That tree is not near old enough to have ever met a Native American, at most that tree is 75 years old and to play it safe I’ll give you 100.

Thank you so very much for sharing this! We have the same trees all around us here in East Tennessee... Absolutely amazing! 😊

@cookingwiththeword5300

2 ай бұрын

You are so welcome!

Very interesting. My uncle has property in Alabama that has a cave, waterfall, Indian marks and a trail marker tree

@bromethiustrilbotbromeldeh6625

Жыл бұрын

well heck share a lil on the county

@lindahunter8024

Жыл бұрын

​Cherokee

Great video, sir! Thank you

@cookingwiththeword5300

4 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

Even if it is young, it doesn't mean it isn't a marker tree. After all, indigenous people still survive to this age and pass down their traditions.

@shable1436

11 ай бұрын

I live here in Virginia, and part Cherokee, these markers are learned but everyone bent trees back in the wagon days not just natives

I don't believe that tfee would be old enough to be a marker. Beautiful property tho.

Very interesting trail marker tree. The carving looks like the head and body of a snake.

That is just a coincidence! The tree is nowhere near old enough to even been around during the Civil War, much less Native Americans. That is however, definitely a Native rock shelter. The tree was blocked from sunlight by bigger trees and grew that way on it's own to get light.

@headhunter7049

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@AntiQris

11 ай бұрын

Many trees like that do like you are saying but it’s a thing not only First Nations did but also the Roosevelt era work corps marked monuments like this in the 30s. No reason to think folks that do this don’t still exist. My daughter just was camping in a very rural area and they had an old man First Nations guy appear at their campsite and tell a few stories. We aren’t gone y’all, I’m barely a quarter and still live like the ancients did as much as I can.

No tree in this woods is older than 100 years. Native Americans were gone from this area centuries before this tree was even a sapling.

Thank you for this video! Great learning about the trail markers!

@shable1436

11 ай бұрын

These trees the actual natives did are all gone, these are trees that were done by 150 to 75 years ago, reason is because of their life span

I have a similar area on my aunts land, bent tree pointing to seemingly carved stone with multiple lined up holes through the stone.

They probably would’ve just broken the sapling. The cambium layer would still be connected on one side, allowing the tree to live and heal.

You can see the fire on the roof. I'm sure there is so many artifacts in there

This is amazing!!! Great find

@cookingwiththeword5300

2 жыл бұрын

thanks

A very exciting and interesting video, sir. I think I saw the face of a Bigfoot at around the TiMESTAMP: 11:15. I'm too scared to go hiking and exploring in the Blue Ridge mountains... You are very brave!!!

Nice work brother! I’m doing the same investigative hunt over here in southern Oregon. My property has these trees too and they point to the creek and to deer trails that lead to a big logging road. I just followed it out just now.

@cookingwiththeword5300

10 ай бұрын

That is awesome!

I suspect the bent tree was helpful as a property boundary marker? It does straddle a fence that hints at some sort of division.

Hi. It's so uncanny you post this! Unbelievable! I'm from Oklahoma. I'm half Shawnee. Been tracing back my ancestry. Recently came across some things very similar. Walking and enjoying nature here. Lol. 🙏❤️🙏

@AntiQris

11 ай бұрын

For Shawnee look at the “Chattan confederation” surname “Shaw”. Quite awesome stories of the Shaw family in scot-Irish history and stems from The Brus/Bruce family.

You need to dig and sift the dirt around that shelter. You will have incredible finds and plenty of videos

@mikemuncy1101

Жыл бұрын

We are going to right away

That might a grave site .if you dig around there you might find body parts.

A Bigfoot bent that tree to mark the location of his cave. Be careful over there, Michael...

Not nearly old enough, find one 200 years old and you might be on to something

@harrypeters8306

Жыл бұрын

I agree, I've seen this trees bent many many times from over 50 years of walking through woodlands in Pennsylvania!

@kriskabin

Жыл бұрын

🙄 Native Americans HAVE ALWAYS BEEN HERE & they're still here today! They could've altered that tree 100yrs ago, 75yrs ago. Oak trees are slow growing, especially when they've been seriously altered by humans. ***Proof: Bonsai trees. That tree could easily be 100yrs old & may have replaced an older marker tree in that same spot that may have been destroyed by lighting or cut down by Europeans.

Fantastic. I know of two similar trees and plan to investigate!

I agree with the other comments that say this tree is not near old enough. If I walk around in the woods long enough, I'm sure I can find a bent tree pointing to an Indian settlement here or to the creek also here.

@shable1436

11 ай бұрын

The original trees are all dead, the life span is 150 at most, they long gone

@iwalkincircles2960

11 ай бұрын

@shable1436 oh I know.

@fortfasnacht

11 ай бұрын

​@@shable1436most hardwoods live to be at least 200 if undisturbed. Eastern hemlocks have been documented at over 900 years old. It's also extremely difficult to guess a tree's age by its diameter. I've cut a 41" maple growing by itself in an open field that was only 70 years old, and a 9" chestnut oak growing on a hilltop that was 180 years old.

My guess is that a tree that was set a a marker tree would have to be around 200+ years old. That tree does not look that old.

@benniebarrow348

Жыл бұрын

Yep …..not saying they didn’t do markers , including trees, but most of those trees are no where near old enough for those time periods. My guess would be previous logging, storms or natural deformations .

@kriskabin

Жыл бұрын

Oaks are slow growing trees, especially when they've been severely altered by humans. That tree could be a good 100yrs+ old.

@benniebarrow348

Жыл бұрын

@@kriskabin been in the woods and dealing with trees for 50 plus years ,especially hardwoods , I’ll have to respectfully disagree…….a few may be 70-80 years old but noway they are 170 plus years old to be affected by traveling natives.

@AntiQris

11 ай бұрын

I think our idea of what a “native” is/was could distort the outcome of our discoveries here. I am on the west coast and the “native” folks most recently before the 19th century “hhwhites” were Mongolian miners from the celestial empire. A Christian Spanish/Mongolian pairing that had many people of Turkish, Spanish, Irish, scots/Tartarian etc coming here and living rather primitive lives. These practices we see in this video could have been rather recent and following learned practice of the ways of that land. Remember that we only “forgot” who we were just recently when granddads left for all the wars we had this past century. All the old ways of my family lost to said wars. I am now recovering data intuitively and it’s like this guy is saying. Those trees could be recent relative to our thoughts on when leather flap wearing feather hat folks were running through the wood. I’d imagine that there was fairly regular upkeep on such important markers. So maybe folks came along here and there and remade them etc. cuz there does seem to be age diff in many I’ve seen, you can tell what nature did and what was manipulated. It’s a cannabis growing trick indoors to do that alteration as well so that all probably comes from the knowledge of the folks that brought us better corn kernels lol

@shable1436

11 ай бұрын

I live in VA, and natives weren't the only ones to bend trees, my family comes from long history of long hunters, they would blaze trails and use all types of markers, so did pre civil war times cutting trails

U R 100%RIGHT Looks like a hunting shelter to me. Most definitely a trail marker tree. I have a few videos on marker trees feel free to check them out. A lot of people don't believe that they are old enough to be marker trees. Thank you for sharing

@Outdoors2024-r1q

Жыл бұрын

lol

@mikemuncy1101

Жыл бұрын

sounds good we will

@lookoutmountaingarockhunte1300

Жыл бұрын

????

@shable1436

11 ай бұрын

Because they aren't old enough, I'm from the mountains of VA, and know this well, natives weren't the only ones who bent trees. Those trees are long gone, the life span of those deciduous trees are not that long, there's only certain trees that live for hundreds of years

Check with your state’s Native American archaeological department and pull the public records for this location. It should contain all recorded information, drawings, photographs, archaeological reports, journals and references to any artifacts recovered or associated with this site.

Probably a good stop over to camp.

Bring a flashlight next time.

That rock formation/cave is incredible! With the trail tree pointing directly towards it, it is obvious this rock formation/cave was used a wind breaker/shelter. You’ve stumbled upon a major archaeological site that is going to be rich with artifacts. I would dig right there underneath that wall where your dog was sniffing as well under the cliff overhand/cave and it very rich with artifacts as is common in all cave/cliff overhangs. Those are the 2 best spots to find truck loads of arrowheads and other artifacts.

@Outdoors2024-r1q

Жыл бұрын

A major archaeological site huh? Ummm no

Very cool.

So you think that cherry tree was around when the native americans were huh? lol

@franksullivan1873

Жыл бұрын

It does not have to be old we are still here.

Gold

Searching native trail markers and came across this. Cool find. I definitely want to know more about the cave you found. Nice video

@Outdoors2024-r1q

Жыл бұрын

Any tree in this forest that saw native americans is long gone.

@kriskabin

Жыл бұрын

​@@Outdoors2024-r1q 😂 Wrong. Bigotted.?.

@Outdoors2024-r1q

Жыл бұрын

@@kriskabin or factual?

🤣

Trees aren’t old enough dude!

That tree is not hundreds of years old . Count the rings😊

That texture actually looks like scales…

@cookingwiththeword5300

Ай бұрын

i thought the same thing

please look at the bark on that it looks like a old log fell on the tree that it almost killed it the tree survived beause one of its branches went up to get sun light before anther tree got it

Umm. That tree is less than 100 years old.....

John swift made marker li,e the ndias.

Not an Indian Marker Tree! Smh. First clue, age of the tree 👍😉🙄😁

@clydea.murphy2219

5 ай бұрын

The tree growth could have been stun, by it being bent over in that strictive way!!

Rock shelter we would find broken water bowls and Indian said when they left they would break the water bowls so the next Indian that came through know it is vacant if the bowls are not beakin some people was living here

@cookingwiththeword5300

2 ай бұрын

that’s great to know. thanks so much

TIMESTAMP: 13:40 I think that the cave carvings say: "Drink Coca Cola"

@jimmylorang995

8 ай бұрын

Seriously...I think that the cave drawing is the top profile of a snake's head (to the far right) and neck and back---AMAZING!!! Thanks Michael

Fun fact, those trees form naturally. In a windstorm a blow down can often land on another tree bending it over. A large branch from the bent tree will continue to grow upward towards the sun while the blow down and the now horizontal part of the tree rot away. The tree is left with a bent trunk. If a number of these trees are made in the same storm event they can often point in the same direction giving the illusion that they are pointing somewhere. They are nature made not man made. Native Americans carved notches in trees as markers. Today we paint blazes. But hey, I bet it was fun following the tree through the forest and exploring. Like a little adventure. brings back childhood memories and such.

@kriskabin

Жыл бұрын

You must be a Holocaust denier too.🙄 It's an unnaturally bent tree that pointed ppl to a shelter; it even had a visible ancient path! Fact: First Nations peoples were & are still here.

@AntiQris

11 ай бұрын

Many do yes. But what he’s talking about is legit and true.

@AntiQris

11 ай бұрын

@@kriskabinvery much still here even if I’m just a bit part.. I’m a lot that bit lol

@shable1436

11 ай бұрын

Tree's that old are all gone and dead just about, the life span of them doesn't add up

@AntiQris

11 ай бұрын

@@shable1436 add up to what? 1930s had folks using the trails. And behind the scenes of white world the Roman’s still play.

I'm sorry, but trees don't live that long. That tree might be 75 years old. It would never be as old as that rock shelter was when it was in use.

Ice storm of 94

Those trees are not near old enough to be indian trail markers

Those trees do not exist anymore. They would have to be from the 1820's at best. Logging has taken all of them out. The logging created the bent trees. I have some on my place from the 90's.

That entire forest is no more than 30 years old. See how skinny and spindly all the trees are? That’s because it’s been logged in the past couple decades just like pretty much every place in the US unless it’s protected. That tree isn’t more than 20 years. Lol. Native Americans where everywhere. Throw a rock and they were there. Good grief.

Ummm the tree in question is less than one hundred years old.

That tree is not old enough

To me it looks like a snake, i bet you it was a marking for that hole you had zoomed in on…. Looked like a good lil snake pit lol 😂 🐍 🪶

@cookingwiththeword5300

10 ай бұрын

could be

This happens naturally when a large branch of a tree is blown over in a storm and pushes over a sapling, as time passes the fallen tree or branch rots away leaving just what your showing us, that is a tree that grew around an obstruction!

@kriskabin

Жыл бұрын

😂 Oh, it's just a coincidence that it points directly to an old worn footpath & a natural shelter with evidence of campfire smoke on the ceiling.!. You must be a Holocaust denier too. 🙄

So, based upon what I have learned so far about trees and shelters, I can tell you that the trail marker tree you found there is probably about 100 years old based upon the size of that white oak. That being said, something that a lot of people don’t know is this… There are still a small number of people alive today that are descendants of different Native American tribes that still know what marker trees are and how to make them and for what purpose. Very few people know how to do this anymore. Some do though. They have to be taught by an elder that already knew how to make them. As for the rock shelter, which is what it is… Not a cave. The rock shelter has markings on it that probably give information about places and people that would’ve been nearby and what direction they were in. I couldn’t tell you without seeing all the petroglyphs up close, and seeing what direction they were pointing. This is what is known as a picture rock, story rock, or talking rock. You’ll find them all over the United States, and a lot of them are now hidden or worn, partially away by the elements. There was one on the piece of land I grew up on, but you could only make out a few of the characters. Some of them are thousands of years old. By the way, the rock shelter would’ve been about the size you would need for a scouting party or a small war party which would’ve been five or six people. The carvings were not done by children or aliens by the way, nobody would’ve gone to that much effort, unless it was important. You are correct in your assumption that the clearance underneath the shelter rock would’ve been deeper. Usually what they would’ve done was dig out underneath the rock ledge, but leave a little bit of a berm towards the edge to keep the rain and animals and prying eyes off of whoever was sheltering inside. During winter months, you could’ve stuffed leaves, or anything else up in the gap to insulate it more, but still allow the smoke from a fire to escape. We have things like this in the Carolinas where I live. I would look around more to see if there are other marker trees in the area because I would bet good money there are. If anyone wants to know more about marker trees, I recommend you go and look up Mountain stewards because they are currently recording marker trees all over the United States. mountainstewards.org/

@cookingwiththeword5300

7 ай бұрын

thank you for the info

@SherryONeill

4 ай бұрын

I Know A Tree Close By I am Submitting To Them 😊

Not likely old enough I would say its a property line tree possibly. Id guess that tree is 45-55 years max. Just my opinion. there are some big marker trees on my property but i still dont think they are old enough

1. That's not a Indian marker tree. Too young. 2. That's a rock overhang not a cave. 3. Nobody lived their entire lives under that overhang. 4. They are not carvings in that rock. natural erosion.

@whitneymacdonald4396

8 ай бұрын

Other than that, he nailed it.

Probably need an Archeologist at that spot👍🏽🪶

Dude just show the trail. I could care less about the brush. Just the specific bent trees, and where the trail leads to.

@Greysen_Reimer

7 ай бұрын

Chill out bro, your on KZread not tiktok,

2:33 Aw man…you had me until you mentioned ‘god’. I looked past the loss of audio every single time you turned away from the camera/microphone, (presenter must look at the viewer when speaking in front of a camera), but trying to promote superstition (religion) as the cause for the natural world is just too much. Anyway, have a great day.

Duh, they would pile stones because trees die...are you a botanist or a fairy tale...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_trees Some links for any who doubt y’all

@cookingwiththeword5300

7 ай бұрын

thank you

Would you just look at that...just look at it.

@clydea.murphy2219

5 ай бұрын

Some people just don't have an imagination, they must lead a soulful boring life!! lol