I watched so many shoulder rig videos and was always wondering how those guys would carry their gear on such front-heavy shoulder rig setups for more than 30 minutes before going fatigue and (which is even worse) amplifying every body movement by having the camera in front of the body rotation axis. And bang! Here comes your tutorial - outstanding insights from experience and learning - love the video and your attitude! I just received my Kondor Blue Pro shoulder rig for the Lumix S1H, and yur video was true inspiration for balancing it to the middle. To get the Shinoby 5" monitor with sunhood far away from my eyes, I just mounted an old metal bar (from my old stills photography days) underneath the left rig handle, letting it reach about 20cm towards the front. As the monitor is low it does not come in the way of my 16mm full frame super wide angle. Only disadvantage of such a rig: you will not be perceived by others as an amateur - people start gathering around you asking for which movie ot TV company you are working for.

I watched your rig building videos over the course of the last years. It seems to me that you found now a comfortable and well working setup. Thank you for the persistence in your quest of finding/building the perfect camera shoulder rig. In my case I would need to use reading glasses for being able to see any details on the monitor if that is so close to my eyes.

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for watching for years, that's crazy! My rigs have definitely been evolving. The monitor is definitely close to my eyes, I'm trying to figure out another setup where it can be a little further out with out actually getting in the shot especially when using a wide angle lens.

Happened to me on my first shoulder rig setup, it was ridiculously front heavy with Sony 28-135mm PZ lens, stuck in the operation theater filming a 4 hours hip surgery. feels like I'm the one who need surgery on my arms(thankfully not). My right arm was in constant pain for almost a week whenever I tried to strengthen it up. So lesson learned, after I shifted the setup, slides it to the back sitting on top of my shoulder, with extended monitor like u did, finally my arm accepted my apology. I love your VCT setup! I didn't know SmallRig has that VCT rig set until I watched this video, thanks man!

This is the most legit shoulder rig setup I’ve seen! Way to go 👍

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

thanks, i appreciate that!! hope it helps with your own setup.

Incredible setup 👌..perfect

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you like it! hope is helps with your own rigs!

Great setup. I already have a full small rig system built out for my handheld 6K Pro rig and this would be an easy upgrade to my rig to go shoulder mount. Thanks for showing this off with the links posted too! Much appreciated!

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

awesome! Sounds like you have a solid setup for your 6k Pro already! It's definitely easy to add some shoulder rig pieces so you can quickly swap between different setups. best of luck with your build!

This is amazing ！

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

hey thanks for watching!

Thank you for sharing these precious informations! Well…dear wallet…looks like we are not done yet!

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

😁😂 thanks for watching! yes, these sort of gear videos are always hard on the wallet! I spend too much on this stuff......send help. haha

Chadwin MASTER GRIP!

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

haha thanks man! I'm always trying to improve. Someday I will be the master...hopefully

Great build! solid rig, really good. Going to do something similar myself but unsure how to remove for a compact handheld. I think I might put a plate with 15mm rails on the base of camera so my vmount annd other accesorries can come off the VCT-14 plate. Lots of people seem to be about the arca swiss plates but that would add alot of height and lets be honest no ones using just a BMPCC6k camera on its own ha. Anyway what are your thooughts on getting to handheld config? Thanks!

Nice Rig!

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Hope it helps with your own setup

Great video! Wish manufacturers made shorter Shoulder plates for the BMPCC system so the V Mount doesn’t have to be so far from the back screen, though I understand the need to have a balanced system.

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I know what you mean! the BMPCC camera's are just such a different shape than most other cameras, very wide! But, they still balance pretty well on a shoulder rig.

With the monitor so close to your face, you may end up needing glasses before too long. Probably better to extend it out a few more inches.

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's definitely really close to my face. I'd like to get it a little further out, but that presents a challenge cause once you get it our further it ends up in the shot especially if you're using wide angle lenses. The best solution would probably be to use an EVF.

@alantuttphotography

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadwin Another option would be to get "reader" glasses, which would eliminate a lot of the strain on your eyes with this setup. These are the ones with a + diopter, such as +2 or +3.

@KirkFilms

2 жыл бұрын

I tried my setup that way but I couldn’t focus on the screen it was too close to my face

@dominiccole

Жыл бұрын

I use a very similar setup but I use the other end of the top handle that has the 3/8 with locating pins and put a nato rail on there. From there I put a double ball arm that goes from nato to 1/4 and I screw that into the side of my monitor (smallhd 702 bright). that way there is quite a bit of reach and a lot of flexibilty since the ball arm has two joints and therefore is really pleasant to place in almost any spot thats needed. very sturdy as well.

Rig looks great, one very slight thing i would say is that they monitor looks a little too close to you but balance looks great.

@chadwin

7 ай бұрын

100% you're right. the monitor is way too close to my face. i've been trying to figure out the best way to mount it. problem is, the further away I mount it, it ends up being in the shot-especially on wide angle lenses. I don't like using EVF's nearly as much as a monitor--but they do solve the problem.

Nice work! Yeah all the junk protruding from side of the BMPCC 6K has been a real problem for every shoulder rig I've tried. Especially with glasses, my face is constantly bumping against cables or the side of my cage. It's a real bummer.

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad someone else can relate! it drives me crazy having all of the cables and things hit the side of my face. still such a great camera though, just have to work around it for now! haha

@ploufbadaboum2221

Жыл бұрын

hey, i had the same problem but i found this piece that helps me a lot: smallrig aaa 2700. hope that could help!

Thanks for the vid! Really helpful to see this set up. Just a quick question: The shoulder mount itself doesn’t seem padded; after an extended amount of time, does it tend to get your shoulder sore?

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

no problem! Yeah, its made of a relatively hard foam/rubber like material so it doesn't provide a ton of cushion. It hasn't bothered me for short shoots yet, but I haven't dont a full 8hr shoot with it yet...

Awesome video dude! I will recreate the setup for myself. :) But what kind of slider are you using there? Keep it up!

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

thanks man! Yeah, I bet you could build out a really cool shoulder rig. I'm using the Syrp Magic Carpet Pro now as my main slider. geni.us/SYRP

Hey Chadwin! Have you tried this build with the 6K PRO? Wondering how much room you have up top between the cables and your head.

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

I haven’t tried it with the 6k Pro yet, but what I can say is they’re the exact same width, so what you see in this video as far as cables sticking out and room for you head will be the same experience.

Would love to see a 6K Pro compact rig build like you did with the fujifilm xt4

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

yes, Pocket 6k Pro video coming very soon actually! I just got one in to review, idk how compact it'll be though-the camera is so big! haha

@ZEROFilms_

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadwin Great to hear that. Yeah the camera is huge, I‘m also thinking how to build my rig but I think I know where it goes: I have the tilta cage, with a left tilta focus handle and the nucleus n motor. Now I am waiting for the tilta baseplate to arrive then I will attach a NPF plate to the rods via a smallrig rod clamp. I actually don’t want to use a v mount battery, otherwise the screen could be blocked and I don’t want to use an external monitor. But yeah I’m very curious to see your build :)

Great video. Doing the same now. One question: one other person said they could start and stop recording with the tilta focus handle(using the correct wire). Is that what you do, or do you start and stop another way(since the camera screen is not available). Thx

I got half of those parts, but I keep using my homebuilt wich keeps the camera infront of me which of course isnt optimal. But i got a stag to a belt so its no problems with reds. The great thing is i have all controls easy accesable and the monitor at a great hight. The thing i dont understand why nobody makes a slightly curved shoulderpad that follow the human body. This one is a little wobbly at the shoulder compaired to my diy. Also, Im not sure how you change iris, iso etc convinient. Enjoyed youre video! Cheers

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching! Sounds like you've made a nice custom rig that works for you. Sometimes DIY is better than anything you can buy. Yes, the shoulder pad is pretty stiff, definitely doesn't curve with the shoulder, but I have used some others that curve a lot more. Yeah, to change ISO and IRIS i have to look at back of camera or pull iris on manual lenses.

This does go over some valid points but the problem with the rig balance is the fact that you can and most likely will (with enough use) screw up your shoulder blades. The weight of the rig without any kind of basic dampening Will over time relocate the plates in your shoulder. Make sure you properly balance the weight between both your shoulder and arms

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, you're right! It's a lot of weight to be primarily resting on your shoulder. luckily most of the time when I'm doing shoulder rig work it's short and mixed with tripod and gimbal work as well. thx for the tips!

hi chadwin, thanks for the detailed video, very helpful for people like me who don't know for sure what parts to get for a kit. I am only doubtful about the monitor being so close. can I swap it out with a nato rail mount EVF without getting any extra parts? will it work the same?

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

Ya, hopefully it helps you figure out the parts for your own build out! The monitor in this setup is def close to your face. You could certainly use any other EVF mount you want to. Using an EVF viewfinder would actually be best so you can just press your eye right up to it.

‘’Actually’’ Lol Love the video tho 👍🏽 Keep up the good work

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

hahaha! I didn't even notice how many times i said "actually" in this video! yikes. Thanks for watching anyways

@bighodgemedianyc

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadwin great content Learned alot tho 👍🏽

Nice.

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

thanks man! 🤜

1 problem, you cant control the settings from that position?

Love your system Chadwin, very impressive though expensive, I guess, by the time you've added all the bits and pieces. How do you transport it?

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah, it does all add up, but I've bought each of the parts individually over time so it doesn't hurt the wallet as much when you build it over time. If i'm shooting locally, I just transport it in the seat of my car and hand hold it to location. Otherwise I fully break it down into pelicans if I have to fly.

Hi Chadwin. You inspiredf to make a new rig this blackfrday. I have done something similar but without the vct plate. Eveyrthing supposed to arrive in some time. Lets see if I can make it work as good as yours. Thank you for sharing. Greetings from Palma de Mallorca, Spain. Btw, have you seen the lite version of the mini matte box from SmallRig?

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome! I really hope you get everything you need on sale for Black Friday and cyber Monday, cause that’d be a steal! Good luck with your setup! Yes. I have the SmallRig mini mattebox and it works well, very compact and light.

Heavy shoulder rig is essential to reduce shake

bravo

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

hey thanks!! hope it helps.

Given that there is the Tilta light weight shoulder rig available, would you still use this shoulder rig with the 6K pro over the Tilta shoulder rig?

Smallrig offers two different version of the VCT shoulder pad thingy. Any reason to choose this one over the other one with the seemingly better padding?

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

I just bought the newest version cause it seemed liked it had a nice new design and good ways of locking everything into place. however, either VCT plate will work! I think the shoulder pad is relatively similar.

Love from kerala (മലയാളി) 😌😎😍

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

thanks!

How to control exposure and change ISO on the go?

Do you have any issues with EF mount with heavy cine lens and follow focus, some says a lot of lens mount play occurs. By the way tilta says do not feed the focus motor via usb, you may end up burning motors

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

I don't have too much issue with that, but there can be some play using an EF to E adapter when using a really heavy lens. when that happens, typically I just through a lens support underneath lens on 15mm rods. This Tilta side focus grip was literally built to power the focus motor via mirco usb, so there are no issues.

Anyone have ideas on stabilizing the black magic for shoulder rigs?

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

Hmm, how much further do you want to stabilize it? A shoulder rig setup similar to this will stabilize the pocket cams pretty well!

@PowersBenzoCoaching

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadwin There's not stabilization in the blackmagic, so unless you're have stabilized lens and expensive mount, an over the shoulder is going to yield a lot of movement. That's been my experience anyway.

@StuffAboutStuff

9 ай бұрын

Yep - I had to stabilize shoulder rigged pocket 6k pro footage in post as it was super shaky - albeit we were getting macro shots with it but that was our only option on the day given the time constraints. Obviously macroi should really be off a tripod but we literally couldnt mount one in the space and didnt have a gimbal available for that camera at the time. @@PowersBenzoCoaching

what slider is that you are using towards the end of the video?

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

It's the Syrp Magic Carpet Pro! By far my favorite slider I've ever used. geni.us/SYRP I really should make a video about it....

How do you change settings fast if you need to? Otherwise I love your setup

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

I just tilt it off my shoulder and out in front enough so I can grip with my hand to change settings and see the lcd. it's harder to change settings on the fly with these dslr cameras on shoulder rigs. with cinema dng cams like the sony FS5 or canon c300 etc., the grip handles have tons of buttons and knobs built into them for changing basic camera settings.

@guidedvisionsmedia

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadwin I really love the shoulder rig look with a heavier setup but I may try the port keys monitors as a solution. Only think I wish was for a handle that could control the ND filters!

1:27 Sound effect LOL

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

😂 yep

Would you switch the monitor to an EVF instead?

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

yes. if i had an EVF i would use it with this setup instead. makes a bit more sense for ergonomics and viewing ease.

How do you trigger the record?

How to put that huge shoulder mount onto a tripod... well, get a huge receiver mount

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

exactly! haha it's really the only way with a shoulder rig like this

How to rec and stop?

What’s the dolly and tripod you are using?

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

I'm using the Syrp Magic Carpet pro slider. geni.us/SYRP tripod is from iFootage. geni.us/iFootageTripod

What's the length of that slider?

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

it's a 3 ft slider. but I also have a 2 ft track. so when combined it's 5ft total!

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which slider was that?

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

it's the the Syrp Magic Carpet Pro! great slider. geni.us/SYRP

easyrig, that's what pro are using

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

True, they do use easy rigs, mostly for handheld work. Shoulder rigs are still Widely used and aren’t going anywhere for a long time, since it’s a whole look of its own.

Да это пока молодой ещё можешь возле носа монитор держать, а через пять лет глаза сломаешь...

There is no way to properly rig a BMPCC to a shoulder rig. It's just not possible because of the awful design. They are really designed to be on a tripod or used in a studio setup. You'd be better off buying and old BM Micro 4k and a Video assist 5" 12G. That would be a better setup. I've been trying to rig my 4K for a month now and the only way to do t is to have your head tilted sideways for the entire shoot. BM really needs to come out with that box camera that EVERYONE has been asking for.

@chadwin

Жыл бұрын

Yeah honestly I agree with you! I’ve actually done quite a few shoots with the BMPCC6K on a shoulder rig and it’s uncomfortable for my head, but it does work. They REALLY need to make a box camera, that would be a MASSIVE hit and send shockwaves towards RED.

That doesnt look comfortable. Maybe other cameras can sit up by your head but you specifically mention this camera is too wide to, and yet you do it anyway...

grade B cam lmao

I never use my cam on the shoulder. The point of view is not "natural".

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

it's definitely not the most natural viewpoint to be looking down on your subjects. that's why you use shoulder rigs for shots and stories where it makes sense, also I found my self crouching or kneeling a lot the time with them.

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadwin dslrs are great for midle body point of view. Riging dslrs or mirrowless cameras is a bad idea most of the time. For documentary works any way.

gee if only you could use your other shoulder so you dont get all th cables in your face... oh wait...

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

haha! This is true. I've considered switching sides, but here's the problem I'm left handed and so incredibly used to operating a camera on my right shoulder. It would take some getting used to, but def possible!

@SebasSant87

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadwin I get it, but I belive the op woulndt change that much if you just change side and switch monitor. However I've never rigged one what do i know

Why does everyone pronounce nucleus wrong?

@chadwin

2 жыл бұрын

how do you pronounce it other than new-klee-us? haha

@jmalmsten

Жыл бұрын

"nukulur... it's pronounced nukulur" - Homer Simpson