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Just got one before, says the tax dept owes me $684. Since when does the govt email you to say it owes you MONEY ?

@mykyzer23

2 ай бұрын

Lol ikr

@villiersman951

2 ай бұрын

they dont

@Ober1kenobi

2 ай бұрын

Medicare does

@michaelschmichael3973

2 ай бұрын

@@HoolyDooly-si2zz bad punctuation is also a sign of a scammer ( and a low basic intellect)

@illusionarygalaxy

2 ай бұрын

They don't even email when you owe them money until the debt recovery dude shows up on your doorstep.

Doesn't help that if youre on centrelink, they will call you on a private number and then make you confirm all your personal details without proving first that they are legit. Training people to give away security info to randoms over the phone on private numbers

@notoriousm.i.g.9467

2 ай бұрын

the ATO will do that even if you're not on centreline - I just ignore and tell them to send me a letter or an email to my mygov account, if it's a genuine communication

@damon_8914

2 ай бұрын

@@notoriousm.i.g.9467Its absolutely fucked :)

@Xscapeplan01

2 ай бұрын

Centrelink is broken and has been for years now but it's getting worse due to staff shortages

@D.von.N

2 ай бұрын

I refused to give my dob to a legitimate company calling me when I knew they were going to call me. Gave them a lesson, playing suspicious. A person can have emails hacked and a scammer calling when the person expects it, giving them the last piece info they need. My address is on countless websites I shopped from but my dob figures on only those that essentially need it. Social media aren't in that category, neither are shopping platforms. Callers must have other ways to verify me than via sensitive info. If I call somewhere, that is different.

@sonycans

2 ай бұрын

​There is a genuine reason @notoriousm.i.g.9467 should a genuine caller release their number, many people will call then for tax advice where they may have specific training on a particular tax law. Ot all... superannuation, business tax, corporate tax, non profit... They're not tax agents. Also these numbers can then be blocked or falsely reported as spam which then makes the numbers useless. Genuine government officers will call from a private number like the police and they will refer you to call back to their direct number, an alternative switchboard number and to confirm the message they will leave you with a reference. Should you feel it is a fake call call the switchboard which is confirmed on their web site and ask them to check the reference number. Once verified they will transfer you to the appropriate officer.

My favourite part isn't the cloned website, the robotic process automation, or the redirect at the end. My favourite part is the pattern of having to provide account details, 2FA, sensitive information, and then seemingly being logged out and having to start all over. This is EXACTLY what it is like calling a big company. Australians are used to being transferred and needing to re-authenticate and tell their story half a dozen times before giving up. It's like they've taken a crappy call centre experience, and replicated it for the web.

@bluewren65

2 ай бұрын

Being logged out happens all the time on the MyGov website. Our governments (past and present) couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

@tkps

2 ай бұрын

When I still had a landline and a silent number years ago I called Telstra and they temporarily took over my PC to fix an internet issue using a one off program you give permission for each time. Not sure they use it anymore for obvious reasons. But every day following I had scammers calling me claiming to be from Telstra who knew my name when a silent number should've made it impossible for a scammer to link my name with my number telling me my PC/internet was playing up asking for access via that program. After 5 days in a row of calls I said "I know you're a Telstra employee". They hung up and I never got another call. Been sus ever since that some scammers are closer than we think.

@Slynsmiley

2 ай бұрын

It’s beyond clever!

@potrzebieneuman4702

Ай бұрын

@@bluewren65 agreed, I'm not sure about now but in years past government sites were loaded with malware and viruses.

This should be a news piece Most non tech folks will benefit from this

@colinl9018

2 ай бұрын

For sure.

@tonio47

2 ай бұрын

Bro honestly ay, these kats are sure to get in BIG SHIT when they do get caught, or if they do even get caught.

@bernadettelanders7306

2 ай бұрын

I’m not a tech at all, but luckily my son is with his own small business, for years. . I open nothing mildly suspicious. Always check myself first and one small doubt I ask him . He’s trained me well. Sadly, many don’t have that luxury. The other perk, I get all my computer phone stuff as gifts and any probs, fixed for free - lucky mummy lol.

@amandah1875

2 ай бұрын

They don't want people to know.

@zetizahara

2 ай бұрын

I agree. I will have to warn my parents individually about this.

This is why the digital ID is BAD

@Rosesraspberries72

2 ай бұрын

Yes, stay away from myGov

@tomorrow6

2 ай бұрын

@@Rosesraspberries72 trouble is - the government has forced many employees to mygov as the ONLY way of accessing for example payslips. And to get to those payslips it requires you to agree to terms and conditions - which, for government websites, should not be legal.

@jamiebeverley9705

Ай бұрын

Anything the Government recommends run the other way, exactly right.

@jaqi7578

Ай бұрын

Digital ID and Digital Banking and everything else gone Digital, is very, very dangerous to all of us. 1. Can be Hacked, absolutely! 2. Can lose your Identity, 3. Can lose your money in the Bank i.e. Deleted, money, stolen by? Will leave that up to your imagination. 4. Can steal your Identity and take everything you own. 5. You will be charged excessive fees and charges, just taken out of your account. 6. YOU LOSE YOUR FREEDOM. 7. YOUR GOVT WILL NOT GUARANTEE ANY OF YOUR MONEY, LAND, HOUSE, CAR, ETC..... STOLEN BY? Again will leave that up to your imagination. Don't accept Digital ID or Digital Banking you will lose.

imagine any government entity being competent with anything digital

Great, now Bob the builder will lose his pension 😂 NEVER follow links, go about it the long way 😏

@TechManPat

2 ай бұрын

Haha Australian icon poor guy

@rodh1404

2 ай бұрын

Bob's only a couple of days old. If he gets onto it right now he might be able to sort that mess about 50 years after he reaches retirement age.

@LabworksVapes

2 ай бұрын

@@TechManPat- 'Can we fix it - I don't think so Bob'

@Brendan77able

2 ай бұрын

My question is who gave him a license when he was born yesterday! Somethings a bit fishy in the motor reg dept.

@boganshazz821

2 ай бұрын

@@TechManPat he's British.

I feel like knocking up a script to spam that form with fake info, to flood their system.

@quantumfrost9467

2 ай бұрын

Please do it

@_Only_Zuul

2 ай бұрын

Please do it yes.

@ezlow1065

2 ай бұрын

yes sic em Rex

Thank you. I've had a few of these and as soon as I saw the email address and a LINK, I knew it was bogus.

@adzaaahhh

2 ай бұрын

Same. Like you, I smelt a rat with these p****s straight away. Trouble is, there's always a few poor gullible victims who'll fall for these things, because they don't know any better.

5:00 "please enter the shared secret between you and the ATO" 😅

I don't know if I'd call this "very sharp" and "very sophisticated" but to the average Aussie they might not check who sent it. I've had to teach my missus and my family how to do all that stuff, as nobody ever taught her.

@tkps

2 ай бұрын

I've taught my Mum never to click on links on her PC or phone but her Dr sends SMS and wants a reply of YES/NO via a link to confirm her appts when I tell her not to click on them. I've now put the Dr's number in her phone so it comes up as a known contact but they don't make it easy for older people to differentiate and more of them are doing that now. Recently Telstra called my stepfather (80) over his modem dropping back to 4G from NBN. They rang to help but insisted he confirm his ID to them before they'd go further and he refused. Fortunately it was just a reset I could do. Experiencing my own modem issues I know they legit call. But how are older people supposed to judge?

@adrianfleming3437

2 ай бұрын

You are one of those tossers who thinks he some champion. Your anime pillow not a mrs either

Should create code for scammers like this that absolutely floods their fishing site with ridiculous fake info. Kinda like a DDoS attack.

@youtubyoutub2304

2 ай бұрын

Similar to making credit card declines that backcharge 1c per decline

I get a lot of these. The latest a few days ago was the Medicare update thing. Strangely enough I had a genuine myGov email a week ago requesting the same info. Just never click on links on emails no matter how genuine they seem is the answer.

@MsAlambi

2 ай бұрын

Yes, I got that too.*unbelievable*

@mefirstandthegimmeegimmees

Ай бұрын

Your government does not have your best interests in mind.

The government is the only one to fear

@Rosesraspberries72

2 ай бұрын

Soon they will wake up and understand this. Very hard for people to wrap their heads around this.

Thanks Pat, I've sent this to a few people in my family to show them how easy it is to get fooled.

Wow amazing heads up on the scam. Hope this reaches the right people in a timely fashion. All the best 👍

I have got lots of these. Its a terrible situation. I'm sure a huge number of elderly people are getting screwed.

Wow ... This is so helpful. I've just been done by a health insurance scam, and didn't know any of this. Your work will help me not to repeat my stupid gullible responses. Thanks mate.

@colinl9018

2 ай бұрын

You're not stupid. It can happen to us all, the scammers are using the element of surprise. We just become more vigilant which is the sad part.

THIS NEEDS TO BE SHARED! GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENTS WILL NOT ASK FOR PERSONAL INFO AND WILL TELL YOU TO CALL THEM BACK IF YOU BELIEVE IT IS A SCAM

@Telle875

2 ай бұрын

Oh they all ask you for information!!! They will call you, they will get defensive if you ask them to prove themselves first. I call it the “white collar crime authentication”. Anyway, yes they do. So unless prearranged, always call back! Always check in and don’t use the links in an email etc.

@tkps

2 ай бұрын

Sadly we need to call back because they do ring then expect you to give them your ID (when they contacted you so know exactly who you are) for 'privacy reasons'. Yet at the same time they tell us not to hand out that information. Same with SMS. My Drs appointment app started sending me SMS asking me to confirm my appt by clicking a link to then say yes/no the day before and if I don't respond will cancel my appointment. My Mum's Dr does too but they use their clinic's number. My app doesn't. They need better systems.

@naomimoran5564

2 ай бұрын

They always ask you to confirm your identity, name, date of birth, email address and home address

@lovetruth5518

2 ай бұрын

Yes and banks!

@noompsieOG

2 ай бұрын

I used to work for gov and we would need to ask personal info for security purposes

Dude, LOVE the detective work on the "prioritiZe" - you're absolutely right. 99% of the time, we'd get called petty for picking this up, but in a legitimate myGov message, it would be spelled the British way, very good pick up!

Great video. It's short, to the point, informative and explained in layman's terms without all the God-awful jargon. What I'm going to do is get onto the government and media and push for a new daily report, like the weather, sport, finance, etc, that would run for 2 to 5 minutes as a regular part of the nightly news. It would simply cover any scam that is currently doing the rounds, whether email, text, phone, etc and give a quick, simple, effective summary. It can either be a cordinated report, say from police fraud squad or other government department, or individual station produced segments. It's become such a big issue now that it won't rob online channels of revenue, it'll enhance what's already out there and give even more credibility, strengthening genuine content and sending the scammers ducking for cover. Thoughts?

@TechManPat

2 ай бұрын

Great idea! a PSA

@rebeccatranter2042

2 ай бұрын

Brilliant idea!!!!! Every person would benefit from this daily report. Not every person has the same brain capacity to recognise a scam. I would happily sign a petition to get this off paper and into practise. 👍🏻

That confirms why I do not partake in all this online stuff. Fell for it once, now sticking to paper and phone!

Just FYI: ACMA publically publish formats of Australian phone numbers for use in media and communication that can be safely used in videos. Always nice to see the old "2FA doesn't prevent phishing" example in real life.

I received one also from the ATO telling me my tax return had been finalised. Haha, we haven't even gone through Easter yet!

@comealongcomealong4480

Ай бұрын

@MichaelaC531 Probably a standard phishing email designed for countries where their Financial Year runs 1 April 2023 - 31 March 2024. I know that's the UK, NZ, not sure about the US. Glad you're alert to them!

Great work, thanks very much for the help you are providing people. I wish I could get my parents to watch this instead of the garbage they watch.

Great video for anyone but especially for older Australians. I guess the scammers can't send you a fake SMS verification code and probably don't need to because few people will be entering fake numbers like you did.

@djn48

2 ай бұрын

Yes, they will be assuming that people click the "Continue with digital identity" link underneath it instead. I wonder where that goes. Maybe it goes to the same page as the Next button. That would be quite convenient for a user, adding to the trust level and meaning that they are more likely to continue on with adding their details.

Thank you for this video warning of what scammers are capable of & explaining it very clearly. Great info. Shared on Facebook & have subscribed .

I have no worries about anything, gov. I simply don't play the game and thus suffer no problems associated with it.

Great video champ, disturbing how tricky these scams are getting by linking you back to the actual website.

I have had a good look at the comments from this post and there are a LOT of people saying this is bad because of all the OLD people it is likely to fool. According to an American bank the age group most susceptible to scams is 18 - 24 year old.

@tkps

2 ай бұрын

Said this elsewhere but my step father (80) is now so paranoid when Telstra called him recently because his modem kicked back to 4G and they wanted to help him fix it once they started asking him to confirm his ID details before they'd start he refused and hung up on them. It really was running on 4G. Fortunately a quick reset fixed it.

@tomorrow6

2 ай бұрын

It’s not bad for old wiser people, but scammers did get my father (since passed away) briefly after he had suffered a stroke and was in temporary recovery. His normal sharpness had been blunted so he was susceptible.

Thanks man for posting this. I was about to fall prey to the tax scam earlier. So, I know how ruthless these scammers are.

Awesome video thanks. What a clever scam. I guess this highlights 2 rules: 1. Never give out any information to incoming callers. 2. Never click on email links to access sites etc. Go to the site manually in a browser.

@TechManPat

2 ай бұрын

Exactly! Great tips

@anonymous-0

2 ай бұрын

In general, you should never click an email that you did not expect. This is the general rule as people love to use mail clients like Thunderbird

@voraxe3032

Ай бұрын

But i want them to know how big my genitals is in the shower

So many scams flying around, it pays to be suspicious of all emails or txt messages asking for information or to login in

Thank you. I'm sending this onto my mum!

That is a very valuable scam exposure - I have recieved those emails or texts, but never respond. Now I know what they look like. Cheers mate!

Thanks so much for doing this. I work with alot with elderly people. I will try to share this information on. Love what your doing. ~

A timely reminder, thank you. I hope you don't mind, though it'll help the algorithm, but I shared this on my community Facebook page as a warning and reminder for my local residents, many of whom are elderly.

@tkps

2 ай бұрын

The more people who know about this the better for us all. I don't think Pat will mind.

Great info which I am going to share now. Have subscribed. Tks a lot!!!

Very good! I never click on stuff like that and I do notice the weird address stuff! Very interesting to see the process of how they do it! 👍

Yeah, only learned recently when i had to use it myself - but you've got your drivers license number, but the back of your license also has a card number - I guess its like the ccv on the back of your credit card, except that its, like, 8 alphanumbers long, and not quite as obvious. I think, when you use your license as ID at the police station or AusPost, or send a scan of both sides, you dont realise they're using that code too - I've only needed it when I was trying to get a copy of my birth certificate from another state.

thanks for putting this up. so many older folk will fall for this ~ I miss people contact and walking into shops and places with PEOPLE that help. 🇦🇺

I get a MyGov scam message almost every day and I noticed the same behaviour where it eventually redirects to the real MyGov.

Thanks for the heads up I could see my dad falling for this

Brilliant explanation on how scammers actually get your information; I wasn’t quite aware of the method. I received two emails yesterday from scammers, of course with a link attached, but I just deleted them. Good job and keep up the good work.

@TechManPat

Ай бұрын

Glad it helped!

Well. My gov would never do this!!!

I'm not tech savvy and this absolutely scares the s%$t outta me, but thanks for making people aware

The drivers licence card number is the number on the back of the card, top right corner, which was introduced after the Optus breach. This number should only ever be shown to the police, your bank. Maybe Centrelink but not sure about that. The main purpose of the licence card number is to prevent anyone other than yourself opening a bank account under your details. Never give that number to anyone you are not required to by law.

@smith...1

Ай бұрын

I agree you shouldn't share your licence number .... But I've had a licence number since I was 17 and I'm 62 now ! I know it by heart it's 7 9 3 ... Aaaah .. Woops ...lol Thanks for the heads up Pat. Good you made it short and to the point. 👍

Thank you. This is a helpful video. Lots of red flags that cover different levels of scam sophistication. I have passed it over to my team to review.

Cheers mate. Well done on unveiling it.

I've had a few of these reported to my ISP. Thank you I'll send this to everyone I know

Good on Yu Pat, keep up the good work mate 👍🏻 Cheers from the Westside ✌🏻😎🇦🇺

Every government communication, whether email or sms, never uses links. They tell you to login to the official site. Scams always include links.

Cheers. Easy to understand video, great explanations and visuals. I have shared with my family. Thanks again 😊

Excellent! Thanks, I'll post this on my FB.

If you owe the ATO ponzie scheme money you will be hounded to the grave and beyond. If the ATO ponzie scheme owe you money it will make no effort at all to inform you. And if you contact them and ask for it back they will make it almost impossible to claim it. That’s a lived experience by me.

Mum got one of these and clicked on the link. Norton gave her a warning so she couldn't do anything.

Gee they are getting good, I bet a few people have been caught. I haven’t had that one, but I keep getting messages that I haven’t paid a toll . Oh dear lol. In my senior years I’ve developed an inner ear problem, my balance goes, so I stopped driving about 2 years ago for safety reasons (gee I miss the independence of driving). But getting tole fines when I don’t drive - lol. . I bet many get them who do drive. I’m lucky though, when in doubt I contact my son who’s had his own computer business for years - he comes in handy some times lol 😊 Keep up the great work for those who haven’t got an expert on hand, you are much appreciated and very much needed.

Thankyou so much. I have been receiving these emails and deleting them.

@TechManPat

2 ай бұрын

Glad it helped

Glad your video came up - yes I’ve had these too. Just knew it was a scam

good stuff mate, this shit really gets my goat, Immo share this around n hopefully get the message across to be vigilant & always look twice & never click on anything involving personal info

Well done Bob The Builder. 💯💯👍👍

Thanks for that. I've always wondered what I'd see if I actually accessed these links. Hope that Bob the Builder isn't undergoing a world of pain right now.

Thank you for heads up

This digital era is a mess. Nobody can count on it. Wonder when the hackers will destroy the elite system.

Thanks for sharing.

I dont even use my gov. If the government wants something from me, they can come and see me

@Rosesraspberries72

2 ай бұрын

Yep same here, I refuse to use it. In fact if I get a email from mygov, I report it as spam. What people don’t realise, is it’s the doorway to digital identity!!

Thank you very much. Now I became your subscriber.

Omg seen like nothing safe those days.

Imagine the chaos coming!

Keep up your good work. Thanks for the warning.

Good job mate!

Keep up the good work. Thank you for letting us know.

OMG. This made me laugh. Thanks Pat 😁

Scams in Australia is part of the everyday life, everyone gets them and all the time. Some are so freakingly good its scary

Bob the builder really has the shits with you.

@TechManPat

2 ай бұрын

To much of a can do attitude for my taste

Brilliant. Got a message but being suspicious I didn't open it. Thanks for the info.

Best advice on youtube.....thank you

‘Dear Member’ 😂

@arokh72

2 ай бұрын

That's funny in itself, it's even funnier, and weird, when they start with "Hi Dear" or "Hi Love" or something like that. Something certainly gets lost in whatever translation program they're using.

Thank you !

Thanks for that and I will also show it to my others.

I haven't had one, but I have had the phone calls were "we have had notification of out of the ordinary transactions on your credit card" ones. Each time I press 1 to authorize (cause I want to have fun with these pricks) I get a sound they are in the kitchen cleaning their dishes or snoring telling me their success rate is rather low.

Got the same sort of thing but Medicare, reported as spam and deleted the email

The amount of text I get from the fact myGov. You just end up knowing what real and not. Also the fake delivery or parcel ones.

@davidac76

Ай бұрын

Almost every morning around 4am I get scam texts about packages that cant be delivered, or unpaid tolls. Yeah, good one..... Scam can't be delivered either.

Yep, I got it the other day, too. I put it straight in the bin.👍🤠🇦🇺

seen this as an SMS some months back. I don't have a myGov account. LMAO. Reported it in the chat on a stream I was watching.

Thank you :)

Thanks alot Tech Man

Thanks mate.

Yep, I got an email from ATO and Medicare saying I was owed money and to sign into MyGov.

Thanks for that Pat mate

@TechManPat

2 ай бұрын

Any time!

respect brother

Thank you for the Heads Up

Thanks Bob...a kindly reminder to trust no1, share no information.

need to make a bot that just fills these scammers data with flat junk tbh.

Well the Optus breach, Latitude breach.. they have all our details anyway.

We know what you’ve been watching. Oh the joys of having little ones.

That would work on SO many people. Damn phishing is nasty

Well done Pat. Aussie Jeff Moore

I didn't hear from the tax man for 6 years cos they owed me money funny how they don't chase you to do your tax if they have to pay out