My review of Avengers: Infinity War: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oIiK1LKuktCZmsY.html

@danjac354

6 жыл бұрын

I'm not gonna watch it, because I haven't seen the movie.

@snakekingblues3017

6 жыл бұрын

i enjoy the randomness of the joke seem to work for me then again i got use to anime and they tend to do that

@xander1756

5 жыл бұрын

I think you're grossly mistaken. It's not that the amount of comedy is an annoying aspect of the marvel movies, it's that you're annoyed by the amount. The problem is not in the movies, The problem is you're annoyed. Solution, stop bitching about it and go do something you enjoy, thus you'll have a better life.

@davongriffin2898

5 жыл бұрын

iamthatroby thank you for telling us the truth about marvel movies but can you to one saying why dc comics tv shows and why some dc comics movies is better than some marvel movies like Wonder Woman and Shazam and Aquaman and Batman v Superman

@denisherlock3023

4 жыл бұрын

lol i love all the salty comments from the marvel fanboy 😆

Marvel is so focused on humor that they undercut what could and should be the most emotional moments of their films by cracking jokes.

@bradleyrenfroe2776

3 жыл бұрын

It originally felt like The Comics come to life during phase 1. There was the occasional screw up like Iron Man 3 but eventually we got to the point where Kevin Feige started taking too many liberties with the source material and started putting too much emphasis on comedy to the point it now feels like a parody of the Comics.

@ClubberOntop

3 жыл бұрын

^^

@bradleyrenfroe2776

3 жыл бұрын

I even saw an MCU Shill say they wanted Jack Black to play The Beyonder in Secret Wars.

@ClubberOntop

3 жыл бұрын

@@bradleyrenfroe2776 ...

@ClubberOntop

3 жыл бұрын

@@bradleyrenfroe2776 Please God no

'There are moments when you really wanna feel something and the movie doesn't let you' I agree completely. When watching Thor and Asgard is blown up, it's this really intense scene and you start to think of the magnitude of what's just happened, but then it's just instantly cut by a joke. I enjoy the comedy in Marvel but sometimes it needs to hold back.

@rosvel92

5 жыл бұрын

That scene is the worst moment of all Marvel films, even tied with Fantastic 4 and the uneccesarily remaked worse Amazing Spider-man scenes.

@batman-sr2px

4 жыл бұрын

ragnarok is complete shit and an insult to the source material

@rahmellbrown162

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah and even though I enjoyed Thor ragnorak. They made one of the most darkest stories into a comedy

@pointless132

4 жыл бұрын

Its because they tried it out and it didn't hit the mark. The comedy version got better reactions so it makes the final cut. Marvel movies are not for drama, its for action and comedy. I don't sit there and am worried about the safety of any of the characters because the movie doesn't set itself up like a drama. Its more like a heist movie. Fun, action, and comedy. However, I will say there is more of that drama aspect in earlier films like Sam Raimi's spiderman movies where peter is struggling with just living a life as well as being a super hero. The only time humor got involved was when peter was saying a cute little comeback to a villain. But to me it seems like they stepped away from that and went full on fun for the kids summer blockbuster hollywood type movie.

@pointless132

4 жыл бұрын

@Unpopular Opinions I saw it recently. It wasn't all that dark. It was actually more fun than anything. I don't even think there is even a review where someone was crying for the whole population of Asgard. You might as well tell me that you cried when Frieza killed everyone on planet Vageta.

Agreed. Too much comedy. It’s become too predictable and boring now

@lightninghood7876

5 жыл бұрын

Your alive?

@itsmecaldo

3 жыл бұрын

@@lightninghood7876 Yup

@mcan-piano4718

3 жыл бұрын

I agreee. Now lDisney marvel acquired XMEN, brace urself for jokes with Wolverines Claws and Cyclops eyes.

@RJIS

2 жыл бұрын

@@lightninghood7876 I got your joke after reading his name lmao

@DarkTemplar981

2 жыл бұрын

@@mcan-piano4718 imagine if Oscar Schindler was talking with the Jewish survivors about how he could've saved more people...... And out of nowhere, he farts and makes a weird face!! That's what the MCU has turned into.

My main problems with Marvel is: 1. There is just too much comedy and it’s sometimes not given at good times 2. They don’t really seem to fix the mistakes that they make in multiple movies, so they seem to consistently make the same mistakes in multiple movies

@yuvyork6915

2 жыл бұрын

This is why I love The Incredible Hulk it's dark, and has a serious tone, where Edward Norton who is the best portrayal of the Hulk he showed no laughs or a sense of humor towards his situation he was scared and was on a mission not cracking jokes

@user-ze9fx3xf8t

2 жыл бұрын

Your comment aged well

@user-fv9er3by5n

2 жыл бұрын

They're comedy is cringe

This is my only problem with marvel movies. I loved them when they were dark and emotional. When the shit hit the fan and you actually feel the tension. Then they completely ruin it with some stupid ass joke. I noticed it in the first avengers movie and then I saw the next few movies that came out and it was the same thing. It just made me lose interest with the shitty written jokes forced into otherwise awesome scenes.

@dylan-nf4ge

3 жыл бұрын

Same here bro. sometimes i forget daredevil and the punisher are apart of the mcu...

@luiscach4944

3 жыл бұрын

That's why Captain America winter soldier was the best mcu movie imo, it was dark and very serious.

@SuperTonyony

3 жыл бұрын

It's called "bathos". Every dramatic moment has its legs chopped off with a joke.

@mcan-piano4718

3 жыл бұрын

@@luiscach4944 yess but please notice that That movies was before Disney bought Marvel sooooo, it was real Marvel who has serious and dark character. The reason is ''''DİSNEYY BOUGHT MARVEL '''

@mcan-piano4718

3 жыл бұрын

@@SuperTonyony Pathos, Logos, ethos is was popular is old movies and yes noowwww. no pathos logos ethos, its all about bathosss. I hate ittt. They should know the difference between comedy movie and hero movieeeee.

I think in some occasions Marvel doesn’t trust the epicness of their build up... they are too afraid of being cheesy that they have to put some jokes everywhere to lighten the tension

@RockEsper

6 жыл бұрын

That's why Sam Raimi Spider-man was great. Those movies never tried to deny what they were. Maybe it's an early 2000s thing. Audiences could handle the cartoonishness back then. Then again, who's to say it wouldn't work now? Has any big budget super hero movie really tried?

@CabezasDePescado

6 жыл бұрын

no, they do that because they KNOW that the audience is dumb

@McShweezy

6 жыл бұрын

yutube jode *marvel audience is dumb!

@waldokleynhans6977

3 жыл бұрын

McShweezy how are marvel fans dumb, just cause they like something, it's called an Opinion

@danielwood6833

3 жыл бұрын

@@waldokleynhans6977 tbh with how people reacted to Wandavisions recent episode wanting action and comic character reveals instead of the emotional exploration of Wanda’s character it was, I don’t blame folk for saying the audience is base

The moment that asgard blew up... And it's played for laughs! Just wrong

@swanpride

6 жыл бұрын

Sure....but the airport fight in Civil war HAS to be more on the fun side in the beginning in order to create a proper escalation.

@troubleman8430

5 жыл бұрын

@@swanpride thats not true. Its just an unpopular opinion to not like it

@SuperTonyony

3 жыл бұрын

@@swanpride "HAS to"? Why?

@swanpride

3 жыл бұрын

@@SuperTonyony Because if you are emotionally on one level the whole fight (on high tension) you lessen the impact when the participants start to get hurt.

@jaydenc367

3 жыл бұрын

It wasn't played for laughs though.

I agree with it all, but IMO, I think Quill firing at his dad was not suppose to be funny, I think he is letting out his anger by trying to kill the man who killed his mother. However everything that followed was bad comedy and timing and what not.

@RobyFN2169dtf

6 жыл бұрын

I totally understand how someone can interpret it that way.

@qwertyuiopaaaaaaa7

6 жыл бұрын

I agree with you, I didn't find that scene funny at all. Quill just gets his anger out like that. He doesn't brood, he acts first and thinks later, just like any other Chris Pratt character.

@99RedRedfake

6 жыл бұрын

I'd say it's even perfectly in character for Kurt Russel to act the way he does, the guy simply doesn't take anything seriously. He doesn't start quipping, he just acts like a dad punishing his son for misbehaving because that's how he sees it. He's just a deluded psychipath demigod so he takes it to an extreme. I think the one truly egregious moment comes during the final fight when Quill turns into Pacman. That just jumped the shark completely.

@Ssalamanderr

6 жыл бұрын

Totally agreed. I actually like how he turns into Hasselhoff. It shows how disconnected Ego really is from what actually matters to Quill. And it's another gut-punch to Starlord's fantasy of having a perfect dad- remember he wanted Hasselhoff to be his dad, but that's really a childish fantasy of his.

@99RedRedfake

6 жыл бұрын

Ssalamanderr I couldn't agree more :)

I agree with every point except for Gurdians vol. 2. I don’t belief that it was supposed to be comedic, Star Lord is developed as an immature, rash, and emotional throughout the two films, so it makes sense for him to fire is guns randomly in any attempt for revenge. Ego has a very high view of himself, as a god, so it makes sense for him to respond the way he does at first. Then, when becomes David Hasselhov, he’s not trying to be funny, he’s trying to emotionally manipulate his son with the image of the dad he always wished he had.

@CabezasDePescado

6 жыл бұрын

Guardians is a bad movie kid

@dangerousdoings8066

5 жыл бұрын

Et Cogito Ergo Sum kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid kid

@alfa01spotivo

5 жыл бұрын

Et Cogito Ergo Sum opinions

@mylightobscures

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I also don't think he was trying to be funny when he literally is staring at Ego with murderous intent, and Ego... well, is being egotistic lol

@rosvel92

5 жыл бұрын

Is poorly done, so is imposible to care

The "marvel comedic universe"

@waldokleynhans6977

3 жыл бұрын

The marvel cinematic universe

@SuperTonyony

3 жыл бұрын

@@waldokleynhans6977 Whooooooosh.

@waldokleynhans6977

3 жыл бұрын

Tony Midyett people make out the mcu to be a lot more comedic than it actually is, and the jokes really aren't that bad

@bsmi1361

3 жыл бұрын

@@waldokleynhans6977 You must have skipped Thor ragnarok

@hood6089

3 жыл бұрын

@@waldokleynhans6977 the jokes are awful. Marvel is an overrated dumpster fire. It’s a tv show but glorified because it makes money and kids like it

"Let's stop the story every 5 minutes to tell a joke." -MCU

The unnecessary humor put me off all Marvel movies. That and the fact that most of the people can’t really act. Good things happen when you use people that can ACTUALLY act. Tom Hardy being a prime example

@apsvines

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with your point of the jokes but can you give some examples of people who did not act well in the MCU

@NwahEnjoyer

2 жыл бұрын

@@apsvines you're looking to start a fight, Don't you? Yeah that's not gonna happen...

@basidiomycota5067

2 жыл бұрын

@@apsvines Chris Hemsworth is a dogshit actor. There ya go.

@Scarecrow545

2 жыл бұрын

RDJ's reaction to the reveal before the end fight in Civil War is quite possibly in the top 10 acted scenes I've seen.

@TheReeelBradPitt

Жыл бұрын

Most of them can act? It’s the type of movies Marvel makes that doesn’t allow for the actors to shine, because the action and humor fills in

if the batman was written by marvel: Batman: " I am the vengeance" "well that sounded a lot better in my head🤓"

Spot on. It's almost like they're afraid to be caught letting the characters or situations be serious.

The whole thing with Peter shooting Ego was not humor IMO. I actually thought it was one of the most emotionally driven and dark moments in the movie. It was very raw and not humorous at all. However, the David Hasselhoff thing was out of place and I agree about that.

@jacobodom8401

6 жыл бұрын

Of course Peter immediately shoots. That's the kind of guy he is. His instincts kicks in. He barely knows Ego, and his Mother was the closest family he fondly remembers. Yeah, he's gonna shoot without question at the realization that Ego killed his mom. That was pure Rage. Ego transforms into David Hasselhoff to truly illustrate that everything Peter has seen is an illusion Ego crafted.

@TheTurbanator123

6 жыл бұрын

The thing that was really awful was when they ruined an epic moment by having starlord turn into PACMAN

@peterquill24

6 жыл бұрын

BrownTownReviews I actually liked the PacMan thing, despite how dumb it was

@themonkeyshead7520

6 жыл бұрын

BrownTownReviews Nah I feel that would actually happened based on his personality but if it was like any other character I would agree with you

@CabezasDePescado

6 жыл бұрын

it was meant to be humorous, kid

I was thinking this throughout no way home, some were so out of character just so they can make unfunny and dragging jokes

@organick6882

2 жыл бұрын

Same! Just saw it today and I just hate how they ruin tension and serious scenes with humor. It really frustrates me

@you12praise85

2 жыл бұрын

@@organick6882 that’s cause NWH was so trash

@Ixe2077

2 жыл бұрын

@@you12praise85 I'll be honest it's the best thing out of Phase 4 besides Moon Knight but the humor just wasn't landing. The emotional moments and climax were definitely worth it. Jsut my opinion though.

@you12praise85

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ixe2077 look, if the humor wasn’t there all the time killing serious moments, then it would have somewhat been better. But the humor was so cringe and felt forced

While I normally keep quiet about these things I cannot disagree more about yopur point in Guardians 2. Regarding the scene with Ego's confession about Quills mother. I thought that was not in any way funny. It's stated earlier in the movie that Quill would tell other kids that Hasslehoff was his father. Something that is both tragic and sad. Quill even admits this. The fact that Quill, without hesitation took action against the person he was so happy to see immediately made me emotional. He took away the most important person in his life. And he reacted in a very human way. Nothing about that was supposed to be funny. If you took it that way, fine. But looking at it from a writing and storytelling point of view it was not supposed to be funny.

@indetails3531

5 жыл бұрын

I'm a fan of iamthatroby, but I agree with you Totally Not Mark. I think the Hasslehoff cameo here is excellent, and in context pretty disturbing, actually. Plus, Quill's reaction is totally consistent for his character, and when he instantly sees red I think it's actually an extremely human moment. I still love you iamthatroby, but I disagree about your assessment of Marvel movies.

@sanjeetsinghk

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Thank you

@robinnadjiZ

5 жыл бұрын

Your wrong it was clearly supposed to be funny which is why everyone laughed at it.

@amf1435

5 жыл бұрын

Well, it was funny to him. It was funny to me. Whole cinema chuckled. You cannot blame the audience for it, that's the misstep of film makers. If you feel differently, well, ok... I have this feeling Americans and parts of the west Europe consider these movies to be so much better than they actually are, to the point where they refuse to see any flaws. I guess its a cultural thing, Captain America is a cultural icon and so on... Still, its weird to me.

@adriansmith6717

5 жыл бұрын

This summed up everything I was thinking during this part of the video, (just without the immense swearing and visible anger) this part of the film can be funny to some people but to everyone else (myself included) this was meant to be emotional and it fits with Quill's character perfectly and you can even see that carry over into infinity war. I would never say that even one Marvel movie has no flaws because they all have some flaws, all movies have flaws (APART FROM THE DARK NIGHT THAT FILM IS A MASTERSTROKE AND NO ONE CAN CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE) but I still love almost all of them and the others I at least like, (apart from Black Panther, I'm not being racist I just think that some of the choices in the film's writing weren't as good as the could have been and also the CGI fight at the end was just stupid.) There, rant over, thank you for summing up what I was thinking, and now I must depart. YEET!!!

You should watch “What Writers Should Learn From Wonder Woman” by Just Write, it delves in deeper with marvel’s humor problem and that civil war scene

@liampatrick3110

3 жыл бұрын

With all do respect, Wonder Woman was a bland tripe that was overhyped to no end.

@amenamen1929

3 жыл бұрын

@@liampatrick3110 😂

@lye27

3 жыл бұрын

@@liampatrick3110 atleast it is not cringe and ugly looking tv-show type movie

I loved marvel movies back when I was like 16, I love the humor, bad or good--- love it, kinda immature but hey I'm still young that time. Now I'm 21, I can't watch those films anymore. it's like my mind doesn't want those kind of movies anymore, I don't know why.

@kyoki86

4 жыл бұрын

The mcu films are aimed for little kids

@Abbad1579

3 жыл бұрын

@Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad Same.

@hood6089

3 жыл бұрын

@Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad yes

@sanketmahale8695

3 жыл бұрын

Watch dc movies like man of steel dark knight triology batman vs superman wonder woman aquaman and snyder cut justice league all great movies

@sanketmahale8695

3 жыл бұрын

@Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad same

I wouldn't say Peter trying to kill his dad was meant to be comedic. It shows that above all, even after meeting his father and knowing that he's a literal God, Quill is still a little kid at heart that has nothing but love for his mom. Even Ego saying "Who in the hell do you think you are" doesn't ruin what's been going on, I think it shows just how pissed he is that his son would try murdering him. The moment that ruins the scene for me is when Ego transforms into Hasslehoff, which completely ruins the revelation and (in my opinion) Peter's appropriate reaction

@xEveNxThExOdds

6 жыл бұрын

he turned into hasslehoff because of the conversation peter and gamora had earlier in the movie. Ego is a celestial, he overheard their conversation.

Wonderful essay and I think as you say, the Raimi films are funny and cheesy and tongue-in-cheek yet none of that negates the emotion and stakes. I feel like instead of a lot of the comedy in these MCU films stemming naturally from the world and the characters, they feel tacked on a lot of the time. Like they hired another guy to come in and 'punch up' the script with jokes. Grimdark is not the only way that superhero stories can have stakes and real emotion, and there are several films which show that. Once you use humour to deflate most of the more dramatic elements of the film (and in some cases, quite literally after a moment of character building is supposed to happen), then it makes the whole thing feel empty. It is almost as if Marvel is afraid of having real weight in their films so they hide it behind humour. And the Cap, Bucky and Tony battle coupled with T'Challa's scene with Zemo is some of the best stuff, emotion-wise, Marvel has done. That and the entirety of TWS show that the Russos are great, and the real problem, as you say, lies with Marvel Studios and not necessarily the filmmakers they hired. (Exception to that would probably be Vol 2, as I think Gunn was given carte blanche in that case).

I completely agree. The MCU doesn't take itself seriously, and I'm not gonna watch another Marvel movie till it does.

@jesuspernia8031

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t say it doesn’t take itself seriously completely. Shang Chi and No Way Home were incredible films are some of my favorite movies ever and they were both in 2021.

@foolslayer9416

2 жыл бұрын

@@jesuspernia8031 agreed

@pixiedustcommentary4421

2 жыл бұрын

Moon Knight? It's not a movie but hey! it takes child abuse pretty seriously

Why can't MCU make movies like Logan? They should give more creative freedom to their directors?

@Mysikrysa

3 жыл бұрын

@Exar kun The dark side cosmic entity And it makes the crossovers easier. If they had standalone movies or trilogies with very different tone, it would be impossible for them to make these retarded crossovers "retards in gay costumes assemble", and crossovers are apparently a cash cow because various people want to see them for various characters they like the most. Or this is what I think the executives think.

Another problem I have with the entire MCU is that they barely deal with death Like when the heroes got dusted in infinity war, everybody knew that they would come back And even though Tony Stark and Natasha are dead, they will come back in the black widow movie then cap got old and lived in the past rumors say he's coming back Just giving out an opinion 👌

@apsvines

3 жыл бұрын

The black widow movie will shows what Natasha did between civil war and infinity war

@dickheadhex418

2 жыл бұрын

yea kinda like dragon ball z

Iron man 1 was good

@hazmanrostam2849

6 жыл бұрын

Benjamin Sagman yup. Because i have zero expectations for a mcu debut

@tatemcilwain1775

6 жыл бұрын

No sh*t

@justarandomguywantingtostu6539

6 жыл бұрын

The only good movie from the MCU

@smogblazer4509

6 жыл бұрын

Meh the end was better than the middle

@dqreps

5 жыл бұрын

I didn't like the ending that much. That suit vs suit thing. I wish they came up with something more creative. Cause they did the same damn thing in Iron man 2. At least in IM3, the guy isn't wearing a suit.....Extremis....of course there are bigger probs to worry about in that film lol

I think you nailed the fact that the MCU goes overboard with the humor. It’s frustrating

couldn't agree more. for any flaws spiderman hc stands to be the best "comedy" of the mcu by miles.

@CabezasDePescado

6 жыл бұрын

Homecoming is just a bad movie

@Cubelarooso

6 жыл бұрын

How could it be the best by Miles, when he wasn't even in the movie!

@Jonathanest90s

6 жыл бұрын

Hassaan Aamer Looks like you never read a Spider-Man comic. He’s supposed to have a sense of humor.

@Jonathanest90s

6 жыл бұрын

yutube jode No it’s not you idiot.

@retroforager

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jonathanest90s i need you to re-read my comment.

This is the main reason why I moved onto DC because they know how to balance comedy and tragedy. They don’t over do comedy.

@sammy1552

2 жыл бұрын

The scene where Rat-catcher 2 found her purpose in life was tear inducing.

@enderethan144

2 жыл бұрын

@@sammy1552 Sorry I’m two weeks late, but yeah it really was, The Suicide Squad was a brilliant movie better than the 2016 one.

@isaiah9722

Жыл бұрын

@@enderethan144 all the shit in the same toilet, you folks should at least be getting paid to advertise these trash films

this is my problem with the whole film industry. they want to make movies for everyone and ultimatly do movies for no one.

Dude this is where I feel anime does sooo much better. In shows like naruto, jujutsu kaisen, demon slayer, etc, there is balance. Like they have comedy but don’t use it when there are serious situations, making the viewer actually care for what’s about to happen. With marvel, I totally agree with what you said. Most of the time, they never allow the user to really feel any serious emotions because it’s always blocked off with corny humor.

@eramos8916

2 жыл бұрын

Anime is also awful. Too much fanservice. It's great for teens and kids but it's not great overall.

@formula091

2 жыл бұрын

@@eramos8916 It's a much wider medium than you think. Can't blame you for being dismissive of that type of thing, but that's mostly associated with surface level shows and genres.

I totally agree with your criticism about Dr Strange, but criticising comedies for having jokes is a bit weird. The GotG movies and Thor: Ragnarok are straight comedies, so of course they're gonna build up a "serious" moment and then "ruin" it with a joke, that's how comedies work. Dr Strange, however, is not a comedy, and is full of serious and emotional moments (not that the comedies aren't), and on many occasions they undercut them with a joke, and it totally takes you off, but in the MCU comedies, this should be expected...

@retroforager

6 жыл бұрын

there are a million ways to do a joke without ruining a good moment. there are 2 hrs+ of a movie you can have a joke in minus any serious scene.

@joeymatthews3576

6 жыл бұрын

I disagree with his thoughts on Thor: Ragnarok but Guardians of the Galaxy does have a lot of bad humour in it. I understand comedy is subjective, but when humour gets in the way of a serious moment it's not good comedy. In Thor, I think the joke that followed the serious moment actually made that moment, and the subsequent scene better. David Hasselhoff showing up mid sentence in GotG2 just made me scoff. The joke undercut the whole point of the scene for me.

@Dulcimer.MP3

6 жыл бұрын

I agree that the David Hasselhoff scene there was badly timed, but I think the rest of the movie times its' humour much better. And the end sequence with Yondu's death is so efficient at making me emotional without breaking it with humour that I find myself loving the overall end product. I guess it might have been a bit more emotional had the revelation between Ego and Quill been done better, but to me I just don't feel like that so-so scene ruins the whole movie. It just fails to improve the whole movie.

@BigBalvin

6 жыл бұрын

Phillydip GoTG2 made me hate the Guardians when watching. I didn’t find it funny when Drax was being a dick to Mantis. Then the fued Rocket and Star Lord had was just unnecessary and made me ask why.

@danielrowson3379

6 жыл бұрын

I really liked GotG2 but I agree that the 'feud' wasn't well done.

This is why even the better movies of the mcu never will be great films. There is too much comedy, some of them is pretty bad / unfunny.. and sometimes it is placed at the exact wrong moment... the mcu just doesn't care enough about atmosphere, they rather install some cheap jokes to "entertain" people

Finally an actual criticism and not " it's just corporate feminist propoganda and they're all the same"

@aplace5791

2 жыл бұрын

It being “corporate feminist propaganda” is a valid criticism and actually proven by Bob Iger forcefully inserting Captain Marvel into the Infinity Saga. It’s just not it’s only problem nor it’s biggest

I may sound nuts but I don't think the Hasselhoff part was meant to be funny, it was horrifying.

@IndecisiveJR

6 жыл бұрын

Count Deku exactly I found that scene pretty intense.

@christopherlewis1078

5 жыл бұрын

Hard agree- it was shocking and jarring, and completely in character for both Peter and Ego

@user-bi8bw9uu1v

5 жыл бұрын

I didn't know he was David Hasselhoff.

Airport Battle must have had humor. What did you expect having Ant-Man and Spider-Man here? That Widow-Hawkeye moment isn't them two quipping around - it was Widow checking If Clint - her best friend - isn't upset that she chose a different side of the conflict. Clint being Clint - jokes. That's in his character. He's the one joking. Widow wasn't. And "If the tone remained mature" Mature doesn't mean dark.

@jovanym2931

6 жыл бұрын

MeehLaq And as for the civil war they aren’t trying to really hurt each other they are friends and have fought together . While Spider-Man and Ant-Man do most of the comedy since both don’t share the same connection to others and black panther is just going for the kill

@crfstewarje

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly. And aside from the airport scene, Civil War hardly has any humor at all. I don't get the issues people have.

@ubadman1

6 жыл бұрын

secretagentman beciase they want to be highly ciritcal of sucess out of jealousy. The creator is a known dc fan. Some of his points are fair ( especially some pf ragnorok) but the civil war point falls flat

@swanpride

6 жыл бұрын

Plus, the very point of the battle is that the situation escalates...you need the fun in the beginning so that the ending hits harder. Not to mention that the final battle of the movie is everything but fun. Same with GotG Vol 2, the movie is full of jokes, but when it has to be serious, it is. There are a few moments in which they overdo it...ie at the end of Ragnarök....but it is hardly an ongoing problem. With so any movies, you are bound to have a few missteps once a while.

@HugoStiglitz88

6 жыл бұрын

exactly

Completely agree with everything you said. It's grown quite annoying. Almost as if marvel scared into taking things seriously. BP was everything I want from Marvel and more.

I noticed it way before Civil War. One of the reasons I hate Thor TDW is because after a genuinely beautiful and sad funeral scene, we cut to Erik in a mental home having a breakdown... God forbid we have a moment to actually feel for the characters, nope, give laugh and keeping throwing your money at them.

While I agree with the complaints about Thor and Dr. Strange, I disagree about Civil War. I found the airport scene to be realistic emotionally, most of the heroes fighting each other are friends, and have worked together for years. Clint and Natasha have a pre established relationship so the “we’re still friends right?” feels natural. Same goes for the banter between Hawkeye and Iron Man, even though they are fighting each other, they aren’t trying to kill each other (except Panther and Bucky). I don’t think there would be a way to write that scene without some bathos, without some levity. If the battle didn’t have the humor it would feel, I don’t know, melodramatic? I also think the end of act 2 needed to be light, in order to fully grasp the importance of the REAL fight (Steve v Tony), because that fight is real, it’s raw. Sorry for the rant! Great Video though man.

@CabezasDePescado

6 жыл бұрын

bullshit, Civil War was not emotional, it was not done that well for that

@deadspacemasseffect

6 жыл бұрын

nah, it was emotional, at least for me and lot's of others, sorry that it couldn't hit you with that punch

@alfa01spotivo

5 жыл бұрын

Et Cogito Ergo Sum opinions

@rosvel92

5 жыл бұрын

The final battle feels more of a rage kill, like Tony knows the dude was brainwashed and had no control? Tony is worse cause he had control. I feel Civil War is not as good, really wish they had kept it personal between Bucky and Captain America, and not brought the whole Avengers.

@mr.l5783

4 жыл бұрын

The airport fight was not emotional at all. A battle that should be taken seriously is ruined and sprinkled with jokes because Marvel doesn’t have the balls to adapt a dark story correctly.

I mean I don't think just because a movie has deaths in it its automatically a dark movie

Do Marvel think they're Monty Python or something?

@kartikadewi3270

2 жыл бұрын

Comic wise, yes

I know this is late, but recent MCU movies feel samey to me because, in a sense, they are. Almost everyone either ranges from awkward, to stoic, or to a overly silly. The jokes are pretty much all the same, awkward safe humor and references to old movies. I'm left wondering, "Do people actually talk like this? Just randomly bring up old movies in their jokes?" What I like about Wonder Woman (1st one) and what I like about Shazam is that those movies FEEL different from one another. Shazam is a cheesy, campy superhero movie, while Wonder Woman is a fish-out-of-water war movie from what I remember. I'm about positive that Shang-Chi will use the same boring awkward humor that the other MCU movies have. They'll probably be the cute, quirky girl protagonist and forced romance as well.

This is actually the reason I stopped caring for Marvel films. I apreciate you bringing this problem up.

What's the name of the music you used? I would really appreciate a response.

With Thor Love and Thunder this problem has tripled.

i LOVE marvel, but i have to agree with you. one of the reasons why my favourite marvel movie so far is spiderman homecoming, is because it's humor doesn't feel out of place. and the scene where peter was just calling out for help really got to me and they didn't add jokes to the scene at all.

DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THE OVERUSE OF COMEDY

I disagree with the Thor Ragnarok being that tone deaf. Scenes like odins death, when the Valkyre girl remembers her past, Thor talking with Odin in the hela battle and the Thor/Loki chat in the ship were great moments not undercut by jokes. There were some like you pointed out but also good ones. But great essay, keep it up.

@nileshkumarvaishnav9550

6 жыл бұрын

Thor Ragnarok is one of the best CBM of all time. Dont let this idiot fun-haters tell you otherwise. I dont go to watch these flying superpowered aliens to cry. It is just fun and better for it.

@TimothyMarto

6 жыл бұрын

One of the best CBM of all time? Not even in the top 10 for me. Even though i had a great time watching that movie, I couldn't connect to any of the characters. Maybe Valkyrie a bit. And just cause it's a comedy movie doesn't mean i shouldn't care about or be invested in the characters or story. Hell, i even sympathized with Ace Ventura when he discovered that Einhorn is a man, but i didn't feel anything when Asgard got destroyed or when Odin died. Best Thor movie? Hell yes.

@nileshkumarvaishnav9550

6 жыл бұрын

Yup. One of the best CBM of all time. Without a doubt. Remember that Laughter and Joy are also emotions. The movie has some of the best action and some of the best comedies ever in a comic book movie. It does what it sets out to do in the best possible way and it is the best version of what it wants to be. Also, there is no other CBM like it. If it didnt work for you, it is fine. But just lampooning on others for enjoying this movie, and sort of looking down upon comedy seems to be a trend these days, which I dislike.

@HugoStiglitz88

6 жыл бұрын

Nileshkumar I completely agree. It's really pathetic that some people nit pick these movies this badly. They're marvel movies, not drama's. They shouldn't try to out serious the Dark Knight, the whole reason Marvel has been successful is because they're not taking it too seriously. People want to be entertained. And the best part about it is these movies usually do have amazing stories, and epic moments, while also having comedy. The comedy doesn't detract from jack shit. Just look at Deadpool too. Super dark, super hilarious. That's a good thing. Fuck off haters.

@rosvel92

5 жыл бұрын

Odin dying doesn't even make sense, is just a sort of an anti-deux machinima, so the whole plot doesn't solve in 30 seconds. Then Loki suffers no consequence ir rage from Thor, despite Osama Bin Laden attack on New York and killing his dad. He treats him as if he were a kid that didn't eat his vegetables. A truly retarded film, I wish it were declared non-canon

THANK YOU. I couldn't really stand the humour even when I was younger, to be honest. I don't mind having a few laughs while watching serious actions scenes or whatever, don't get me wrong. It just that the kind that's used in these movies feels very, very cheap in my opinion. Update on my opinion after 1 year: So... everything Marvel sorta grew on me since the beginning of this year. Ngl even at the point of making this comment I was pretty uptight about superhero stuff. And I kinda regret it. I finally managed to let go of a sorta "higher than thou" attitude when it came to people liking this type of film and I ended up enjoying it myself. Have to agree that while some things don't land sometimes with the MCU, I'd say a whole lot do. Maybe not what you wanna hear as a person willing to hate on Marvel like I used to at some point, but idk I'm just being truthful rn. :))

The MCU movies are pretty much dumbed down for the average movie watcher and kids/teens and follow the same formula. I watched Endgame once since I wanted to see how the current phase was going to end but I think I'm pretty much done with the MCU. I'll go back to manga and anime.

Totally get your complaints its not that the films have jokes it's their tendency to turn what could have been emotional moments into one liners for a quick laugh that takes away any weight or emotion the scene tried setting up. Great vid man

I think you're not seeing how a scene can do more than one thing. It can be comedic but also say something more. The David Hasselhoff scene in GotGv2 shows how Ego is still trying to manipulate Peter, who stated in a previous scene that he had always dreamed about Hasselhoff being his dad. Same thing with the Ragnarök scene; 'Get Help' shows the former friendship between Thor and Loki. This inside joke between them is a great relationship moment as well as obivously having a comedic purpose. But I still get your point. I also don't like that Dr Strange moment and there are more like this all over the MCU. I just think you could have taken some better examples.

@CabezasDePescado

6 жыл бұрын

bullshit, the comedy is just awful, and not all mcu needs to be brainles comedies for dumb kids

@alfa01spotivo

5 жыл бұрын

Et Cogito Ergo Sum aww you dont like the film and you hate people giving good points about its cool story and such?

@eightballprime420

4 жыл бұрын

Rocket Raccoon yeah, I feel like the little jokes like these make the characters feel more human

Ì completely understand and agree with you, and I'm no expert but I have some things to say about that scene in ragnarok with thor and loki and your observation that the movie didn't 'give us time' to feel that bonding and zoomed straight into comedy. 1. The way I think Waititi structured the movie (even though it doesn't exactly align with the rest of MCU in that matter) is to have these characters face adversity and adventure in the same, constantly comic-spirited way. I think that to have thor and loki stop at that moment would have hurt the sanguine nature of the movie. 2. Think about the Avengers and the little scenes between the brothers in it. In one scene, the Black Widow tells thor of the havoc loki has wrecked and he replies with, 'he's adopted' and a shrug. Before that, when Tony and Cap first confront thor after he tries to take loki away, we see loki taking pleasure in Thor getting his ass kicked. I feel that these two have always been portrayed one way throughout the series and it wouldn't feel right to have a poignant moment like that between them when there's no big reason or inciting incident to break that norm (like their mother dying, which actually made that happen a little) They are, after all, comic characters. We want to believe that they'll live forever. That they'll keep on bickering and teaming up and bickering again long after we are gone. I mean, sure, when/if thor dies in infinity war I would not like to see the moment treated in a Waititi way, but still, this kinda made sense to me. (sorry for the rant idk why i got this intense)

Problem(s) with Marvel movies - Lack of creativity, comedy, and dumb/generic stories for their dumb down audience.

@dylanseah7161

2 жыл бұрын

@Snehil Shrey that’s why all are mediocre. Nothing special or groundbreaking or challenges the audience at all.

finally someone talk about it!! I always find jokes in marvel movie odd and forced. Iron man 1 is probably the last marvel movie I enjoyed

@enderethan144

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah man the last Marvel Movie I actually enjoyed was Deadpool 2. Tbh the only Marvel Movies I like are ones not owned by Disney or SONY.

@justmonika6529

Жыл бұрын

same man. Iron man 1 is the best mcu movie for me.

I completely agree, and I've said this to multiple people.

@mcan-piano4718

3 жыл бұрын

I said to everyone but they always loved jokes and fun. I cant understand others

I feel that the Ant-Man films offer a nice blend of comedy and sincerity that most modern Marvel films seem to lack. The emotional moments always feel genuine because they are hardly ever undercut with jokes that come immediately after them; in fact the only joke I can think of that does this is in the first film is when Scott butts into Hank's emotional confession to Hope, something that all the characters comment on in the same scene. The worst offender in my eyes is the scene in GotG Volume 2 where Nebula answers a crewmember's question about what she'll do when she retrieves the 'batteries' by describing the trauma she sufferred at the hands of Thanos (and Gamora), only for him to respond with a stupid line about her buying jewellery. Then again, this could just be a by-product of James Gunn and Marvel's sh*tty treatment of women, but I digress. TL; DR: go watch the Ant-Man movies right now!

Thor Ragnarok from the comics is supposed to be an extremely serious event with the fate of all of Asgard on the line, yet they made it one big unfunny shitty comedy.

Guys, thank you very much for your comments and the reception of this video. It really, really means a lot to me. If you're interested in hearing me talk about the MCU a little more, I definitely suggest subscribing to the channel, as I have a new podcast coming out and our first episode will discuss BLACK PANTHER in a lot of detail! Follow the podcast here: TWITTER: twitter.com/LeCinephiles WEBSITE: lecinephiles.com INSTAGRAM: instagram.com/lecinephiles/

@NimTV

6 жыл бұрын

iamthatroby I love HoustonProductions. He’s amazing! Especially considering the fact that he’s so young

@UnRealhate2000

6 жыл бұрын

I like it.

@davidw.2791

6 жыл бұрын

iamthatroby I have to echo the notion that Peter Quill shooting at Ego wasn't comedy, everything that followed was. He meant to seriously kill Ego, and Ego was only protected by his plot armour.

@spinakker14

6 жыл бұрын

you are right, but you draw the wrong conclusions. Indeed, these movies are tonally all over the place, but it's only your problem: you want complex characters, gripping drama, themes, in short, you want serious movies. But you have to see that these movies are: 1: superhero movies, 2: blockbuster movies. Neither genre lends itself to too much seriousness. These movies have to cater to large audiences, and as you can see from the box office numbers, they succeed. If you want serious superhero movies, you have to look elsewhere: the Nolan movies, Watchmen, Super, Kick Ass, Mystery Men, Chronicle.... but since they are more serious, and less interested in spectacle, they in turn don't bring that much profit either, with maybe the exception of the Batman trilogy

@Christian_from_Copenhagen

6 жыл бұрын

Minor grammar thing: it’s Les Cinéphiles

Honestly the comedy in Gotg 2 felt straight out from an Adam Sandler movie and i fucking haaaaaaaatee the pacman scene

I completely agree that marvel needs to reign in their use of bathos for comedic purposes, they shouldn't stop using it completely because if done right, it can really be meaningful and say something about the characters (adventure time has mastered this I find). But that doesn't stop guardians vol. 2 from being my favourite Marvel film.

@justalonelyblobfish8440

6 жыл бұрын

LJLvids I think Bathos can work, it just depending on the timing. Good example in the MCU is when Hulk was beating up Loki mid-monologue in the Avengers. It undercuts Loki's dramatic speech, but doesn't actually undercut any legitimate drama. The issue with a lot of more recent MCU films is that their use of bathos impedes on legitimate dramatic moments.

@LJLvids

6 жыл бұрын

Just a Lonely Blobfish that's kinda what i said wasn't it? I said they overuse it and because if used apropriately it can be really effectieve

@justalonelyblobfish8440

6 жыл бұрын

LJLvids Oh sorry, must have misinterpreted you.

@LJLvids

6 жыл бұрын

Just a Lonely Blobfish don't worry about it, things like that happen.

@CabezasDePescado

6 жыл бұрын

but that does not stop Guardians 2 from being a bad film

I absolutely 1000% agree. I actually started noticing this problem with Iron Man 3. I’m working on a video like this myself that also discusses Disney Star Wars and my issue with it’s humor, so it’s nice to see others speaking up about it!

@dylanseah7161

2 жыл бұрын

Ahaha joke. Disney Star Wars doesn’t have a humor problem. Stop trying to pivot off from MCU problems.

Guardians 2 is the PEAK of your thesis for me. Guess that’s why I keep forgetting it came out last year

@RobyFN2169dtf

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude! Love your content

@spinakker14

6 жыл бұрын

I loved the first part, because of how it didn't take itself seriously. In fact, maybe that's the only Marvel movie I genuinely enjoyed (I'm sure I'll love Ragnarök, but I didn't have the chance to see that yet). But in Guardians 2, I don't think the tonal shifts were the problem. I didn't really care about Peter and his daddy issues (or anyone's daddy issues) in the first place, and Ego is a typical comic book character so I couldn't take him seriously. However, I didn't mind these. What my problems were though is that the humour is much cheaper and wants to wink at us constantly (the only exception is Drax. I love that guy). The humour in the first one was charming and quirky. My other problem was that it became too much like the other Marvel movies, and the complete third act was just one big and overly drawn out setpiece.

@CabezasDePescado

6 жыл бұрын

Ragnarok was it actually, that was awful

@ILagable

6 жыл бұрын

Yes; I completely felt the exact same way about the movie; yet everyones been telling me "wow it was my favorite movie of the year and it was so funny" but no...

@Rex67Diego9

6 жыл бұрын

i love GOTG2 in fact it stands as my favorite MCU film so far but in my case this happens to me with doctor strange, antman, black panther, iron man sequels, etc.

Nowaday the turn all marvel characters into stand up comedians, that is really to much, even the cartoons had more seriousness than this movies, it is just too much of cool speeches and humour.

Thank you! I’ve watched most of the marvel movies but lately I’m more and more unsure whether to laugh or not... I don’t even know what’s funny and what’s sad anymore. This peaked at the Endgame when I was the only one who laughed at a few scenes in the theatre, it was so embarrassing.

That scene with Peter and Ego was comedic? I honestly took that scene seriously.

would it be a big problem if I said the raimi trilogy is much better than the marvel we have now?

To be fair the guardians moment you talked about still feels in character for peter. He is compulsive and hot headed at times and it makes sense that his immediate reaction to knowing who actually killed his mom is to shoot him. This is shown again to be true in infinity war when he lets his anger get the best of him and hits thanos.

Yeah, and in spiderman: Far From Home they make a joke about the thanos snap. Something that made 4 billion people lost their love ones for 5 years, and would probably traumatize everyone, *is just play as a joke* . And it doesn't seem to affect anyone. It just seems like they don't care.

@Mysikrysa

3 жыл бұрын

What??? I´ve never been a MCU fan, even the trailers look like boring and generic CGI mess... But this is just sick. It is as if they were making jokes about the destruction of Alderaan in Star Wars.

this aged quite well given recent mcu outputs

Yeah jokes, its what we expected. We're all feeling it too. Hope you do one on Black Panther.

@RobyFN2169dtf

6 жыл бұрын

I actually wanted to do a video on BP, but there's just not enough footage online to convey my point. I really want to focus on T'Challa's character development through the film, and how other superhero films should take notes.

@mechashadow

6 жыл бұрын

iamthatroby If that's the case, I'll look forward to it when the time comes. I honestly was a bit iffy on civil war after watching due to the hype, but Black Panther, man that one blew me away.

I think spiderman homecoming does lay out the issue very well. That being the comedy in these films are there for the sake of comedy, where as the comedy in homecoming is driven by the characters. It's been a criticism of the marvel films for a long time that nearly all the characters feel the same. I think that's because all the jokes follow the same comedic tone and the characters mostly break there previous tone to make said jokes, therefore all becoming mocking and overconfident.

My problem is that the mcu was popularized so much, to the point the one thing that made me unique was ruined by people who laughed at me for loving it a few months before the infinity war trailer was released. Remember when being a nerd wasn’t cool

where's that jl sigh show video? can't find it, it was so funny

@RobyFN2169dtf

6 жыл бұрын

WB took it down because of "copyright"

Another thing is that the comedy doesn’t really help when each movie has the same type of jokes and amount of jokes. It makes every movie feel like they were made by the same cast.

Please do more videos like this. Thanks to u , I feel being understood among all those Disney MCU fans who love those jokes and movies

I didn't know that Guardians scene was supposed to be funny

In short. There's a right place and right time for everything. Knowing what they are is the key. Good video.

I actually kinda disagree on your criticism of civil war losing its tone. Most of the comedy there is produced by ant man and spider man, both of whom are naturally funny and relatively new recruits who don't understand the magnanimity of the event and the stakes involved. SO technically they were just being themselves and helping out whoever asked them for help.

@FieldMarshalFeels

4 жыл бұрын

Unless you're a comic book fan, that argument falls flat.

@jaydenc367

4 жыл бұрын

@@FieldMarshalFeels eh...not here with the characters. I mean I think they do get it but they are still rather comedic at times

@abdmin3268

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaydenc367 finally someone who understands, like obviously starlord is gonna be starlord and antman is gonna be antman even in a team up movie, thats why the jokes in infinity war works so well, the quips are mostly from the character who naturally quips and joke around, ironman, spiderman, guardians, antman and so on

@abdmin3268

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaydenc367 finally someone who understands, like obviously starlord is gonna be starlord and antman is gonna be antman even in a team up movie, thats why the jokes in infinity war works so well, the quips are mostly from the character who naturally quips and joke around, ironman, spiderman, guardians, antman and so on

@jaydenc367

3 жыл бұрын

@@abdmin3268 yep

I agree that the comedy is sometimes poorly timed, but you can't call this a "big" problem for Marvel. Marvel is doing great, its one of the highest grossing franchises of all time and it regularly breaks box office records no matter the comedy level of each film. The movies aren't masterpieces of film but they're not meant to be. They're meant to be broad appeal money machines and they succeed at that more than any other franchise out right now. I agree that the comedy should be managed and that it COULD become a "big problem" for Marvel. But right now it's not a problem, people are still paying hundreds of millions to a billion to see each film. It's not a problem until the market says it is.

@RobyFN2169dtf

6 жыл бұрын

Look at the title of the video, man. This is MY problem. This is why I don't connect to these movies as much as I wish I could. The comedy ruins dramatic moments for me.

@CabezasDePescado

6 жыл бұрын

It is the biggest and main problem with the mcu, the sucess does not mean they are actual good movies, kid

@Jonathanest90s

6 жыл бұрын

yutube jode Of course they’re are good movies. This is why people keep seeing them. You are a fucking dumbass. Or maybe you are a DCEU fan just jealous so much on Marvel’s success.

@UCS_B_MrityunjayJha

6 жыл бұрын

Alicia Changsan no Bollywood us a crap on bother level where i literally see fault in almost every scenes

Who THE FUCK laughed during Quill Shooting Ego and him turning into Hasselhoff?

@Mysikrysa

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, I didn´t. I don´t think it was supposed to be funny. Starlord was angry and Ego tried to manipulate him through taking a form of his favourite actor from his childhood.

Amusingly enough, Black Widow suggests that the giant is going to topple. There's more fundamental problems with the MCU than just how it uses humor.

Have you reviewed Suckerpunch I feel weird being the one guy in friend group thar praises it

@RobyFN2169dtf

6 жыл бұрын

I’m certainly interested in looking at it

That starlord scene is no where near funny 😑 Starlord shoots him cause he found out he killed his mom. This was a reach

@travaughnanderson3958

4 жыл бұрын

Yh. This reviewer is trippin

@southerncinephile6258

3 жыл бұрын

WHO LAUGHED????!!!!

That's why i like BvS..

Another good example of a movie series that balances comedy and drama well is the Back to the Future series. It's very funny when it needs to be, but it also very tense when it needs to be. The clock tower scene near the end has me on the edge of my seat every time I watch it. Whereas a movie like Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 kills any sort of tension with its overuse of bathos and feels very insincere.

The comedy aspect/use of situational humor instead of just jokes is a big a reason why Shazam was top notch for me.

Sadly I don’t ever think we’ll get another movie like iron man or captain America. The golden age of MCU movies were sadly short lived and the future looks like nothing but bland unoriginal generic lazy action comedy summer movie. Thor Ragnarok doesn’t make me feel the same way Thor did. Each movie was distinct and had their own twist. Show me clips from any movie after age of ultron and I could not tell you if it’s a different movie or what movie it is so sadly I think the MCU should just end before it becomes too much.

@kyoki86

4 жыл бұрын

Well it's ended unofficially now. Thank god maybe we can get back to making real films again

But still, GOTG 2 has one of the most emotional scene in MCU movies --The scene when Yondu dies and everything that follows :)

I think it's their strategy to make their films dark enough for adult audiences but also diffuse the tension so it's not too intense for younger audiences. I think it works better in Marvel movies because they establish that they don't always take their movies seriously, and they consistently use comedy mixed with seriousness, but sometimes it can be too much.

Please increase your volume for future videos

Hmm...I respectfully (In general) disagree. The thing I like about the Marvel films is that they ride the line between taking themselves too seriously and being a little lighter. That’s what makes them watchable and most “serious” superhero movies unwatchable, to me. The only “serious” superhero movies that worked for me were the Dark Knight films because they earned their tone with drama, and their foundations weren’t quite as ludicrous. That might be the best way I could sum it up quickly. I don’t think the Marvel movies would work without these jokes. I certainly know my parents wouldn’t watch them. That said, this is a well made video. I enjoyed it!

@56jklove

6 жыл бұрын

Christopher Sykora i agree look i like mcu alot, but at the end of the day they are about people woth super powers and ridculous looking characters. The mcu knows its based off of something like a comic book, but it also respects it.

@yutrops2193

6 жыл бұрын

Look at winter soldier it absolutely can work without the obnoxious Marvel humour

@juanmanikings

4 жыл бұрын

LOL sorry but MCU comedy is trash don't try to defend it

I actually really liked the “Who am I to judge?” joke. It was far more subtle than other jokes in Marvel. But otherwise, good video.

The comedy moments that came after serious scene is known as bathos another person doing a video essay mentioned this but I forgot their name

The cape joke in doctor strange was more sweet than funny actually, if you see he still had tears on his face and the cape was trying to wipe them off.

This is why I consider Thor Ragnarok the WORST FILM in the MCU.

im sorry but the whole idea of 'tonal consistancy' makes no sense...LIFE ISNT TONALY CONSISTANT, PEOPLE LAUGH AT FUNERALS, PEOPLE GET UPSET AT CLOWNS AND STAND UP NIGHTS, like for real, things dont slowly transition between intended emotions, my family members have cracked jokes at funerals and people have taken a break from crying for that one moment and laughed, forcing a movie to stick to one emotion is boring and dull

@Anipixelz

5 жыл бұрын

FUCKIN YES THANK YOU why doesn't this comment have a million likes why does noone realise how utterly stupid that concept is even recently I went through something horrible but me and my mother were able to joke about a bit then argue then cry that just is how life is the people that believe in tonal consistency have probably never been through anything.

@bryansteven83

5 жыл бұрын

Well said. People get fixated on a certain aspect of movies, especially those that have taken film studies 101 and are now professional critics. lol. In all seriousness, its hard to poke holes in the MCU, so I guess something needs to be said at least. Not saying hes wrong in his video, its just not a strong argument whatsoever.

@rams3955

5 жыл бұрын

@@Anipixelz dude tonal consistency doesn't mean you can't have comedy. The Lord of the rings movies are dark fantast epics yet there are moments of levity constantly however what matters is when and how that humor is used and if it fits in the movie. Take Winter soldier the best marvel film by far the movie opens on quips with cap and falcon. It's used perfectly here because it feels natural and it's for the purpose of characters bonding. Now take civil war where the entire movie pauses whenever it feels like the movie is getting too serious. Bucky and falcon noddin in the car when cap kisses Carter's niece. A dramatic fight between being laden with quips and jokes eliminating virtually any stakes and the worst one of all at the end of the film Rhodes is paralyzed weve just had this dramatic climax and it ends on a joke with him saying Tony stank GET IT CUZ HIS LAST NAME IS STARK NOT STANK HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Tonal consistency is important in films and books and any type of story telling. I mean comedies can have drama and dramas can have comedy in them but if ur film can't seem to make up it's mind on which it wants to primarily be and the two tones are clashing then you've failed as a filmmaker. I'll use the Truman show as an example that movie is a freaking Master class in how to make a dramatic comedy, the comedy is never forced it comes from the character and his setting while the drama slowly builds over time as he slowly begins to learn his life is a lie then the movie is almost entirely a drama for it's final act. These tones are consistent they don't class they work perfectly together. Marvel has failed at this in almost every movie post guardians 1 because everything after that movie they've felt needs to be laugh out loud fun so any time they try to go darker they still feel forced to add forced humor. Infinity war did a slightly better job but still alot of humor was out of place and I still hate how they turned drax into a joke of a character.

@rosvel92

5 жыл бұрын

No one cracks that many jokes at funerals bro, no one

@alfa01spotivo

5 жыл бұрын

who the hell laughs at a funeral

They turned Strange's cape into Aladdin's carpet?

I really hated the scene on Infinity War when Thor arrived at Wakanda. The scene where he joked about Captain America copying his beard. It ruins the tone. Same with Endgame when Thor joked with Captain America, yet again, about using the Storm Breaker saying "you have the little one". It completely ruins the scene

@sdggaming1616

3 жыл бұрын

Moreover *I* *went *for* *the* *head* , everyone laughed at thanos getting beheaded literally now from which side it seems thanos is likeable to these goons,thanos have emotions,lol

Almost all the main characters in Marvel are like this, all of them are immature and try to be funny, because people like the class clown, you see it? Sometimes when the character isn't likable, they add their shitty jokes in to make him/her likable.