I loved the lecture. There is a fourth requirement for the principle of double effect to apply - "The good effect must outweigh the evil effect or at least proportional."
@Rudisbashar7 жыл бұрын
For me moral law is always made by man even if it comes from his highest scource god himself we are whorshipping false gods and there rules. Mankind moral law is chancing as it evolves Natural law is everlasting and comes from the source knowthyself and find out what this source is.
@SGProductions879 жыл бұрын
this is awesome.
@mariofelidi18743 жыл бұрын
Dam are you good.
@Buncelh6 жыл бұрын
Great lecturer
@tonywong73003 жыл бұрын
This is my third time watching.
@tinstrocio14058 жыл бұрын
Im confused.is natural law and moral law the same?if not then whats the difference?
@startpage7173 жыл бұрын
But then what is "Truth"...(as this is all "made up" too)...besides the person doesn't/or does tell a "lie" what is the Tellers intention? Why can't the Teller with the knowledge mind their own business...in the cheating relationship for example...Good lecturer
@PhillyStackz2 жыл бұрын
Laws of logic exist because of God.
@PhillyStackz2 жыл бұрын
The problem with natural law is morals become subjective. If morals are subjective there are no moral oughts nothing is good, nothing is evil, nothing has value. What is rational? We are rational because we are created with the mind of Christ. His law has been written on our hearts.
@PhillyStackz2 жыл бұрын
God is morally perfect, we were created in His image. We rebel against Him. God didnt specifically say don't torture children because it falls under Love your neighbor as yourself. God defines love in His word. You have completely misrepresented and misunderstood many of what you have said.
@LunaLu-006 жыл бұрын
No, I do not believe purpose of animal's existence is to serve people.
@LunaLu-006 жыл бұрын
so aborting an unwanted baby is not moral but eating a cow's baby is moral ?? why? because humans say so!
@jasonbernard5468
4 жыл бұрын
A calf or cow-baby is irrational. Stated in other terms, the calf cannot act with virtue- it cannot make a free choice between sin and good deeds, and so it cannot make a free choice to love. While it is a charming animal that looks very much like us in some ways, there is a vast difference in what would be an indignity to the calf, vs. a human being. I am not saying that the calf does not think or feel, but just that it has no moral choices, nor a morally fragile soul. It is like us, but also very different. A child on the other hand, even in the womb, has a rational soul.
@LunaLu-00
4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonbernard5468 Humans are 'virtuous" (per you) and animals are not (highly disagree - i am sure its the opposite) So, per you, humans, as 'virtuous' beings able to choose between good and evil, free to love and be moral beings and yet they choose to treat in the most inhumane way animals and their babies. And yet humans have some special kind of 'soul' as well? and what is the purpose of that 'soul'? To create the most horrific conditions on this miserable planet?
@jasonbernard5468
4 жыл бұрын
@@LunaLu-00 Animals have virtue in the sense that all animals are virtuous. [of course, a virtue that is involuntary does not gain them much merit] Humans have virtue in the sense that they are able to choose to be virtuous. I think that your ideas about horrific conditions are a little unfair. Before humans came around, animals mercilessly slaughtered each other. Guess how cows die in the wild? not pleasantly and that includes calfs being ruthlessly mauled by predators. To be honest, many cows actually have better lives in a farm than they would in the wild (there are definite exceptions!) The purpose of the soul? It is to love. It is to do the right thing. Do we fail a lot? yes. But we also do a lot of good, and if you don't know that you are sadly distorting the facts against us.
@LunaLu-00
4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonbernard5468 Why am i not surprised that you are completely ignorant about how much animals 'benefited' once they came in contact with homo sapiens species, especially domesticated animals and all the evil brought on by us (not just to other species, nature and climate, but even to our own). And, oh, so familiar excuses on how much 'good' we do, once we expose totally innocent creatures to enormous amounts of suffering. How kind of us to "save" the cow (and all the other animals) from the natural circle of life by bringing them to man-made circle of hell. They should show their gratitude daily to the "amazing" human species with a "kind soul" . Sad fact - they do show their gratitude (to their non-deserving "owners") and THAT is the REAL virtue (not all that crap humans make up to make themselves feel better and worthy in their own eyes), but of course, you have no clue what i am talking about...
@jasonbernard5468
4 жыл бұрын
I don't want to reply to you because I think that you are trying to attack me as a person who you do not know. If you want to know more about my perspective, Temple Grandin has much influenced it (author of 'animals make us human') So has Jordan Peterson. I hope that you consider trying to read works such as theirs which might push the boundaries of what you are comfortable with, because I feel that we all need to work to understand the opposite to our own perspectives. I wish you well.
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I loved the lecture. There is a fourth requirement for the principle of double effect to apply - "The good effect must outweigh the evil effect or at least proportional."
For me moral law is always made by man even if it comes from his highest scource god himself we are whorshipping false gods and there rules. Mankind moral law is chancing as it evolves Natural law is everlasting and comes from the source knowthyself and find out what this source is.
this is awesome.
Dam are you good.
Great lecturer
This is my third time watching.
Im confused.is natural law and moral law the same?if not then whats the difference?
But then what is "Truth"...(as this is all "made up" too)...besides the person doesn't/or does tell a "lie" what is the Tellers intention? Why can't the Teller with the knowledge mind their own business...in the cheating relationship for example...Good lecturer
Laws of logic exist because of God.
The problem with natural law is morals become subjective. If morals are subjective there are no moral oughts nothing is good, nothing is evil, nothing has value. What is rational? We are rational because we are created with the mind of Christ. His law has been written on our hearts.
God is morally perfect, we were created in His image. We rebel against Him. God didnt specifically say don't torture children because it falls under Love your neighbor as yourself. God defines love in His word. You have completely misrepresented and misunderstood many of what you have said.
No, I do not believe purpose of animal's existence is to serve people.
so aborting an unwanted baby is not moral but eating a cow's baby is moral ?? why? because humans say so!
@jasonbernard5468
4 жыл бұрын
A calf or cow-baby is irrational. Stated in other terms, the calf cannot act with virtue- it cannot make a free choice between sin and good deeds, and so it cannot make a free choice to love. While it is a charming animal that looks very much like us in some ways, there is a vast difference in what would be an indignity to the calf, vs. a human being. I am not saying that the calf does not think or feel, but just that it has no moral choices, nor a morally fragile soul. It is like us, but also very different. A child on the other hand, even in the womb, has a rational soul.
@LunaLu-00
4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonbernard5468 Humans are 'virtuous" (per you) and animals are not (highly disagree - i am sure its the opposite) So, per you, humans, as 'virtuous' beings able to choose between good and evil, free to love and be moral beings and yet they choose to treat in the most inhumane way animals and their babies. And yet humans have some special kind of 'soul' as well? and what is the purpose of that 'soul'? To create the most horrific conditions on this miserable planet?
@jasonbernard5468
4 жыл бұрын
@@LunaLu-00 Animals have virtue in the sense that all animals are virtuous. [of course, a virtue that is involuntary does not gain them much merit] Humans have virtue in the sense that they are able to choose to be virtuous. I think that your ideas about horrific conditions are a little unfair. Before humans came around, animals mercilessly slaughtered each other. Guess how cows die in the wild? not pleasantly and that includes calfs being ruthlessly mauled by predators. To be honest, many cows actually have better lives in a farm than they would in the wild (there are definite exceptions!) The purpose of the soul? It is to love. It is to do the right thing. Do we fail a lot? yes. But we also do a lot of good, and if you don't know that you are sadly distorting the facts against us.
@LunaLu-00
4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonbernard5468 Why am i not surprised that you are completely ignorant about how much animals 'benefited' once they came in contact with homo sapiens species, especially domesticated animals and all the evil brought on by us (not just to other species, nature and climate, but even to our own). And, oh, so familiar excuses on how much 'good' we do, once we expose totally innocent creatures to enormous amounts of suffering. How kind of us to "save" the cow (and all the other animals) from the natural circle of life by bringing them to man-made circle of hell. They should show their gratitude daily to the "amazing" human species with a "kind soul" . Sad fact - they do show their gratitude (to their non-deserving "owners") and THAT is the REAL virtue (not all that crap humans make up to make themselves feel better and worthy in their own eyes), but of course, you have no clue what i am talking about...
@jasonbernard5468
4 жыл бұрын
I don't want to reply to you because I think that you are trying to attack me as a person who you do not know. If you want to know more about my perspective, Temple Grandin has much influenced it (author of 'animals make us human') So has Jordan Peterson. I hope that you consider trying to read works such as theirs which might push the boundaries of what you are comfortable with, because I feel that we all need to work to understand the opposite to our own perspectives. I wish you well.