now, that's touching: the nameless king's fighting style is a mix of his best friend's and his father's

@estebanfranco10

2 ай бұрын

I think his best friend was a "faithful first knight" (who could be Solaire idk) and then second Ornstein, because Ornstain instead was serving both Nameless king and this "faithful first knight". But yeah it makes sense that he could fight like Ornstein too Im basing myself in the "Sacred Oath" description from ds3

@themanthemyth4522

2 ай бұрын

Well, that's how a martial art works.

@riksfaltohuraker4276

2 ай бұрын

@@estebanfranco10 i thought about it at first too but actually i dont think solaire was a dragonslayer

@krisonveloc25

2 ай бұрын

​@estebanfranco10 solaire is never a dragonslayer nor God kind, he just a human warrior of sunlight, I don't think nameless king or even God kind acknowledged him

@misterhyde2817

2 ай бұрын

@@themanthemyth4522 actually, my theory is about the dragon slayer spear it was originally not orsteins rather than the nameless kings first spear

This is my first time seeing Nameless' statue restored in original DS1. He looks completely different, more like a young squire rather than somebody who could really betray his kingdom. He also started using his dad's shampoo after banishment, apparently. Edit: I just wanted to emend and correct myself - I meant he does not look like betrayer, not that I believed in him being one. Cheers.

@nicholasmorgan7609

2 ай бұрын

Betray is a strong word. The people he "betrayed" were mostly power hungry gods and used his willingness to work with the evolving dragons as an excuse to banish him and seize power for themselves. Allying the dragons, rather than continuing the stagnant ways of Gwyn and his ilk may have potentially seen some benefit *for* his kingdom.

@kamilmalach6383

2 ай бұрын

​@@nicholasmorgan7609 You're right. I was just expecting something more sinister or maybe another connection to something we already know. Instead there's a boy and I think it's actually better than warrior statue. I wonder how original story changed between DS1 and DS3.

@wjr4700

2 ай бұрын

@@nicholasmorgan7609 still a betrayal. not sure what youre on about.

@theodorsebastian4272

2 ай бұрын

@@nicholasmorgan7609Turning his back on the people he fought alongside with all his life,Who bled alongside him for the enemy. If the gods and the knights hate him it would only be natural If he didn’t fancy the dragons over his own people he could have taken charge of the Kingdom after Gwyn linked the fire and do good to the world

@nicholasmorgan7609

2 ай бұрын

@@theodorsebastian4272 Ah yes, "good", unnaturally attempting to extend the age of fire, the age of the gods, sacrificing humanity to wallow in their sterility, rather than adapt and evolve as the next age came, as the dragons did when their age ended.

Not once in dark souls has the player ever witnessed true sunlight magic/miracles. Gwyn didn’t even use it in 1. All player cast miracles are just imitations used by reciting stories of sunlight magic. It wasn’t until dark souls 3 do we see sunlight magic used by the Nameless King. It’s no wonder he’s so powerful/difficult to fight.

@Diobrando-no1wy

2 ай бұрын

1.05 patch save us!

@marschallblucher6197

2 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure Gwyn does use sunlight spear in his moveset. It's just very rare and only at a distance. Most players fight him up close and if you are far away from him he usually prefers to use his long range jump attack.

@cheeseballs427

2 ай бұрын

What's the deal with gael's blue lightning though is my question.

@JMAN_

2 ай бұрын

​@@cheeseballs427I feel like it's natural lighting, so it's not summoned from Faith, thus not yellow

@entityuntombed

2 ай бұрын

@@JMAN_ yeah imo its like how a super saiyan 2 has lightning. Its a symbol of immense power.

Dude that moment I realized the nameless king was gwyn’s first born… not many things compare to it. It was on the same level of finding out anor londo is a lie.

@ihavenomindandimustthink

2 ай бұрын

Same with patches being the furtive pygmy.

@jairocolombo4410

2 ай бұрын

​@@ihavenomindandimustthink what patches changes in the lore?

@Perditions

2 ай бұрын

​@@ihavenomindandimustthink wut? !

@Le_Klaigg

2 ай бұрын

Wdym Anor Londo is a lie?

@SaberRexZealot

2 ай бұрын

@@Le_Klaigg oh you sweet summer child. It’s one of the biggest twists of the first game but you can very easily miss it.

Seeing the playermodel from gwyn/the King's third person perspective makes you realize how big these mfs actually are lol

@andrew-rn9ui

29 күн бұрын

Imagine their ego being crumbled by a midget dodge rolling 😂😂😂

@andrew-rn9ui

29 күн бұрын

"Jesus i just can't hit this little fucker" gets bonked by a big weapon or dagger backstabbed*

2:27 T pose to assert dominance

I made a self-imposed challenge to make a video without text but I failed it to talk about teeth textures at the very end. I added descriptions/commentary to the subtitles though! Also, the Sunlight Altar has teeth textures too

@CrestfallenChannel

2 ай бұрын

twitter.com/Crestfallen53/status/1771172691627651465

@Sonless_Vergil

2 ай бұрын

Awesome video!

Getting to see Nameless’ hollowed face up close is both cool & unnerving. Reminds me of the Mass of Souls from New Londo

I like how Nameless King's leg armor has those flaps, called "pteruges", which were standard grecoroman waist armor in antiquity and medieval times. Makes sense how his armor has Roman parts, seeing how Archdragon Peak (among other areas) is inspired by Constantinople and its architecture.

@dinonatorful

2 ай бұрын

Good eye

@goktug602

2 ай бұрын

İstanbul*

@dziosdzynes7663

2 ай бұрын

@@goktug602 cope harder turkoid

@dziosdzynes7663

2 ай бұрын

@@goktug602 cope harder turkomongoloid

@plinshi1660

2 ай бұрын

​@@goktug602No. Istanbul is ottoman, constantinople is easter roman

This video was supposed to come out last year, I don't want to say sorry since it isn't my fault that I've been unable to make videos, but I'm optmistic as I haven't yet tried the new migraine meds (CGRPs) and they've worked for some people with the same condition that I have

@kamilmalach6383

2 ай бұрын

Take your time. We all hope everything will be well. Stay strong, C.

@majesticderp

2 ай бұрын

As a fellow migraine sufferer, I wish you the best of luck with finding treatment, my friend. I had a horrific one that lasted 3 months, trying so many treatment options before I finally found one that worked. My brain felt so exhausted after being in pain like that for so long; I seriously don't wish that on anyone. Don't apologize for taking time to take care of yourself!

@Bathezid

2 ай бұрын

As someone going through something similar at the moment, I wish you the best of luck with your treatment. And thank you for making so many interesting videos throughout the years. Tomorrow is another day!

@zanemob1429

2 ай бұрын

Best of luck! My migraines are rare but when they show I’m puking from the pain and having constant anxiety attacks. It is hell. I mean that too I’ve been through a lot. Its awful. I hope its nothing like that for you.

@aifos5171

2 ай бұрын

Be safe friend, don't you dare go hollow

Never in a thousand years, after fighting him hundreds of times, had I ever noticed that NK's moveset was pretty much a 1:1 mix of sped up Gwyn and Ornstein attacks. That is absolutely beautiful and mind blowing at the same time.

Wonder why Nameless King went hollow or near hollow since he’s not mad or crazed, he obviously found a new home and worshippers. Yet again Allfather Lloyd, his great uncle did kick him out and destroy all mention of him after he supposedly inherited the whole realm. I think it was a coup

@YTPrule

2 ай бұрын

I heard that Gwyndolin booted him out so he could be Allfather Gwyndolin in the Japanese version.

@StephanuSneed

2 ай бұрын

@@YTPrule That would have been Lloyd, Gwyndolin became allfather millenia after the firstborn left.

@theULTIMATElife50

2 ай бұрын

I think the implication is that Gwyn and the other gods are not much different from humans. Gwyn in a sense went hollow after lighting the first flame and the Nameless King is more like an undead lacking humanity after many ages have passed. The Nameless King is likely the last of the old gods surviving in the world by DS3. In a way the straight line he took was the long way around.

@user-rd6fo6tv7o

Ай бұрын

NK isn't hollow though, he's virtually dead by the time ashen one reaches the archdragon peak. He's brought back from the dead by ringing the bell. Gods don't turn hollow.

@joshuataff4911

Ай бұрын

Where in the lore or anywhere in the games does it say the gods don't turn hollow? I see people site this all the time but I've played the games multiple times and nothing I can recall makes this definitive. It's pretty clear to me that Gwyn is hollow at the end of DS1. Also, where in the lore or anywhere does it clarify what the difference between the gods and humans are?

This was one of my favorite moments in my first DS3 playthrough When I first fought the Nameless King I genuinely felt his move set was familiar but when I saw how he attacked and what he was wearing he just screamed "Gwyn" in the back of my mind. I was in complete shock when I realized I was fighting the First Born, like I had always wondered who he was playing through the games after reading the item description in of the Sunlight Medal in DS1 It was like a huge reveal just showing itself to me in single combat honestly the highlight of DS3 for me.

@Vermoin

2 ай бұрын

:steamhappy:

I can only wonder what the nameless king must think of his father, his legacy, and what he did to the world. A powerful man not willing to let go of something that doesnt belong to him, going as far as building a massive city in the middle of nowhere just to hide the dark soul. I still don't know whether to think of gwyn as an absolute failure and awful person or as almost heroic for the amount of things he did.

@lilramennoodle8056

2 ай бұрын

Heroic for his people and allies, as for everyone else, well, imo might be close to that being griffith berserk

@ghoulbuster1

Ай бұрын

Gwyn was the hero of his story. But his legacy was long overdue, and refused to let go. Only decay followed.

@thelionofjudah5318

Ай бұрын

Awful

If Orenstein was his best friend, and attempted to retrieve or stop the Firstborn under Gwyn's orders, it makes it all the more despressing that Orenstein's corpse is where it's located.

@starfallentertainment9131

2 ай бұрын

What corpse?

@Xgenstudioz777

2 ай бұрын

There's no corpse, just a discarded spear at the entrance to the area, and a bit further away a discarded armor without any body.

@starfallentertainment9131

2 ай бұрын

@@Xgenstudioz777 that’s why I believe he transformed for the NK

@Xgenstudioz777

2 ай бұрын

@@starfallentertainment9131 The descriptions clearly separate those two characters. "Ornstein was the first knight of the sun's eldest born, and his cross spear is said to have pierced scales made of stone." (Leo Ring description) "Golden lion armor associated with Dragonslayer Ornstein... In the dragonless age, this knight, who long guarded the ruined cathedral, left the land in search of the nameless king." (Dragonslayer Set)

@starfallentertainment9131

2 ай бұрын

@@Xgenstudioz777 I meant I believe he was the dragon being Ridden not the Nameless King himself

2:26 haha I don’t remember Gywn using that move…

@mightyarbokking7197

2 ай бұрын

Gwyn thinking he’s Radagon.

Ive waited since 2011 to see that statue properly, thank you very much And I wish you all the best with your medical issues, God bless you

I never made the connection that the red drake is guarding the altar of the nameless king, who allied with the dragons. that's such a cool connection! Also: really nice work pointing out the similarities in fighting style and clothing between the nameless king and Gwyn. This goes far beyond a simple comparison.

Really cool set of comparisons, and I always wondered what it would take to restore the statue like that. Good work!

@CrestfallenChannel

2 ай бұрын

It felt like assembling a toy when I moved the parts around in Blender! This version was assembled by POOLOO73 though

@ErroTheCube

Ай бұрын

You guys are doing wonders for the DS community ❤ Thank you so very much!

To this day I think the Nameless King is one of the coolest fights I've ever experienced playing video games.

Crazy how Fromsoft actually all but confirms that the nameless king IS Gwyn's first born It makes you think if Manus is truly the furtive pygmy or not

Thanks for showing the Sunlight Altar statue painstakingly put back together and comparing it to Gwyn and the Firstborn. It's curious that Gwyn seems to have ab armor of some kind on the rear plate for his torso. It's almost like the armor was accidentally put on backward, but with how even the intro cutscene uses the final game's arrangement, it probably wasn't an accident. The Firstborn looks and sounds like a hollow in DS3, whereas Gwyndolin, for all the abuse he has suffered and the time that has passed, is still recognizable as his DS1 self. If the queen of Lothric is indeed Gwynevere, rather than a daughter who took closely after her (a Ranni to her Rennala, so to speak), then Gwynevere is still able to have kids, but the Firstborn is all sorts of messed up. It doesn't seem like age did that to him, it's as though someone cursed him and burned his soul to fuel the First Flame. Perhaps removing the Firstborn's deific status wasn't just a symbolic gesture, and he was given the same treatment as the non-divine, the humans, and hit with the Darksign. Thanks again, Crest!

I had forgotten that they used Gwyn's hollowed boss fight model for his statue in DS1, which they corrected in DS3. Awesome stuff, love your channel Crest!

Nice touch showing off the resemblance the Nameless King death animation has to the one from Demon's Souls. I thought it looked familiar, but couldn't put it together. Fantastic and detailed video as always Crest!

It's really cool to see how much of the Dark Souls series is converged in the Nameless King, the boss. The lore, the fighting styles, a dragon of course, if anything could sum up Dark Souls it's that fight. Even the way get to Archdragon Peak, there's nothing more Dark Souls than hiding the best part from the players. It takes massive balls to do that aswell. There are so many stories and questions that are finally answered with Archdragon Peak and the Nameless King. As a fan of world-building and non-conventional (and GOOD) storytelling, I consider Miyazaki to be one of the greats.

This video is freaking awesome!! Thank you, nameless king is my top 3 bosses of all souls games and I have loved it! Keep going man

This is such an amazing work. Thank you!

The level of quality of this video is heartwarming. For some reason it made me happy. Thank you!

@CrestfallenChannel

2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! That's the video that I spent the longest time making

Merci d’avoir compilé toutes ces ressources, j’avais déjà remarqué certaines d’entre elles (genre à quel point ils avaient sabordé l’apparence originale du roi sans nom comparativement à DS1, surtout au niveau de son arme), ou l’amusante réutilisation du modèle carcasse de gwen pour ses statues, mais c’est génial de toutes les avoir dans une seule source, surtout avec les comparaisons entre le roi, gwen, Ornstein et le tueur de démons.

I honestly hadn't noticed the similarities between the altar model and Gwyn at all. Excellent video, really extremely complete. ❣

Just admiring one of the best Crestfallen Warrior's video! Such subtle comparison.

Your videos are the best for drawing references, thank you!

@CrestfallenChannel

2 ай бұрын

I think a lot about this while making them!

The part that always made me sad is how his hand shakes right before he strikes his own mount down

Never once to thought that their moves were similar and now it so fascinating.

Really fascinating, I think it speaks to fromsoft's consistent world building that could maintain this level and thought and detail within just one boss encounter. The movesets, statues, everything had been fleshed out.

Really cool stuff, I would have never noticed some of these details.

11:20 Dark Souls Demastered at it again.

@zanemob1429

2 ай бұрын

Though I’d usually agree cleaning up his socks is a nice touch tbh.

Most terrifying thing is he mixed Ornsteins fighting style with Gywns making a brutal and offensively brillant style of maintaining speed and damage together. He keeps you on your toes like Ornstein yet has the powerful strikes of Gywn. Its beautiful to behold yet terrifying to face considering hes using ACTUAL lightning magic and not just a copy of it. Him being thought to be Fareem the War God could be seen. Not to mention being one of the only figures in the games to befriend and even ride dragons making him even more dangerous to make a foe of.

Cool. I particularly like the father/son comparison. Such fine touches. It’s the little things that make these games great.

The nameless king has a name and it's Timothy Carbuncle Gwynn Junior

When I fought the nameless king I realized that the fighting style was very similar to Ornstein's, but I never realized the similarities it has to Gwyn's, subtle and interesting, great detail. 😮

Great transitions!

I always thought it felt weird seeing nameless kings death animation. It always looked suspiciously like a death animation the player would have

DS1: Nameless King DS3: Nameless King SSJ3

Bro answering questions ive been asking myself weekly since 2013

I never put that together. Nice work, Crest. All this time and I never made the connection that a Hellkite Drake is watching over the Alter of Sunlight Statue and we see Nameless king befriended the stormdrake.

Wait, so if the ancient dragon wyvern thing (I forget what it’s called) is protecting the nameless kings sanctuary, maybe the helkite is protecting his shrine? Or pissed it’s been desecrated?

やっぱり無名の王はグウィンの息子＝王子だったんだよな

I had no idea those were Nameless King statues. Nice

OMG THAT'S WHY THE WYVERN IS GUARDING THE SUNLIGHT ALTAR!

Damn.. I cant believe I never made those connections with the animations. Cool! Still I wonder who he is

The slight shake in nameless hand when killing his wyvern still gets me

3:18 nice song transition

Absolute banger of a video

gracias, esto es un gran trabajo.

Also the animation at 3:09 looks like the combination of ornstein's flying slam and long dash.

I raise a glass to Faraam. He knew that his kingdom was less important than friendship

Holy moly, gwyn's armour front looks like the helmet of ds3s winged knights

YOOOOO! That's so cool! So the Nameless King is literally just like fighting Gwyn in his prime, but also Ornstein!

I think we do need some text sorry. Where does the complete statue come from? Was it hidden in the game files somewhere? Why is it holding the spear so awkwardly?

@SirDoots

2 ай бұрын

I think the statue was put together manually using the scattered pieces lying around at its feet

The statue for the Nameless King in DS1 looks like Grave Keeper Agdayne from DS2, in terms of clothing. I could be wrong, it could be the clothing of those blue guys in Earthen Peak with their spears.

@bigdumbfatcat2869

2 ай бұрын

The blue guys at Earthen Peak are from the Undead Crypt

Fun fact on Nameless King second phase you can hear Gwyns plin plin plon

I started to question if Ornstein is the Gwyn's firstborn, but degraded of his name and face and turned to be a mere 'guard' of his sister

What a game...

I'm glad that dark souls 1 is not forgotten after many years.

this was a really good comparison

Came for comparison but left with tears

I'm surprised you didn't try compare the animation of Gwyn and the Soul Of Cinder's phrase 2 attacks.

loving the fullmetal sound track, fits great

Wow. Thank you.

No body: The Nameless King: 😮

This makes me wonder if Ornstein was actually Gwyn's firstborn and the nameless king. The whole thing about Ornstein becoming the king of storm made sense originally but with the comparison it's starting to seem less likely. If Ornstein is the god of war under the name of Faraam, thematically that'd line up as well with Ornstein's lion armor when considering the lion knights of Forossa.

@kamilmalach6383

2 ай бұрын

That's crazy one, but I like it. There is something really weird going on with Ornstein's backstory - in DS1 we fight illusion with a part of a soul, in DS2 there's this dark Orstein who might be fake or not, and in DS3 we find his armour laying on the ground. It just doesn't add up.

@rigorm136

2 ай бұрын

Yeah but the description of the miracle sacred oath kinda disproves this

@Solibrae

2 ай бұрын

@@kamilmalach6383 Maybe the Nameless King split his soul into pieces, with each one forming a separate Ornstein. Then in Dark Souls III the Ornstein we read about, who went searching for the Nameless King, felt compelled to reunite with him to allow him to return to his full power.

@VioOrWhatever

2 ай бұрын

@@rigorm136 This is a bit of a stretch but it's also the closest example I can give. In Cyberpunk 2077, there's a part where Johnny brings you to this hotel that he used to live in years ago. In it you can find a pair of dog tags, and Johnny said it belonged to a fellow soldier that took a bullet for him. He died so Johnny could live. Thing is though, the dogtags are Johnny's if you look into it. So if you take all that into consideration what he's saying is that he stopped working for the man just before he went AWOL. One of the best things I've found about souls lore is that there's a lot pointing towards misleading information or the fact that you just get straight up lied to, an example of which is Gwyn sacrificing himself to the fire. A lot of things point towards him never doing that at all, and actually he sacrificed Ludleth to the fire. Why would Gwyn, a being similar but separate to humans, sacrificing himself to the fire then brand all humans? Wouldn't it make much more sense for a human being sacrificed to brand all humans? Anyway, point being. Ornstein, the firstborn, the god of war Faraam, etc. may have separate names in descriptions, but it's all notes taken by those who aren't those people in the first place. You're reading someone else's observation, not making the observation yourself. Ornstein could have left his name behind, ergo the nameless king. Everyone knows Ornstein well enough for an illusion of him to work in Anor Londo after all, but no one really knows who the nameless king is.

@rigorm136

2 ай бұрын

@@VioOrWhatever Bro you literally fight gwyn in ds1, the ludleth theory makes no sense. Also ludleth is a lot smaller than gwyn and during the soul of cinder bossfight Gwyn’s soul manifests itself inside the soul of cinder in order to fight you.

8:08 Gwyn: 🫥 Nameless King: 😮

Yeah, I always forget the nameless king hair is actually fake and is literally part of the crown itself

8:57 this gwyn one quite scares me a lot, seeing gwyn with playermodel is kinda cursed

The Nameless King is the estranged son of Gwyn, hes the one who was mentioned in the first game as the god of war who was banished

2:26 disappointing that Gwyn's flapping attack wasn't referenced in the nameless king's moveset

I never realized how hollowed they truly were.

@kie2

3 күн бұрын

They aren't hollowed because they aren't human. Hollowing and the undead curse are just human things. Gywn likely looks like that to reflect his recent past of getting burned to link the fire and his general weakened state. Nameless king probably just looks like that as a reference to Gywn because DS3 is referential to DS1 to a fault.

Please do one for the Soul of Cinder and the Player character movesets!

@splitdiceyt9236

2 ай бұрын

One neat thing to add also, the backstab animation of the spear from Dark Souls 2 looks similar to the attack the Soul of Cinder does when he grabs you with a spear.

Dark Souls will always be my favorite Fromsoft game.

8:06 the face i made when i saw him

2:28 ok, i think it's settled why Gwyn was among the most powerful beings in all dark souls

Nameless king era filho de Gwyn, Ornstein era um dos melhores guerreiros da infantaria de Gwyn, na infância de Nameless king Ornstein o treinou... Por isso ele tem características semelhante de Gwyn e golpes parecidos com de Ornstein?... 🤔🤯

Ash lake music hits harder now

_Crest is the Best._ Amazing research about the true state of a statue. • the sun warrior at the last frame... amazing Crest, just amazing

I remember a theory suggesting that the nameless king is the actual first lord of sunlight and the lord of cinder we see might be someone else entirely

It’s a bit of a missed opportunity that they didn’t try to add some billowing effects to Nameless King; not only would it tie back to another Gwyn comparison, but it would also make sense as you fight him in a storm of raging winds.

I guess it makes sense the sunlight altar is about Gwyn, he's the only one who can make a Lightning made of Sun Light as you can read in the miracle SunLight spear, while his son inherited the Lightning as you can read in his weapon.

nice glow up

now the chicken doesnt look that threatening

13:49 WOW how did you find this?? Nice video btw!

@CrestfallenChannel

2 ай бұрын

I recognized it as a DS1 death animation and then checked DeS

I think the nameless king might just be my favorite video game character ngl. Video is hella cool for solidifying everything. That animations comparison is nutty. Reminds me of Sekiro.

Someone was saying pontiff was modeled after Gwyn

2:27 hehehehe

This video one again reminds of how bad the lighting is in the remaster.

beautiful video

I didn’t know the first music at the beginning was from dark souls

(Lord Gwyn’s beard was not harmed in any sort of way when making this video)

In my headcannon, his name is Faraam.

Tbh I was always looking for the feet guy and when I played ds3 I looked at his feet and was like "hhhhh feet guy finnaly I found you :D"