I just went with an M boat over a G boat. I recall years ago sticking with a 230 because I felt the G wave was too steep and only good for popping air. My 230 had a similar wave to a Malibu/Axis but I felt a good in between because it had more vert than the Malibu but not quite the G level of wall like wave. So Nautique has discontinued the 230 and it is time for a new boat. I tried a GS24 and was unimpressed with the wave's cleanliness and push. I kind of resigned myself to getting a G boat and just learning to switch my style to the steep wave. I tried an Axis and same as before I felt it was too flat with lots of surface area but not great push. Then I tried an M boat and holy cow it was the best wave I have ridden. Plus the adjustments with the wedge yielded a noticeable and useful difference. I would say the MSRP is on par to higher than the G boats. But with negotiation they are between the price of a G and a 23 LSV. So you get a better wave than the G, and some better luxury than the LSV but not quite the G level of luxury. Being that I like to surf, the idea of just buying a boat for luxury made me unhappy. WIsh Nautique would make a more water sports enthusiast focused boat that surfs better than the G with less cost going towards luxury features. Ditch the S and GS, bring back a new and improved 230.

Great video, thanks for taking the time to put this series together! I've owned both brands and they have plusses and minuses. Maybe I missed it, but I think a pretty unique Malibu feature that you didn't mention is the flip down swim step. Also, Lift mode on the Malibu wedge is a game changer for low speed kids watersports activities where you want to mellow out the wave as much as possible and get the boat on plane at a low speed (e.g., kids learning to ski).

What do you think about the new Tige ZX?

Can you do one on Supra boats? Vs Cent or nautique

Could you expand on (27:58) what you say about the extra ballast washing out the surf wave on a Nautique due to the way the surf system is designed? I've always thought more ballast the better for surfing?

@mitchmann2564

8 ай бұрын

Great question! More ballast is essentially always better on a lot of boats (Supra, Centurion, Supreme, Mastercraft, etc.), however, on both Nautique and Malibu, they create a wave by deflecting or crabbing the boat to one side. The more ballast a boat has, the less the surf system will deflect the boat to the side, meaning that at a certain point, the deflection is not strong enough and the wave will wash out. For Nautique this amount is right about full ballast and a full crew - any additional weight and the wave can no longer form properly.

@blakejerrett8735

8 ай бұрын

@@mitchmann2564 very interesting! I’m enjoying the content 👍

@mikeg7944

Ай бұрын

@@mitchmann2564 I think an easy way to think of it is that when we used to use suction gates prior to auto-surf systems, the optimal placement was the plate's top edge was right at the water line when the boat was fully loaded. If placed too deep under the water line they did not do as effective a job at crabbing the boat. So with the NSS tabs or the Malibu surf gate, if it is too far under the water you get the same problem. Thus overdoing the ballast negates the ability of the surf plate systems to do their job and crab the boat because it buries them too deep in the water.

Supra vs. Tige’ next?

I love these videos but the audio needs some love

Please do Supra vs Malibu… trying to make a decision this week 😂

@BoardCo

8 ай бұрын

Sadly not this week. If the decision has to be made this week - Mitch says buy a Supra, no debate.

@TGFarmsTX

8 ай бұрын

Go Malibu and never look back! Best looking boats on the water.

Supra vs Tige vs Centurion vs Nautique

@BoardCo

8 ай бұрын

Great idea! You might enjoy this video kzread.info/dash/bejne/q2Fn3KxyfquZkZs.html that discusses the 2024 changes for each brand!