Thank you for your video. I own a 1290 SAS 2021, and I'm crazy happy. I have improved it with many extras and I don't think there is a motorcycle that can be compared on the market. It's a total ready-to-race spicule. Technologically very advanced. I come from a BMW R 1200 GS Adventure, and it is a tractor, very heavy, and difficult to drive stationary. It's not bad, but the KTM 1290 always makes you smile. That's what I was looking for. I highly recommend it.

@MaterialTheMovie

Жыл бұрын

Have you had any typical ktm bugs, like electronics or mechanical?

Curious what height you are regarding the comfort nitpick. Can you please elaborate? I'm 6'4" and have heard it's great for taller riders.

Good vid. I agree with most of what you said. I purchased a 2023 SAS in Nov 22. It does not have heated grip hardware. If I want heated grips it's > $400 for the hardware and software activation. I also had electrical problems at 260 mi on the odo with the bike not starting. I love riding it, but, it will take time to get trough some of the surprises.

Have you ridden with a pillion. If so how is it?

Seems your taste in bikes is exactly the same is mine. I test rode this bike at the KTM test ride even and I thought it was great

How was your experience up to now. I am on the same kind of decision. I have a GSA 1250 but I have doubts jejjejejej thanks

@motoken

Жыл бұрын

I am honestly very satisfied. I commented about difference in ride quality and comfort in the next videos after this one and in my point of view, the KTM is geared more towards performance. with that in mind, the ride will be on the "firmer" side of the spectrum (still comfortable.) while the GSA is more plus and couch riding. Both respects are fine its just that each brand has a different mission when it comes to their adventure bikes.

I wonder if the seats on these get as hot as my 1090R? Any feedback? It's the one and only issue that's annoying.

@motoken

11 ай бұрын

I have not found them to be attractive of heat more than usual. I mean being parked under the sun it's the same as my past GSA seats...but this KTM one is better padded and gripper

There is also a Black and grey

I have a bmw s1000xr looking at the sas next in the new grey colour which is due out here in the uk this year. Build quickly is a concern but I like to change my bikes every couple of years.

@benkelly2190

Жыл бұрын

Don’t worry about the naysayers. The build quality is fine. I changed over after many GS,s. I’m so glad I did.. go for it, you won’t be disappointed.👍🏻

@mattstakeontheancients7594

Жыл бұрын

Actually debating between this and the s1000xr. Love that you can hit dirt roads on this where I’ve heard you can’t take the XR off-road at all.

Thanks for posting , I'm considering the 1290 as my next bike. I was confused about the color scheme 22 vs. 23. It seems the UK website has the new color scheme but not the U.S. website. You’re right about they’re not being many 1290's out there, not a buyers market for the 1290 SAS.

@motoken

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it is a very unfortunate state of the market. I jumped on this as soon as my dealer called that it came in... lots of deposits for this bike in every dealership I called.

@kj385

Жыл бұрын

These were all over the Pacific Northwest when I picked up my 2022 SAS about three months ago. Paid $17560 with the full tech pack.

@motoken

Жыл бұрын

@@kj385 aren't you lucky

@kj385

Жыл бұрын

@@motoken yeah over a dozen up here within 200 miles of seattle. Almost all under sticker price.

@motoken

Жыл бұрын

@@kj385 I guess California's got all the ktm fans

I'd say the S1000xr is the Closest in comparison to the SAS.

About build quality and materials you said exactly my thoughts when I inspected this bike at dealership. I picked V4s instead of ktm 6 months ago, but now Im gonna get ktm

@motoken

Жыл бұрын

From KTM's presentation of the motorcycle back in 2021, the material choices were intentional and what KTM believes to be the best performing. They are thinner (but stronger) so they claimed. which intends to be weight saving. but as I expected, I believe KTM focuses on performance on their bikes so I think this is well within that.

Have you noticed any speed wobble yet? That seems to be a common complaint with these. Apparently swapping tires fixes it.

@motoken

Жыл бұрын

from my freeway trip home, I did not notice anything. I also made sure I have proper tire pressure before leaving the dealership.

@ferociousfrankie

Жыл бұрын

@@motoken Nice

@hermannschmidt9788

Жыл бұрын

Had that myself with the Mitas tyres. With the Conti Trail Attack 3 that's history. The Mitas are rubbish. They are too stiff with not enough damping and the rubber only works well really hot.

The 1290r has terrible reliability issues. Agree with the cheap plastic and a few other items. I got rid of the HC1 clutch master. I had fan failure, wiring issues on the frame, MTC failures, gear selector bolt coming loose, exhaust clamp loose, ECU failure, quick shift failure, rear brake light permanent on. Just an endless list of things to fix.

@livetubing

11 ай бұрын

@neilallen460 what makes the R less reliable than the S? I’d appreciate if you could expand on that as I’m currently debating wether to go with the S or R

@kevwatson4228

5 ай бұрын

You’ve probably had a bad 1290 as you can get those issues on any bike! I’m on my third 1290 and no issues on any of them yet 🤞

active drive feeling and felt connection to the road is most impressive feature on a KTM 1290 SAS, and exactly same impressive is this V2 engine where you have the feeling you ride on a rocket. With regards to "plastic" - your 2nd con: plastic is much more light than steel or alloy and this one used on KTM is also quite durable. That´s probably also the reason why it weighs less than 240kg with full tank. That´s a great and extremely quick and usable adventure bike, not a road beauty. due to my own experience, 1250GS compared to the KTM rocket is an "old man vehicle". If you like to be extremely comfortable, disconnected from the road on an adventure bike and to drive a "soundless" boxer (like sewing machine ;-) ), you could be happy with 1250GS.

@motoken

Жыл бұрын

Very true statements.

What about ride quality and comfort between ktm and gsa

@motoken

Жыл бұрын

I elaborated on this on my next video after this one. I would say that the SAS is more on the performance side of the spectrum while the GSA is more comfort....the mission for each brand is different and both are respectfully good at what they aim for.

I just got mine for 20.563. With tech pack heated seat s and grips

@MaterialTheMovie

Жыл бұрын

That's a great price, where did you get yours from?

What I don't like is you get a download manual and a tool kit

@motoken

Жыл бұрын

that is true, I miss having the KTM binder with my KTM bikes. good thing I kept 3 of them from previous KTM's

Gran bella moto l’ho comprata 3 mesi fa Peccato che il motore ogni tanto si spenga improvvisamente e non riparta più Mi è successo 3 volte, 2 in autostrada col rischio di essere tamponato dalle auto che seguivano KTM non ci ha capito una mazza, hanno sostituito tutto il cablaggio elettrico Speriamo bene x il futuro

I agree I hate chains who the hell has enough time to play games with stupid chains these days I wish everything was shaft driven maintenance-free.

So I have owned 3 GS's.....2002, 2006 ADV and now the 40th annvs 21 GS. I keep trying to give the GS chances and I always go back to KTM. KTM has a fun factor the GS will never rival. I have a super duke evo and will be adding this 1290 to my stable. I truly do not like the boxer engine, the whole bike is simply sterile to ride. Why have a bike that does not provide fun. I know GS owners will disagree and they are great bikes for many reasons but I think my super adv's that I have had have all been simply better machines. I travelled on my GS and did a few thousand miles and could not wait to get off the bike, it gets remarkably uncomfortable pretty quickly so that is a big thumbs down. I was always more comfortable on my KTM's.

Donkey, Austrians will NEVER be Germans. 🤣🍻

@motoken

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the clarification, donkey.

@aarsenalfan

11 ай бұрын

@@motoken Any time 🤣🍻

that is not 2023

@motoken

Жыл бұрын

Well, It is.

@DukeOfPain88

Жыл бұрын

@@motoken the 2023 model has an orange frame in the back and the graphic on the orange plastic is diffrent. On the 2023 model it is only the number 1290.

@DukeOfPain88

Жыл бұрын

@@motoken and the grey version is realy grey in 2023

@motoken

Жыл бұрын

@@DukeOfPain88 I am in the USA. Check the KTM US website.

@DukeOfPain88

Жыл бұрын

@@motoken it doesnt belongs to the country. On the US website is also the R version from 2023. That is the new one. But your S is a 2021 or 2022 model. But have fun mate. It is a nice bike