I gotta say, I'm loving the comment section full of Very Opinionated People, all talking about how things would be "in a real fight". On a video of an exhibition match. Which, kind of by definition, isn't a real fight. Good work guys, you all look very tough.

@cgkcuyyvgfiu735

8 жыл бұрын

Louis Darilla You went to one of those schools where everyone got an A for contributing, didn't you?

@Ryzot

8 жыл бұрын

your life is a gimmick

@jonathanwilliam8819

8 жыл бұрын

+Louis Darilla yeah sure, knowing that mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell sure helped me become an accountant, thanks school.

@conornolan4310

7 жыл бұрын

+Louis Darilla Going to have to disagree with you there actually. Employers theses days aren't just looking for grades and qualifications. If you were competing for a job with someone who is the same as you in almost every way (qualifications and all) but they're a Kendoka, guess what: you're probably not the one getting that job. Being a part of any kind of martial art shows that you have a lot of self-discipline, focus and often confidence. It's also a bit of an insurance policy for when it's the Christmas party and somebody's pissed off the wrong person but is too drunk to notice.

@Ryzot

7 жыл бұрын

Secil Nolan exactly. getting good grades is not an amazing feat. doing extra activities like martial arts and charity, volunteer work will boost your resume a very good amount

The big guy with the turquoise dō at the end is the Final Boss of Naginata.You don't get the real ending unless you beat him.

@AlanMolstad

5 жыл бұрын

I want to thank you for speaking up. I was just skimming KZread and I was about bord with the first guys sparing, and I was about to click away when I read your comment and clicked over to see the last guys fighting.. Good GAUD!...that big guy was hitting so hard he was knocking down trees!

Weapon triangle was a lie

@nr-dx4zz

8 жыл бұрын

lol

@finalbossd

7 жыл бұрын

Isyraq Abu Bakar On the contrary, at least in this matchup. The naginata has an inherent advantage of having a longer reach, so the person with a shinai already has a disadvantage. Now, if you close the distance, then the shinai will trump the naginata.

@josephpark6502

7 жыл бұрын

Are you talking about cavalry > swords > spears > cavalry?

@finalbossd

7 жыл бұрын

Joseph Park It's a feature from the Fire emblem games. It is Swords > Axes > Spears > Swords.

@mrstrdknmabalz1412

6 жыл бұрын

finalbossd i'm sure that joseph park was referring to shogun 2 total war game, bocz thats how it is in the game. XD

Great video. I enjoy the look at mixed weapon sparring. The swordsman seems to have a much easier time closing the distance here than one might expect, then again humans are fast creatures over close distance.

@chaos_omega

6 жыл бұрын

I think it is because the kendoka likely has more sparring time under his belt.

@20thcentury_toy

4 жыл бұрын

And it's not a real life situation so the threat of getting hit is not, therefore he can be more reckless

@michaeljosephdimaano2802

3 жыл бұрын

In my opinion, the best way to deal with someone who has a greater range than you is to close in.

@taejo4975

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaeljosephdimaano2802 The problem is getting close in itself

@andrewl3692

2 жыл бұрын

Watch the 3 swords vs 1 spear match. That was amazing watching them move

I see a lot of Naginata thrusts to the neck and feet sweeps, but seems like they don't count. What's the deal with that?

@SniperAngle12

8 жыл бұрын

+jivenesspie Essentially, sport. Same thing as in fencing, where to the naked eye, both fencers have thrusted into each other at the same time, in reality both would have lost since they would die, except 1 'wins' because his blade contacted first. The thing here was that the guy probably either did not strike a countable area, did not call them out, or used a move that is not considered legally counting, even though it might have wounded or killed the opponent in a real fight..

@igorabdoaguilar9331

2 жыл бұрын

@@SniperAngle12 bit there are several instances of a decent cut for naginata that just dont count o.0

@bigbrowntau

5 ай бұрын

@@igorabdoaguilar9331 I suspect the judge was a kendo sensei, given the way he made the naginata players bow (kendo method, not naginata), so he'll be more aware of kendo strikes. As a naginata player, I felt there were a few Sune cuts that went home clean that weren't counted, but then I'm always biased for the naginata player! :)

Kendo looks quite good in the Naginata leg armour

Sorry for the shaky cam at 0:49

they are so worried about the scoring system and keeping in the correct stance ...its kinda painful to see the naginata guy hitting and the kendo guy just not giving a fuck because that does not score.

@rafhalimaxd

9 жыл бұрын

BlackoutKalico Beta What do you mean? Whenever he gets hit he must play dead? What the fuck?

@antonjoseph3307

9 жыл бұрын

BlackoutKalico Beta You are very correct. The guy with the naginata should have been more forceful to prove his strikes but he would get disqualified for being violent and unsportsmanly.

@melikeskalico3812

9 жыл бұрын

rafhalimaxd haha yes exactly, he must play dead and burst into flames

@Mngalahad

9 жыл бұрын

BlackoutKalico Beta kendo is all about the stetics. its not just being better than your opponent, you gotta follow the rules for fighting to score in a match. it develops autodiscipline and makes a more consistent training.

@melikeskalico3812

9 жыл бұрын

Mngalahad yea i know...but i just dont like it XD

It's fascinating how the rules completely change how the game is played. So many strikes would have certainly been deadly or at least grievous wounds if they were using real blades. The rules however dictate extreme quality of strikes and limited hit boxes so defense can be as little as moving so that you're hit somewhere other than a point zone. I will say it lends greatly to the aesthetic of the fighting. You rarely see such clean fencing in western martial arts. Most likely due to the fact that the quality of blow is rarely judged, only the making of it and almost everything is a valid target.

@Ianmar1

2 жыл бұрын

I recall that I read somewhere most recorded samurai duels were decided by minutes of circling followed by one stroke. Although stylized, perhaps this is not so unrealistic.

This video is the reason why I can't get enough of KZread

this crowd is kind of silent if i was there i would be like "HOLY SHIIT DID YOU SEE THAT !!!, IN THE FRIKING HEADD!!!"

@randomnessanimation6831

4 жыл бұрын

. It’s a sign of respect.

@mr.q337

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's even automatic lose if you celebrate after you score a point.

Prob one of a handful of kendo exhib videos I really liked. The first kendoka I thought did very well at misdirecting the naginata closiing space and countering very fast and accurate. Thx for sharing

I'm calling it now, I felt there was a bias against the naginata wielders --_--

@KylePandapatan

7 жыл бұрын

I'm not an expert at this, but the rules seem to favor the kendo practitioners. Points only count from the tip to the white part, so they only need to move forward to cancel the reach advantage. Hitting someone with the bottom or middle of your weapon won't count as points, although in real life that can bludgeon a person hard. This is sport, not battle, so the sword users won't die if they get hit in a way that won't count as points. From what I understand, spears like the naginata had more of the advantage on the field, especially on horseback. This is close combat with sports rules so sword users get an advantage. Well, these are observations from a beginner, I bet experts can find ways even with all of life's disadvantages stacked against them.

@AmiciCherno

5 жыл бұрын

Kyle Pandapatan well 1 the naginata is not a spear, it’s a Japanese pole arm, and 2 there were plenty of clean sweeps and hits with the blade part of the naginata, my guess is that they must have just thought there wasn’t enough force in those strikes to call it a point, even though in their own dojo or wherever they practice they probably would have called them points

@leeallen5588

5 жыл бұрын

I thought that as well, particularly in the second fight.

@Claymore_17

2 жыл бұрын

thats because the strike points are designed for the shinai (sword) the only points that count are the men(head) kote (hands) do (side of chest) and tsuki (throat) the naginata is only really good for hitting the throat in that situation but its easily deflected by the shinai

kendo: the way Asians prepare for the zombie apocalypse

@adude8931

8 жыл бұрын

YUP

@sinjin9148

8 жыл бұрын

lol

@hyuckjinchoe1433

7 жыл бұрын

haha true

@kharencabeltes2459

7 жыл бұрын

Mindboggler123 yupe your right 😝😝😝😝

@chelleery3432

5 жыл бұрын

Not exactly.

interesting would love to know how the scorring works

looks like so much fun. Im contemplating joining a local club to try it out

am i the ONLY ONE who hears that fucking beeping?

@tv82832

8 жыл бұрын

No you are not onlusten one

@Cha4k

8 жыл бұрын

+NDRE Someones lasagna is ready

@fragmentdark2272

8 жыл бұрын

photographers had some hard time focusing their cameras

@carlfletcherjunior9076

6 жыл бұрын

Nope it annoyed me

nobushi vs orochi :O

@MrLazyHog

6 жыл бұрын

Nobushi would win.

@assassingaming404

6 жыл бұрын

MrLazyHog every time

@Lucifer66627

6 жыл бұрын

Lmao, I was actually thinking bout nobushi and was like. "I gotta see a naginata irl."

@higherego1413

5 жыл бұрын

You can actually get one off amazon it's pretty cool

@wilfchapman-gandy8120

4 жыл бұрын

If Nobushi could be male I'd want it to be built like Saxton.

Not sure how the scoring works but this is fantastic to watch. The respect they show each other and the discipline they both have is remarkable.

@notmonkeyslayer

Жыл бұрын

In Kendo you have to be very specific where you hit and how you hit for the point to count. The Naginata's strikes were certainly deadly in a real fight but for the sport, it doesn't count as a point.

Well. I am surprised at the kendo's effectiveness. Well played.

9:01 that scream

@r0guel1ke48

3 жыл бұрын

‘Tis a cry that may strike fear into the hearts of hundreds

I miss attending Kendo at my local dojo..... One day I shall return...

@adude8931

8 жыл бұрын

k

@cherieterocreto4454

4 жыл бұрын

Pervy_Sage who care

@jluistl

2 жыл бұрын

A mí sí me importa. ¿Pudiste volver ó la pandemia lo impidió?

@Chownz

2 жыл бұрын

@@jluistl apologies, I don't understand your language. sorry

@maryc333

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chownz This is a rough Google translation of what they said, I hope it helps? - "I do care. Were you able to return or did the pandemic prevent it?" I also want to say that I totally relate to your comment, ignore the unnecessary hate from those other comments. Anyways, it's been years because of the pandemic and I hope to return to my dojo one day too :)

Realistically you'd think the Naginata would be more practical for range, but the swordsmen are all fearless going in for the attack.

okay real serious question for people who know what sword is the kendo supposed to simulate and if I'm missing something please tell me

I get very excited watching this! A wonderful showing of martial arts that just brightened my very early morning. Or is it a late night? You tell me, it's 12:30

I have absolutely no clue what the fuck is going on right now but at 2 in the morning on break because of the coronavirus, I am not surprised I ended up on this side of youtube.

Amazing blocks, on both sides!

It's like a "gaurd" against a grapple in standing unarmed styles like Judo, Aikido, and Jiujutsu; any shift in weight or footwork will cause subtle changes in hand, and, by extention, weapon position. By getting that close to eachother and locking weapons, they're able to feel that shift and thereby gain advance warning of an impending attack; it also hampers the opponent's movement. This is particularly advantageous for the Katana weilder, as it keeps him inside the Naginata's longer reach

When does the head strikes count and when does it not?

I love the "Anime stare down" after every strike

I come bsck to this video every now and then, and given youtube (and recording software) allows us to, not only watch at 0.25x speed, but also record and replay frame by frame, the last 2 frames of 1:53 and first frame of 1:54 you see the end of the naginata bend. It's a point for White, they just didn't call it. I don't know how scoring works, but given the reverse has happened, Black has always gotten the point. It's just frustrating to keep seeing this occur in different events across Japan.

Beautiful~

Everytime I check these kind of videos, I see comments about people crying about ''This is not realistic'' ''Real battles were nothing like this''. It's a sport, and it is not supposed to be alike to real battle...most of the armed martial arts derived from techniques, but are changed today in order to apply them as pure sports. It is not supposed to be reconstitution, it is supposed to be a sport, pure and simple. One such exemple that I know of is Iaido. It was called Iaidojutsu back in the days, but was changed to Iaido when they made it a sport, because it changed. That is the case for most martial arts, so I fail to see why people still find it in themselves to complain?

Who the fuck won, no clue XD

@ONshark

8 жыл бұрын

+Álvaro Velasco hard to tell for someone who is not into this. But fuck that, counting points and stuff is judges job :D

@g4sper112

8 жыл бұрын

1st match, Kendo guy (White) 2nd match, Kendo guy (White) 3rd match is a tie The judge flag's represent each participant (matching the colors of the ribbons in their back, in red and white), and when a point (Ippon) is scored, the judge rises the correspondant flag to let know who scored, and in the case of the second match, who won even when only one Ippon was scored. The first one in scoring two Ippon wins.

@wiggalama

8 жыл бұрын

+Gaspar Villot Yep, good analysis.

@g4sper112

8 жыл бұрын

wiggalama Thanks, man.

@JoseMariaVH

7 жыл бұрын

the guy who scream more xDDDD

Excelente do atração, isso é Arte Marcial.

Please explane, Naginata Can only Chopping blows, not pricked?

This is the place I am thinking of going to!

Wow that was cool. Takes a lot of mental fortitude

i don't know if they were supposed to stand in grapple range at the end (it says exhibition in the title), but the naginataka (if that'S waht you call the fighters) did really not make good use of their reach advantage ...

Every battle is unpredictable. Nothing is superior.

im not an expert in that so i ask why they stand Hand on Hand and weapon on weapon right next to each other without doing anything and why does the Girl with naginata jump in the air when whe makes bigger attacks ?

Can some who knows about this sport/martial art explain to me who won and why? I'm confused as I saw a lot of hits land but were not registered.

@mr.awesome8399

2 жыл бұрын

I dunno bro... I am wondering the same thing 🤷‍♂

This is so amazing

Hey dudes I made this long thing with a blade at the end. Oh how are you gonna use the length? Oh I think I'll just get as close as possible after the first strike.

@Aureliano5174

4 жыл бұрын

Hey dudes, I have no understanding whatsoever of the japanese kendo or naginata. But I think I'll give it sarcastic comments all the same.

@user-qz1rw2yy4n

3 жыл бұрын

Well, Technically if this where in a real fight situation, Naginata actually has an advantage because there’s no rules to follow.

How about kendo vs arnis double sticks/blade or nagitana vs arnis double sticks/blade

I think they fought very well and considering the advantages and disadvantages of each weapon i think the fight were fair ;P

My medical condition. Serious lack of energy and stamina!! Followed by mobility issues 😢 Otherwise I'll still continue the discipline, really loved the martial arts and ideology behind kendo

Not really familiar with Naginata but I felt that the last sune from the Naginata player should have been counted.

2:57 - 3:36 is great! Loved it.

Can someone explain to me why there is so much screaming and why are they having staring competitions every 10 seconds?

@bobjoe2921

8 жыл бұрын

+MSmart19 why is that?

@READComment1

8 жыл бұрын

+Adikshith Ojha It's known as kiai, which is essentially a battle cry. Naginata and kendo are in essence martial arts which require spirit, and mental awareness as well as physical readiness. The Kiai (yelling) is part of the mental awareness and also serves as intimidation for your opponent. Plus, as mentioned below, once you hit the part, you yell it to show the judges that you think you scored a point.

@alexfebrianoo

8 жыл бұрын

+READComment1 I dont know about this,but for the purposes of most Japanese martial arts, the "shouts" are Kiai and serve a couple different purposes: Contracts the diaphragm and chest which can allow you to take a hit better. Puts extra "energy" behind the strike as it causes you to focus on the moment of impact. Shows "spirit" when in competition. Shows where strong strikes would be during kata. Can catch opponents off guard if they are anticipating it or don't know what to expect. Depending upon the situation they can also act as a battle cry in some ways but I haven't heard that explanation for them given at the dojo. in goju-ryu karate our sensei explained that it also allows him to be sure you are breathing, as a fair number of people when starting out seem to have trouble remembering to breathe throughout a technique,we also does this in taek won do as well

@READComment1

8 жыл бұрын

alex febrianoo All excellent points! Yes, a kiai can help add energy behind a strike. This requires training though, as many beginners will yell for the sake of kiai, so the strike and kiai end up being separate. Experimenting with different yells to find your "characteristic" one that is most "in sync" with your body movements during a strike takes time. It usually requires testing out different kiai sounds, pitch, etc...

@keripik6728

8 жыл бұрын

well in karate, my sensei used to teach us we have to yelling (kiai) to put extra energy in every move(also break down the mental's opponent). but i can't do that so out loud lol

Amazing !!!!

It's like a language with it's own rhythm, speed, timing. Then the opening presents itself that you must take advantage of.

Love that, thanks for sharing! (Is it a real competition? Cannot believe they allow people use different weapons)

@angrycdn

4 жыл бұрын

Exhibition match

who is won

The beginning where the Kendo guy went into sonkyo position and the Naginata fella just sorta bent not knowing what was goin' on had me laughing. Also, that one reason to learn how to use Gedan no kamae lol

@TentaclePentacle

5 жыл бұрын

that's why the guy with the Naginata sucked and lost the match. In theory, a Naginata beats a katana.

a big black man in kendo suit with a naginata. thats the coolest thing ive ever seen. i must show this to my black brothers in the US.

As a Shogun 2 veteran, I’m surprised that the Naginata Samurai seemed to be winning more against the Katana Samurai in a 1v1

how to consider score in naginata?

@kittythecute592

5 жыл бұрын

It's quite simple . . . . You dont :D No jk idk qwq I forgot

The length of the naginata has more advantage than the sword

so do kendo and naginata clubs have competitions against each other as well? or are they kept seperate most of the time?

@scottrichter341

8 жыл бұрын

+Kalmon salmon In the U.S. finding a Naginata school may be very difficult. I spent a few minutes looking around on google for one in my state and it seems there is only one here. So in the US its probably very unlikely that there would be cross training. When I was doing Kendo I had never seen any naginataka come in. We would get other kendoka from other schools come in, that is somewhat common. Perhaps in Japan its more common. I wouldn't mind cross training with naginata.

@SC.920

8 жыл бұрын

+Kalmon salmon It's more common for them to face off against each other in Japan, where Naginata is mostly practiced by females. They tend to have female Naginata teams play against male Kendo teams. There's quite a few videos of the shiai on youtube, they're interesting matches. Naginata is still quite rare outside of Japan, which is a shame.

the kendoka can only charge into the naginataka because this is sports. if it comes to real battle one cannot blindly charge into enemy zone of control without minding one's own life. but put this thing aside, the video is quite interesting. i also want to see some gedan kendo stance duels.

Love how the katana guy gets his ass kicked tryna block when legit the naginata guy just stands still in a guarding stances

where i can order that wooden naginata?

@angrycdn

6 жыл бұрын

ebogu.com it’s bamboo

Saxton sensei is so badass

And I have fictional characters that fight with BOTH of these!

In a real life or death fight, anyone who chooses the katana over the naginata is a fool.

@Kachok80

9 жыл бұрын

BloodofPatriots I would personally choose the naginata but the katana does have the edge in durability since the naginata has a wooden handle that the katana could easily cut up close, but then again the naginata (normally) has a heavier blade so going blade to blade the naginata is the stronger weapon. I used to fight in period fighting tournaments and I personally always chose the pole arms (halberd) for the extra reach and momentum, the trick is learning to use both ends and even the shaft to keep the opponent off balance.

@BloodofPatriots

9 жыл бұрын

Jared Thibodaux Some naginata's actually used a "recycled" katana blade. So imagine a samurai trying to even get close enough to cut that wooden pole with a katana when there's a blade of equal length sticking out of the end. I trained with the staff for a while and my favorite target was the ankle. I'm sure you know why since you did period fighting.

@comandosespeciales

8 жыл бұрын

+BloodofPatriots Since I did not period fighting, why?

@BloodofPatriots

8 жыл бұрын

comandosespeciales Range. A naginata can kill from three times the range of a katana. The most effective technique is to sweep the legs then slash back and forth. The katana is on defense the entire time because it can't even touch the holder of the naginata.

@comandosespeciales

8 жыл бұрын

BloodofPatriots Oh yeah, it was kinda obvious. Thanks pal.

is this a common thing to see? I've heard about nito-ryu kendo versus chudan, but never seen this

@Aureliano5174

4 жыл бұрын

You mean nito (two swords) vs itto (single sword). Nito and Itto have a lot of similarities, because eventually you are using a sword. Naginata however is a different weapon and a different martial art. However, the rules are similar to kendo, so engagement is possible

Im starting to think all this is about is whether you yell when landing a killing blow.

Kao da 2 borca idu preblizu jedan drugome i na taj nacin "guse" slobodnu borbu?

Why are the Naginata dudes and girls always hitting the legs, though?

@angrycdn

3 жыл бұрын

Kendo ppl aren’t used to getting hit in the legs

and who are you to judge?

Damn, that was interesting!!! I liked the Kendo guy's skills more

I like the bull-shouldered naginata wielder! Love at 6:30 when the katana wielder came in to try and push around and contend with him. No, just no.

Love the intellectual comments.

Samurai shodown?

I love this big boy.

@Aureliano5174

6 жыл бұрын

He is one of the best in the USA. His name is Kevin Saxton

柄ズネかっこよすぎ

Why's the guy with the naginata not trying to keep his range?

@PaniKWardoG

7 жыл бұрын

girl with the naginata*

Gosh.. It's the hardest to block with the Shinai a Do or a hit to the legs

The kendoka seem to be higher rank than the naginataka, judging from their movement. .. am I right?

@nothingspecial4510

9 жыл бұрын

Nope

Naginta Naginta love my Naginta

@HaydenLau.

7 жыл бұрын

Armando Murillo Then maybe you shouldn't misspell it

@project1mission

7 жыл бұрын

That joke went so far over your head Hayden...

@williamkim2551

7 жыл бұрын

Naginta Please!

@Lo-tf6qt

6 жыл бұрын

I love my Shinai , I'm just going to put this out there

@oscarsalazar5876

5 жыл бұрын

That's what he meant-a!

What I never get about these displays is why the Naginata keeps getting used to make sweeping cuts, even out of the bind. You would never do that against a sword as it breaks your threat and allows them to close range. The big guy kept it much tighter though, would hesitate to try moving in on him.

@Marane8

9 жыл бұрын

RedHerald It's because those types of strikes would be lethal. If you strike someone in the legs, not only are they bleeding to death, they can't move, so you can stab them from a good range for a spear, and it just leaves you with the responsibility of knocking them down to stab them.

I think the scoring system needs some work here, or at least in that particular match, for there were times when the guy with the pole axe (I know that's not exactly accurate) was hitting the guy with the sword and yet the judge did not notice. Perhaps electronic scoring would do better.

Orochi vs Nobushi?

It even looks like the visible judge gives the point to red than changes to white.

The point awarded at 8:30 looked like a clear ai-uchi to me.

The scoring doesn't make much sense. Lot of inside the guard attacks that go unscored.

The naginata wielder is standing like a statue, he needs more footwork. The swordsman kept closing the distance without much effort.

well the spectators are clapping already, they fighters just bow toward each other ....they even haven't started yet ....

I join kendo but I don't know the one with the long stick but they hit slower than kendo

@Aureliano5174

7 жыл бұрын

ask your sensei about naginata

Naginata has a distinct advantage, seems to score easier.

one of naginata advantages is the distance. I think this battle ground is not wide enough.

I kinda feel like the scoring weren't made completely clear or maybe the first Naginata user just weren't too experienced in sparing, it seemed like she thought the fight was over like 2 or 3 times when she had hit her opponent.

Naginata?

Going by pure martial validity, the naginata won most of the exchanges.

Does the second one have skype? Because I'm in love.♥

What the hell!?!? I come to his dojo kinda often. Where was I when this happened

@facefish4963

8 жыл бұрын

git gud

@TheAce12570

7 жыл бұрын

+Facefish what the f does "git good" have to do with his comment at all?

@MrTehNoms

7 жыл бұрын

finally some sense...

@facefish4963

7 жыл бұрын

Beta Factor How did i post that on here? WTF

@MrTehNoms

7 жыл бұрын

This question confused me...

3:23 did je just yell MUDA or have I been watching too much jojo

that first guy didnt keep his distance >.

This is a reason why naginata got not to be used in the real battlefield. It was replaced to a long spear soon after.