I agree that the sound of the Nadine mounted on a stand was better/more natural-sounding than when placed on the strings, but you have a trade-off when recording: the closer the mic is to the bass, the less leakage from other instruments (well, the leakage is the same, but because the mic is closer, you can dial back the gain which then lowers the gain of the leakage. The result is that the signal will have more bass and less leakage.) Something to consider!

@stringmatrix

3 ай бұрын

Yes that's a good point. It also depends on the "figure" of the mic. For a recording in a separate booth I'd rather put the mic on a stand.

Thank you you sooooo much for making this great content! this is exactly what im looking for every time that im researching a pieace of gear. and as usual, you tone, technique and musicianship as SUPERIOR!

@stringmatrix

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

Great job on the review and the playing, very enjoyable.

Great Mic, i used it since 1year.

Cool video, as usual. Very informative and straight to the point. Great playing too. We reviewed this mic for the Spanish bass magazine "Bajos y Bajistas" some months ago and it's a really nice mic. I am actually using one and I love the fact that you can leave it mounted on the tailpiece and just take the bass anywhere knowing that the sound guy will get a great sound. I use that in combination with a LARS contact mic and this combo (Nadine + LARS) has changed my life. I've invested a lot of time and money trying to get the best amplified upright sound. I used to have a huge pedal board with the Tone Dexter, a couple of EQ's and a two channel preamp and then a two channel amp (one for upright, one for electric) plus a combination of a flat sounding cab and the EICH Baseboard. It all worked but it was a pain taking all that to a gig. Now I'm just using the LARS direct to my amp/monitors and the Nadine goes straight to the desk and through the P.A. and I am getting the best sound in my life. Could't be happier. And yes, the guys at Ear Trumpet Labs have really done their homework because they've managed to get a fantastic sound considering that the mic is not located at the perfect spot. It does work. Thanks again.

I just bought EBS Stanley Clarke to use it with Nadine also with this preamp you can mix mic with the pickup thanks a lot for the video I didnt have a chance to try it together in a real live situation so thx a lot for the video, it will definitely help me

@stringmatrix

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the EBS preamp offers many possibilities, a great piece of gear!

Very nice comparison! I was going to buy one of these mics for home recordings, but for gigs, I have just given up with mics. Now I use a blend of a piezo and magnetic pickup when playing live. It's not the most beautiful sound, but not too bad, and I can get it pretty loud.

@stringmatrix

Жыл бұрын

I also gave up using mics for gigs. I only use a piezo (Ans-bassbalsereit). I like to keep it simple on gigs. If the FOH engineer wants to add mic on the PA, it's fine with me, but I don't need it on the stage.

Nice experiments! Perhaps the wooden ATM 35 mount is picking up more afterlength vibration than the Nadine's rubber mount?

@stringmatrix

Жыл бұрын

Yes, that's also what I thought about after I had finished the video: I suppose some vibrations get captured by the ATM35 because of the direct contact. I should try this with some sort of a softer attachment sometime.

I made the same construction, but then using a clamp with rubber rings holding a Sennheiser E906 of Behringer B906 aimed at the spot where the soundpost is. Works perfectly.

@stringmatrix

Жыл бұрын

Ah very interesting! If you can send me a photo that would be great, I would love to see that: hervejeanne (at) gmx.de

@marcelperik

Жыл бұрын

@@stringmatrix Hi, can't send you a photo, here in this chat, but here's one of my uploads and there's is a still at abt. 13 seconds where you can see the mic hanging. Later, I discovered that the sound gets better when the mic is pointed at the position where the soundpost touches the top. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eZ961MizoMW3l7g.html

@stringmatrix

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, that's a great design and idea, thanks for sharing!

Yes, the microphone sounds very nice. Thanks for the extensive test and comparison. Personally, I'm not sure if I would want to carry such a large and heavy mic. I rather use a smaller mic and mount it even more close to the bass top to reduce bleed. Currently, I'm happy with the Bass ball and the Audix ADX-20iP. Does not sound as natural as the nadine, but works quite well for multitrack live recordings even with a loud drummer.

@stringmatrix

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it is true and a "parameter" to consider, that the Nadine is bigger and heavier than the other clip mic options.

Pretty bulkie man. Great playing.

@stringmatrix

Жыл бұрын

You mean the mic is big? Yes true, compared to other clip mics.

@seamus9305

Жыл бұрын

@@stringmatrix Yeah, mic sounds great but I'm looking for a smaller clip-on. I built a teardrop base and right now I'm bowing good enough to keep the neighborhood cats away.

I wonder if you could review the new Headway EDB 2 HE preamp? It looks like it has a lot of great features for double bass live amplification, mic and pickup blend...

@stringmatrix

Жыл бұрын

Headway is welcome to contact me, if they are interested. I already have a couple of things to do on my list of Stringmatrix projects, so I won't contact them myself right now.

@bradbenefield3291

Жыл бұрын

I’ve been using the Nadine for about two months and with the Headway for about two weeks. The Headway is great so far - one preamp that provides the phantom power needed by the Nadine, a nice EQ strip and a notch filter. And I can blend in my other pickup (Upton Rev) with it. For small gigs I run it through a QSC 8” speaker on a stand to avoid feedback. For larger gigs, I’ll run the pickup through my GK and run the Nadine to the board - even moderate stage volume causes feedback with the Nadine. But in general the Nadine sound is great, and the Headway is also fantastic - it’s small, and has flexible EQ and output options. Looking forward to figuring them both out more.

As always, great job! How did you mount it to the microphone clip? (Instead of the afterlength of the strings)

@stringmatrix

Жыл бұрын

To attach the Nadine to a stand I used a very large mic-clamp (mic mount / mic clip, what's the correct word in english?), large enough to have the rubber disc "inside" the clamp. It didn't look very good and was not totally stable, but I couldn't think of another easy solution.

@MatthewRybicki

Жыл бұрын

@@stringmatrix I understand! Thanks man!! I've been getting a lot of compliments on using mine. It's true there's much more bleed than I'd like, but multiple people have said "it just sounds like YOUR bass"

Great video and awsome player! Hiw do you think this mic is also appropriate in a loud bluegrass rockabilly live band ? Have a great day

@stringmatrix

9 ай бұрын

I think that this mic will only work for amplification in bands with a moderate "loudness". If you use the pickup for your amp and the mic only for the FOH, it might work but the mic catches quite a lot of the sound happening around the bass.

Sounds alright. How do you think it fares against its competitors, namely DPA, regarding leaking drums?

@stringmatrix

Жыл бұрын

I only could compare Nadine to my ATM35, placed right in front of the bridge (maybe 5-6 cm). The leaking from the other instruments was a little less on the ATM35. I don't know if it has to do with the position. The clip mics with flexible gooseneck have the advantage of multiple positioning. The Nadine has the advantage that it won't move from it's place while playing.

Could you make a test comparing this with DPA 4099B?

@stringmatrix

Жыл бұрын

Good idea... But I have to send the Nadine back soon, I am afraid I won't get this organized.

The audio technica did you cover the holes … the ones tha makes it cardoid?

@stringmatrix

9 ай бұрын

Oh I'll have to check that, I am quite sure that the holes were still visible, but I will double check.

What are those strings? I don't recognize the wraps.

@stringmatrix

Жыл бұрын

Oh thanks for reminding me, I'll write it in the description: E and A are Gallistrings Ouverture, D and G are Pirastro Oliv.

Do yourself a favour and check out Geoff Malia’s pickups, from Sydney, Australia, anchored in the bridge. I use them on all my uprights, can be rotated for volume, great system, wouldn’t waste my time with anything else, works brilliantly and very user friendly !

@stringmatrix

Жыл бұрын

I never heard of that, do you have a link?