I don’t think a 1 minute fiat 500 race is a definitive answer to this question

@godzvnm7315

9 ай бұрын

what should happen to test which one is harder could be to go a track like daytona with an f1 car and a nascar and have the f1 driver in the nascar able to practice and have the nascar driver in the f1 car able to practice then after a couple of days the drivers should set a lap time in their respective car and see if the other driver can then beat that time or come anywhere close to it and then they should do the sane at either a road course in america or go to a track that f1 races at excluding cota, so they could maybe go somewhere like bahrain, austria, silverstone even and a few more tracks that they could choose from to defenitively answee the question of which one is harder.

@TurdFurgeson275

9 ай бұрын

F1 cope. But in all seriousness, I agree. This was definitely an exhibition. BUUUUT… NASCAR drivers are better in F1 than the other way around historically, and there’s nobody to prove otherwise :/

@CharizardMaster69

9 ай бұрын

the whole purpose of that event is that it’s the same car, the same course, the only big difference is the driver

@T3KFTW

9 ай бұрын

It definitely needs to be more drivers and maybe a few different cars

@tylermeehan6117

9 ай бұрын

@@CharizardMaster69but you could also argue it benefits the nascae driver more as they are used to driving cars with low down force whereas Michael Schumacher drove cars with ridiculous down force.

This is like grabbing messi and michael jordan and deciding wether basketball or football is better by having them box each other

@xXobama0Xx

6 ай бұрын

fr

@giovanni9065

6 ай бұрын

Lol

@_sansvisage

6 ай бұрын

that is soo accurate

@tayzonhannah

6 ай бұрын

On point lol

@VisaCashAppRb1

6 ай бұрын

its not even fair how are u saying nascar driver is better while have one turn

F1: Don't cross the white line NASCAR: Don't hit the wall Le Mans: Don't launch the car into the spectators Rally: Don't drive off the cliff Isle of Man TT: Don't die (optional) Dakar: Vehicular manslaughter of medical staff, competitors, and spectators is allowed but frowned upon for legal reasons

@littleweeb128

6 ай бұрын

optional XD

@daro9582

6 ай бұрын

Group B: EVERYONE WILL DIE!!! MAKE IT SPECTACULAR

@LionManatic

6 ай бұрын

NASCAR: Don't hit the wall Ross Chastain Martinsville 2022: "Bet." x^D

@wilbert_WX

6 ай бұрын

💀

@valentinotirone1760

6 ай бұрын

F1 in the 50s: End the race (optional)

Nascar drivers aint breaking from 300km/h to 40km/h in 2,3 seconds, the strain on the body in F1 is just next level

@scoobsshrooms109

2 ай бұрын

F1 drivers won’t drive 500 laps

@denisliber6740

Ай бұрын

​@@scoobsshrooms109g forces in f1 are close to fighter jet.. Nascar drivers necks wouldnt be able to do 15 laps in an f1 car...

@scoobsshrooms109

Ай бұрын

@@denisliber6740 fighter pilots deal with G forces double f1 drivers do, F1 at the highest G turn is 6 g’s, a lot for a car but for a jet that’s a wide turn, nascar drivers can handle it especially since they do during crashes and those happen a lot, of course they won’t be able to withstand it as well as a f1 driver, with time they would be doing training to withstand 6 g’s, just like f1 drivers do as well

@denisliber6740

Ай бұрын

@@scoobsshrooms109 no, they dont do double the forces... F1 goes to 6, fighter jet to 9 or 10 at the most...its one thing to be in a crash and another pulling 5 or 6 g every lap couple of times... F1 test drivers are having problems doing a whole race let alone nascar drivers...

@scoobsshrooms109

Ай бұрын

@@denisliber6740 fighter jets and pilots can go up to 15 g’s unrestricted, depends on the plane but even at air shows they will pull 12 G’s just for a cool maneuver

In the end we got the answer to absolutely nothing

@VisaCashAppRb1

8 ай бұрын

they could done better just put both in gt3 race

@ajstyles5704

7 ай бұрын

​@@VisaCashAppRb1not really, that's what makes it unique and good, you can put F1, Rally and Nascar in 3 Bugatti, 3 McLaren and 3 Subarus, you will 3 different winners, repeat the process on rally street, you will now have 6 different results, change to rainy conditions and you would have 9 different results total.

@sls12III

7 ай бұрын

​@@VisaCashAppRb1true

@samuelmcneill1120

5 ай бұрын

Because it’s an unanswerable question. It’ll always be down to opinion.

@Grooby__

4 ай бұрын

Welcome to KZread and KZread shorts. It's a norm now

Rally... not even open for debate. Fight me.

@petros5155

9 ай бұрын

As an f1 fan, I couldn't agree more

@Averageracingfan

9 ай бұрын

Yeah I agree with cementer4life its really hard to lando those pro 4 trucks or vw beetles after being in the air for like 5 seconds straight and then slamming back down onto the ground

@jobot9

9 ай бұрын

I have huge respect for rally drivers, the only right answer

@dienik512

9 ай бұрын

F1 takes precision and consistency, rally takes *balls.*

@cementer4life

9 ай бұрын

Don't get me wrong, any kind of motorsports is difficult, but trying to compare them is like comparing apples to oranges. They each have their own set of difficulties. That's what makes motorsports so wonderful

F1 track:⬆️↗️➡️↘️⬇️↙️↖️↙️↖️ NASCAR track:🔄

@Chieffam15

3 ай бұрын

That’s all you have to talk about lol

@CarolinaKingdom

3 ай бұрын

Plus NASCAR drivers fight g-forces too, the cars reach incredible temperatures too, not to mention NASCAR superspeedways require 100% focus as one bad block or one mistake can be life threatening. Both are difficult in their own ways, it’s like comparing Apples and Oranges.

@oxzak9093

2 ай бұрын

@@CarolinaKingdomstill ez mode compared to f1

@Lm-hm3kj

2 ай бұрын

F1 they have hella space in between cars while nascar is bumper to bumper the whole race

@Fizel133

2 ай бұрын

@@Lm-hm3kj and? I can say the same for F1 too. also that's why you goes in a good speed, not too fast not too slow

Group b: Go fast Don't die (optional)

@ghiffar_razzaki

5 ай бұрын

Not being a airplane (optional)

@zinddy

2 ай бұрын

Not burning (optional)

@billybobbibeau5121

Ай бұрын

DO NOT barrel roll into the crowd (please)

@kresimircosic9035

Ай бұрын

You realize IoMTT death rate is above and beyond Group B, and still active. No other motor sport can compare to it - I have no idea why it's allowed. A few years ago like 5-6 people died, among them dad and a son (simultaneously).

Group b trying so hard not to kill themselves or the viewers 💀💀

@Jamo_7811

8 ай бұрын

Walter Röhrl is the real GOAT

@VisaCashAppRb1

8 ай бұрын

isle of man 💀💀💀💀

@SoI_Badguy

7 ай бұрын

Group B hasn't existed for like 30 years

@shivanshsingh284

7 ай бұрын

​@@SoI_Badguy There's a reason for that

@maxophone5218

7 ай бұрын

yeah but where’s group b at now?

I don’t think you can compare them cause they’re both challenging in there own ways

@CCSRacing1808

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, NASCAR is harder in terms of close racing, F1 is harder for the course

@Nascarfanchris99

9 ай бұрын

I respect this comment

@LH44EVER

9 ай бұрын

its like comparing a unicycle to a fighter jet

@Nascarfanchris99

9 ай бұрын

@marioanimates1576 each motorsport has there challenges

@Theproboscismonkey13

9 ай бұрын

That's why I think Indy is the most challenging because going from the streets of Detroit to Iowa speedway is a difference

Only Americans can claim that a 1 minute race in a fiat answered this question.

@christopherjones8149

6 ай бұрын

American here, that "race" was bullshit. If both drivers are in the same car, why the heck did they put them on different tracks????( Nascar also drives on road courses)

@samybreitler176

6 ай бұрын

@@christopherjones8149 just to clarify I didn’t mean „all Americans“ but there’s like 330 million of you and 40% are „extremely patriotic. And 30% are children or elders. So of the 70% of Americans that are adults there are 40% who are statistically seen as blindly patriotic and that’s like 40million people minus baby boomers and the oldest generation X members probably more around 28 million and of those there’s gonna be like 60% who have an IQ close to 85 leaving a potential 17 million keyboard warriors who are blindly patriotic and and are considered stupid IQ wise.

@christopherjones8149

6 ай бұрын

@@samybreitler176 thanks for the clarification, I happen to know a few Americans that are considered stupid IQ wise 🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👍

@blaisemichael7872

5 ай бұрын

​@@samybreitler176I don't understand your names. Can you please convert that to bald eagles for me? Also, you have to yell. Got some Skynyrd going right now

@YSF_B28

5 ай бұрын

Also the downloaded is completely different, f1 has extremely high downloaded, Nascar doesn't have as extreme downforce

I don’t get why people can’t admit that both are really fucking hard in their own right

@kyleacutt6452

2 ай бұрын

No they're not you American stop being biased for once💀

@tylerhardie6984

2 ай бұрын

@@kyleacutt6452No one is being biased? Because they are both hard in different ways..

@timodaniels

2 ай бұрын

@@kyleacutt6452 the best thing about you being wrong is, that I am German. And I love F1, WRC, WEC and I regularly visit the Nürburgring. Now you stating that racing at 300-340 kph for hours isn’t hard just shows how little you know about racing and the fact that you have zero track experience. Driving that fast in itself is hard over a long time, but doing that in close proximity with other drivers is even harder. Yes cornering Gs may be lower but that don’t mean it ain’t hard.

@icantsleepman

2 ай бұрын

Yea they both are hard in their own right, I am 100% convinced however it takes much more effort to be proficient at F1 than to be proficient at Nascar

@tylerhardie6984

2 ай бұрын

@@icantsleepman that’s because in F1 there is only 22 positions and is more competitive plus your going into a vehicle that goes 233 miles per hour. While in Nascar they have up to 40 people in a race 40 which is basically double what F1 has.

also that fiat 500 is not a “neutral” car, it’s a front wheel drive street car with a very short wheelbase and no downforce. It favors stock car/touring car/rallycross racers

@BackroadBender

8 ай бұрын

Literally the worst car with Schumacher's driving style

@nation0165

8 ай бұрын

@@BackroadBender Schumacher used to be an endurance racer, Stijin Paspont's documentary is really good.

@BackroadBender

8 ай бұрын

@@nation0165 yes

@S0M3-R4ND0M-GUY

8 ай бұрын

"uhm actually its an abarth" 🤓☝

@drumnbasssakuga9352

8 ай бұрын

@@nation0165 endurance prototypes and even gt cars still have way more grip and less weight than NASCAR stock cars.

*laughs in Isle of Man*

@minenhledlamini334

8 ай бұрын

That’s a death trap

@zgct2431

8 ай бұрын

Laughs in rally

@niftynaoh07

8 ай бұрын

@@zgct2431nah isle of man is a lot harder then rally

@IsItTobz

8 ай бұрын

​@@zgct2431rally you have safety isle of man is content going over 200kmh on skiny roads on a bike

@ilanlaham6911

8 ай бұрын

The organizers after seeing someone survive a crash: *"What- Are you still alive? You're joking. You've got to be kidding me."*

I’ve seen f1 drivers switch to nascar but never seen a nascar driver make it to f1 Edit: For anyone trying to make the point that nascar is more difficult than F1 it’s not. I’m not saying nascar is easy but F1 is on a whole different level. Left turns compared to a complex circuit 😂

@Cain35

6 ай бұрын

😮

@themolasser9110

6 ай бұрын

F1 has a 20 car field and only two cars per team, meanwhile nascar has a 40+ field with many mid pack teams with multiple cars. So getting a ride in nascar is easier than getting a ride in f1. Also no f1 driver has been successful in nascar

@frijolblanco

6 ай бұрын

F1 requires a special license, known as a Super License. To qualify for the license you need to race in F3 and F2 and accumulate the points required to get to F1. Nascar doesn't require any special license, which is why F1 drivers can get into Nascar so easily

@LukeTheSheppy

6 ай бұрын

@@themolasser9110 Juan Pablo Montoya?

@zesolodar

6 ай бұрын

not a surprise 20 seats vs 40 plus seats, with nascar there is no bs like a super license and their are plenty of low level teams that would give an f1 driver a chance to boost their profile. what you said has no bearing on whats tougher. and i will add most f1 drivers that have shifted to nascar have done awful

Are we gonna ignore the fact that schumacher got given the line with turns while carl just went outside

@mother-of-all-things-esc

5 ай бұрын

No, he didn't. There was a bridge at the end of the turns giving Michael the oval, Carl got turns in the second half of the track.

@blockofcheese8015

2 ай бұрын

@@mother-of-all-things-escreally? I actually thought they gave Carl the oval and Schumacher the road course as a jokingly obvious bias

@scoobsshrooms109

2 ай бұрын

@@blockofcheese8015they both raced both tracks. They start opposite of eachother and complete 1 lap on each side, 2 laps total.

@LeTangKichiro

26 күн бұрын

And this is how fake news is spread. 105 people now think that Edwards was favoured over Schumacher even though they have never watched a Race of Champions event in their life and they have never seen how that track looks. It takes you literally a minute on KZread or Google to find out that both cars race on both courses in order to have an equal race. Here, it is still benign because at the end, who cares? Right? But politics or science? This is why our world is more and more divided and goes downhill. Because peopoe get riled up by wrong info. So let this be a reminder. Do your research and only open your mouth when something useful comes out of it. Otherwise, be quiet and research!

Schumacher in an abarth 500 is kinda hilarious

@stigrabbid589

9 ай бұрын

He had been in a bunch of Fiat ads back when he drove for Ferrari so it kinda makes sense.

@berk6775

8 ай бұрын

​​@@stigrabbid589its not an ad its from race of champions

@AverageJoe777

8 ай бұрын

Im pretty sure Schumacher’s daily car of choice back then was the fiat 500.

@Bearded_Drone

8 ай бұрын

He had the air conditioning on.

@greenthumb6971

8 ай бұрын

@@AverageJoe777 and the Fiat Croma when he revealed himself as the Stig

Ask Juan Pablo Montoya. He is the only driver in the last thirty years to win races in both F1 and NASCAR. He could even tell you how Indy cars compare, having won in those as well, including two Indy 500's in two different types of Indy car. He could also tell you how the Daytona prototypes handle, having been part of the team that won the 24 Hours of Daytona, and he could tell you about winning his class at the 24 Hours of LeMans too. Just a thought.

@MICKEY-LOGANO

5 ай бұрын

Same with Kimi Räikkönen. He drove in nascar in the early 2010’s and he also did a couple of one off’s in ‘22 & ‘23.

@hdjono3351

4 ай бұрын

That’s insanse

@bakes7423

4 ай бұрын

Yea let me just give him a call real quick

@Hennessey556

4 ай бұрын

@@bakes7423what did he say

@bakes7423

4 ай бұрын

@@Hennessey556 “who are you and how did you get my number”

Typical opinion of a nascar fan

@rcguy902

5 ай бұрын

F1 is lame sissy racing

@mEmEzMaN...

3 ай бұрын

​@rcguy902 biased nascar fan spotted

@240bear8

2 ай бұрын

Damn here I am liking them both

@gooldenpug-yd1tp

Ай бұрын

@@240bear8 Same even though there is no neutral.😂

Which is more challenging? Just ask someone who’s driven both cars: Juan Pablo Montoya. In Season 18 Episode 2 of Top Gear, in which Richard Hammond examined NASCAR history and culture, Montoya had this to say: “To drive, nothing drives like a Formula 1 car. But these cars are more unpredictable. They slide a lot more. They have no brakes. And when I say no brakes…because, the cars are so heavy and the brakes are so tiny.”

@LemonHooman

Ай бұрын

I like this comment. It's someone who knows what they're talking about. Nascar and F1 are 2 completely different disciplines and each require their own set of skills. It's like putting TaeKwonDo against BJJ and telling them to only throw hands for 15 rounds. Neither one is gonna be adept at it so the argument is useless since TKD is 98% kicks with little to no focus on punching, and BJJ is a grappling sport. Nascar is tough in its own ways, and so is F1. Debate settled.

definitely f1, the g forces are insane and there are so many turns

@mf_49

9 ай бұрын

I'd say something about NASCAR drivers not knowing how to tyrn right, but now there are so nany road courses on the calendar i can't😭

@randijochanthavong3454

9 ай бұрын

No gt worst of both high g,s with hot cockpit

@G_PTYNicolasCMP

9 ай бұрын

Ryan Preece: meh i can do better

@Sparklingtube

9 ай бұрын

@@randijochanthavong3454bruh f1 suits are hot asf

@Ian4bis

9 ай бұрын

@@Sparklingtubeyou do realize gt drivers wear nearly identical suits to f1 right? They are not special suits you can literally buy f1 suits

Rally enters the chat.

@eggrolls_good

8 ай бұрын

Nah mario cart

@Venton25

8 ай бұрын

TT and world enduro Championship enter the chat

@MoaiHeadEmoji

8 ай бұрын

Motogp, motocross, and enduro enters the chat and laughs

@h0udinl

8 ай бұрын

@@MoaiHeadEmojipiss easy you have so much more control of a bike

@MoaiHeadEmoji

8 ай бұрын

@@h0udinl thats stupid and wrong but i forgot to add freestyle moto so thanks for the noti

A true motorsport enthusiast will never compare the different classes of races.

if they raced in the same circuit that would've been MAYBE fair

Mario Andretti (having once raced in NASCAR as well as F1) once said both are hard in their own way, as each requires a different set of skills.

@Aj-xv5mn

2 ай бұрын

this was also back in the 60s and 70s a completely different time

@scoobsshrooms109

2 ай бұрын

@@Aj-xv5mnstill applies today

@MainMite06

Ай бұрын

Reminder: Mario raced in Nascar before F1!

If you swapped the grids, both series would put down MUCH slower times in each other's cars because they're just incomparable. Totally different focuses

@markjackson2652

8 ай бұрын

If you switched grid the NASCAR drivers would probably crash and die tbh

@bastienhubert283

8 ай бұрын

If you Switch the gris half of thé NASCAR Guy can't enter in a f1

@drumnbasssakuga9352

8 ай бұрын

@@markjackson2652 I genuinely think the top 10 or so NASCAR Cup drivers could do decent in F1 if they could train and race with a good car. There are multiple F1 drivers who are pretty bad like Logan Sargeant

@The-fs5wn

8 ай бұрын

F1 cars go up to 200 mph, and they will be able to reach and maintain that top speed while taking the shortest route possible. They won’t need to apex the turns because they can just follow the bottom the whole way at 15 mph faster than the NASCAR stock cars. They have well over double the lateral grip.

@drumnbasssakuga9352

8 ай бұрын

@@The-fs5wn they’d be faster than NASCAR cars on an oval but they wouldn’t just be able to take the inside the whole way around 😂 indycars can’t do that and they’re higher speed than f1 cars on an oval. f1 cars have too much drag to reach indycar speeds and times around any oval aside from a short track. they’d need to make a low downforce kit for ovals

Toss an f1 driver into a nascar race and a nascar driver into a f1 race. Maybe conduct the experiment a couple times and take their answers and display them

They are not comparable, it like asking someone, ”which is harder: basketball or football?” There’s no answer

They're probably equally as challenging, but they apply to different aspects of racing. This is like taking a master in Tae Kwon Do and Karate and having them wrestle.

@victorykingpin3674

8 ай бұрын

EXACTLY, just because they're racing, that doesn't mean *they're the same thing*, it's 2 completely different things, Nascar is like a 190 mph test of who can keep from getting spun and put into the wall constantly for 3 hours, F1 is more who can have the instinct and skill to brake the latest, not collide with another car, know when to put the power down, throttle control, and of course who gets the best car, (but we won't talk ab that), it's 2 COMPLETELY different sides of motorsport, save for the fact they're on tarmac

@Anon24052

8 ай бұрын

And it’s the same as saying a rally driver or a motorcycle racer is better as well- it’s just different and needs different skills.

@valonksv3684

8 ай бұрын

Nascar driver couldnt even brake in an f1 car

@user-jv7se6ft9t

7 ай бұрын

​@@victorykingpin3674you forgot to add that f1 race takes almost same time as nascar

@TheOfficialRandomGuy

4 ай бұрын

⁠@@valonksv3684that’s like saying an F1 driver wouldn’t know how to use a clutch in a Cup car.

It's like trying to compare golf and disc golf. Two completely different sports.

@willkirkman-hx3zr

9 ай бұрын

Agree

@user-by4ko9tr9d

9 ай бұрын

Or boxing and mma

@jah5r

8 ай бұрын

I’d say golf to hockey.

@maxmcbeain

8 ай бұрын

@@jah5r the reason I said disc golf and golf is because they are similar sports with similar goals, Like f1 and NASCAR whose goals are to be fast and come in first. Golf and hockey aren't really similar in that way.

@Fonetiker

8 ай бұрын

What to choose, watching a tumbledryer or precision handcraft.

That's not the only time a NASCAR driver has beaten an F1 driver on a race track.

both are hard in their own ways, both cockpits get unbelievably hot, both require constant concentration

Well Alonso was 4 seconds faster than Jimmy Johnson in a Nascar in Bahrain.

@Jamo_7811

8 ай бұрын

Alonso is the shitbox whisperer

@LBNMKRS118

8 ай бұрын

Alonso beat Schumi twice. He is that good.

@paperplane-db8qf

8 ай бұрын

@@LBNMKRS118and Schumacher beat Slonso from 2000 to 2004

@jackcatman8932

7 ай бұрын

@@paperplane-db8qfAlonso didn’t race in 2000 and 2002.

@Anishnaabe425

7 ай бұрын

Alsono raced in Nascar?

Bro literally showed an Indy car highlight at the beginning

@katherineellis7903

7 ай бұрын

Indy car and f1 are the same sport one is across the us while f1 is international

@chadmithoff3110

7 ай бұрын

@@katherineellis7903 I mean it's completely different but if that's the fantasy you live in that's cool.

@LoganMcneeseRacing88

7 ай бұрын

Sorry that was my son to him it's basically the same he also has autism so to you, it may not make sense but to him it does. It's not about living in a fantasy. In his autistic mind it's the same idea for the race and how it works though speed and focus and everything may be different

We should swap the roles f1 does nascar things nascar does f1 things

What should have been done is have the nascar diver drive an f1 car, and the f1 driver drives a nascar on tracks that have relatively similar average times

The most challenging motorsport in general is Australian V8 Supercas. I can't be bothered to explain why because Driver61 allready made a video on it

@nathanwicklund8395

9 ай бұрын

Shane van gisbergen literally said that they’re running the courses at 40% because the cars are dogshit. No way it’s the most challenging

@user-by4ko9tr9d

9 ай бұрын

Maybe moto gp??

@danielolah1116

9 ай бұрын

Nah i agree, V8 supercars is absolutely mad, crazy how they keep those cars straight

@drumnbasssakuga9352

9 ай бұрын

I don’t really know why people actually think those are the hardest to drive when NASCAR cars have all the same constraints as them, and are not considered particularly hard to drive on a road course. minimal downforce, no traction control/abs, very heavy, v8s with massive torque. nascar even does a race (Coca-Cola 600) during the season that’s almost as long as the Bathurst 1000, and each driver does that ENTIRE RACE by themselves.

@amroge8703

9 ай бұрын

Wrc

This is like asking which is harder: piano or guitar. Both are highly specialized but if you learn one the other is going to be slightly easier in the beginning.

Should have had them drive each other's car and see how close they can get to their lap time

In Schumacher’s defence, he is used to racing cars with a lot more downforce, while Edward’s is more used to less stable cars. And I feel like F1 drivers wear out sooner than NASCAR drivers, which is why most F1 driver don’t stay in the sport past their late 30s. I suggest a similar race in on a bigger track with a faster car between two drivers who have an idea of the other’s usual race car. I recommend Jimmie Johnson and Fernando Alonso. That said, Group B probably had it the toughest.

Opens NASCAR v F1 discussion with an awesome IndyCar save 😂

Nascar is the definition of " Cars driving in circles "

@Mozzzler

8 ай бұрын

While murdering eachother, I only like Nascar for the crashes

@bulletproof4716

7 ай бұрын

You do know Nascar has road courses

@gswizzy17

7 ай бұрын

I love how your username is “f1 fan” and you think you can speak on behalf of nascar

@DoritoDoritio

7 ай бұрын

said by a f1 fan

@ErwinLiszkowicz

7 ай бұрын

@@bulletproof4716 And whenever they go to a road course they make absolute fools out of themselves.

I think it’s unfair because a f1 car is so much different than a fiat and a nascar car is more similar

Thats why Mcqueen beat Francesco

There is a reason why multiple f1 drivers become nascar drivers but not the other way around

@sigmundferd1359

7 ай бұрын

Its even worse than that, multiple old and past prime F1 drivers do Nascar for fun. Obviously Nascar drivers are professional athletes and are incredibly skilled..... but there are levels. It's like trying to compare Draymon Green and LeBron. It's not an insult to say Green is nowhere near LeBron, it's just a fact. Doesn't mean Green is bad, just shows how good LeBron is.

@jamham69

7 ай бұрын

@@sigmundferd1359 NASCAR and INDY represent peak american motorsport. INDY is literally a feeder league to F1. Noone who can cut it in F1 would ever go anywhere else.

@by-wi-fas8765

7 ай бұрын

No Only a very select few over the past 75 years have and they have never been championship contenders in a stock car. They are just two extremely different motorsports...

@sigmundferd1359

7 ай бұрын

@@by-wi-fas8765 answer me this good sir.... how many F1 drivers who tried to get into Nascar have ever been turned down?

@youraveragegamer8832

7 ай бұрын

​@@jamham69Disagree with this one. For circuit racing, mostly true. But there is plenty of road car fans such as myself. I find it more fun when road-legal cars are pushed to their limit, like in rally

Kimi Raikkonen raced Nascar at one race, did incredibly well before getting taken out, and that was his first ever nascar race, I don't know a single nascar champion who would do that in their first F1 race

@TurboWheeler

6 ай бұрын

Kimi came back for a few more races in the past 2 seasons and unfortunately the same thing happened.

They should have a NASCAR champ drive an f1 car and a f1 champ drive a NASCAR and have them decide which is harder. And I think NASCAR on a road course would be the hardest

It’s like saying we have Michael Phelps and a fish competing today but instead of in water we’re going to see who can swim the fastest in molasses

F1 is competitive, but there are a few more competitive series like V8 Supercars and Rallycars. Specifically WRC. The V8s are basically stock cars on a F1 track. And WRC is a sport where you need to be PERFECT to win. There are no walls, no safety procedures, if you make a mistake you're flipping into a tree or off a mountain.

Carl Edwards was one of the best NASCAR driver in the 2000s, Schumacher was only a F1 driver, who never raced NASCAR. Edwards won, because the normal sportcars, that they raced are more closer to a NASCAR car, than a F1 car.

@a1b1c184

6 ай бұрын

I don't think anyone who knows anything about racing thinks less of Schumacher because Edwards beat him. You're exactly correct about the car being much closer to what Edwards is use to driving. It would have been weird if Edwards didn't beat him.

@a1b1c184

4 ай бұрын

@@Thatoldpringle And Edwards won because he has experience racing those kinds of vehicles. It doesn't lessen anything for anyone it's just a fact and an interesting observation. It's odd you see every statement as a criticism or endorsement.

If Schumacher was on the NASCAR track, he'd probably win as his track was not straight. It was twists and turns and Carl Edwards had the straight line, making it incredibly unfair

if you really think nascar is harder,then i totally understand why you are watching nascar.

@nolife7473

6 ай бұрын

EXACTLY 😂

@rcguy902

5 ай бұрын

Yeah f1 is so great 5 seconds ahead is a close finish Same guy winning every race No contact

@CarolinaKingdom

3 ай бұрын

NASCAR drivers fight g-forces too, the cars reach incredible temperatures too, not to mention NASCAR superspeedways require 100% focus due to the close intense racing (again, like F1) as one bad block or one mistake can be life threatening. Both are difficult in their own ways, it’s like comparing Apples and Oranges

@grasstocher1234

Ай бұрын

​@@rcguy902welcome to f1 we have: A guy who would win 22 races The same guy winning pole The same guy with fastest lap The same guy with a 6 second gap over second place finisher The same guys teammate winning the other races The same guy winning championships consecutively

Rally: “Who the hell are you?”

@IsItTobz

8 ай бұрын

Id have to admit rally is nothing but its not compared to Le Mans or even Isle of Mans

@fekna4263

8 ай бұрын

true

F1 is like Chess, NASCAR is like Uno. You need skills to win them in their own way.

@leecline5759

6 ай бұрын

This is a bad analogy. It's more doing the same job with different tools.

@oLawlieto

6 ай бұрын

@@leecline5759 It's like comparing sprinting and marathon, one sport you drive as fast as you can at all times and the other is an endurance race.

@apex_blue

6 ай бұрын

@@oLawlietono that’s like F1 vs Le mans. A better analogy is a 100 meter dash with rules vs a 400 meter dash with no rules.

@oLawlieto

6 ай бұрын

@@apex_blue that's actually a better comparison but NASCAR still lean more towards endurance racing than most other race series with it's races being a race distance of 400 miles on avg and lasting on avg 3 hours with the shortest being 90 min if nothing goes wrong and the longest being upwards of 6 hours (I couldn't find any rule that said there was a time limit). F1 is 190 miles minimum and take on avg 90min with a hard cut-off at 2h race time + 1 lap or 3h event time which ever comes first.

@BaBaDoo0

6 ай бұрын

Dude nascar is not even on the same Lvl is way lower shjt

Juan Pablo Montoya won races in Nascar well out of his prime. That settles the question really.

@rubberbabybuggybumper6270

6 ай бұрын

Lmao. 2 wins in 9 years. The guy that took his place after he retired wins more than 4 races per season.

@gswizzy17

Ай бұрын

Are you kidding? Montoya won more races in his 2005 f1 season than his entire nascar career. He then went to IndyCar and finished 2nd in the Championship. This is one of the worst reasons I’ve heard

If the F1 driver had won the legitimacy of the race wouldn't have been questioned in the slightest

What an incredibly cherry-picked example lol. If you go by Race of Champions results, rally drivers probably have the edge.

@TheOfficialRandomGuy

4 ай бұрын

But the debate is which is harder out of NASCAR or F1.

they’re equally hard in their own ways

The hardest motorsport is all of them. It's not easy driving a race car between 100 and 220 mph on some of the toughest tracks that have you side by side in a huge pack on the verge of being wrecked, racing on high banks of a short track, going through some of the tightest corners on road courses, battling on a small 1 grove banked mile, or slugging it out on a dirt course where fenders and tempers can fly off. Driving a race car is hard in general as each series, car, and track is different. It comes down to what are the most challenging things to racing, and then you will find your answer.

There’s much more strategy that comes into F1 but in nascar it’s just a circle of trying not to die

@grasstocher1234

Ай бұрын

There are 6 road course races in nascar

As a NASCAR fan, F1 is a totally different animal to pretty much any other racing series. It's less racing cars and more racing jet planes that are velcroed to Earth. It requires a much different skillset than many other disciplines, which is why I think Edwards, a mid to high tier NASCAR driver, was able to best Schumacher in that race. The ROC car is much closer to what Cousin Carl is used to racing, whereas there's basically nothing in common between the ROC cars and an F1 machine. Both are very technical and everyone who races professionally is a better driver in their sleep than I could ever be, but they both have qualities that make it hard for a head to head comparison.

@c0d3warrior

8 ай бұрын

As an F1 fan I second your take 100%. Also Nascar side-drafting duells at 200 mph are quite enjoyable to watch, ngl. Or multiple-lane fights through corners. Simply impressive that the drivers can pull off that precision with a such loose low down-force cars. And the recent participation of a modified Nascar in the 24h of Le Mans was kind of special, too. 😊

@sw120

7 ай бұрын

@@c0d3warrior why can't all f1 fans be like you. Much respect 🫡

@GAT0SY

6 ай бұрын

​@@sw120those who aren't just make more noise.

Funny how people here in the comments keep yelling "F1!" "Nascar" "Rally!" Every single championship is highly challenging in its own way. In F1 you gotta be a surgeon in every lap to be as fast as possible every lap while managing tyre temp and degradation, fuel and a perfect strategy between pit and driver. In Nascar you are battling for hours every single lap, the tension is insane, strategy is important as well but the driver gotta know when and where to take his chance. In rally you basically have to be the fastest in every single condition to be called "world champion". Stop debating on these useless stuff making stories out of nothing and just be a huge petrolheads community for once.

@tylerhardie6984

2 ай бұрын

Great comment! I agree with this comparing different Motorsports in which is harder is stupidest thing ever lmfao.

Without the slightest doubt whatsoever the most Challenging Motorsport in the World is the WRC. That's in another level of sheer skill in Control of a Race car.

Rally takes the cake, mfs got balls of steel and some serious skill

Its like apples and oranges, ya can't compare the two.

There really is no way of comparing them. Each have their own unique characteristics

Save yourself 60 seconds, he doesn’t answer the question

A i minute race between just 2 drivers only proves which of those 2 at that moment in those 2 cars was performing better at that moment. The same with any comparison.

f1 cockpits it can get up 150F normally around 140

@lebronjames-lb8j

9 ай бұрын

hi f1 cockpits it can get up 150F normally around 140, im dad

@mattmumford430

9 ай бұрын

NASCAR reaches around at temperature between 130 and 160 they have to sustain that for a longer amount of time

@benc.3128

8 ай бұрын

@@mattmumford430so similar in terms of temps, but less g forces, less complicated tracks Yeah nascar sounds easier

@MnDogman

8 ай бұрын

@@lebronjames-lb8j lmao auto correct but I’m idk why

@lebronjames-lb8j

8 ай бұрын

@@MnDogman lol dont take it seriously 💀

They aren't really neutral cars as the fiat has closer levels of down force to a NASCAR than an f1 car which would actually mean that the knowledge and experience of the NASCAR driver would give him an advantage in terms of the racing lines

let’s put a gamer and a navy seal in a soccer match to prove which ones better ahh logic😂

"Mikel Schmacker" 😂😂 (im sorry but its just hilarious😂😂)

Both disciplines have their merits, like you said F1 is about precision, NASCAR is more about wheel to wheel battles, personally I respect both, I'm not going to choose one over the other

I think both of them have their own challenges.

@TheOfficialRandomGuy

4 ай бұрын

Best answer. I enjoy them both.

The funny thing is that on a debut for nascar Shane van gisbergen won the race by a lot… so I think that the real motorsport to watch is supercars, problem is, all the races are at night in the northern hemisphere

The best way to confirm is to get a NASCAR and F1 driver to compete in a race in the respective motorsport.

The Australian V8 Supercars is the hardest, not only do they race on incredible tracks but they are also hard to drive and especially due to there short wheelbases it makes them hard to drive. On top of that you also have to try not crash and also rules are much more strict, and especially when the best race of the season is the Bathurst 1000, give it a watch! It’s extremely entertaining!

@Birdyflys-tt9gm

9 ай бұрын

Oh Boy im excited for Bathurst

@hy7968

9 ай бұрын

Driving a 1000hp formula 1 car with no driver aids like abs or traction control is way harder.

@theojohn574

9 ай бұрын

I think isle of man is the most difficult

@Birdyflys-tt9gm

9 ай бұрын

@@theojohn574 that’s Moto GP yeh?

@josephhutchins8

9 ай бұрын

@@hy7968F1 cars are light, have tones of downforce, extremely wide tyres and limited slip diffs V8 Supercars are boats, not a lot of downforce, the tyres are only a bit wider than street tyres and the rear diffs are always locked

Anyone that thinks Nascar is easy knows nothing about stock car racing

It's so fun and exciting being an F1 fan, I just love knowing who the champion will be two races into the season.

One is a car, the other is a jet

Im an American and like most Americans was a nascar fan at first, but then I switched to formula one. For a long time I despised nascar for years but over the past year after getting into touch with the online nascar community I’ve realized the beauty of it all again. It’s a style that’s challenging in its own way. That’s why motor racing is such a beautiful sport. It can be done in so many ways. Also RawGator is the goat for explaining the differences in a non-bias way and even bringing the Schumacher vs Edwards comparison in

Carl Edward's just a beast

Nascars are like driving bricks. F1 is driving a precision knife. Two complete opposites

A fair way to measure it would be something like this: Each driver sets a benchmark lap time in their own car. Then, both drivers swap cars and put in a set number of laps at their maximum pace. Whoever gets closer or beats the other’s time by the end is the winner.

NASCAR///: just 400 laps in a oval

@Mozzzler

8 ай бұрын

and crashes

@HomelessWalterman9861

7 ай бұрын

@@Mozzzler e x a c t l y.

@TurboWheeler

6 ай бұрын

Plus multiple road courses in their 3 main series every year.

@krispykrackers8826

4 ай бұрын

Ignorant, they have road courses

@grasstocher1234

Ай бұрын

F1:4 hours of seeing the same people at their same position without much action

Rally drivers be like: "cute... Real cute"

@xxxYYZxxx

6 ай бұрын

Pro Rally driver and NASCAR drop-out Travis Pastrana would like to have a world with you.

I believe they are both challenging in their own way, making each sport valid nonetheless

Mind you. They had a rematch, and Schumacher won. So thats not a good way to gage which is better

“I assume Schumacher mad a small mistake somewhere “ the guy announcing is so baffled that Carl Edward’s the nascar guy is beating the f1 guy Schumacher even said Carl flat out beat him

@TheBanshee90

9 ай бұрын

If anything Carl Edward's is at advantage in a stock 500 over Schumacher. Nascar deal with the shortcoming of racing "stock cars." Such as less than ideal downforce and weight distribution. Smart money would be on call Edward's on a short track.

@rocklobstah8824

9 ай бұрын

@@TheBanshee90 good point

@graduatestev

9 ай бұрын

@@TheBanshee90 Bro they're literally racing on different tracks, it was a measure of which was faster to complete a loop which is obviously Nascar because they have less corners which are much faster than F1 corners

@OwnedByUno

8 ай бұрын

Bro Carl Edward's wins are more valuable than the whole f1 franchise

@90enemies

8 ай бұрын

​@@OwnedByUnoCarl who?

Well I’m already subbed so I think it’s safe to say nascars my thing

"nascar or f1" starts the video off with Indycar

i don’t think you can compere them like this…just very different but i’m very confident in saying that F1 has better/more talented drivers

Im already subscribed though

It’s like comparing a bare knuckle fist fight to fencing

"Which is harder, med school or law school? To decide, we gave a dirt bike to a lawyer and a car to a doctor and had them do a demolition derby."

This is like grabbing Pessi and Micheal Jordan and making them box to decide which sport is better when it’s obviously football

Nascar is verses everyone f1 is verses yourself

@user-by4ko9tr9d

9 ай бұрын

In verstappen case… yes

Indycar, an even mix of road, street, and oval racing. Next I would say Rally

@103racingnetwork

9 ай бұрын

​@@jordanfires9777Indycar is faster no power steering or power breaks

@benson_weaver

9 ай бұрын

​@@103racingnetworknascar has less aerodynamic and mechanical grip. Both are great

They are challenging in their own way I think is the best answer to this.

Montoya said NASCAR was the hardest out of anything he drove, soooo