boring ones*

@Floofie_boi

6 ай бұрын

@@BingoscanonWife true that

@weidie2moro

6 ай бұрын

Ye, I will be hosting a party when big mouth ends btw

@lukeferrell5242

6 ай бұрын

Everybody likes to cancel.anything that moves.

always happy when pegasus posts

Netflix: The company that fixes what isn't broken

@oceanslovesaxolotls

5 ай бұрын

So true 😭😭😭

@helo_tonk_here

Ай бұрын

Fixing? More like breaking

My uncle who was the background animater for atl and invader zim .i don't know know how he would feel about this

Who else but netflix

Literally the only change I can think of that has any potential to improve the show is to change the Deus ex ending. Because the turtle giving aang spirit bending was the only really dumb choice IMO

@talkingweevil3172

6 ай бұрын

Wdym the lion turtle is an amazing moment??!!

@TrixyTrixter

6 ай бұрын

@@talkingweevil3172 no. no. Its the one bad decision to have what should be an internal struggle solved by a deus ex machina.

@talkingweevil3172

6 ай бұрын

@@TrixyTrixter oh I see what your saying! Tho I did like the lion turtle I think aang should’ve had way more conflict before the matter.

@TrixyTrixter

6 ай бұрын

@@talkingweevil3172 Yeah, pretty much. I did not like the lion turtle tho because it just solves the problem.

@talkingweevil3172

6 ай бұрын

@@TrixyTrixter ya fair enough I want the lion turtle to still be in it but they could rework the way aang meets it

I agree with almost every take expect the one about the Airbender Genocide, i'm pumped for an actual scene finally of that fight. Sozin leading the way against Gyatso, i'm glad it's starting this way given how important the event was in the timeline but never shown other than a quick glimpse of burning temples for an event so important in the timeline and being mentioned so many times throughout the original show.

Netflix trying not to ruin any type of media (difficulty: impossible)

Bro avater was one of my favroite whhhy:(

@talkingweevil3172

6 ай бұрын

They aren’t changing the original show?!?! Just don’t watch the new one and there is nothing to be upset abt. Netflix comfirmed that Sokkas sexism isn’t being removed just changed after everyone had a fit when they literally said “toned down”

If 8 year old me could understand Sokka's character and why he was "sexist" I'm scared to think how much dumb and sensetive creators think 16-20+ yo are

I remember saying a scene where Iroh confuses a freedom Warrior gender(i dont remember their name, they where going to bah sin se) and then the character corrects him and long shot says "it's okay" and then Warrior says "as long as i believe who i am", did Avatar just made a trans character? Because thats what It seemed like.

I always love Pegasus’ takes on anything, he’s always so real

You can have character flaws... Unless the flaw is being sexist. That one is now illegal. I hope the removed flaws are replaced by something equivalent

I hate that we live in a world where people aren't supposed to feel uncomfortable anymore, or not have their beliefs challenged. Every character we see nowadays, whether its in movies, comics, shows or games has to be perfect from the get go. They need to have things figured out from the start because god forbid if they show some real humanity by having their beliefs challenged and changed as part of their character. We are they way we are partly due to the environment we grow up in and the things we experience. Sokka was left in charge of his whole village, and he felt that meant he needed to be the manliest man he could be. And how could he not? He was a young boy that experienced all the men leaving for battle. He then started traveling the world and saw his beliefs challenged. Which makes him, and his journey, you know... INTERESTING. The Kyoshi warriors episode was so interesting because we saw this happen. We saw how Sokka was forced to change his beliefs because he experienced something that was out of line of his own preconceived notion of the world. One of my favourite lines in that episode was when Sokka and Suki said goodbye and Suki told Sokka "I am a warrior, but I'm also a girl". Before giving him smooch. It taught Sokka that things aren't always as clear cut and easily defined as they might seem to be. That girls can be badass AND feminine. Again INTERESTING characters dealing with UNCOMFORTABLE situations making their story more INTERESTING. THAT'S LITERALLY ALL WE'RE ASKING NETFLIX. MAKE, SHIT, INTERESTING.

"how the original Sokka (prior to his character journey) would..." So he wasn't after his journey? wow its almost as if that was the point.

This reminds me of how people accuse Charlie Brown of being racist because they had the black kid sitting in a chair across from all the white kids in the thanksgiving special, despite the fact that the black kid was specifically added _because_ it was the creator's way of fighting back against racism... Sokka learning to not be sexist is LITERALLY THE POINT. Its so annoying that they missed this... Its like making a movie where the moral is to not be sexist, but removing all the examples of sexism because its "sexist" despite the fact that its literally speaking _against_ it. Doing so just removes ALL the impact of the message!

Do they never learn? LOL And act surprised when the show fails

Look, I don't agree with the Netflix change to remove or reduce Sokka's sexism, as it plays a vital role in his development. But claiming that Netflix is ruining everything, or even the show, because of a small change like this, is ridiculous.

@talkingweevil3172

6 ай бұрын

I agree with you however I disagree that it is a “vital role” cause it is only in three episodes.

@ragnablade5397

5 ай бұрын

The fact Zuko will ask himself for an agnikai against his dad must be a part of it too

Ive always seen avatars throughline is about change. Every character has a defining flaw that drags them down on different levels. Like katara's inability to forgive or move on or toph thinking she can do anything. If theyre getting rid of these flaws, they might as well remove iroh from zuko

Edward and Alphonse Elric: Thought toying with human life was acceptable , found out the hard way it wasn't and always relied on alchemy to solve everything. But towards the end, they realise that not everything is about equivalent exchange. Marc Spector and Steven Grant (MCU) : Steven Never trusted Marc because he kept killing everyone (It was actually Jake but he doesn't know that). Marc and Steven always were fighting for control over their body, and only towards the end they allow each other to use it and only then does Marc embrace his other half (or rather other third but he doesn't know that) Yugi and Atem: Like Steven Grant, Yugi didn't trust Atem with his body when he realised how far Atem was willing to go to win a duel. And like Steven and Marc, they use the fact that they are actually two minds in one body to their advantage to defeat their enemy, in this case, Pegasus (Not youtuber pegasus, duelist kingdom pegasus). literaly every iteration of Spider-Man: Classic Example of how just because you have powers, doesn't mean you don't have to be responsible. These are all flaws that characters had to overcome, and over coming that is what makes them special. Unlike SheHulk: Perfect from the get go

Updated for the *MODERN AUDIENCES!*

@satansbarman

6 ай бұрын

You misspelled WOKE SNOWFLAKES

@irdc

6 ай бұрын

​@satansbarman ironic how yall r calling other people snowflakes while ur malding over a netflix show

@VulpinetideCuteTimes0w0

6 ай бұрын

@@irdc You’re just another uncultured swine that doesn’t value the art of story telling and animation.

@Lunk42

6 ай бұрын

​@@irdcYes because it's the fault of people like you that are perpetually offended by everything that this is happening in the first place. You're so offended that you can't handle even the topic of sexism being brought up for the sole purpose of showing how bad it is.

@satansbarman

6 ай бұрын

@@Lunk42 reeeee let's cancel @irdc they're offending me by using obscure slang incorrectly 🤣

I seriously cant believe how bad this video is lol. And how dumb people are for eating it up.

@HauteMashups

6 ай бұрын

Literally 😂

I can't believe Bryan Konietzko and Michael Dante DiMartino exited this project due to "creative differences"... That is really not a good sign. 😢😭 Bloody Netflix.

IF YOU CANT HAVE ANY MAIN CHARACTERS HAVE FLAWS IN SCENE ONE, HOW IS THERE ANY ROOM FOR THEM TO GROW GOING FORWARD. THERE IS NO WARRIORS JOURNEY IF THE MC IS ALREADY PERFECT

The first live action avatar film was sooo bad i hope this one gets better and fits to the original

Sokka is now a sidekick whit no habilities. Katara will be the main character. Tonk would be lesbian(for sure) and Aang would be trans??? Non binarie? Intersex??? Who knows...

i have a theory that when netflix makes live action versions of shows they dont even watch the original show fully and just watch a few episodes dont research the lore or plot at all and do whatever they want with it

Never knew Disney was making this live action series.

I thought cancel culture was dying clearly not enough

JFC the toxicity is starting to bleed over from Twitter to YT. The change doesn't ruin a damn thing. Ultimately, that element is a TINY part of Sokka's development, and it's a piece that could easily be traded out for something like basic arrogance, leaving the learning moments on Kyoshi Island completely intact.

@YoBrand15

6 ай бұрын

THANK YOU. Finally someone with common sense lol. This is ridiculous. He is just complaining to complain.

@Predation_records

6 ай бұрын

No

@talkingweevil3172

6 ай бұрын

I know right people are saying they won’t watch it cause of this. Netflix even confirmed that they are keeping Pakkus story the same and not removing Sokkas sexism just changing it.

literally ecstatic you're covering this topic

Back when the series was announced everyone said "They cant wait". But all i could think of was how star wars was ruined, marvel was ruined, DC was ruined, Halo was ruined, Disney movies were ruined and despite all the signs of this being a bad tv show people will only now start seeing what they should have known then.

It's not that deep. We won't lose anything by removing one Sokka's "sexist" sentence per episode

@a11tcool

6 ай бұрын

Thank you

@HauteMashups

6 ай бұрын

Literally this. 👏🏼

@grappling.enthusiast

6 ай бұрын

idk bout that. we see his character change throughout season 1, and honestly him getting over the sexism was pretty cool.

yall are definitely blowing this out of proportion. i am a long time fan of the series and i think yall are overreacting. when the show came out, sexism was much more of a problem than it is now. sexism is now frowned upon instead of being okay. keeping this as a character arc will be outdated and a little obvious. “dont be sexist” is a message that needed to be conveyed back then, but not as much now. i think that sokka’s new arc could build on more modern problems, which would be more relevant and relatable. the show has already made lots of confirmed good changes, so i think this small change to his character arc that lasted few episodes wont change much, and is for the better.

@flaeime

6 ай бұрын

especially considering new audiences as just an outdated, useless message.

@flaeime

6 ай бұрын

like how did this small change get to drama channels like its not that serious-

@flaeime

6 ай бұрын

just checked, the arc is literally 4 episodes.

@real_dirty_dan

6 ай бұрын

@@flaeimefr lmaoo

@flaeime

6 ай бұрын

and btw they did confirm they’re replacing the arc, not getting rid of his arc in the beginning.

Just like a favourite character of mine from a video game that says "What is better to be born good or to overcome your evil nature through great effort."

Hot take, them removing Sokka's sexism is actually because netflix doesn't want to condemn sexism as the don't want to seem like they're "taking a side" or something. No matter it's all corporate bs, but it seems like a company desperate to be innoffensive would also not want to offend mysoginists

While I absolutely disagree with this change to Sokka, I don't see anything wrong with the show taking some creative liberties here and there.

7:30 Being honest, I like the fact that they’re gonna add the air nomads vs firebenders battle, so at least that’s one positive the live action can have over the show(I wanna see more airbenders lIVE)

My main critic is that the series is to fast pace, and the development besides very little doenst fell earned

live action Netflix just makes me want to hide in a cave forever. Like why do they ruin everything. one piece avatar now a SECOND time Pinocio and snow white plus everything else.

Changing things is not always bad. But if you change something because it feels problematic and not because you have something better or as good in mind, it will probably be worse

THEY TOOK FIVE STEPS FORWARD; AND A LEAP BACKWARDS WITH THIS ONE. Part of Sokka’s character development is to look down on what he doesn’t understand, to acceptance and change. This goes beyond his sexist mentality. He went from calling Katara’s bending “magic water” to not only relying on it for his plans, but feeling inferior to it, which led him to training in swordsmanship. His scientist mindset caused him to look down on a village that relied on fortunetelling to; him giving up and excepting that he can’t change the minds of their personal beliefs. And back to being a sexist… Sokka is the epitome of what people call toxic masculinity these days. It comes from being left behind (due to not being a man) by the warriors and father. Also having the responsibility of being the only warrior in his tribe. He was not only humbled by Suki in sparing; but humbled enough to ask her to train under her (learning a traditional female driven martial arts). He also acknowledged that his ways were wrong, and that his perceptions had changed. I am so sick and tired of this woke BS. The people that they are trying to please are the minority. They dont even care anymore. I can’t even purchase a cup of coffee without it being an ethical decision.

@YoBrand15

6 ай бұрын

Maybe we are just complaining about everything for no reason?

@evanalmighty5554

6 ай бұрын

@@YoBrand15 I disagree. A lot of us have been waiting for this for over a decade, and they’re altering a character that we love for the sake of being woke. It looks like a good show, so I will happily watch it. But overall, it’s a little disappointing.

@YoBrand15

6 ай бұрын

@evanalmighty5554 I just can't stand how much people throw the word woke around. There is plenty of wokeness to criticize. I 100% agree with that. But this isn't one of them. I respect your opinion but it makes me cringe. The way I see it is this was a very small part of sokka, and something I didn't like about the original. It seems like they are toning it down, not removing it. So I think he will still have the view that only men will be warriors. But in the animated series he was over the top woth it. Even in the water tribe women are respected as healers. But sokka had some lines that were just overall pessimistic about women in general, not just as a warrior. I think this is what they are removing. Things play out differently in live action. You can't make the character as animated and quirky and funny in a live action. So if they keep everything it will just make him look like a dick, and they won't have as much time to get him about of it and develop all parts of his character. I just think people need to stop hoping a live action is IDENTICAL to the original. Why should we want that? I'd rather just watch the original if that's the case. We should embrace some amount of change. The only issue I see about this change is how he meets and bonds with suki. His sexism was a perfect transition to that. I think they will keep just enough of it to get around this though.

@evanalmighty5554

6 ай бұрын

@@YoBrand15 I understand where you’re coming from. I don’t expect a live action to be 100% or as animated as a cartoon/anime. I always embrace changes in certain areas. Hell, I’m one of the few who actually enjoyed cowboy bebop (despite certain things in the show😂). I agree with you was a small part of his character in the beginning of the show, but it plays a big role in the bigger picture of his character. Sorry, I made you cringe with the word woke. What is the best way to summarize actions like this. The last several years as a consumer it feels like it’s being spoonfed to me at this point. Kind of like my mom sneaking vegetables on my plate. I’ll definitely consider your point of toning down rather than washing away.

@YoBrand15

6 ай бұрын

@evanalmighty5554 so I think the word woke is generally fine. Because there is a lot in the world I feel that are being forced on us to believe (some or which I agree with, some or which i don't. But everyone should be able to choose what they believe). I just think it gets thrown around too much. I don't see this change as a way to soften kids from seeing sexism (you can see it in the animated already, which is more accessible for kids because its animated, so there's no point right?) It's just a creative decision since things do look and feel different on live action. It's easier to get around certain aspects of a character when its animated. I really think they just want to make sokka slightly more likeable. I loved the show and every character. But honestly sokka was the most annoying until his final stages of character growth. So im fine with them toning him down. In fact I didn't even care about this aspect of his growth lol

3:55 that contrast from dark to light flashbanged the fuck out of me

that lawdy lewed jumpscare tho

I agree changing Sokka’s character arch to not have him learning that his sexism was wrong will just hurt the character and the show. However I disagree with him saying them presenting the show differently is bad because if they didn’t make any changes and show new things why even remake it why not just go watch the original show.

The whole point of the sexism In Avatar is to learn to not to be sexist. idk why anyone thinks that’s a problem and have to remove it

@talkingweevil3172

6 ай бұрын

They didn’t remove it why does everyone think that!!!! Netflix literally confirmed that they are just redirecting it after everyone overreacted

i also think it helps with his character growth related to bending and how he downgrades himself on not having it, leading to the meteorite sword episode

Sokka's sexism is the point. It's shown from the beginning to be a negative quality about him. He gets shown the error in his ways as soon as episode 4.

All the MEN in the village left for war so OF COURSE he thought only men should be fighters but he learns and GROWS

This reminds me of what they are doing with the borderlands movie. I was excited about it's initial announcement, but now that the story and trailer has been released, I'm slightly disappointed.

Loads of good books where the live-action movies barely have anything to do with the books. It's almost like Hollywood would rather not make good movies.

i swear these remakes always try to portray the characters as how they are in the end without any form of character development these people clearly have zero story writing skills

Netflix not understanding "character development" episode 999999: