The Unity I seek is the unity of a Choir. where the beauty lay in the diversity of the voices and roles, singing different parts to the same song. Individual pieces forming a whole that is larger than any of its constituant parts, unique facets of a gem shining in compliment to one another, joining in chorus to sing the song of life, in uninity together. 💜💚

"It's in the differences that we can find identity and it's in identity that we can find differences." Copyright this line fast. It's brilliant.

I, love, being with you

What a pleasure to be in conversation with you Mendel. Thank you for putting this together.

@thinkingaloudwithmendel

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Looking forward to doing it again

Just from the top of my head what sticked ... In the reverse order ... Like the idea of no-self or anatta is not nihilism. It goes to the heart sutra. There was a nice occurrence where a lay person asked Dalai Lama on the heart sutra and received a beautiful answer which is the gist of the "Form is emptiness". Where the Buddhist point is that there is no fixed I, the I that we perceive and invest with identity is ungraspable, it shifts like the river of life, or the mind stream, which Heraclit spoke of, and in which we cannot step twice in the same river. When we ask "Who am I ?" said Dalai Lama we can see that I am not the body, I am not the thoughts ... which we sometimes invest with identity. In Hinduism the body-mind type, the Dosha is acknowledged and so is the type, the swabhav, like in action oriented, feeling oriented, thought oriented. Based on the body-mind type we can make choices that are conductive to our well-being, knowing which foods to eat, how to dress, the colors that soothe us, the type of meditation that is most suitable, whereas swabhav informs us more on the way we approach our spiritual search, perhaps as I see it, in approaching a religion. There are religions or spiritual practices which are more devotional, or some that are more truth, or action oriented. In this way we don't fight our body-mind and psychology but we integrate it harmoniously and honor it as our unique gifts and talents. Regarding the trees ... That's a lovely subject ... Like in the proverb, "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree." Like it fell in Newton's head ... but apple fell many times, but that one triggered something ... the conditions were such that it sparked insight ... We are fruits of the trees of our ancestors ... really in a way when we talk, our ancestors talk in us, trees leaning their branches on each other, caressing ... I loved the idea of spiritual smuggling. It occurs to me that Gurdjieff mentions it the way of the sly man. And the opening ... I enjoyed that "Am I true, only if I am true ?" Here is a passage that I read last night from Haim Shapira's book "The wisdom of King Solomon" from a passage with insights from the Kotzker Rebbe: "If I am I because you are you, and you are you because I am I, then I am not I and you are not you. But if I am I because I am I, and you are you because you are you, then I am I and you are you." I see two voices in Zevi :) one that sees infinite and the one that battles with the jewish identity ... I believe that's in everyone ... of the culture, society ... some are so deep and we take them to be true that even the idea of questioning their validity doesn't come up, because deep inside we feel that something foundational about our identity would shake and whatever we thought of ourselves as true would crumble and we wouldn't know who we are ... But isn't that the first step we need to take in order to really know ? The mind clings between the known and the unknown ... but in order to see we need to step into the unknowable ... The beautiful paradox is that jews couldn't conceive of Jesus outside judaism and most christians cannot conceive of Truth in hassidism. But infinite welcomes and embraces paradox. I enjoyed it when you said "I hear you". That was deep ... that came from a deeper place ... And that with the names ... that we remember the names of the people who we love ... I think it goes to voices ... Sometimes when we can't hear our own voice, our Guru we tend to look "outside". And there is no really "outside" and "inside", that's what the doubting intellect, the object referral way of perceiving the Universe: sensations, images, feelings, thoughts as objects in a "world out there" whereas "the world in here" is what is merging subject and object, the ultimate truth and the conventional truth. Moving from conventional truth (object referral) which is perceived as external as in parents, teachers, caregivers, society to ultimate truth (Self-referral) which is maturing is moving from childhood to maturity, from seeking love and safety outside to Being love and loving ourselves. Community is an integral part of this ... the family, which doesn't need to be the family we have blood ties with, but a family where we feel we belong. Whereas in childhood we adhere to community, to rules in order to survive, maturing means we can form our community or be humble and accept the communities that are welcoming us in their midst. Acceptance means that we let go of expectations we have on other people, and acknowledge that not everyone can or should provide for everything we need, but that existence in its abundance fulfills our deepest needs and that when we are open we can recognize that we are being provided, cared for, nurtured and that we are never alone (not in a big brotherly way :)) on our journey and appreciate life more. Appreciation opens the way to abundance consciousness.

Really loved this conversation, thank you both 🙏🏻✨ I conquer with Zevi about exploring other religions and being moved by their mystics, then coming back to Judaism with an even deeper fusion and appreciation. I also liked the example of seeing you clear the Shabbos plates before your wife (any wife anywhere preparing Shabbos would so appreciate that help of a husband! A spectacular note to take to emulate lol) But seeing the beauty in others, to love all, when in relationship, is truly so beautiful to have that security to not feel that your love ( in a partner) is something to posses. To feel that comfort with a partner and see Love together in all people, things, etc. is truly a blessing.

This was great, dialogue is important... Didn't agree with everything but completely love the platform and would love to join you one day!

@thinkingaloudwithmendel

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I don’t even agree with everything I saw 😂 thank you for listening and the feedback

Came here from Zevi’s channel. Keep it up, really enjoyed this conversation!

@thinkingaloudwithmendel

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Awesome! Thank you! Welcome aboard 😊

Great explanation of Tiferet @Zevi and @Mendel unreal distinction between aim and goal - KEEP EM COMIN!

@thinkingaloudwithmendel

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Thanks! Will do!

Fantastic

@thinkingaloudwithmendel

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Thank you! Cheers!

How one little bird, in a nest, can be so divisive…😂 ❤ 1:41:34

How do you love yourself? You fill your own need immediately, without a thought. *Then*, if it doesn't work out, you try something else; you never stop.

Seems like thinking has been heavily influenced by christian based culture ... and philosophy ... Deepak speaks of the Law of Detachment and the wisdom of uncertainty ... That's Friday ... usually what I noticed is that planning somehow breaks up on Friday and some things we might not have expected do happen ...

18:40 not unlike Jung's Enantiodromia

@alohm

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19:20 The tetralemma in Greek (Pyrrhon Of Elis) and the Catuskoti in Sanatana...