FANS DON'T WANT TO WATCH RICH GUYS LOOKING AT A SCREEN.

@AndrewGreenyakhead83

3 ай бұрын

With the elites heading to Florida we may get some more entertaing content soon!

@scottnorvell2955

2 ай бұрын

You’re right Jeremy!

Ban livescope

It’s totally gut wrenching for veteran anglers. The years spent learning from other anglers, reading and good old hard knocks , has been basically taken away by a new technology. The new angler without this technology would quickly understand the real deal if they couldn’t use it. That’s my opinion , but I believe it to be true.

@AndrewGreenyakhead83

3 ай бұрын

Man, this comment made me think back on an old In-fisherman book I read when I was getting into this about 15 years ago. The knowledge those guys gained from years on the water can't be replaced by anything. A big part of the joy of this sport for me has been the process of learning, getting beat down, then getting back up and getting better.

Listen to Randy B. and Hank....do you have any idea what FFS does to a small lake bluegill population. If this tech stays, rules and regulations need to change to accommodate.

@AndrewGreenyakhead83

3 ай бұрын

I don't know for sure, but I bet it would make it eaiser to clean them out. Not sure how state limits are on bluegill now but all species probably need to be looked at.

Ban it

Scoping in any tournament setting is a freaking joke! It’s so obvious! The live interaction with your bait and the fish obviously crosses the line! Becoming a good spotlighter trumps everything known about bass fishing! The anglers shouldn’t be having this discussion. The damn organizations need to do the obvious “ right thing”! I don’t give a damn what the scopers think! It’s freaking pathetic for the sport!

@AndrewGreenyakhead83

3 ай бұрын

I think any tech that allows you to track and target individual fish should not be allowed. I feel like that is where the line should be drawn.

Immediate self gratification.

The younger anglers have grown up with insane graphics on video games. I had Atari pong when I was 11. Bass fishing tournaments should not be able to use forward facing sonar. If that’s the case why not just use live bait a live frog will destroy anybody using sonar. I use artificial lures for bass the same way I shoot ducks and pheasants in the air it’s more ethical.

@AndrewGreenyakhead83

3 ай бұрын

I like your take on this. It's a sport, it isn't supposed to be easy.

Never looked at it that way.. nicely done

Great take, its similar to cell phones. If you took away cell phones the younger generation that grew up not knowing a land line or pager would struggle, while the people that transitioned with the technology would succeed.

Next can be fishing drones, where the pros can sit in the clubhouse wearing VR goggles and control consoles. They won't even have to climb in a boat. Better yet, autonomous drones can be programed with AI and no operator at all will be needed. A minimum wage worker can launch 100 or 200 autonomous drones in the morning and collect them in the afternoon. The bass can be siphoned up, photographed, weighed and released by a different automated AI barge. Almost no humans have to be involved in a tournament at all. This will take advantage of all current technologies and improve the sport vastly!!

I was told aqua view was banned because its real time viewing of the fish...sooo what's the difference between that and FFS...only a better screen...

It resonates with the younger fisherman because if FFS didn't exist they wouldn't either(in the fishing world). Scoping fish doesn't make you a better fisherman...it makes you a better scoper...that's it...

@MichaelJones-rn2pq

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, well, you are probably one of those old fashioned guys who doesn't think anglers should use dynamite, either.😝

@rdancranston

2 ай бұрын

Only on super tuff bad days ...😆

Scoping will ruin fishing for everyone including non tournament fisherman. It will decimate fishing.

Ban it...period

A 19 year old catching over 100 lbs. at Lake Fork told me everything I need to know about FFS....quite obvious, actual fishing skills/techniques are no longer required to compete

Spot on

Tell me one thing: how does a young angler afford 3 or 4 FFs units. That is the question?

@dennisgaribaldi9220

3 ай бұрын

How does he afford a 100k bassboat and 100k truck

@AndrewGreenyakhead83

3 ай бұрын

At 19 years old he has only been out of highschool a few years. Somebody bought it for them is all I can think.

@lainthdavidmartinez3974

2 ай бұрын

Sounds like you're salty cause you can't afford it 😂

@jodyvess8509

2 ай бұрын

​@AndrewGreenyakhead83 Of Their Parents or Grandparents Bought Everything For Them, This was a good video, But I Agree It Should Not Be Allowed, PERIOD!!!

An excellent view point on the problems technology is bringing to tournament fishing. Advances in fishing technology are surpassing the traditional fishing skills (locating bass based on seasonal movement and pattern development without having a direct visual on the bass). This is creating a new generation of bass anglers who are largely dependent on that technology. My personal opinion as an older kayak angler in his early 60's (34 years of kayak fishing) is that I do not want that technology on board my water craft. That is not what I am looking for when I am out enjoying nature chasing those green and brown fish.

What's interesting if the technology malfunctions they don't know to catch fish. FFS is the same to fishing as steroids are to bodybuilding or professional sports.

It doesn't belong period. Young or old, it's not fishing. It's a video game. Ban it, it's coming.

To me, it would be similar to using a drone to deer hunt.

I think you said it best when you said the younger crowd feels no guilt. They care about winning. They do not hold the fish in a very high esteem. I have never fished a tournament and never will. The mortality rate of fish caught in tournaments is extremely high, especially in summer tournaments (90 %). It seems very sad to catch the biggest fish in a lake, get a check and then release them to die.

Good points. But what is different now versus when this technology first came out is that it is now being used to stalk individual bass. IMHO, that is what isn’t right. It’s one thing to see a group of fish, see their movements and make presentations based on that. It is quite another to, in real time, see and follow individual fish and attempt to harass them into biting a lure that u can also see. It’s 12 months of bed sight fishing.

Do you spotlight deer? Of course you don't because it's unethical. I'm young and I know spotlighting a bass is wrong

Money will control this and the State .

I have live scope but I don't think you should use it in tourn nor do I think you should fish for bed fish

The reason younger anglers are better is the same reason 60 year old boxers are not champions. The younger anglers have much better hand eye and pedal control. This fact is the reason. It must get limited in some way to see who the best "fisherman" really is.

It’s not fishing you have a device that show you where the fish are in real time it tells you to put your bait here that’s not fishing it’s spot lighting for fish

FFS and LS are commercial technologies that are now being used in sporfishing. They're not sporting in any way, shape or form.

Most of the younger was not taught integrity manners respect the love of the sport what a privilege nature really is it’s all about ME and WIN and they don’t think twice about it when you can lose a fish at the boat and catch that same fish using live scope two minutes later something is very wrong with that competively they think it’s cool” that’s there edge… then you here well you have to really learn how to use it yea I’m sure it’s tough Let them use it for practice only and let’s go fish and just see how great these guys really are lm sure no one will be that surprised but until something changes it’s only going to get worse Let keep men in woman sports MLB use aluminum bats Golf pros ride carts and use range finders NFL use sticky gloves Let the quarterback get pounded and not call a foul there needs to be some boundaries to protect the sport and the people that made this sport what it has become and not just about dollars and SENSE

And due to the cost of the technology Tournaments big and small are missing out on bigger payouts and more anglers because some anglers like myself wont donate my money to entry fees. If an angler cant afford the tech why should they even try Tournaments knowing they are at a HUGE disadvantage. If you wabt more Anglers in Tourneys then you HAVE to ban FFS.

Not a fan on tournaments at all.

@bryantburns3664

3 ай бұрын

Fishing is not a competition

@bryantburns3664

3 ай бұрын

I fish alone. I don't have scocial media. I truly enjoy fishing. I don't follow or care about tournaments. Don't know anything about them.

It's NOT ETHICAL. Spotliighting changes the sport to video gaming. On smaller lakes it ruins crappie fishing and the accidental snagging kills a lot of bass.

This is not about technique. It's not about age or how long you have been fishing. It's about money. It's the same conundrum as Carrier Pigeons, Buffalo, Grayling, Brook Trout, Quail, Prairie Chickens, and so many others, that were so abundant we never thought we could impact what we thought was an inexhaustible supply and easy table fare. Depending on the circumstances, poverty, remoteness, and ignorance, those arguments may have had some merit. Fishing for prize money does not justify ruining the quality of a fishery and as the number of users grow, endangering a quality species. I have no interest in corporate profit when it starts to negatively impact the things I love. Let me correct that. I do have an interest. I think tech companies when they realized what they had created, much like OxyContin, should have pulled the product. They did not. That tells me everything I need to know. They do not need apologists.

FFS is a Joke

LS should be banned in tourneys for sure!.. And why you say?..Because it's NOT 'real' tournament Bass fishing and it's no different than any other cheating methods, period! Oh, and the people who just have to use LS do NOT have to learn or know all that much about the nature of Bass fishing, say special techniques like Flippn' and Skippn' , Bass habitat that's off the norm, Bass movement patterns, water condition's etc etc rather than if you started out Bass fishing 'without' LS you'll know in your heart that you're a confident Bass angler ...I also see how the younger gen Bass fishermen can /could / and are getting 'addicted' to LS because that's the ONLY way they can find, then foul hook, mostly little dink Bass.. LS users all PaNiC when someone even mentions or whispers the words, "Let's ban LS in all Bass tourneys". Oh no, what would they all do then?.. Well, I'll tell you exactly what the Live Scope people will do...FAIL! And Fail Miserably!

Live scope is for the kid who wanted to X-ray their Christmas presents….the night before. Insert Ben the bully milliken here… ⬆️ 🎣

@AndrewGreenyakhead83

3 ай бұрын

😆Well said!

A "pro" shouldn't need electronics. Thats what separates the pros from guys like me. Do you see pro golfers using handicaps and mulligans?

The younger guys haven't developed the skill and knowledge to win without it. The older guys just don't like it because it's not fun. Fans hate it because it's painful as hell to watch and waste time on. I'm not bothering with it anymore. Every year it gets worse.

FFS should be banned during tournaments. FFS should be banned on any boat that is harvesting fish. Catch and release or tournament practice only.

Real time data on the location of a bass and allowing it to be used in competition will destroy the sport.. but hey, at least the electronics companies will rake in billions and that's all they care about. There is no moral compass in this day and age. The love of money is the root of all evil.

What is enjoyable about it? What happened to the peace of fishing? The fishing gear industry has turned bass fishing into an elitist sport. You don't have to fish tournaments to enjoy fishing. That's not what it's about.

Younger guys may be dominating because FFS is so much like playing a video game. Old guys just aren't gamers. Not everyone can afford it, so we're not all on the same playing field... so IMHO, it's ruining our sport. Should definitely not be allowed in Tournaments. Should only be sold to people who really don't know how to fish. LOFL

Brings to mind this Douglas Adams quote - "1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. 2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. 3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things."

You can take the dog out of the fight but you can't take the fight out of the dog. The newer anglers are excelling because it is their skill set. It's the base off of what they have built their skills around. The veterans aren't adapting because they don't want to. They also think that there is a chance to beat it. It's almost a challenge within itself. The tournament within the tournament.

@airadaimagery692

3 ай бұрын

Take the technology away from the newer anglers, and they have no skill set. Lol... Technology will only continue to improve, when do you draw the line? If you continue to make modifications to how a game is played, modifications need to be made to the game.

@russellstewart5414

3 ай бұрын

⁠all I see is the potential for abuse. Can it damage the fisheries? It’s going to take years for that answer. A certain number of fish learn from being pressured. And the more pressure more fish will adapt feeding patterns. Someone with the right experience and equipment could possibly be just a hired gun, or a ringer , would not even have to be that familiar with the lake and not necessarily need to put in the practice sessions to determine a particular pattern.

FFS is bullshit. Rookies who don't know how to fish but have plenty of money take over the sport. BAN IT.