NA cams upgrade on the Volvo 850, S70, V70 T5 engine. All of the NA cams from '92 TO '98 work - VOTD
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There has been a long standing debate that the NA cams from the '93 vehicles are different/better for the T5 mod than the cams from '94 - '98. I was able to measure 4 sets at one time. A pair from '93, '94, '96 and '98. All 4 appear to be the same size. All 4 measured between 40.59 - 40.64 mm.
Bottom line, I don't believe it matters if you get NA cams from a '93 or '97 B5254S engine. All of them between 1993 - 1998 should work the same.
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Love your videos thanks for making them . I think the NA cams have a higher lift duration than the turbo cams so if you swap NA cams into a T5,it should give a slight raise in output . But from experience it's marginal . All the best from the UK Robert.
@RobertDIY
8 жыл бұрын
+In Deep Yes, that is what they say. Someone had them dyno'd here and found 10 more HP.
hey whats up robert i watched almost every video about the volvo s70 and my questions is can i use any s70 na cam for my s70 turbo 1999 ?
@RobertDIY
8 жыл бұрын
+phil morin no.
Late to this mod but love your videos Robert…given me enough confidence that I bought a 97’ 850r wagon to learn to wrench. Pulled an na intake manifold and cams from a 98’ v70 na car. Just wanted to confirm 98 cams are ok for this swap?
@RobertDIY
Жыл бұрын
yes.
Hi Robert, love your videos, will 850 1995 NA - Intake- 3547600.PGI Exhaust- 3547601.PGE Do the job as well ?
@RobertDIY
3 жыл бұрын
sure
Does this only work for the s70 t5 2.3 or for glt 2.4 aswell
@RobertDIY
6 жыл бұрын
+Jonathan Alcox 2.3
isn't that only lift that you measured what about duration I'm not saying that there any different just wondering
@RobertDIY
8 жыл бұрын
+Ryan “Iamevolmonkey” McCormick I don't know how to measure that so I just measured the lobe height.
There is a debate that has been going on for a long time... There are people wondering if a Non - turbo glt could be into a turbo glt? I think there if these people wants to turbo a non-turbo car needs to modify a few parts and upgrade the ECU, injectors, manifolds and piping. Possibly cams as well. But, to clerify. I don't think cams will make a difference in these vehicles since they look the same. Think it's possible?
@parkerallen2765
10 ай бұрын
If the connecting rods and bottom end and could hold up to the boost then yea
Vaikka nosto on sama noissa kolmessa nokassa, niin onko asteet?
@RobertDIY
5 жыл бұрын
Mies, en tiedä. Luulen, että saat muutaman joukon ja lähetät ne konekiineille, ja anna heidät tarkistamaan.
In Sweden the saying is that for t5 cam upgrade you shuld get the early 850 2.5-20v cam from 91 or possible early 92. Roumor say the earlest cams where the hardest. But after rough idle complains from owners volvo put tamer cams for later cars staring 92 model year. The cams that you have have should differ between 94-95 model don't know how, but the reason is that Volvo ditched the vvis intake for cost and reliability reasons for the 95 model year. To compensate for the low to midrange torque loss when removing the vvis they redesigned the cams.
@RobertDIY
8 жыл бұрын
+nilsutt Oh, the '93 & '94 cams here have the same part number. The '95 - '98 share the same part number. But I could not see the difference with the caliper.
Hi Robert, I have cams from b5254FS that was in a Volvo 850 92' and the part number is 3547601.Hope that helps solve this mystery ;)
@RobertDIY
8 жыл бұрын
+Alexzandra Karlsdóttir cool.
Hmm, and there isnt a slight rotational timing difference between the lobes? The lobes have no shape difference at all? Sounds like people are imagining things, dont it :-D
@RobertDIY
8 жыл бұрын
+zx8401ztv I'm not sure what they had going on. I'm going to measure one from a turbo next time I see one.
love your vids. go steelers
@RobertDIY
8 жыл бұрын
+frank dulls LOL, Thanks.
I wouldn't change the cams... without more research. In german forums the consens is you lose power all around except top end and a tune should be used. Imo that makes sense - Volvo did design them like that for a reason.
@RobertDIY
7 жыл бұрын
+hausm3ister I put them in two cars now. If adjusted/timed properly, they are great all around, tune or no tune.
@hausm3ister
7 жыл бұрын
I am not saying you are wrong. But I do not think it is as easy as a bit more lift = more power. first google hit: www.hotrod.com/articles/hrdp-1011-cams-for-turbocharged-engines/ There is a lot more to it. What I am saying is that without a before and after comparison it is wrong to talk about an upgrade. I don't have the experience to contradict you, but I know what I do not know ;) If you have some data on it please share it :)
Hi Robert thanks for the vids. I have a question I hope you could help me with. Sometimes the engine on my volvo V70 stops a couple of times and I have to restart it a couple of times before it finaly runs without stopping, it mainly happens when it is wet of damp outside but not every time. so what could be the problem ?
@RobertDIY
8 жыл бұрын
Have you tested the fuel pump relay?
@gundamm5
8 жыл бұрын
No I haven`t how do i try it to see if thats the problem ?
@RobertDIY
8 жыл бұрын
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@RobertDIY
8 жыл бұрын
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about how much is a set of these NA cams worth?$$ ( used of course)
@RobertDIY
7 жыл бұрын
Worth? Supply and demand. It takes about an hour to remove them and they cost $40 at many junkyards. I'd ask $100 for a pair based on that.
Phi-6842281 intake Phe-6842282 exhaust is the right number 92-93 GLT 170hk engine
@RobertDIY
7 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks for sharing.
@blackinblue11
2 жыл бұрын
Dude those are turbo cams, where did you get that info??
Easy to make faster/ remove map sensor (manifold air pressure) google it/ tape it up/block hole/fit manual boost controller demon tweeks £20 and set at 15 seconds past 12 o clock and watch it fly with maxed out 17psi from the td04 16T and use Tesco momentum 99 or cosco 99 octane enjoy but watch the speeding its like having a new engine from a v12 and use denso racing plugs worlds smallest tip and one step colder
@lumimobb
3 жыл бұрын
How long would this last lol
Is this mod applicable to all pre me7 turbo engines?
@RobertDIY
6 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the video?
you didn't compare them to turbo cams? so whats the point
@RobertDIY
4 жыл бұрын
The title didn't say "here is a comparison", so what's the point?
Googlen translator, sorry if mistakes. My question. How much is the power difference? Does anyone have a t5 steed on the dynamometer with camshafts and freely breathable camshafts?
@RobertDIY
7 жыл бұрын
11 HP Stock, I believe 5% overall.
@Topsiekku
7 жыл бұрын
difference is 11hp?
@Topsiekku
7 жыл бұрын
ok, thanks
@RobertDIY
7 жыл бұрын
Yes but the torque curve also changes which make a nice difference.
@Topsiekku
7 жыл бұрын
Torque curve, how it changes? Maybe maximum torque is higher?