Amen!

So glad you brought up Xenophon's work! Ditto.Whenever we get dogmatic and rigid about the "one true way" to do things, whether in horsemanship or anything else in life, we become over-invested in being "right".

Thank you very much for your true words! You have spoken right out of my mind and heart!

The best Ray Hunt story I ever heard, real common sense is not just uncommon it is almost never seen.

Excellent topic, so so needed in this age of confusion !

Well done.

Bravo!

The divide of everything in the natural world is perennial, even schools of thought. It’s up to wise ones among us to keep it all together as a functioning unit. You are one of those wise folks Herm. My coach of 12 years used techniques from both schools and hence I have two great mares that are great to be around. I indulge them these days but they know I will only tolerate so much nonsense before things get real lol.

Isn't life about balance in all we do? I believe that each horse has a different "horse-anality" and thus training should be tailored somewhat to that horse's needs. However, there are basic characteristics and herd behaviors common to all horses, which must be considered, as well. I have a 8 yr old introverted QH mare, who failed (under other ownership) on the race track and as a barrel horse. I'm training her to be my trail horse. It is definitely a long journey of using both types of training to develop a trusted partner. BTW, Mr. Gailey, I watch Tim Anderson's training videos a LOT; he has given me so much knowledge on the training side. I always appreciate his acknowledgement, though, that no two horses he trains have the same personality and training requirements. Both of you are kind to your horses, but firm in your training. That's a winning combination.

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I watch him too. I have a mule.

Good video Herm. I go along with the Dorrance methods and the Ray Hunt if you make a mistake or aren't minding you have to work method. I don't believe in the blindfold em saddle up and buck em out style of the old west. My Dad broke my one horse at the age of 2 I didn't ride him for 4 years as I had another. He passed away so I had the 6 year old. That horse never bucked reared or did anything wrong. They wanted me to just ride him on the property well you know how kids are- I was 14. I took that horse down the highway, under railroads with trains going over and past pigs. This horse was totally trusting in me. I would have to say he was the best horse I ever owned. He was 36 yrs old when he passed away. He was broke right and honest and willing as the day was long. Broke my heart when he passed away.

Pat Parrelli coined the word Natural Horsemanship.

As with every part of life extremes in anything are not good. The truth is always in the middle.

Herm; it almost sounds like you're about to say there are better ways of dealing with Hancock bred colts who like to go full bronk than withholding cookies. 😄 Looking forward to Part II!

I found this video very thoughtful and informative. I hope to catch Part ll. Thanks for your wisdom.

Great video! Thank you for sharing your wisdom, sir!

The trouble with Natural Horsemanship is it produced confused robotic horses who moved from cues and unable to be horses needing continuous help. The traditional set produced overly desensitised horses who were not allowed to think for themselves and also robotic. For me one is overly female and the other overly male.

I think Richard Winters is the closest thing to combining the two that I have seen. Horse whispering is all right but sometimes we need to be heard.

Traditional horse training can be okay and a good tool. However, just flooding and trying up and throwing a saddle on is not horse training, so parts of it are abusive. Using a painful bit for control is not training. There is no such thing as pure natural horsemanship. Natural horsemanship is, is using the natural behavior and rules horses create for themselves in a herd to establish boundaries and respect. Pressure and release. This works for almost anything even teaching the horse to lay down to be super soft to ride with no bit ever and do everything a bitter horse will do. However, behind the sense there are so-called punishments the difference is Traditional punishment is hitting kicking beating with sticks the natural punishment is working, Having to move those feet can be just bending the horse and having the hind end move in a circle the give it light and movement is smooth be it is still a punishment. But I agree there are still many parts of traditional methods within natural horsemanship there has to be, They all can not be wrong. The only part that was wrong was the access flooding the hitting the holding down tieing up for a long time the abuses part. If you take all the abuse out of tradition it's okay. Treats are okay but in very very little amounts. Horses are not predators and they are not food leaners. They love food and will learn with food but the way they learn is different, a horse that is released to a behavior is much more reliable than a horse that offers up a behavior because of food. if you use too much food then don't have it a horse will stop the behavior without any other training, and a predator like a K9 will not.