NATO at 75: More Allies, Less Unity? | To the point

NATO is celebrating its 75th anniversary -- in the shadow of unprecedented challenges. Just as alliance leaders were gathering, Russia bombarded a pediatric hospital in Kiev, killing and wounding dozens of children and prompting Ukraine’s president to renew his pleas for additional air defense systems. Whether such support will be forthcoming in future even if Donald Trump returns to the White House is just one of the doubts worrying NATO members. The alliance is bigger than ever, but does that make it stronger, or potentially more divided? Can 32 member states maintain a united front against aggressors? The question: NATO at 75: More Allies, Less Unity?
Guests:
Marcus Keupp, Department of Defense Economics at the Military Academy of the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology
Rafael Loss, European Council on Foreign Relations
Kristi Raik, International Centre for Defence and Security
Chapters:
00:00 Opener
02:20 Russian war crimes - the new normal?
03:30 A Russian attack on a hospital targeted to show NATO’s weakness?
04:50 The allies are not doing enough to enable Ukraine to win the war
05:45 Video: NATO - united and stronger than ever?
07:40 How great is NATO’s potential?
09:25 Is NATO doing enough to deter a Russian attack on Poland the Baltics?
10:40 How fast could Russia rebuild its military capacity?
12:45 Is Germany still a laggard
14:05 Will the burden to defend Europe shift from the US to the Europeans
15:45 The emphasis of Baltic and Nordic countries is still on transatlantic ties
17:30 We’ve had 30 years of policy failure in Europ
18:00 It takes years to bring the West to a production level that can compare with Russia
18:50 Video: Who is Mark Rutte, the new NATO-Chief?
20:00 Is NATO up to the new challenges?
22:00 Do the new initiatives make NATO Trump-proof?
22:40 Is it enough to promise that Ukraine’s NATO membership is “irreversible”?
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  • @stephanmbenti2855
    @stephanmbenti285520 күн бұрын

    It’s always the people that when the war comes won’t be the one on the front line talking the loudest.

  • @hhKJgf1M8a0rzt8hP
    @hhKJgf1M8a0rzt8hP20 күн бұрын

    2% of GDP now to deter OR 40% of GDP later to fight. The choice should be obvious.

  • @urbansenicar81

    @urbansenicar81

    20 күн бұрын

    Yes. Later.

  • @burns281981

    @burns281981

    20 күн бұрын

    @@urbansenicar81 try a full sentence sport. English really that hard even with a built in translation feature? Like you can't type a sentence in any language?

  • @trevorsutherland5263
    @trevorsutherland526320 күн бұрын

    How can there be "unity" when all NATO members are not equal?? The United States always gets what it wants; you think the same can be said of Portugal or Estonia????😂

  • @user-hc9lp3hb1r

    @user-hc9lp3hb1r

    20 күн бұрын

    Be careful what you wish for. If Trump is elected NATO countries like Portugal and Estonia may be able to do whatever they want to but with Russia at their doorstep.

  • @legatilegions8055

    @legatilegions8055

    20 күн бұрын

    nato is a democracy, i know someone like you got no idea how a democracy works, you should study it, you might learn something

  • @wahidsamiyusuf2134

    @wahidsamiyusuf2134

    19 күн бұрын

    Yes! A corrupted democracy most of it just stays on paper not in practice.

  • @jano-ir1cg

    @jano-ir1cg

    19 күн бұрын

    Who has tried to invade the us? And have been the us invaded

  • @jano-ir1cg

    @jano-ir1cg

    19 күн бұрын

    And who have been the us invaded?? Shall I write the list or you have the intelligence to search for??????

  • @ph6560
    @ph656019 күн бұрын

    As always Marcus Keupp was spot on and interesting to listen to. However, the other participants were not at par, and the show format needs tweaking to generate a flow and interesting debate that actually generates new food for thought.

  • @user-el8pd7of9y
    @user-el8pd7of9y20 күн бұрын

    Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified, is not a crime.

  • @Incorruptus1

    @Incorruptus1

    20 күн бұрын

    Tell that to Putin.

  • @keterscp1064

    @keterscp1064

    20 күн бұрын

    ​And Israel​ @@Incorruptus1

  • @Incorruptus1

    @Incorruptus1

    20 күн бұрын

    @@keterscp1064 Yupp.

  • @user-hc9lp3hb1r

    @user-hc9lp3hb1r

    20 күн бұрын

    Agreed, but NOT defending yourself against an aggressor like Putin is also a crime.

  • @MrWhitmen1981

    @MrWhitmen1981

    20 күн бұрын

    War will always be better than tribute.

  • @fronabulax63
    @fronabulax6320 күн бұрын

    what a clownshow

  • @legatilegions8055

    @legatilegions8055

    20 күн бұрын

    says the only clown here, so i guess you would know

  • @lessparks8553

    @lessparks8553

    19 күн бұрын

    After Iraq and Afghanistan and Israel Yeah I agree

  • @lessparks8553

    @lessparks8553

    19 күн бұрын

    After Iraq, Afghanistan and Israel Europe has lost me

  • @jaykishoreduvvuri7598

    @jaykishoreduvvuri7598

    19 күн бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @MaramaoMaramao

    @MaramaoMaramao

    19 күн бұрын

    Are thinking about yourself?

  • @shurqeh
    @shurqeh19 күн бұрын

    Notice how they side stepped the question of "Would Poland be next"

  • @HemanshuAmbani
    @HemanshuAmbani20 күн бұрын

    40 trillion economy cannot fight against 2 trillion economy 😂😂😂

  • @PeterLamin-pi6rv

    @PeterLamin-pi6rv

    20 күн бұрын

    34 trillions in debt 🤣🤣🤯🤯🤡🤡🤡

  • @Wvavy

    @Wvavy

    20 күн бұрын

    ​@@PeterLamin-pi6rvdebt to US citizens and something the US can afford being the largest economy in the world. Why don't you talk about the $200 trillion debt th3 chinese have but are hiding? Yet the US sits on top of the world looking down at you 😂

  • @lessparks8553

    @lessparks8553

    19 күн бұрын

    Europe forgot how to actually fight

  • @TheKkpop1
    @TheKkpop119 күн бұрын

    More allies for wars but less unity for peace!!!

  • @waynegore5291
    @waynegore529120 күн бұрын

    DW, How are the children in Gaza?

  • @legatilegions8055

    @legatilegions8055

    20 күн бұрын

    What does the people of gazaa have to do with nato?

  • @waynegore5291

    @waynegore5291

    20 күн бұрын

    @legatilegions8055 Now, you reveal the nature of NATO.

  • @legatilegions8055

    @legatilegions8055

    20 күн бұрын

    @@waynegore5291 no im asking you, its quite simple to understand even if you got a small brain, but ill ask again.. What does israels war with hamas have to do with nato??

  • @michaelasamoah2390

    @michaelasamoah2390

    20 күн бұрын

    How was it to libya?

  • @dperson5390

    @dperson5390

    20 күн бұрын

    Thank you for saying what I was thinking!

  • @Howard-rh1vk
    @Howard-rh1vk20 күн бұрын

    Is that too complicated for you all?

  • @NoInterleaving
    @NoInterleaving20 күн бұрын

    On September 12, 2001, a day after the terrorist attacks of September 11, the United States officially requested the support of its NATO allies, invoking Article 5 of the NATO Treaty. Was the assistance from other countries, nato members sufficient at that time?

  • @user-hc9lp3hb1r

    @user-hc9lp3hb1r

    20 күн бұрын

    It was but this is a bad example because the US really did not need assistance.

  • @legatilegions8055

    @legatilegions8055

    20 күн бұрын

    yeh they won over two countries aand held them for 20 years while only lossing a couple thousand troops, so it was very succesful and suffcient it seems

  • @Memovox

    @Memovox

    20 күн бұрын

    @@legatilegions8055 The US & Co. got 20 years of humiliation and legged it out of Afghanistan overnight.

  • @user-hc9lp3hb1r

    @user-hc9lp3hb1r

    20 күн бұрын

    @@Memovox YOU got 20 years of humiliation, Muhammad.

  • @reneprovosty7032
    @reneprovosty703220 күн бұрын

    it is like this in the Eu the bigger you get the less consensus you have, it needed to be deeper first.

  • @amilaperera1
    @amilaperera120 күн бұрын

    Definitely: More Allies , Less Unity

  • @TheKkpop1

    @TheKkpop1

    19 күн бұрын

    @@amilaperera1 correct , more allies for wars, less unity for peace.

  • @TheKkpop1

    @TheKkpop1

    19 күн бұрын

    Correct, more allies for war, less unity for peace.

  • @sophanasan3740
    @sophanasan374019 күн бұрын

    One of best pretexts the Dictators around the world can respond to “their actions of lethal destruction” is “rejection”…! More importantly, they always act as the “victims” of what happened…!

  • @edwardquaye6148
    @edwardquaye614820 күн бұрын

    How can 32 nation fighting russia cry for china help

  • @PeterLamin-pi6rv

    @PeterLamin-pi6rv

    20 күн бұрын

    Sanctions are wonderful 💯🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡

  • @legatilegions8055

    @legatilegions8055

    20 күн бұрын

    no one is crying but you, most of us are laughing ^^ its putin who is crying to china, iran and NK

  • @lessparks8553

    @lessparks8553

    19 күн бұрын

    It's hypocritical

  • @dennisjojoaffanyi6637

    @dennisjojoaffanyi6637

    19 күн бұрын

    EXACTLY

  • @dennisjojoaffanyi6637

    @dennisjojoaffanyi6637

    19 күн бұрын

    NATO is a laughing stock

  • @lepetitroquet9410
    @lepetitroquet941020 күн бұрын

    Fun how the USA used to be the leader of the free world, with NATO on top of their greatest achievement, only to now give their president king power to stand above the law and destroy the alliance they built. Well, not the weirdest thing that happened in history ^^.

  • @Wvavy

    @Wvavy

    20 күн бұрын

    The USA IS the leader of the world. Wtf are you talking about 😂

  • @TakZ000

    @TakZ000

    20 күн бұрын

    There are no president king in NATO. Each country has veto powers. Still, US still leads the free world. Free world also means each other country has a say and viewed equally by US.

  • @lepetitroquet9410

    @lepetitroquet9410

    20 күн бұрын

    @@TakZ000 You seem to have missed the last development in US politic, especially when it comes to their supreme court ;p.

  • @lepetitroquet9410

    @lepetitroquet9410

    20 күн бұрын

    @@Wvavy And then, trump and his MAGA movement ;p.

  • @paulcock8929
    @paulcock892919 күн бұрын

    Not dozens of children (three too much), but three, and the possibility exists that it was a Ukraine air defense rocket.

  • @Incorruptus1
    @Incorruptus120 күн бұрын

    Can you stop the beating house music in the back ground, it is completely irritating.

  • @Memovox

    @Memovox

    20 күн бұрын

    The show must go on. Never mind the casualties.

  • @created1991
    @created199119 күн бұрын

    NATO is one country with 31 slave countries...😂😂😂😂

  • @amythomspon956
    @amythomspon95619 күн бұрын

    32 members means nothing. Not all members are the same.

  • @samueljr.2026
    @samueljr.202620 күн бұрын

    The french defeat must be paid by France, not by Europe.

  • @4700_Dk
    @4700_Dk19 күн бұрын

    And no mention of India, who is buying Russian resources as well.

  • @lastChang
    @lastChang20 күн бұрын

    Generation after generation, the NATO alliance continues to contribute greatly to mankind by keeping peace and international orders around the world from maligned actors. - Freedom-loving people should be thankful for their services.

  • @felipe-vibor

    @felipe-vibor

    20 күн бұрын

    Which mankind? The rest outside the west know what that grouping means

  • @PeterLamin-pi6rv

    @PeterLamin-pi6rv

    20 күн бұрын

    😂😂 Iraq, Lybia Serbia Syria 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤯🤡🤡🤡

  • @legatilegions8055

    @legatilegions8055

    20 күн бұрын

    @@PeterLamin-pi6rv iraq = mad dictator, lybia = crazy dictator, syria = crazy dictator, nato saved a huge number of those populations from their own insane dictators who was killing them, so you should be thanking nato. Thanks for bring it up 🤡

  • @trevornewton2646

    @trevornewton2646

    19 күн бұрын

    ​@@PeterLamin-pi6rvNot doing anything to help the people of Gaza either.

  • @jkc3738

    @jkc3738

    19 күн бұрын

    I always thought this was an Indian bot... now I'm not so sure...

  • @tuckwingcheng5785
    @tuckwingcheng578519 күн бұрын

    Send this groups to front line .

  • @Burkhard_Ehnes
    @Burkhard_Ehnes19 күн бұрын

    take out the "N" and the "A" of NATO, reconsider the original aims, the original circumstances, realize, that they have been similar to today, only not around the North-Atlantic, but the entire globe, come by that to the conclusion, that a deterrence treaty organization up to date needs to include Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Australia and New Zealand and find out, that right that would be the solution to the world's issues. Yes - China would bark loudly - but discover its priority for pecuniary interests. THAT alliance would be the framework that could work without US, but would hurt US when leaving that much that it will stay and even accept its reduced dominance. Founding that alliance would mean a new accession process, demanding of Hungary and Turkey a re-consideration of their orientation. They would NOT orient towards their failing besties. Not at least: THAT would be the urgently un-bypassable security pillar of UN-SC.

  • @golmgolm
    @golmgolm18 күн бұрын

    I'm outraged by this video but since DW removes comments with genuine criticism I'll leave it like that.

  • @franklinmachin8
    @franklinmachin819 күн бұрын

    I remember when rocket lauched handgrenades were used to take over the Government of Ukraine.

  • @RBISTO541
    @RBISTO54120 күн бұрын

    They 2 will start ww3😮

  • @legatilegions8055

    @legatilegions8055

    20 күн бұрын

    you mean putin and kim?

  • @Shining237
    @Shining23720 күн бұрын

    End NATO ☮️💞 and save the world 🌍 from these warmongers 🕊️

  • @TakZ000

    @TakZ000

    20 күн бұрын

    Warmonger Russia is validating the existence of NATO.

  • @user-hc9lp3hb1r

    @user-hc9lp3hb1r

    20 күн бұрын

    Sorry Vladimir, ain't gonna happen!

  • @tenorio295

    @tenorio295

    20 күн бұрын

    Lol and leave europe to russia? Not happening rubot

  • @burns281981

    @burns281981

    20 күн бұрын

    I guess we are suppose to guess at what three OP was talking about. Not hard to spot the foreigner posts. They never quite understand how a full sentence actually works.

  • @Memovox

    @Memovox

    20 күн бұрын

    @@burns281981 Calm down, grammar Karen.

  • @dirtyharry6297
    @dirtyharry629720 күн бұрын

    33 Magic number

  • @lessparks8553

    @lessparks8553

    19 күн бұрын

    88

  • @wadebutler6996
    @wadebutler699619 күн бұрын

    As an American i can't wait for The United States to get out of NATO. I wish all Europeans luck on your security. America doesn't belong in Europe and we don't need to be spending money for European defense.

  • @davidmitchell3020

    @davidmitchell3020

    19 күн бұрын

    I agree with you. The United States should have left when the Soviet Union collapsed.

  • @El.presidente
    @El.presidente20 күн бұрын

    The Western Empire falls

  • @corujariousa
    @corujariousa20 күн бұрын

    Organizations like NATO start failing, or having more serious internal challenges to existence, when they loose the commitment to the organization charter. NATO members for decades got used to depending on the US to serve as sheriff of the world and stopped the financial investments they signed up for. Trump is a complete lunatic and criminal but he served to show how weak our systems in the US, and some international, are. The big question in the air now is: Are we going to use the learning and fix what we see is deficient?

  • @comictv7730
    @comictv773019 күн бұрын

    Over 32 nation with everything but can't contain Russia.

  • @СветланаКар

    @СветланаКар

    17 күн бұрын

    Не будите русского медведя!

  • @Chitramalla1
    @Chitramalla120 күн бұрын

    One voice and one view point what kind of debate... May feels good debate 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @KityKatKiller

    @KityKatKiller

    20 күн бұрын

    It's not a debate. It's an interview...

  • @Memovox

    @Memovox

    20 күн бұрын

    @@KityKatKiller Jawohl!

  • @prospersalitsi7826
    @prospersalitsi782619 күн бұрын

    How about Israel's strike in Gaza?

  • @13BulliTs

    @13BulliTs

    19 күн бұрын

    How about you stay on the topic, Rubot? 😂

  • @theGreatkafir72
    @theGreatkafir7220 күн бұрын

    Russia is all alone even USSR broke down then why are they expanding NATO?

  • @tapetak

    @tapetak

    19 күн бұрын

    Not expanding. Countries join NATO, because Russia would invade them otherwise.

  • @СветланаКар

    @СветланаКар

    17 күн бұрын

    Россия не одна, Россия с народом, и дух простого россиянина более чем героический!

  • @reneprovosty7032
    @reneprovosty703220 күн бұрын

    not exactly excited for America to send troops to Europe and defend them when for decades Europe was asleep and did not maintain some kind of credible defense.

  • @reneprovosty7032

    @reneprovosty7032

    20 күн бұрын

    you guys did this to yourself.

  • @Memovox

    @Memovox

    20 күн бұрын

    @@reneprovosty7032 I don't know anyone who will be sad to see the US leave European soil. And I know a lot of people.

  • @reneprovosty7032

    @reneprovosty7032

    19 күн бұрын

    @@Memovox there are many of us, that would be happy to do so. But would it be good for either of us?

  • @richardlesperance8259
    @richardlesperance825919 күн бұрын

    Russia can’t bully you anymore and Medvedev knows it!

  • @СветланаКар

    @СветланаКар

    17 күн бұрын

    А чего нас бояться, и когда это мы всех стращали? Мы за справедливость. За Мир!

  • @NCtv-jw9mm
    @NCtv-jw9mm19 күн бұрын

    What about the European Countries and the U.S are they not Imperialist??....this guy in them brown shoes just talking rubbish.

  • @Johnnybunt
    @Johnnybunt19 күн бұрын

    1944?????????

  • @urbansenicar81
    @urbansenicar8120 күн бұрын

    NATO countries spend 3 times as much on arms as the rest of the world, China and Russia included. Given that, it's hard to make a sale pitch for even more, but try they will.

  • @WackadoodleMalarkey

    @WackadoodleMalarkey

    20 күн бұрын

    Western Lives Matter

  • @nilswedin8480
    @nilswedin848020 күн бұрын

    Russia is not the Soviet Union and definitely not the Warsaw Pact. Compared to the EU, which has four times the population and ten times the economy of Russia, Russia cannot win a war even against the EU. NATO is even bigger.

  • @BhekimpiloSmanga

    @BhekimpiloSmanga

    20 күн бұрын

    Have you not learnt anything with this war .... Russia is not Iraq or Libya.... plus one thing that you should know is most countries are not with the west .. China. India. Saudis... and within nato you have Orban and Turkish president who could easily swing the other side...then you now left with Germany.France and maybe Poland

  • @Memovox

    @Memovox

    20 күн бұрын

    @@BhekimpiloSmanga True, and France could easily swing in a not so distant future. Let's not forget how France withdrew from NATOs integrated military command in 1966.

  • @СветланаКар

    @СветланаКар

    17 күн бұрын

    У нас дети 5 летние гимн поют..... Вы ещё не знаете наши скрытые резервы, наш потенциал безграничный! Наша Россия не только самая красивая, но ещё и нравственно чистоплотная!

  • @Howard-rh1vk
    @Howard-rh1vk20 күн бұрын

    Pushing false narratives, again?

  • @comictv7730
    @comictv773019 күн бұрын

    Trump win mean peace on earth 😊

  • @user-ke8mc2gr4k
    @user-ke8mc2gr4k20 күн бұрын

    the same thing happened to people in GAZA too

  • @glumour3081
    @glumour308119 күн бұрын

    now nato vs russia... next aukus-quad vs china...

  • @TheKkpop1

    @TheKkpop1

    19 күн бұрын

    Don't left out NATO.

  • @TheKkpop1

    @TheKkpop1

    19 күн бұрын

    Count in NATO too.

  • @jayakodygaminda7119
    @jayakodygaminda711920 күн бұрын

    😂 A panel of day dreamers 😂

  • @Memovox
    @Memovox20 күн бұрын

    US-Foreverwars Inc. on the march.

  • @elkolfew
    @elkolfew20 күн бұрын

    Poor palestine

  • @legatilegions8055

    @legatilegions8055

    20 күн бұрын

    what does israels war with palestine have to do with nato`?

  • @SeanPan-it3jm
    @SeanPan-it3jm20 күн бұрын

    Bucha 2.0????

  • @Memovox

    @Memovox

    20 күн бұрын

    Speaking of, when will Kiev release the names of the victims and when will the West show an interest in an investigation?

  • @Boolat87
    @Boolat8720 күн бұрын

    hail nato

  • @mattbrooks819
    @mattbrooks81920 күн бұрын

    Why are you not asking "why was NATO and Europe so much safer with Donald Trump as President of the USA"?

  • @007nait
    @007nait20 күн бұрын

    NATO - LOLs!

  • @legatilegions8055

    @legatilegions8055

    20 күн бұрын

    yet nato can beat any army or coalition on the planet so lol right back at you

  • @boon3736
    @boon373619 күн бұрын

    Are u all talking about Israel blanket bombing

  • @jaykishoreduvvuri7598
    @jaykishoreduvvuri759819 күн бұрын

    What NATO have done so far to the world to celebrate 75 years . Yeah nice circus show 🎉

  • @user-xx9gw5zh8b
    @user-xx9gw5zh8b20 күн бұрын

    Germany too had done war crime against juse and rassia 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @peterjaniceforan3080
    @peterjaniceforan308019 күн бұрын

    🇭🇺👎🏼

  • @johnking8724
    @johnking872420 күн бұрын

    yea, if not for USA military there would not be a nato ! EU & UK must pay up ! for more defense !

  • @Memovox

    @Memovox

    20 күн бұрын

    Don't be entitled and expect the Europeans to pay for your hegemony.

  • @legatilegions8055

    @legatilegions8055

    20 күн бұрын

    says the russian guy acting american 😂😂

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