How do you rate Need for Speed Payback? It looks and plays better with Unite that's for sure! Thumbnail artwork by IgI24PL# 7071

@katrinatrigg723

2 жыл бұрын

Hi blackpanth!!!!

@ItsYaBoiiiDB

2 жыл бұрын

Yerrrr

@ghst_ill7884

2 жыл бұрын

payback was my 2nd nfs, it was incredibly fun, once i got heat, i haven’t played it since 9/10 cuz of the police chases only in events

@painexe81

2 жыл бұрын

5/10 The stupid handling the sound of the cars I say NFS 2015 is better lol

@rpst7800

2 жыл бұрын

0.01/10

I been saying this and people called me crazy. This game was fun even thought it had bad physics and the bad upgrade system l. The campaign was enjoyable more than nfs heat for me. The map was also pretty good. I prefer the city in payback more than nfs heat but nfs heat had more tall buildings which i liked. the roads in nfs heat also felt weird. The way they were set up felt unrealistic.

@liamsaucedo44

2 жыл бұрын

I loved Payback, the inclusion of muscle cars, the idea of crews, and my favorite map in NFS. It was massive and off roading was awesome

@kami_dred7319

2 жыл бұрын

@@liamsaucedo44 yeah I forgot to mention the music. They playlist was better though heat did have some good rap songs. Almost everything else kinda felt outta place.

@verde629

2 жыл бұрын

NFS heat is weird. It’s like high quality and crappy at the same time lol

@sawsinit544

2 жыл бұрын

Payback was good all it needed was an online free roam and then heat had no speedlists

@kami_dred7319

2 жыл бұрын

@@verde629 it’s because they added so many trash special effects and weird colors to make the game look arcade-ish and intense. If you download nfs heat unite it takes it away and makes the game look better. They also need more hd reflections and better looking environments. ray tracing would do the game wonders.

Theo: wanting to show Payback is underrated. Also Theo: Makes video of modded Payback instead of a video of unmodded Payback.

@Austin-cr5zo

Жыл бұрын

Because it’s not good. It’s below average. Or just about average

@alvinhor5482

Жыл бұрын

He is implying that the original version is pure shit

@igotnoodlesgold9193

Жыл бұрын

yeah doesn't make sense :/

Here’s the issue I had with the payback. They improved on certain things that we wanted, but then removed everything nfs 2015 did well. The atmosphere, the engaging map, even the visuals in some parts and I feel like nfs 2015 captured the need for speed magic that we craved, and no amount of ‘upgrades’ or customisation in payback could fix that for me. The experience was forgettable at best.

@khalilgray6903

2 жыл бұрын

What pissed me off is when they removed the handling slider

@Jallu555

2 жыл бұрын

You can tell how much love went into 2015, when even the main menu is made out of pictures of real car meets

@Edvardas96

2 жыл бұрын

To me 2015 was true Underground 3. Sad the handling/physics ruined it, other than that everything else was awesome

@G.H.O.S.T.F.R.E.A.K

Жыл бұрын

⁠bruh yes why the fuck did they remove the realistic handling tuning slider so you could fine tune your ride. My R32 was beating RSRs on the corners and on the highways. My gun metal Grey r32 with WORK S1Rs was a menace to be reckoned with. That altessa ets system and that AWD made what the R32 was, a monster on the track. That’s why it was banned from group A

1:10 SpeedX is speedcross, that was an expansion they added to the game

Pov : this is what the fast and furious crossroads should have been

@Jinsoku440

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, I actually fully agree with this comment

@adlibbed2138

Жыл бұрын

I don't it's worth it beating up a decaying corpse of a poor excuse of a game

There’s a few things I’d love to see. The “abandoned” car feature where it changed weekly, and where you had to find parts to rebuild a special car. I also liked the way each character had a special driving style, Jess the getaway driver, Mac the drifter and off road per and Tyler as the street racer/ drag racer.

Everything except the upgrade system in this game was good. Definitely underrated.

Its definitely under rated. Despite the performance customisation based on speed cards were very annoying, the game was very exciting. Very good storyline and a fantastic map. I love the payback map more than that of heat and sometimes the graphics too Also i cant unsee the simiarity between the story of this and most wanted 05

payback has had the best drifting ive seen from the newer nfs games by far and i honestly liked how parts worked too you built cars like a rpg with different stats for how u wanna drive

The handling model for all the ghost games ruins the fun for me. Anyone else feel this way? Even if the car list and customization is great if you brake your car and automatically drift it's unrealistic, unfun and ruins the whole experience. Even Undercover is more fun because even though it had bad handling, it wasn't brake to drift. Don't forget that this is a MULTI-BILLION pound company, and despite technology progressing so much since 04/05 (and their resources) they're still putting out crap that is nowhere near as fun as MW 05 or U2.

@Ben-Rogue

2 жыл бұрын

I'm hopeful the next NFS takes some handling cues from Codemasters games.

@sukhdevr3489

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ben-Rogue I haven't played Grid. Is it kind of like Forza handling?

@eotulioo

2 жыл бұрын

@@sukhdevr3489 It would be more like the old NFS games

@meyers0781

2 жыл бұрын

Ghost games NFS felt like a poor Forza ripoff with poor handling and no cockpit for me. At least there are more selection of premade livery in Ghost games NFS

@sukhdevr3489

2 жыл бұрын

@@eotulioo Oh nice.

For me i love payback more than heat since heat felt like a short demo. Map in payback are so much more alive than heat ghost city. Variety of terrain- huge city,forest, canyon, deserves, mountains. Races are varies and fun in payback. No AI racer in heat are making the city dead. In end game everything is balance you can use whatever car performance cause the game balance yours with the AI. Progression in payback are so much better aka you have to races and beat the crew to beat the bosses. Whereas heat boring easy rep grinding to progress. The only way to grind money is during boring day time only Day time race is so boring due to closed race with no pedestrian, and majority of the race are circuit race. Night race is fun but pointless when max rep and unlock ultimate parts True day2night cycle. Soundtrack are huge and better in payback then heat. The only problem payback has is the lootbox style upgrades but no one complain when the crew 2 have this same upgrades mechanic. Love fighting cops in payback due to zero health aka can ram the cops to fight back. Heat only pros are more car selection (obviously since its latest game that use all payback car and bring more new), exhaust tuning and real performance upgrades. In shorts payback>heat I keep coming back to payback to enjoy the map and races

I am still surprised they didn't add Rav's Beetle as *the* unlockable off-road car in Heat, instead of the random FEM Ford we got instead. That and the starter Mustang seemed iconic enough to have been a decent choice there. Then again, this is the same EA that didn't let us unlock the cover car Polestar in Heat at launch 💀

Payback is pretty barebones, if it had better multiplayer and more interesting things to do then it'll be better.

@Jinsoku440

2 жыл бұрын

The vote system was one of the few saving graces of Payback; I utterly despise racing online in Heat

@southamptonfan3460

Жыл бұрын

@@Jinsoku440 nfs and online has never really worked tbh . Single player need for speed is always the best so I am glad they fucked it .

@Jinsoku440

Жыл бұрын

@@southamptonfan3460 there was (is) literally an all online game called "Need For Speed: World" that had quite the dedicated following, so much so that there are private servers still up years after the game is offline, and a version of the game has been running in China for quite a while...

@southamptonfan3460

Жыл бұрын

@@Jinsoku440 yeah but it’s not exactly what need for speed should be is the point

I would love the driving feel of Most Wanted 2005, the drifting feel of pay back and the Drag racing feel of Pro street.

It really is an under-appreciated game. Sometimes I just want to take a break from sim racing and have fun in an arcade game and Payback is the game that does it for me. Simple racing without worrying about and setups besides the basic grinding and upgrading. Going through it the first time was a unique experience that reminded me of when I first played NFS Underground 1 and 2, not to mention the variety in location. Their music tracks are also spot on and suits the situation you are in (garage, cruising and racing). Personally I find this more fun than Heat and 2015.

@femboyyandereking

Жыл бұрын

I luv u

@randomdudeface

Жыл бұрын

Same

@randomdudeface

Жыл бұрын

​@@femboyyandereking same

I love how you upload this video and suddenly everyone loves payback

i like how every body at release of payback called it trash and now its a gem that everybody liked somehow

@Phil_529

Жыл бұрын

Aside from the obnoxious upgrade system and lackluster soundtrack it's a really solid game. I put 40 hours in at launch and enjoyed myself and it's even better years later with a super high end PC. Personally I loved 2015, hated Heat and thought Payback was pretty good. I'm super excited to see how the new Criterion Games handles Unbound. Looks good in the trailers at least.

@kriskater

Жыл бұрын

@@Phil_529 what do you think of Unbound now that its out ?

@Phil_529

Жыл бұрын

@@kriskater Loved it. Put 65 hours into just the single player campaign and wish there was more to do.

@kriskater

Жыл бұрын

@@Phil_529 ohh very cool! I’ll have to grab it on sale. Why didn’t you like heat if you don’t mind me asking ?

I’m still playing this gem. It’s my go to when I need to relax

Carbon was one of the best NFS the customisation the canyon duels was an epic game

@kriskater

Жыл бұрын

I agree. I loved it ALMOST as much as MW05 . Carbon is fantastic

For me the biggest problem with the upgrade system in this game was that you could upgrade nos and brakes only with perks

Story mode was way longer then all the others which I loved!!

I don't think it's a bad game but a buggy one. I loved the "Cross" easter egg in one of the missions. Good video Theo 🔥

Great NFS video Theo!! @5:26 *Theo malding*

It was the first need for speed since MW 2012, to not be only in online-mode most of the time, and that made me play the game until the end. I hated how Rivals and 2015 only were online, meaning that you couldn't pause it or anything or else you'd lose etc. I liked the storyline and variety Payback had. I beat the game in 2018, and it was pretty fun and cool game to play.

I grinded the hell out of Payback and did the buy every car challenge. I do wish it had better visuals though that was a big thing I didn't like I recently got it on PC and also installed Unite as well as some card upgrade and money mods to basically fix the upgrade issues people had with it.

Payback was the first nfs game I ever played, I loved it

Any NFS game that has a Slot machine performance upgrade system doesn't deserve praise

@G4meplayVids

Жыл бұрын

📠

This game is just one of the pinnacle of EA's greed, so no i don't think he deserved more attention

Nfs: Makes a bad game Players: This game deserves more respect! Forza: Literally 1 car sounds inaccurate Players: This is the worst series ever!

@naufalkusumah2192

2 жыл бұрын

Chill bro I understand what you say, Theo is just an NFS fanboy

@slideways8022

2 жыл бұрын

NFS players are in a toxic relationship with EA, and Forza players are the toxic one with PG games

@-Mari.0-

2 жыл бұрын

Theo will bash Forza for anything he’s bias

@101derpness

2 жыл бұрын

It’s because Forza has gotten so popular that it’s become a “group thought” kind of game. One person says something negative about it and then it gets taken to the extreme and now it’s everyone’s option instead people just enjoying things despite the flaws. This happens with a lot of game like WZ and Fortnite as well as Shows/movies, more recently Star Wars

@TyroneBurns

2 жыл бұрын

@@101derpness people enjoy a game despite the flaws? Gosh I miss those days

Still did not deserve more respect than NEED FOR SPEED: HOT PURSUIT 2 for PS2 RELEASED 2002. 20 years ahead of its time my guy.

I just loved the GHOST era, i'm gonna miss it. I don't have too much hope for criterion :c

Honestly, nfs payback is one of the games that started my love for cars. I loved the story, characters, customization, car selection, locations, playability, and everything about it tbh. It will always be one of, if not my most favorite racing games!

@OGbluetooth_

Жыл бұрын

The story was so ass idek how people could like that

@rezzel4425

Жыл бұрын

​@@OGbluetooth_ that's your opinion. Not everyone thinks the same way you do 😂

I would like to see the side bets thing come back. It was a nice addition to the game, in my opinion.

@helopeaplee

2 жыл бұрын

Most sidebets were fun additions to the races and missions, but some were ridiculous lmao or i was just plain bad

@justinterry7853

5 ай бұрын

Lol most if not all the bets they gave me was easy money 😂

Tbh I feel Need For Speed 2015 deserved better.

We need more of this

I remember playing this all the time with my cousin back in the summer of 2019

You have to pay me back if you want me to play this.

I can’t even explain how long I was waiting for a nfs payback video

Oddly enough a friend of mine bought this again for his PS4 recently and I've been playing it. I've actually enjoyed my experience and I think it's a solid game to look back on. Guilty pleasure - the drifting was fun. The storyline was still cheesy though haha

Not really, I did not like the handling, the performance upgrades being a lottery was obnoxious, idk... Not my thing.

I feel like they were trying out a lot of new things w payback and then were just missing something to bring it together. I got this game as a Christmas present and I played it all the way up to the next Christmas. Loved this game💪

5/10 honestly speaking dude i hated this game

yeah I remember then I love it. but I had this weird glitch where I couldn't do the cool missions

I actually recently played Payback and enjoyed it greatly. EA really made bad call with the card system as that put a lot of people (myself included) off from buying the game at launch.

nice to see some different nfs payback content

Id respect it more if would be called NFS: Cashback. But unfortunately, the money ive spent wont come back.

This cool video mister black panthaa

The reason you can’t control the runner car is beca it’s naturally set to heavy. Go to the live tuning and reduce the weight and steering response. The car will be much much easier to control the car.

I’m literally playing this right now and I’m like wow why isn’t no one talking about how amazing this game is the only thing I can complain about is the lack of police chase in cruise mode or races

Just finished the game loved it

Need for speed payback was like: *inside a tunnel.* Flashbang mode. Also, i got a bug once where i drove in a tunnel, it got completely dark, just how it looks like when the power goes out.

I loved the speed cross of this game. So fun

with these time missions, it felt a bit like the run

3:36 Yeah, the cops must have borrowed the rubberbanding algorithm from Exient's _Undercover._

I agree, Payback deserved more respect... from the developers

I dont know why people criticize the card system since the game practically gives you a lot for free if you are connected. And even if you arent, while the amount you obtain is noticeable lower, i still managed to complete the game without too much problems by managing well my money. I like also how cards are winning for the car you use since is like an experience system, similar to an RPG. The physics for turning or drifting could be much better, but compared to Heat or MW2012 is great.

SpeedX is from the Speed Cross DLC

I bought NFS Payback months after it came out in 2017. It was one of my favorite NFS game until NFSU2 on my laptop.

I still love playing the story

I haven't played this NFS yet. Is it still worth playing even though I would play on PlayStation? I've played and completed Heat and other games, I was just put off when I heard about the roulette system.

Been playing this game again

Not gonna lie, What they did to unbound should've been a mix of Payback and Heat. Customization of Heat, with a mix of Heat and Payback storyline where sanctions races that leads up to the tourney your crew is trying to enter; With the unveiling of a heist that happening in the background inolving the House? Or unknown organization that is mention in Heat and plays a role in Payback. Hell maybe even URL, can be a cameo.

Heat may of had cringe but if everyone doesn't admit that 2015 and payback were more cringy then something is wrong

@MEMEFISHBISH

2 жыл бұрын

@PXMPKIN GAMERS(2nd) personally pro streets soundtrack wasn't great but I still like pro street and heat..honestly after carbon I wasn't feeling Nfs soundtracks afterwards

do u have a mod, I only have height and camber for stance tuning and my tuning only has 3 catch up packs

Pants has still yet to try the g63 runner spec house

Man really did forget about Speedcross.

I'm so glad to play that game and got 100% completion in 3 months (forget the achievements)

looking for combat racing 😎but I don't see that here on this video and what would you suggest? with good ratings.

Abandoned cars were the best I really want to see that return

This game was GOOD, the speedcard thing is something to get used to, replay some easy drift events to get more, swap the for points and reroll untill you have the car level u want

theo, there's a new level of difficulty, that's why those missions were so hard to complete!!

agreed

The only thing I didn’t like about payback was the lack of cops and chases during free roam. I was always waiting for one to randomly show up and start chasing me. The bait crates were a nice idea but lacking in choosing your escape route.

One of my favorite newer nfs games

As I continued the story it started to become more like Fast and Furious a little bit but the game isn’t bad

It really didn't. It created a terrible base to build off of for NFS Heat, lowered the standards of online play in arcade racing games (Notice how many games that came out after had missing online components? Yeah.), has barely any replay value, has a lack of direction, very boring handling (2015's was jankier, but Payback kept the B2D many hate while making every car feel extremely easy to drive), some of the most boring story and characters in a racing game, a graphical and presentation downgrade which also carried into NFS Heat (with issues such as no shadows under car wheels, very basic menu style with black & white squares making the game look cheap IMO), and quite honestly to me cursed the franchise. After years of the franchise going in many different directions, 2015 was supposed to be the direction of the series and Payback broke that right afterwards. Regardless of expectations it's quite a bad game. Every time I try to play it again it tends to put me in a worse mood, and doesn't offer much unique compared to NFS 2015 or Heat other than the missions. It's the most disappointing AAA arcade racer I have ever played, and I wasn't hyped for the game. It's also the worst game in the entire Need for Speed series to me, with Undercover and Rivals right afterward. EDIT: I forgot about the cops and upgrade system... I can go on about this game for a long time and forget a whole part or two that contributes to making it so bad.

@sukhdevr3489

2 жыл бұрын

I love the channel but he must be getting sponsored by EA or something because he overates all the Ghost games when they're atrocious.

I made the Pursuit System mod which may have made it last a little longer. And I know you were the first one who played it too.

Front wheel animation during the drift kills the mood for me everytime :( Was is so hard to add countersteer animation ? :(

Recently I started playing. It's pretty good but upgrading your car takes forever even if you have all the tokens you need to upgrade your car. But besides that, the story is way better than heats imo

This was the best need for speed I’ve ever played in general, and I will play this until the next need for speed

you gotta try a cut up server on assetto corsa. shit has been popping off

1 car. A 4th gen Camaro. The only NFS that had it, was High Stakes, in 1999

I finally finished the game about a week ago

Bro i just want a little glimpse of nfs 2022!

Theo, speedx means speedcross like speedcross dlc

Are you gonna cover the hot wheels cars in the new Horizon 5 update?

I remember playing NFS hot pursuit in like 2016/2017, than payback in 2018, than heat in 2019, and ever since 2020 I’ve been playing the crew (2014), I’ve played the crew 2 in early 2021 but it’s not as good as the crew 1.

With unite I hate the way the runner cars handle but you can cheat really easy by just getting 5 of Eddie's skyline and changing the mode to the different race types and I will take out the handling mod for the runner events other than that I will play it as packaged btw using Eddie's skyline for every race will grind you a ton of money until you get to the last stage of events but by then you already have a ton of money

This game was awesome. I dont know why people dislike it

4:13 meme-worthy moment though

I have a thrustmaster steering wheel and I went back to payback and must say the map is better than heat, the police is more aggressive, and the drops went underrated… I also like the fact that you don’t have to switch from night to day

the game is so underrated,its my favorite nfs game and for who hate the handling just try unite mod

Thank you for Chevrolet corvette stingray blackpanthaa decal Asphalt 9!! & congrats you win

I'm gonna contradict everyone and say I really didn't mind the upgrade system too much. Post game when youre trying to get the best perk combos for building the fastest cars for online was a pain in the arse and I wish they had made it more consistent and free to play, but the gambling wheel spin for parts I thought was a really good idea and it fit in so well with the desert gambling high stakes supercar flashy money expensive atmosphere, the story was based on casinos and gambling and the collectibles are poker chips, and I liked that the upgrade system was gambling too it made you feel like a high stakes casino gambler. I do wish there was less randomness in buying parts from the shop; that function is purely used for players to boost their part levels but was hopeless for building the best brand combos the second you got to 399. I do also miss when not every car could progress to 399, it made no change in the online scene because people were still only using 3 cars for racing, and when you had to change your starter car because eventually you got outlevelled it made sense with the style of the game. The rivals were higher stake and has more expensive cars, so it made sense for the player to have to switch their starter car once you got into the later game. Building a golf gti to the same stats as an rsr felt wrong, the player didn't have the sense of heirarchy of needing better cars to compete. Payback did a lot of things very well and brought around a lot of new ideas, different car builds, derelict supercars that were often some of the best choices outside of racing (I do wish some of the derelicts were competitively viable in racing), offroading, grinding for money and parts and seeking the ideal racer build to be the fastest, but it was yet another game ruined by microtransactions, and it made the f2p player feel outgunned by those with the pay to win stuff, and I think speedcross should have been a free dlc rather than a transaction to keep people entertained. The handling models of each car were also quite lacklustre, I get that nfs is an arcade game of course, no one wants a need for speed sim racer, but payback almost felt too arcadey and there was little diffrentiation between the handling of each car, and the top speed stats of the race and offroad were too similar, it would have benefited the game to have different handling models for the different types of cars (muscle heavier but better suited to runner/offroad wehereas jdm suited for drift and european suited to be balanced) and different top speed and acceleration potentials could have increased diversity in the car types too (muscle higher top speed lower acceleration, supercars high speed high acceleation but less drifty, jdm higher acceleration less top speed). I am waiting for a nfs game where there is an even balance between the nfs2015 feel of having tuner cars, and the payback feel of supercars, and different car types should be equally viable I have yet to see a nfs game where muscle cars are genuinely a solid option for the competitive racing.

Do you actually feel that way? I think it’s just a bad NFS tbh.

i wanted to hurt something when Theo called the Broker "Underground Soldier"

Ive complete the mission but i think im gona play again.

The nostalgia I'm dead

100% agree with this title, I feel like I had more fun with Payback than heat, the crazy gambling plot entertained me a lot more than what heat brought. It's not prefect, far from it but I had a lot of fun with it