That motor looks like a concrete cement mixer. Great video and very inspirational

I love these videos because it makes you want to check on your engine.

My father built one of these back in the day (before I was born) I still have it and it still runs smoothly and quietly. An amazing locomotive.

It looks like a Varney "Old Lady" 2-8-0. Most of Varney's kits were based on Southern Pacific locomotive classes. Roundhouse kits took over most of the Varney line. The "Old Lady" was always popular, but I never saw a kit from the factory with a 7 pole motor. Biggest problem that I remember was binding in the valve gear from people getting the rivets to tight. Always roll the chassis on a piece of track before installing the motor. Check and correct all binding before proceeding.

That's a really good find there! The 7-pole V-2 and V-3 motors from Varney were designed for them by Lindsay, who was known in the 40's and 50's for having some of the quietest and best running motors on the market. The 7-pole skewed armature design made them smooth and powerful even with their small size, but they were also expensive and complicated to produce, so Varney dropped the design after a fairly short time (so they're both very rare and valuable) in favor of cheaper open-frame style motors. Lindsay kept making the 7-pole motors under their own name into the 60's before going out of business. Although the motor tooling is long gone, Lindsay's quality detail parts are still made today by Precision Scale Co, and their detailed ALCO FA-1 and FB-1 bodies are still being made by Hobbytown of Boston.

That was amazing. That loco's good for another 50 years. I would love to see a follow up, once you find an appropriate tender. See ya next time.

@amyreynolds3619

3 жыл бұрын

I have seen mantua or bachman tenders at train shows in South Carolina this year. We have had four shows since February and Atlanta is having one next month.

How far have we come in 70 years? Just amazing quality engineering..7 pole , slew wound motor , enclosed gearbox.!! 😊too, just look at those cranks and valve gear.! Bachmann need to look a this and take note...!.

@SMTMainline

Ай бұрын

I wish they still made them. This thing has so much torque.

These models are very very good for the day, Hornby only reached this standard of engineering in the 90s !! , with some extra detailing and a repaint, its got a slew wound 7 pole motor too, amazing.!!this engine would look good on any layout today, certainly no worse than any Bachmann new product

I love the way that engine looks ,like it’s been left in a shed or a roundhouse for years

Great video, as always! My only complaint: that gnarly-lookin thumbnail! Kept drawing my attention!

I had a Varney Old Lady in my early teens (circa 1960). It was decorated for the Southern RR and was green. It looked great on my scratch-built turntable, but I never got it running well. I had few skills and no money back then. Memories.

Thank you. I had something similar years ago. But wasn't able to figure it out. But your info gives me new confidence.

You have a fine example of gordon varneys equipment. That is his super motor with gearbox scewwound really ahead of its time the drivers should be sprung too. There was also a super pacific. Great find as inused to have several when i was younger. I am very envious. Lol

@SMTMainline

4 жыл бұрын

The best I've seen on a modern locomotive is a skew-wound 5-pole so I really wasn't expecting this. I'm going to be on the hunt for similar locomotives. Thanks for sharing some of the history on this piece.

More poles makes for smoother operation as well, one of the main reasons electronics manufacturers would opt for more poles on a motor

7 pole? Daaaaaaaang [EDIT]: For anyone wondering what happened to his nail, he was drilling into a piece of wood, the bit slipped, and it drove into his nail. Can we get an F in the chat for Harrison's nail?

@theconnecticutrailfan17

4 жыл бұрын

F

@bluskidu

4 жыл бұрын

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@drgwproductions8866

4 жыл бұрын

F

@mistermadmachine6311

4 жыл бұрын

What he needs is a bandage

@daynadodge7488

4 жыл бұрын

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I like the new format of the video, especially the music. That was a very different locomotive from the normal. Fantastic job on the restoration.

Old Varney engines are great runners when you can find them, Great job.

Great video man, great to see a real time restoration step by step. I'm sure it will help someone with a varney out there!

Great job Harrison. It looks like the Varney HO Super Consolidation (Heavy) from the 1951 catalog and parts list. Now we have to find the tender, the smokebox door and perhaps a few other bits. You have the makings of a true, vintage, collector's item. To add to some other comments I agree that with the 7-pole motor , etc. that locomotive should be able to pull several freight cars at a very slow speed. (Watch your voltage. Some of those older motors were designed for lower voltages than what we currently use.) Impressive job of resurrecting this one. Nicely done!

@DukeOfTrains

2 жыл бұрын

Even if he did find the original tender varney had custom couplings for the sockets

Great find, and good work. Let's see it when you get it coupled with a tender and repainted, etc.

That's such a big doofy engine, I really love it! It definitely needs some paint, a tender, and a new smokebox door at a minimum. Would love to get my hands on an engine like that!

@czwij

2 жыл бұрын

It's a reading I10. they could pull 100 coal cars 50 mph. ridiculous power and smokeless burning. old Bachmann 2-8-0 made this in plastic for many years. they were junk, mostly. Bowser made a repower kit for it. was/is crude but worked.

You are amazing. I've learned so much watching your videos.

Use a flat car for the tender and add a water tank and wood fuel strage. That would make it look like a true logging locomotive for your new layout.

Amazing find and great job getting it up and running.

I watch every video n I find them soothing & enjoyable

Great and amazing video, Thanks for presentation, from Germany

The quality of American model iron from the 1940s or 1950s is unique, unsurpassed. Brands like Varney, or Mantua will always be present in my collection. Beyond the deterioration and missing parts of the locomotive, just a cleaning and it works perfectly. No jerks. 60 FPS. Congratulations on your work. Greetings from Argentina.

This is an awesome find. I'm watching the video for the first time on 03/09/23 and i know you are a busy guy but maybe a video of re-detailing it with some super detail parts and a tender. Love watching these videos. I hope you have a great day.

@SMTMainline

Жыл бұрын

I have done some upgrades since then on this model.

I just bought one of those, complete with good paint and a tender, amazing runner

Great buy, thanks for sharing.

It's a *SEVEN* pole motor. ...Fascinating... I think that's based on a Reading railroad 2-8-0, I love the Reading's wide firebox and arched cab window aesthetic. Whoever made that engine did a beautiful job on the running gear, those bearings looked heavy duty!

It runs so smooth. No jerks or anything. Must have been expensive back in the day.

Varney first offered this 2-8-0 patterned after a Reading class I-10 in 1938. The firebox design was changed to a more conventional style in 1939, and after a hiatus for WWII it was sold in kit form 1947-57 less tender and 1957-63 with tender. It appears the tooling was damaged or lost as it's never been produced since. Bowser bought Varney's steam locomotive tooling and parts in 1968 and sold some of their other engines through around 2008. Although the guide says they were sold into 1963, I looked through a collection of magazines and never saw ads for them after 1951. I have two or three of these around I've picked up over the years. They're not particularly common anymore. Bowser may yet still have a few parts for these around, although they discontinued all of their cast metal locomotives several years ago and may have even scrapped the tooling. As for the tender any Varney would work with it; the type used with their Old Lady and Casey Jones is closest to what would be correct for a Reading engine, but alternatively any tender that provides for power pickup could be used. It is missing a smokebox front, headlight, and some sort of pump or detail on the fireman's side.

You're very talented. Nice work!

“I’m going to focus the camera on the restoration...” and not my hair that hasn’t been cut in over a month. Lol. I’m on to you!!

@SMTMainline

4 жыл бұрын

You maybe onto part of my plans but you're missing the bigger picture. If I let my hair grow out and get some glasses I can look like Garth from Wayne's World. I just need to buy some time.

@MMRails

4 жыл бұрын

SMT Mainline Lol

Y'know, I thought my 1950's Tyco Pacific I picked up this past January was odd having a factory enclosed gearbox and a proper Pittman open frame motor but that is the funkiest thing I've ever seen! The more I lust for dcc and sound, the more and more I look at the projects and retired outcasts of people's collections. Not standard Tyco stuff, Mantua at the very least. I'm very interested in getting myself and experimenting with Bowsers, Penn Line and Varney steamers to restore. Not just a dismantle, clean and oil restoration. Stripped and repainted (if needed) and get them running as best as ever. I've already done a Mantua heavy mikado and an all diecast 0-6-0.

@patrickwamsley3284

4 жыл бұрын

As for my Pacific, yes it has a slight track binding issue with the blind drivers but that's my crappy trackwork. I very much plan on adding DCC and sound to it and doing absolutely nothing more to it. My cousin, uncle and grandpa all insist it must have a can motor to even consider giving it dcc but it runs so unbelievably smoothly, quietly and with little amps pulled with its original old Pittman.

Patina. Old cars and old trains, can look good with patina! I don’t know enough about trains to picture this irl, maybe you know its appearance as it was, but it would have been nice to have added some descriptive images and thumbnail background of what this train was a copy of originally? Either at the beginning or end of the cleaning, to educate those of us still learning. Thanks for sharing your servicing session!

There is no doubt that you would get this old gal running again, Harrison. She's missing a few parts so maybe this is a good locomotive to do some Steampunk modifications, and have a really unique locomotive on the layout. Thanks for sharing. 👍 👍 👍 "I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson

Good old Reading I-10-sa, cool locomotive to begin with. Varney things never die, I swear. The old locomotives made out of die cast are unkillable, lol. Nice job on this resto, I hope I can get my hands on one of these one day. They're extremely rare.

@nikolausbautista8925

4 жыл бұрын

@Matthew Bacon latter Bachamann (Bachmann Plus models), are much better.

@czwij

Жыл бұрын

@@nikolausbautista8925 no. they are not. i have all of these. bachmann, even the plus, is still far less operable than this.

Your golden fingers resurrected that vintage steam engine! 😄

Varney,in its day ,was one of the better Co. in the H.O. field.Noted for their smooth running,hence the seven pole motor.Imported Brass eventually changed the market to ready to run highly detailed models.

These vids mah only friend in quarantine

Nice locomotive and good job.

Nice - I love these basic, solid old time models. If they go wrong, you can usually fix them. I've got a couple of Varneys, the 'Old Lady', the 'Casey Jones' (although it looks nothing like the real IC loco) and a 'dockside'. Great fun - happy days.

I really enjoyed this video. I got out of HO in 1978, and could not afford Varney products back then. The seven-pole motor was impressive, with a skew-wound armature yet. I was into slot cars in the early 1960's, and only the best motors were seven-pole. It has been a long time, but if I remember correctly, Kemtron made a complete line of brass castings that likely included a smokebox front that would fit that loco. Some of the most powerful slotcar motors were adapted from HO locomotive motors. I don't remember a motor with a pancake armature before the Tyco motors used beginning in the late 1960's.

Wonderful video Harrison, 5 to 7 pole motors are for slow speed crawls, please show us how slow it can go too. I so much looking forward to your future videos, as you definitely know the excitement of restoring old steamers to working condition, next you will be making diecast brass hybrids!! Yes!!

Yes I do like seeing your repair videos they're a big help. Keep up the good work.

That engin rush fantastically and I hope you stay safe and healthy SMT

I really like your canadian accent!!! Love from Sweden!

You did an excellent job of fixing the locomotive! Great job SMT!

Enjoyed the video keep up the great work

Beautiful Gordon Varney loco from the late 50s to the 60s.At one time Varney was one of the leading model train suppliers.They were known for smooth running,that seven pole motor is one of reasons.If you take time to finish the restoration you will be rewarded for your efforts.

I can tell you more about it. It is early 1940s Varney Reading I10a, yours has boards added. Mine is modded to a 0-8-0 by its owner yours tired to make it SP. a lot of these became victims to G&D knock offs or to custom locos very few full originals left. Yours is pretty original less the missing boiler plate. As a side note. Both yours and mine predate the class being rebuilt by the reading into T1s so yes you have a model older than the Reading T1. From your friendly neighborhood historian :p

That's a great loco, I work on a good number of engines that are 40 , 50, 60 years old and a little TLC and they all tend to run. Pretty much any old tender designed to pick up power should adapt to it. Again, great engine , a true antique 👍👍👍

That motor was made by Lindsay for Varney in the late 40 s. Lindsay was the first company to make small motors and HO power trucks for model trains. I have quite a few of them in my locos and they run great.

Thats a very unusual motor there!

Quite the surprise for today. I'd say that's a New Haven because of the rounded cab windows (I may or may not be biased, if it wasn't obvious) but those number boards on the boiler say different. I'd say a 4 axle Vanderbilt tender would go perfect behind that.

Jurassic Park but instead of dinosaurs Smt is making old engines run again.

That is a Varney Super Consolidation which was a model of a Reading I-10 class. A basic consolidation had a 5 pole open frame motor and a rigid frame. The Super version, like yours, had a sprung chassis, gearbox and a Lindsay 7 pole skew wound motor. Bob Lindsay worked for Gordon Varney and, later, launched his own line of HO products. What a great find! Hope you can get a boiler front for it. If nothing else, Bachmann made a plastic version of the I-10 which looks good but has a cheap mechanism. You might already have one but one of those shells would make a good donor for an appropriate boiler front.

Seems that a mantua or Tyco tender would work if you can't find a Varney. Good job on tune up and a real nice find.Hal

@SMTMainline

2 күн бұрын

I ended up finding a varney one but I'm not sure if its correct.

Been waiting WAY to long for this upload

Great video. Liked the new video angle and it also improved the audio quality. Well done

Reading I-10sa prototype. Bachmann made a version with a suitable tender and Bowser did a conversion kit and it came with trucks and a frame to get her running. You could score a cheap Bachmann Reading Consolidation or one they lettered in Great Northern on ebay. The I-10 did not have the number boards. Otherwise, the engine is very close.

Hoping you can find everything else to make it whole. Very good.

That's a reading i10. Very valuable. I require that wheelbase for my western maryland kitbashes 😂

@jamessnyder3896

4 жыл бұрын

I have a western Maryland 2-8-0

@katerinakittycat3849

4 жыл бұрын

Are you trying to make WMSR #734?

@katerinakittycat3849

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamessnyder3896 what number

@4501driver

4 жыл бұрын

734 is very different from actual Western Maryland steam locomotives. This wheelbase has drivers of around 60 inches. While 734s drivers were about 52 inches. I'm looking to make h7-b or h9 2-8-0s

hey smt cool loco! i also like the new filming Technic!

I like the new way you record. 👍

Hello SMT I like your videos and you have made me interesting in repairing HO/O locomotives.

The tender would be a Varney or Bowser tender like the ones used on the Old Lady 2-8-0 or Casey Jones 4-6-0. They were available from Varney with plastic tender bodies and cast metal frames or as all cast bodies and frames from Bowser after they purchased the Varney dies. Very common on ebay.

In the grand scheme of things logically speaking, I can't say I'm surprised it ended up running as well as it did. Back in those days, it seems everything was built to last forever. Now a days things are made to break instantly it seems. Although considering it hasn't ran in as long as you said, it takes the magic touch to get it running again like this.

Also, a bit more info. The prototype is the Reading I10sa, a powerful 2-8-0. It is indeed a varney, marketed as a "Super Consolidation." The boiler front should have a smokebox - mounted headlight and bell. Maybe brass castings would do the trick. As for a tender, from photos it seems Varney put a six - wheel tender behind it, which looks better than the more prototypical approach, what Reading actually used, were these four - wheel tenders that look too small for these chunky brutes. Looking up "Varney super consolidation" will yield an advertisement photo showing the tender. It looks like one of the Mantua tenders found behind one of their Pacific's or Mikado's would fit the bill. Looking up "Reading I10sa", will show some pics of the locos with the smaller tenders. The bachmann model of this locomotive (Yes, bachmann made an I10sa too!) has the prototypical small tender, and that tender was later used on their USRA 0-6-0's so they are quite common. I actually have one of these tenders I can spare, but postage is expensive from Florida to Canada! A coat of flat black, with a graphite smokebox and firebox, would look great if this loco ever gets finished. Then Reading or fictional RR decals, oooh. that would look nice! Hope I've helped in the completion of this loco!

@SMTMainline

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the extra information on this loco

@BlaxlandRidge3

4 жыл бұрын

@@SMTMainline You are welcome!

Those older engines were tough and built to run. Varney made some incredible engines for the day.

Awesome!

Thank you SMT!

wow use should see the engine i have from 1950 its done but not as bad that's cool how you can restore all those old locos love the vids

you should nickname the locomotive barry after the locomotive saved from scrap in the Thomas and Friends storybook or was gonna be in the book. cause you saved this poor little steamer and he just needs a little TLC and he'll be ready to be really useful again

70 years old wow

Very nice!

Very good always enjoy your videos.😊

well done buddy good job

Very nice & I like the new camera angle !

That’s a good looking engine you should try to find parts for its exterior

I love the Consolidation Class steam engines. The 2-8-0 was a well balanced design. It just looks like a mixed traffic steamer that works well in both freight or passenger.

@larrybrennan1463

2 жыл бұрын

Except on branch or short line mixed trains, American 2-8-0 Consolidations were not used on passenger trains. They were freight locomotives from the first, the Lehigh & Mahonay Railroad's "Consolidation" of 1866. The smaller diameter drivers were for power and not speed. Another note: There were more Consolidations built than any other type in America. Almost alone among American railroads, the Florida East Coast (and its predecessors) never owned a 2-8-0.

That thing is insanely detailed for an HO scale model made in the 1950s.

7-pole motor - whoa! Would've liked to hear it better, and also see its slow speed response. I see that motor cost $21 back around 1950, so take care of it!

Runs like new all it needs is a boiler front with headlight and a tender to go behind it

That’s a varney reading i10sa class 2-8-0! Very famous for being a titan of model railroading

@SMTMainline

Ай бұрын

I had no idea I had gotten something special when I bought this

A Varney Reading 2-8-0 (Mantua Metal Products had one around the same time of the 1940's, and Bachmann's plastic fantastics of the 70's/80's- Bachmann Plus models are better overall.). Great find. Hopefully you'll find parts for this rare beast sooner- rather than later. Varney V-Motors are the Can Motors of their era; extremely brilliant works of art!

me gustan tus videos de restauraciones y esta hermosa esa locomotora y el motor esta increible me gustaria alguna vez ver una locomotora de una compania de Mexico

@SMTMainline

4 жыл бұрын

Tengo una locomotora de ferrocarril Proto 2000 NdeM en la que podría reemplazar los engranajes pronto.

I did not know you had two hiowathas but when I saw the one in the town and the one in the siding I was like wow. How did you get both those

Hey SMT, I just wanted to say the design looks like a southern railroad/ Santa Fe designed Consolidation type locomotive

What did you do to your thumb?? I love watching these in depth maintenance shorts. I've learned a lot from ya and enjoy following your channel! Stay safe

Six months late on this one, BUT...... That seven pole motor will provide excellent crawling speed. And as far as the cosmetic condition? We in the "business" call that 'patina'.

Boogie down rebuild.........nice

Those old Varney motors are nearly bullet proof. The only reason Varney quit using them was their cost. They were nearly 3 time more than. What Mantua, MDC Roundhouse, and others were using. Take care of it and keep it clean and lubed and it'll last another 60 years. As for missing parts, send me a email or message me on KZread, or FB, as I have a lot of miscellaneous detail parts I can send you, to help with your restoration's.

4:22 tök menő é praktikus, na meg tartós, hogy le van fedve teljesen a hajtóműje...a mostaniak már nem ilyenek... very cool and practical, and durable, that its engine is completely covered ... the current ones are not like that anymore ...

You should build it a tender out of the wheelbase you tied the wire off to

I like the new camera angle

I notice you've got a bit of oxygenation on the valve gear. You might want to remove the motor from the frame, and soak that sucker in some de-greaser....or polish the valve gear with a Dremel tool and its buffing brush attachment. Or you can leave it if it's not causing any issues.

I restored my first locomotive today. Yay!