Link to my accs: . linkr.bio/utterly_chloe . Zoe lee was chosen as the cat miraculous holder known as kittynoir replacing catnoir in the season 5 miraculous episode transmission
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@xaryx2648 Жыл бұрын
💀😫 idk what's going on but imagine a universe where chloe actually got a proper development and she was the one who inherited the cat miraculous bc she was originally Adrien's best friend 🙃
@samsam7920
Жыл бұрын
frr the writers did her so wrong and i got pissed when adrien stopped being her friend because at the end of the day no matter how "rude" chloe is you can clearly see from s1-5 all she wanted was the best for adrien the whole time
@clovesa
Жыл бұрын
@@samsam7920 yess i agree chloe is one of my favorite characters but they make her have ZERO character development
@lumini1i
Жыл бұрын
@@clovesa AND WHEN THEY MAKE CHLOE HAVE A LITTLE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT IN S2-S3 THEY THROW ALL OF IT IN THE BIN IN S3 FINALE.
@theirlmess
Жыл бұрын
FR SHE DESERVES DEVELOPMENT SO BADDDD- The writers haven’t changed anything about her, basically, she’s always been the rude, annoying, bossy “DADDY COME HERE!!” girl. In (I think) episode 20, Lila says Chloe could change, and yes-!! She could! But the writers don’t bother with her anymore since she isn’t that important/needs to be rude to play her part in mlb. Its so bad, and even worse, for some reason Zoe got the miraculous?? I never liked Zoe from the start, and now she gets the cat miraculous, all because she didn’t ship adrienette?? She already replaced queen-bee before, and now this. Like- Just give Chloe *SOMETHING!!* 😭😭
@dangerbuffrocky
Жыл бұрын
@@theirlmess Chloe has to allow herself to be helped by people. She rejects chances to change meticulous times because "she's rich". Unless she loses everything, she will never learn.
@chorizord6974 Жыл бұрын
Requirements for being the Cat Miraculous holder: -Be rich -Be blond I can't believe Plagg is racist and classists 😔👊😾
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
Жыл бұрын
I don't think Plagg is racist. Zoe is a bit like Adrien. From what I've seen.
@liarinafire1755
Жыл бұрын
Plagg not racist, Chloe is!
@liarinafire1755
Жыл бұрын
Have you payed attention in Kung food and animaestro
@aIexxisbetter
Жыл бұрын
@Bill ENGLISH yes, yes she is
@aIexxisbetter
Жыл бұрын
@Bill ENGLISH read the comment above my original reply.
@Rosa_Here Жыл бұрын
1:18 Can we just talk about how GOOD her impression of Tikki is?
@seasonalchanges14
Жыл бұрын
I thought no one was gonna say that! It's almost spot on lol!
@BlueHairedLegoGuy
Жыл бұрын
I know right!?
@Rosa_Here
Жыл бұрын
@@seasonalchanges14 Nice one lol
@seasonalchanges14
Жыл бұрын
@@Rosa_Here Thanks 😋
@Rosa_Here
Жыл бұрын
It really does sound like tikki it's just in a lower voice.
@RoseCadenza Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thought Zoe's outfit was ugly. I haven't watched the episode (because I'm so stubborn about watching the episodes in order), but I've seen the trailer of the episode.
@Lebomba101
Жыл бұрын
dw the episode is the last episode you can watch the season in order. Just dont watch revelation or protection and stuff
@lumini1i
Жыл бұрын
Transmission ( ep 10) is actually in the right order. It goes after Elation (ep9), you'll only have to wait for Deflagration which is ep 11
@RoseCadenza
Жыл бұрын
@@lumini1i Oh you're right. I don't know why I didn't notice before. Thank you. I was waiting for the english dub of the episode.
@jrjigtujlrh.yujeffreyzyirr4285
9 ай бұрын
Zoe's outfit was pretty dumhead
@samsam7920 Жыл бұрын
IS IT JUST ME OR I REALLY LIKE FELIX'S CHARACTER- hes the only reason why i bother to watch s5 because hes so interesting to see- he carries the whole show as adrienette shippers already got what they wanted-
@kpop._.multistan
Жыл бұрын
Yess I agree
@Wise_Calico
Жыл бұрын
Yes I love Felix like he’s so interesting
@TheFelineBunny
Жыл бұрын
Fr but now he's turning to the good side🥲 I'll miss him
@Wise_Calico
Жыл бұрын
@@TheFelineBunny ikr and I shipped him and Lila and the fact he’s with kagami 🥲
@TheFelineBunny
Жыл бұрын
@@Wise_Calico nahhh I don't think Lila deserves him. I had a feeling that Feligami could happen back in S4 when they had a little eye contact and here we are
@asherville7163 Жыл бұрын
For my own sanity, I told myself Plagg chose Zoe cause she's rich and can get him expensive cheese
@mainingkaeyaismylife Жыл бұрын
I feel picking Zoe was just so random. Like literally anyone else would've been better. She's got no proper experience like others such as Luka, Kagami, Nino, Max etc.. she's she's new superhero and tbh I think her just suddenly being fine having the cat miraculous with no problems is very unrealistic. I thought Luka knowing about Adrien and Marionette being the previous holders was foreshadowing him recieving one like the way Alya knew and got the miraculous of the ladybug but apparently not. I honestly don't see how that ties into the story anymore as it seems to be sidelined and forgot about. I feel season 5 is losing its touch with all the drama centred around Adrien and Marionette's relationship as its becoming too repeditive and too predictable. It's becoming boring to watch and it makes me so sad 😭😭😭
@TheGlobe_Trotter
Жыл бұрын
If they actually made Sabrina have a redemption arc starting in Penalteam to forget Chloe and give her more space, we would probably have got her as the cat noir holder.
@RanmaChan
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Soqueline is also an ugly random character! I hate her!😤😤
@TheGlobe_Trotter
Жыл бұрын
@@RanmaChan I don’t hate socqueline, but she popped out of nowhere
@lumini1i
Жыл бұрын
I think Plagg didn't chose Luka bc he prob didn't know abt Luka knowing BOTH of the holders identities. Knowing the snake's miraculous power and logic, only the kwami and holder knows abt what happened before the second chance that fixed everything. Ofc, Luka knows abt the identities bc of a second chance were Ladybug and Chat noir got attacked by Wishmaker, making HIM the only ONE who actually REMEMBERS what happened. As in the second chance that fixed everything neither Ladybug or Chat noior got attacked by the akuma, making not even Plagg or Tikki know about Luka knowing both of the holder's identities.
@mainingkaeyaismylife
Жыл бұрын
@@lumini1i I never said plag knew...ik that only Luka knows? Why u go off on a rant about something i didn't say? Im genuinely confused did I word something wrong?
@Notsofiathefirst Жыл бұрын
Imagine this: Similar to how Marinette had no choice but to tell Alya that she’s Ladybug. What if Adrien tells someone like Chloe, Kagami, or someone else that Adrien is acquainted with that he is Chat Noir. This would’ve given that specific character a purpose as to why they could be the new holder of the Cat Miraculous. (Wasted potential is everywhere 😭)
@Tangerine2600
Жыл бұрын
Lmao imagine if he tells luka
@LivesInHerBooks
Жыл бұрын
@@Tangerine2600 "...ok" "You aren't that surprised?" "Nah bro, I sort of already knew like 3 months ago" "...I'm Sorry W H A T." (the reveal is more of a reveal to Adrien then to Luka lol I love that)
@Notsofiathefirst
Жыл бұрын
@@LivesInHerBooksYeah 😂
@theirlmess
Жыл бұрын
Ikr!! I was literally exactly thinking this when Mari told Alya that she was ladybug- Like, why does Mari get a backup ladybug, whilst Adrien has to do stuff on his own and be a depressed little cat-???? 😭💀
@rodreimago7266
Жыл бұрын
Uh yh… Nino???? 👓
@millicentgordon5427 Жыл бұрын
i dont know why but i love the idea of marinette and chloe being good friends,i think their dynamic would be interesting but unfortunately thomas Astruc says chloe will never be a good person,its weird that someone could hate a character he made so much, im starting to think that maybe chloe was based off of someone thomas hates in real life
@tillyurboi
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Chloe is based off someone Thomas hates, I think I heard that Thomas based Chloe off his bully from his youth? Idk I heard it somewhere correct me if I'm wrong
@millicentgordon5427
Жыл бұрын
@@tillyurboi I dont really know that just came to my mind
@tillyurboi
Жыл бұрын
@@millicentgordon5427 honestly it would be kinda good to see them as friends tbh. if only thomas made chloe's character more interesting they might be good friends
@millicentgordon5427
Жыл бұрын
@@tillyurboi exactly,I just like the idea if marinette having a friend who is mean,as as I said their dynamic would be interesting to watch
@Sarah_34210
Жыл бұрын
Chloe was based off of his freaking high-school bully
@AliPlaysRoblox Жыл бұрын
I want the cat miraculous to stay with Adrien!🖤
@stayhann
Жыл бұрын
SAMEEEE
@Mx_Ash
Жыл бұрын
Sameee
@miracaholic
Жыл бұрын
Same!😢😢
@samsam7920
Жыл бұрын
i want is too but it slowly started destroying his mental health throughout the seasons slowly struggling between his love for ladybug and marinette
@strawberry046
Жыл бұрын
Same
@TheFelineBunny Жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing! They want her to look useful and want the viewers to like her. But with that outfit? Lol no way! I thought Plagg gave people best outfits😭 Also, she was so perfect throughout the episode as KittyNoire that we didn't get much interest in her.
@miracaholic Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you on Zoe’s outfit it’s just ugly. The first time I saw it that was my first thought.💀
@vintage_oddities
Жыл бұрын
its not that bad its just the lips 😭
@slaybutton1692 Жыл бұрын
Tbh, Plagg picking Zoe didn't feel that bad to me Plagg is a very chaotic individual, him gravitating towards the one classmate that was thinking differently to the rest of the class makes sense What I didn't like was how they had to paint the rest of the class in a worse light just for Plaggs reasoning to make sense He could've been inclined towards Zoe for many reasons like her style being unique or her saying something funny that he liked, but they chose to make the entire class terrible friends to Marinette just so Zoe could be "The nice one that actually cares" so Plagg could pick her I don't mind Zoe being picked per se, it could've been pulled off, I do mind the reason she was picked being rlly bad
@imasaiko_ Жыл бұрын
I don't watch this show anymore but everyday I'm more surprised at the terrible decisions that writers make! I miss season 2 when Chloe was slayful
@fate7418 Жыл бұрын
At first I was like: I don’t mind Zoe being Kitty Noir, we actually get to see who she is And then I started being like: *Wai- why Zoe? Why not Kagami or Luka, they actually know what their doing-*
@starring8847
Жыл бұрын
Love I think
@miss_chelles1338 Жыл бұрын
Simple..... thomas astruc 😒😂 But in all seriousness why not nino instead like- that would've been PERFECT. I would've LOVED to see him in that cat suit. 😭
@X2creator12
Жыл бұрын
Yeah he was gonna be chosen but the plagg was like, "oh it will be the same problem, they will be inlove"
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
Жыл бұрын
Because Nino has been a terrible friend to Adrien lately!
@miss_chelles1338
Жыл бұрын
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll . Please.... explain. I'm REALLY getting sick and tried of that excuse/lie. 😑
@flxra Жыл бұрын
Kitty Noire looks like a rip-off version of Cat Woman with those purple nails and gloves, ready to rob a bank instead of saving Paris 😂
@zyshock
Жыл бұрын
No she just looks like she fell in paint
@Wise_Calico Жыл бұрын
Why does she sound so good as Tikki she actually sounds like her
@X2creator12 Жыл бұрын
I agree, luka should of got the cat miraculous instead, not being sexist or anything but 1. I think 1 girl and 1 boy would be a better duo, 2. It would be very funny since the new ladybug holder knows who ladybug is, and if luka was the new cat holder then he would know who cat noir is (also ladybug but u get it) and finally 3. I think luka is the second most intresting male character (1st being adrien) so thats my opinion and thoughts
@michaelbrawls1410
Жыл бұрын
and the lipstic is so ugly
@brodypl5804 Жыл бұрын
Fr Plagg could have chosen literally anyone he has a positive expierience with, or a ex holder he knows the identeties of. That includes: Luka, Kagami, Max and Rose. He couldn't pick Nino because of Alya being his girlfriend. And if we wanted some hella juicy drama... what if Plagg picked... Nathalie.
@urfavdoha8859 Жыл бұрын
We want a review of episode 20, Felix being in love with Kagami and Ladynoir let him go with the Peakok miraculous
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
Жыл бұрын
I love Feligami. Honestly a better ship than Adrienette. In my opinion.
@lumityviktuuristanartist4100
Жыл бұрын
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll yeah I agree , it needs more chemistry and it will work
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
Жыл бұрын
@@lumityviktuuristanartist4100 Yep. Agreed!^^
@LivesInHerBooks
Жыл бұрын
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll it's better than Adrianette because they actually talk to each other and it dosent take 3 seasons!! (Seriously Adrianette should take notes)
@fatherplatypus2316 Жыл бұрын
The show has serious problem with pacing. Half the season they just do things randomly that dont even matter, then one episode they just shove everything and solve everything without any build up and expect us to call the writers genius, and thats exactly what half the fandom did. Many people praised the show without taking a second to actually judge and give proper feedback. The writers aware of this, so they just do below bare minimum and they know half the fandom will praise them regardless as long as they got Adrienette or Ladynoir moment
@kamariakhan8472 Жыл бұрын
The green hair and lipstick is what’s doing it for me, and I still think it should’ve been luka or kagami or something
@Abitopia Жыл бұрын
The reason for not choosing nino is pretty stupid. Do they expect they, two characters in a relationship with each-other, will somehow fall in love with their new alter-egos??
@halllloooooooooo356
10 ай бұрын
that is... an interesting idea
@xxaveragewillowxx10 ай бұрын
they did Zoe so dirty with the outfit. I don't hate Zoe, but the outfit sucked. I think she's cute and adds a little kindness to the show that we sometimes miss out on with Lila and Hawk Moth, (monarch, whatever they name him) but they could've easily made Kagami the bee holder as even though she was outed as her dragon, (ryuko?) people wouldn't know she was the bee holder. or, just a thought, Mari could've used it herself. She has the capability to use many miraculous at once, and she also has been ladybee before. I don't mind zoe, but if she didn't exist I wouldn't be angry.
@zyshock Жыл бұрын
Imo, the outfit is supposed to be bad cause we don't want her to be the cat holder. Zoe, the irrelevant side character with no relevancy, purpose or character compared with a trash costume would make people dislike her. If Luka or Kagami were picked, people would like them alot and we wouldn't want them to go.
@n00ble._.dilooo Жыл бұрын
WHY YOUR TIKKI VOICE IS SO ACCURATE😭
@CrunchyKatKit Жыл бұрын
What the writers and Thomas Astruc could've done - Made Chloe have an actual redemption arc, made Zoe a background character or just a side character, not make Marinette creepy, Adrien calling Chloe out and Chloe starting to change a bit more, Zoe or someone else gets the bee miraculous to only save Chloe from the akumatization, for Zoe to not be a Mary Sue and for her to have actual flaws, Chloe either gets to keep the bee miraculous or for her to get the black cat or ladybug miraculous. Chloe would still have flaws trying to be better at times though. What the writers and Thomas Astruc did - Made Chloe throw her redemption arc away, made Zoe important for no reason, made Marinette creepy, made Chloe and Adrien stop being friends all because she nearly sabotaged a movie, made Zoe a Mary Sue and have little to no flaws, and had Zoe be the new black cat miraculous for no reason at all.
@mladymoo1398 Жыл бұрын
Honestly they’re trying to make us like her, but she’s becoming more and more of a Mary Sue each time they try~
@pretty_peachy2763 Жыл бұрын
I agree! It should have been Luka. Imagine Luka with the cat miraculous. That would be so badass. Also he’s been a holder for a while lol. He knows how things work. Also kittynoir is so ugly lmao
@Scardy-kitty Жыл бұрын
Idk why people get so mad over people’s opinions- like stop! I’m not mad or upset about anyone’s opinions about mlb I love Felix as a character and not a lot of people like him I’m not upset or mad about it!
@insertenombre8522 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you. They are just giving Zoe more spotlight so the fandom can start seeing her as someone important and cool. And what was Plagg thinking when he gave her the Miraculous? He knows NOTHING about her. Tikki chose Alya as Ladybug because she knew her, it would have been better if Plagg had picked Luka. Last but not least; Kitty Noir looks terrible 😭 it's like- she fell into a puddle of green paint. Why can't Zoe have a nice hero outfit? Like you said, she is pretty, but it almost seems like if the producers want her to wear stuff she found in the trash.
@lucydoes_things4198 Жыл бұрын
Kagami would make a FANTASTIC Chat Noir, in my opinion ofc. I also think that she would make a better holder for the Cat Miraculous that Luka, just because Luka knows too much from having the other Miraculous. That being said, they could both probably do it and pull it off way better than Zoe
@yukipotato4767 Жыл бұрын
BRO I WAS ALREADY MAD ABOUT ZOE BEING QUEEN BEE OR WHATEVER HER ALTERNATE NAME IS BUT NOW SHES FREAKING CHAT NOIR TOO TH
@akiramalfoy7440 Жыл бұрын
Zoe has a great design and i love her voice in the german version. But her character is a mary sue... She literally replaces two holders. I get it that there needs to be a new bee miraculous holder but they could've waited for that like a bit... They gave it to her 1-2 episodes after they introduced her. Marinette didn't even know her that good at that point. Luka or Kagami really wouldve been better. And i would've liked to see that more. Zoe seems like a rushed character to show that she is "better" than Chloe. I get it that Chloe can't be the holder anymore but at least wait for a character to come along that at least made sense!
@oreoslush Жыл бұрын
Kittynoir is the name they chose for her? Now I’m starting to think she’s just the Mary Sue daughter of Adrien and Marinette bc in fanfics they’re child inherits the cat miraculous and names themselves kittynoir. 💀
@douglasburck1611 Жыл бұрын
Plagg had to choose someone he knew had no ties to monarch, which narrowed the choice down to 3 choices. Zoe Lee had the least marks against her.
@angallen4922 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with the whole the creators making us like Zoe I don't hate Zoe but she is discount chloe
@mushlii Жыл бұрын
If they didn’t screw over Chloe’s development I would have loved to see her as cat noir. Imagine Chloe changing her ways and being a better person?? But noooo
@COMEBACKSOON568 Жыл бұрын
I’m not really surprise, I figured you would hear Chloe for life😊❤
@ghoztiell9 ай бұрын
I like Zoe, I also like Chloe. I feel like Zoe could’ve had a longer arc of trying to fit in with her sister. In her debut she tried really hard to appeal to Chloe and even was a bully for a few moments. She would’ve had some good character development over the season if she had been given the chance to actually grow a backbone. And become an individual. A character changing up a learned behavior in one episode just doesn’t happen like that. Zoe having to choose over maintaining her relationship with her sister or absolutely dropping Chloe and appeasing marinette who is a girl she JUST met shouldn’t have been as easy a choice to make in just one episode. Decisions like that are hard. I also would’ve liked to have seen Chloe and Zoe develop a bond. And overtime after Zoe converts to being a good person chloe potentially realizes that she’s wrong. Having something like someone in your family leaving you behind because of your behavior can impact you greatly and would have been able to introduce an amazing character development arc for Chloe. But that’s only if she grew to love her sister. As of right now she clearly doesn’t and Zoe should’ve had more development over multiple episodes not just swapping to the new good guy on day one.
@AntexxGamer Жыл бұрын
As a biggest fan of zoe i can confirm its weird that she got picked i thought luka could be the one with cat miraculous since he knows the identity, besides zoe isnt here for such a long time but one thing i hate about her outfit is the eyes, which personally i think would fit the tiger outfit miraculous and i like the hair lipstick is decent outfit is cool ig and the bow is so adorable but all of sudden it was weird to see zoe having the cat miraculous out of nowhere also i think she got it bc plagg in queen banana said that shes better than the past holder of the bee miraculous Queen bee (sorry if anyone got offended but plagg said that) so he decided to choose her ig? But not sure still weird but as a zoe stan im also happy (my opinion idc it you hate)
@N0tmarionlmfao Жыл бұрын
He should've picked juleka tbh
@samsam7920 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion i was laughing so hard and was so outraged when i saw her fit for "kitty noir" its so bad Imaooo. its like they get worse each time!
@pandaemoji689 ай бұрын
"If somebody has a different opinion than you, the world will continue, everything will be fine, you don't need to get mad over it." I'm stealing that and using it.
@sheemafatima2953 Жыл бұрын
Zoe is basically my little brother "useless" and "a plot device"(like oh look how cute he etc, when he's basically useless other than that)
@Universal_Snowy Жыл бұрын
I just realized something. I don’t know if it’s possible. But if Felix has the peacock miraculous still. And the ability to make senti monsters. He could possibly, make fake heros with the same kinda of power. They could basically beat hawkmoth with the peacock miraculous.
@AnCatalyst Жыл бұрын
I would also love to see Luka with the Cat miraculous
@Kati923 Жыл бұрын
Kitty noire kinda looks trash like just look at her she’s doesn’t have a good design she could even get in the top 5 five of trash designs in my opinion and u have been getting very good at Roblox u slayed
@Kati923
Жыл бұрын
If u like her I respect y’all’s opinion
@fluffypanda9274
Жыл бұрын
@@Kati923 I'd go as far to say she's worst than aspik
@COMEBACKSOON568 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if I like Zoe or not because we haven’t seen a document so I don’t know what she’s like🤷♂️
@shrootiscute4750 Жыл бұрын
me remembering a couple years back when I used to pretend that Adrien had a cousin named Arianne and she was kitty noir, her kwami’s name was Clawdia, and the miraculous was a choker, so she would say “Clawdia collar on!”
@DarkShadow-hy6iq
Жыл бұрын
This were the good old days where people made stupid unoriginal characters and stories 🙃😭
@shrootiscute4750
Жыл бұрын
@@DarkShadow-hy6iq honestly tho
@TheEpicgamer3535 Жыл бұрын
I think plagg picked Zoe because he kinda likes her. If you didn't notice in the episode queen banana, aka vesperia's first appearance, he said " ah that vesperia it's like comparing Roquefort aka queen bee to camenbert aka vesperia. Also pollen probably told him In the episode cat walker appears in. And I think that if they picked Juleka aka kitty noir would look way better.
@TheEpicgamer3535
Жыл бұрын
Correction: Forme'donbert not camenbert
@TheEpicgamer3535
Жыл бұрын
But yea, that proves a fact
@reid3524 Жыл бұрын
Zoe is very pretty ngl but her whole character is unrealistic and why did they chose Zoe???? Like that just random but I think KAGAMI should of been the new cat or chole could that will give her more character development but then again I think she should still be ✨queen bee ✨ 🐝 I don't really watch MLB but like why Zoe??????
@COMEBACKSOON568 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying what game it was i’m gonna play right now❤
@hantuus Жыл бұрын
zoe is fine but damn why is her kitty noir outfit like that😭😭
@DarkieAre_Here Жыл бұрын
I have one word on Zoe’s transformation: *no absolutely not*
@Simbala-bq5vy
Жыл бұрын
She doesn't even have an transformation like every new superhero doesn't get an transformation anymore
@DarkieAre_Here
Жыл бұрын
@@Simbala-bq5vy or, I meant to say what their suit looks like. It’s horrible on zoe
@Claire.de.lune. Жыл бұрын
I really admire zoe's character...but yeah everyone has different opinions
@liltmarshall8717 Жыл бұрын
Your tiki voice tho 🤣 SPOT ON
@devonvictoria7386 Жыл бұрын
Loved the video! X
@Tara-yg5ft Жыл бұрын
This is unrelated but the voice you gave Tikki was so accurate to the show!
@SkyBluePearl Жыл бұрын
random fact the writers gave up on chloe. I and everyone in the show belived she could change but the only reason she is "worse" than ever is because the writers seem to have given up on her character and don't wanna give her any character devolpment. I feel like if chloe was self aware she would have wanted to become a better person now she is just living in how she's been written bacically in hell everyone hating her. It just seems like the writers got sick of her and want everyone including the fandom to hate her so she could be "forgotten" and they could focus more on the plot. I'm dissapointed. (this is my theory if you got it wrong i don't hate chloe i love her but i'm dissapointed in the writers giving up and "replacing" her with Zoe and not even give her any character devolpment or chance to become a better person.)
@lumini1i Жыл бұрын
I don't like Kitty noir's design, yet they made her the ONLY ONE to actually get the whole "undercover hero" of all of the other heroes. Ladybug is just marinette with a tight ladybug suit and Chat noir just adrien with a cat suit. Some others did it better, such as Max, yet It's kinda obvious. Yet Nino, Alya a bit, Kagami, Luka, Kim, Chloe (I'M SORRY, BUT THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF HER FIT), Zoe's vesperia fit a bit, and Scarabella? You can just easily guess who is behing the whole suit, yet, I think Zoe was one of the first characters to actually get the whole undercover point. Her fit is just "meh" but, she made her have bangs, green ombre and a more messy hair, that's lit all the opposite of her normal citizen self. Also those green lips make her outfit look weirder, yet they fit the hair, and well her suit reminds me of a spy. U had to think a bit to who the heck was Kitty Noir before the episode, since she looks like a complete different character. But ofc If u look closely to her, she looks kinda like Zoe, but to the people on the show the heroes can't stay in the same place for 1 second, making her run and move all over the place, making citizens wonder who is it, since they can't really have a good look.
@relicsplace9218 Жыл бұрын
1:40 Because they were both suffering and get worse and worse? Its for their own good and also it would probably effect their performances on hero stuff in the future too but you are right about the guardian things its kinda weird
@mlbxcontent Жыл бұрын
Your so SLAYY Mariah! I do agree with you!
@liarinafire1755
Жыл бұрын
But she need to accept that Chloe won’t redeem of be queen bee again
@mlbxcontent
Жыл бұрын
@@liarinafire1755 nope! I think Chloe will be queen bee again. She will always be queen bee. Zoe is just a rip off like no one wants her like not only is she a rip off but she is such a pick me and an attention seeker! Like why does she have to be KittyNoire? She doesn’t even deserve the bee miraculous like wow! Chloe should be every superhero since she is such a baddie💅 (My opinion)
@liarinafire1755
Жыл бұрын
@@mlbxcontent 1: Chloe won’t be queen bee again, she will never be, Zoe is not a rip off and Chloe is the pick me and attention seeker since she only like people bc of their social status and has no friend bc of her toxic personality, Zoe become a cat holder bc Plagg sims on her, Chloe the one who doesn’t deserve a miraculous as she was not picked by marinette of master fu, and Astruc stated that mean people don’t deserve a miraculous.
@mlbxcontent
Жыл бұрын
@@liarinafire1755 Sometimes a mean personality is funny! And Chloe is very slay! Like Zoe just popped out onto Paris with no warning that a pick me was Coming! (My opinion! I don't wanna start a fight
@Iceking__21_ Жыл бұрын
Her costume is so awful, Zoe deserved better
@Shaikhah-vr7gg
9 ай бұрын
She didn't deserve all this
@ilyesbendadi2501
8 ай бұрын
@Shaikhah-vr7gg yes she does
@ilyesbendadi2501
8 ай бұрын
@Shaikhah-vr7gg so get a grip
@Dulce_Doodles Жыл бұрын
I just see Stormy from Winx Club.
@utterlychloe
Жыл бұрын
Yeah they have some winx characters in the game
@kingtrollexandalexandrasquad Жыл бұрын
Nice impression of tikki mariah I Like It 😊
@madzzzcookiecrumb17 Жыл бұрын
Her tikki voice is so good❤
@AliPlaysRoblox Жыл бұрын
I have a viddo suggestion. Can you talk about the MLB movie coming out this year?🥺
@tulipbip Жыл бұрын
Bro I absolutely adore Zoe...BUT WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT UGLY AHH OUTFIT 💀 It did not slay. The green lipstick was so goofy
@DarkShadow-hy6iq
Жыл бұрын
adore zoe? not hating but there's like.... nothing... about her to like...
@Umapobr3coitada_ Жыл бұрын
I think they chose her to she be usefool and to give more deselveloped to her caracter but this design---🤮☠️
@cocoxtigry
Жыл бұрын
Girl who cares she’s bad she’s the best
@i-isa2yearoldi-isa4yearold59 Жыл бұрын
Your zoey hate video made me realize that I hate her for the same reasons
@jkkhwa Жыл бұрын
it seriously looks like the ppl who make the episodes are running out of ideas bc this episode was a mess 😭
@sahirkhan7770 Жыл бұрын
the voice of tikki was soo accurateee
@Iceking__21_ Жыл бұрын
I know you hate Zoe that much, but I want to know if you think she's a better friend with Mari than Alya👀
@brookezhah
Жыл бұрын
I think she is personally literally I can see Zoe not believing lila and staying there with marinette (totally not cus she gay)
@utterlychloe
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I dislike Zoe but she def is prolly one of maris loyalist friends
@liarinafire1755
Жыл бұрын
@@utterlychloe Plagg pick Zoe bc she look like Vesperia and in queen banana, Plagg simp on her and compare her to being a better version of queen bee
@mlbxcontent
Жыл бұрын
@@utterlychloeWhat you said about her outfit is true! When I saw it I was like: Is this even an outfit? Like the shoes!! There killing me they are so freaking ugly! Uglier than her normal ones! At the hair is litrally messed up.
@arcticwolflover263
Жыл бұрын
@@mlbxcontent her outfit is so ugly i agree there was more unique designs but her cat designed suit just feels lazy as hell
@Kati923 Жыл бұрын
1:26 ur so good at voice acting 😤
@utterlychloe
Жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@thanosbutididntkillloki5373 Жыл бұрын
i actually liked Zoe getting more depth and she was the only reasonable person in that episode cause they were all partying over adrienette.
@DarkShadow-hy6iq
Жыл бұрын
no it wasn't Zoe getting depth or development it was the miraclulous team trying to make us like her when no one likes her
@rodreimago7266 Жыл бұрын
A part of me hates the outfit but another part of me thinks the design choice is intentional, maybe she’s supposed to look like an overbarbie girl but honestly the design looks more as if it would come from Mylene. 👓
@pusheenheart312 Жыл бұрын
I swear, i watched that episode with a friend on new years and needless to say we became alcoholics (juice lol) when we realized who plagg was choosing
@jrjigtujlrh.yujeffreyzyirr4285 Жыл бұрын
Zoe is a prefect fit for vesperia and kitty noir.
@ImAppBlockYT
10 ай бұрын
No just no
@jrjigtujlrh.yujeffreyzyirr4285
10 ай бұрын
Yes just yes got that.
@Shaikhah-vr7gg
9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@ilyesbendadi2501
8 ай бұрын
@Shaikhah-vr7gg so you here hating for no reason 😂😂😂😂😂
@ilyesbendadi2501
8 ай бұрын
@@ImAppBlockYTyes
@adrig5854 Жыл бұрын
luka as cat noir ughhh hell yes I would love to see that 😫
@s0dAA_p0p Жыл бұрын
1:18 UR TIKKI IMPRESSON IS REALLY GOOD-
@SiimplyMiraculous Жыл бұрын
Ur tikki voice is really good 😍😍😍
@katie15732 Жыл бұрын
You have a really good Tikki impression
@Simone-Jy6 ай бұрын
Omg her tikki impresion was spot on
@Naviolet Жыл бұрын
Who agrees that zoe is at least better than lie-la ( iris) or whatever her real name is 👇
@liarinafire1755
Жыл бұрын
Lila has three identity being Lila, Cerise and Iris
@alpaka5777 Жыл бұрын
Look I love Zoe, but I do have to agree Kitty noir's design is terrible, one of the ugliest heroes we've had so far
@kiddiewinnierobloxgaming6449
Жыл бұрын
Only the hair and lipstick the costume can be tolerable.
@brodypl5804
Жыл бұрын
And I hate Zoe with a passion but I think her Kitty Noire design is perfect lol Well minus the god damn lipstick it's disgusting 💀
@CLOSED.116 Жыл бұрын
Do a Pretension voice over pls
@Xx_PickyPiggy_Lover_XX Жыл бұрын
I can't even watch any of miraculous on tv at all 😭
@SparkleJamOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын
DO ANOTHER VOICE OVER VID! 😊 or a compilation of edited clips plz
@smelliebellie3 ай бұрын
I love how u share a disclaimer that these videos r ur opinions and the world will not end, it makes me laugh 😆
@giowolfart1967 Жыл бұрын
I think they gave the Aspik treatment to Zoe/Kitty Noir: they made it unappealing so that not a lot of people would get too attached to her.
@adamixtv6742 Жыл бұрын
i think that zoe is the absolute worst character of this show
@notyourmom.2 Жыл бұрын
bro i also hate zoe. Chloe was doing such a good job but they had to add zoe. also tikkis voice was on point💀
@Xavierplayz821
2 ай бұрын
You didn't even watched season 3 bro
@Heartz4Sierra. Жыл бұрын
Where do u find all these episodes? Love you vids
@yourbreadcrumbs Жыл бұрын
Chloe can be considered a deep character, she doesn't know how to fully socialize with people because of her mother upbringing, we can see that by how she constantly tries to mimic her.. the writer missed chance to redeem her. Plus she was a perfect Queen Bee, good intention, but bad at displaying it, which is ok since she was learning how to be a hero. zoe was a bad excuse of the writer to not give a redemption to chloe. i absolutely hate chloe and i dont get how yall like her. i am not mad and i respect you guys' opinion i just wanted to share mine.
@thisisnotacreativename1741 Жыл бұрын
why do I have an odd feeling that Zoe will end up falling in love with Scarabella or whatever her name is...
@tamrynravensbergen8417 Жыл бұрын
umm ur tiki impression is incredible
@B0r3dArt1st Жыл бұрын
In my personal opinion her design is my favorite out of everyones 😭
@goldensnowflake3712
Жыл бұрын
HOW💀
@B0r3dArt1st
Жыл бұрын
@@goldensnowflake3712 Because it’s the only design THAT MADE ME QUESTION THE HOLDER
@sakichair Жыл бұрын
I haven't seen seaon 5 yet because I dunno where to watch it :(( if anyone can please send me the link for somewhere to watch it :'D
Пікірлер: 520
💀😫 idk what's going on but imagine a universe where chloe actually got a proper development and she was the one who inherited the cat miraculous bc she was originally Adrien's best friend 🙃
@samsam7920
Жыл бұрын
frr the writers did her so wrong and i got pissed when adrien stopped being her friend because at the end of the day no matter how "rude" chloe is you can clearly see from s1-5 all she wanted was the best for adrien the whole time
@clovesa
Жыл бұрын
@@samsam7920 yess i agree chloe is one of my favorite characters but they make her have ZERO character development
@lumini1i
Жыл бұрын
@@clovesa AND WHEN THEY MAKE CHLOE HAVE A LITTLE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT IN S2-S3 THEY THROW ALL OF IT IN THE BIN IN S3 FINALE.
@theirlmess
Жыл бұрын
FR SHE DESERVES DEVELOPMENT SO BADDDD- The writers haven’t changed anything about her, basically, she’s always been the rude, annoying, bossy “DADDY COME HERE!!” girl. In (I think) episode 20, Lila says Chloe could change, and yes-!! She could! But the writers don’t bother with her anymore since she isn’t that important/needs to be rude to play her part in mlb. Its so bad, and even worse, for some reason Zoe got the miraculous?? I never liked Zoe from the start, and now she gets the cat miraculous, all because she didn’t ship adrienette?? She already replaced queen-bee before, and now this. Like- Just give Chloe *SOMETHING!!* 😭😭
@dangerbuffrocky
Жыл бұрын
@@theirlmess Chloe has to allow herself to be helped by people. She rejects chances to change meticulous times because "she's rich". Unless she loses everything, she will never learn.
Requirements for being the Cat Miraculous holder: -Be rich -Be blond I can't believe Plagg is racist and classists 😔👊😾
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
Жыл бұрын
I don't think Plagg is racist. Zoe is a bit like Adrien. From what I've seen.
@liarinafire1755
Жыл бұрын
Plagg not racist, Chloe is!
@liarinafire1755
Жыл бұрын
Have you payed attention in Kung food and animaestro
@aIexxisbetter
Жыл бұрын
@Bill ENGLISH yes, yes she is
@aIexxisbetter
Жыл бұрын
@Bill ENGLISH read the comment above my original reply.
1:18 Can we just talk about how GOOD her impression of Tikki is?
@seasonalchanges14
Жыл бұрын
I thought no one was gonna say that! It's almost spot on lol!
@BlueHairedLegoGuy
Жыл бұрын
I know right!?
@Rosa_Here
Жыл бұрын
@@seasonalchanges14 Nice one lol
@seasonalchanges14
Жыл бұрын
@@Rosa_Here Thanks 😋
@Rosa_Here
Жыл бұрын
It really does sound like tikki it's just in a lower voice.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thought Zoe's outfit was ugly. I haven't watched the episode (because I'm so stubborn about watching the episodes in order), but I've seen the trailer of the episode.
@Lebomba101
Жыл бұрын
dw the episode is the last episode you can watch the season in order. Just dont watch revelation or protection and stuff
@lumini1i
Жыл бұрын
Transmission ( ep 10) is actually in the right order. It goes after Elation (ep9), you'll only have to wait for Deflagration which is ep 11
@RoseCadenza
Жыл бұрын
@@lumini1i Oh you're right. I don't know why I didn't notice before. Thank you. I was waiting for the english dub of the episode.
@jrjigtujlrh.yujeffreyzyirr4285
9 ай бұрын
Zoe's outfit was pretty dumhead
IS IT JUST ME OR I REALLY LIKE FELIX'S CHARACTER- hes the only reason why i bother to watch s5 because hes so interesting to see- he carries the whole show as adrienette shippers already got what they wanted-
@kpop._.multistan
Жыл бұрын
Yess I agree
@Wise_Calico
Жыл бұрын
Yes I love Felix like he’s so interesting
@TheFelineBunny
Жыл бұрын
Fr but now he's turning to the good side🥲 I'll miss him
@Wise_Calico
Жыл бұрын
@@TheFelineBunny ikr and I shipped him and Lila and the fact he’s with kagami 🥲
@TheFelineBunny
Жыл бұрын
@@Wise_Calico nahhh I don't think Lila deserves him. I had a feeling that Feligami could happen back in S4 when they had a little eye contact and here we are
For my own sanity, I told myself Plagg chose Zoe cause she's rich and can get him expensive cheese
I feel picking Zoe was just so random. Like literally anyone else would've been better. She's got no proper experience like others such as Luka, Kagami, Nino, Max etc.. she's she's new superhero and tbh I think her just suddenly being fine having the cat miraculous with no problems is very unrealistic. I thought Luka knowing about Adrien and Marionette being the previous holders was foreshadowing him recieving one like the way Alya knew and got the miraculous of the ladybug but apparently not. I honestly don't see how that ties into the story anymore as it seems to be sidelined and forgot about. I feel season 5 is losing its touch with all the drama centred around Adrien and Marionette's relationship as its becoming too repeditive and too predictable. It's becoming boring to watch and it makes me so sad 😭😭😭
@TheGlobe_Trotter
Жыл бұрын
If they actually made Sabrina have a redemption arc starting in Penalteam to forget Chloe and give her more space, we would probably have got her as the cat noir holder.
@RanmaChan
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Soqueline is also an ugly random character! I hate her!😤😤
@TheGlobe_Trotter
Жыл бұрын
@@RanmaChan I don’t hate socqueline, but she popped out of nowhere
@lumini1i
Жыл бұрын
I think Plagg didn't chose Luka bc he prob didn't know abt Luka knowing BOTH of the holders identities. Knowing the snake's miraculous power and logic, only the kwami and holder knows abt what happened before the second chance that fixed everything. Ofc, Luka knows abt the identities bc of a second chance were Ladybug and Chat noir got attacked by Wishmaker, making HIM the only ONE who actually REMEMBERS what happened. As in the second chance that fixed everything neither Ladybug or Chat noior got attacked by the akuma, making not even Plagg or Tikki know about Luka knowing both of the holder's identities.
@mainingkaeyaismylife
Жыл бұрын
@@lumini1i I never said plag knew...ik that only Luka knows? Why u go off on a rant about something i didn't say? Im genuinely confused did I word something wrong?
Imagine this: Similar to how Marinette had no choice but to tell Alya that she’s Ladybug. What if Adrien tells someone like Chloe, Kagami, or someone else that Adrien is acquainted with that he is Chat Noir. This would’ve given that specific character a purpose as to why they could be the new holder of the Cat Miraculous. (Wasted potential is everywhere 😭)
@Tangerine2600
Жыл бұрын
Lmao imagine if he tells luka
@LivesInHerBooks
Жыл бұрын
@@Tangerine2600 "...ok" "You aren't that surprised?" "Nah bro, I sort of already knew like 3 months ago" "...I'm Sorry W H A T." (the reveal is more of a reveal to Adrien then to Luka lol I love that)
@Notsofiathefirst
Жыл бұрын
@@LivesInHerBooksYeah 😂
@theirlmess
Жыл бұрын
Ikr!! I was literally exactly thinking this when Mari told Alya that she was ladybug- Like, why does Mari get a backup ladybug, whilst Adrien has to do stuff on his own and be a depressed little cat-???? 😭💀
@rodreimago7266
Жыл бұрын
Uh yh… Nino???? 👓
i dont know why but i love the idea of marinette and chloe being good friends,i think their dynamic would be interesting but unfortunately thomas Astruc says chloe will never be a good person,its weird that someone could hate a character he made so much, im starting to think that maybe chloe was based off of someone thomas hates in real life
@tillyurboi
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Chloe is based off someone Thomas hates, I think I heard that Thomas based Chloe off his bully from his youth? Idk I heard it somewhere correct me if I'm wrong
@millicentgordon5427
Жыл бұрын
@@tillyurboi I dont really know that just came to my mind
@tillyurboi
Жыл бұрын
@@millicentgordon5427 honestly it would be kinda good to see them as friends tbh. if only thomas made chloe's character more interesting they might be good friends
@millicentgordon5427
Жыл бұрын
@@tillyurboi exactly,I just like the idea if marinette having a friend who is mean,as as I said their dynamic would be interesting to watch
@Sarah_34210
Жыл бұрын
Chloe was based off of his freaking high-school bully
I want the cat miraculous to stay with Adrien!🖤
@stayhann
Жыл бұрын
SAMEEEE
@Mx_Ash
Жыл бұрын
Sameee
@miracaholic
Жыл бұрын
Same!😢😢
@samsam7920
Жыл бұрын
i want is too but it slowly started destroying his mental health throughout the seasons slowly struggling between his love for ladybug and marinette
@strawberry046
Жыл бұрын
Same
I thought the same thing! They want her to look useful and want the viewers to like her. But with that outfit? Lol no way! I thought Plagg gave people best outfits😭 Also, she was so perfect throughout the episode as KittyNoire that we didn't get much interest in her.
I totally agree with you on Zoe’s outfit it’s just ugly. The first time I saw it that was my first thought.💀
@vintage_oddities
Жыл бұрын
its not that bad its just the lips 😭
Tbh, Plagg picking Zoe didn't feel that bad to me Plagg is a very chaotic individual, him gravitating towards the one classmate that was thinking differently to the rest of the class makes sense What I didn't like was how they had to paint the rest of the class in a worse light just for Plaggs reasoning to make sense He could've been inclined towards Zoe for many reasons like her style being unique or her saying something funny that he liked, but they chose to make the entire class terrible friends to Marinette just so Zoe could be "The nice one that actually cares" so Plagg could pick her I don't mind Zoe being picked per se, it could've been pulled off, I do mind the reason she was picked being rlly bad
I don't watch this show anymore but everyday I'm more surprised at the terrible decisions that writers make! I miss season 2 when Chloe was slayful
At first I was like: I don’t mind Zoe being Kitty Noir, we actually get to see who she is And then I started being like: *Wai- why Zoe? Why not Kagami or Luka, they actually know what their doing-*
@starring8847
Жыл бұрын
Love I think
Simple..... thomas astruc 😒😂 But in all seriousness why not nino instead like- that would've been PERFECT. I would've LOVED to see him in that cat suit. 😭
@X2creator12
Жыл бұрын
Yeah he was gonna be chosen but the plagg was like, "oh it will be the same problem, they will be inlove"
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
Жыл бұрын
Because Nino has been a terrible friend to Adrien lately!
@miss_chelles1338
Жыл бұрын
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll . Please.... explain. I'm REALLY getting sick and tried of that excuse/lie. 😑
Kitty Noire looks like a rip-off version of Cat Woman with those purple nails and gloves, ready to rob a bank instead of saving Paris 😂
@zyshock
Жыл бұрын
No she just looks like she fell in paint
Why does she sound so good as Tikki she actually sounds like her
I agree, luka should of got the cat miraculous instead, not being sexist or anything but 1. I think 1 girl and 1 boy would be a better duo, 2. It would be very funny since the new ladybug holder knows who ladybug is, and if luka was the new cat holder then he would know who cat noir is (also ladybug but u get it) and finally 3. I think luka is the second most intresting male character (1st being adrien) so thats my opinion and thoughts
@michaelbrawls1410
Жыл бұрын
and the lipstic is so ugly
Fr Plagg could have chosen literally anyone he has a positive expierience with, or a ex holder he knows the identeties of. That includes: Luka, Kagami, Max and Rose. He couldn't pick Nino because of Alya being his girlfriend. And if we wanted some hella juicy drama... what if Plagg picked... Nathalie.
We want a review of episode 20, Felix being in love with Kagami and Ladynoir let him go with the Peakok miraculous
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
Жыл бұрын
I love Feligami. Honestly a better ship than Adrienette. In my opinion.
@lumityviktuuristanartist4100
Жыл бұрын
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll yeah I agree , it needs more chemistry and it will work
@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll
Жыл бұрын
@@lumityviktuuristanartist4100 Yep. Agreed!^^
@LivesInHerBooks
Жыл бұрын
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll it's better than Adrianette because they actually talk to each other and it dosent take 3 seasons!! (Seriously Adrianette should take notes)
The show has serious problem with pacing. Half the season they just do things randomly that dont even matter, then one episode they just shove everything and solve everything without any build up and expect us to call the writers genius, and thats exactly what half the fandom did. Many people praised the show without taking a second to actually judge and give proper feedback. The writers aware of this, so they just do below bare minimum and they know half the fandom will praise them regardless as long as they got Adrienette or Ladynoir moment
The green hair and lipstick is what’s doing it for me, and I still think it should’ve been luka or kagami or something
The reason for not choosing nino is pretty stupid. Do they expect they, two characters in a relationship with each-other, will somehow fall in love with their new alter-egos??
@halllloooooooooo356
10 ай бұрын
that is... an interesting idea
they did Zoe so dirty with the outfit. I don't hate Zoe, but the outfit sucked. I think she's cute and adds a little kindness to the show that we sometimes miss out on with Lila and Hawk Moth, (monarch, whatever they name him) but they could've easily made Kagami the bee holder as even though she was outed as her dragon, (ryuko?) people wouldn't know she was the bee holder. or, just a thought, Mari could've used it herself. She has the capability to use many miraculous at once, and she also has been ladybee before. I don't mind zoe, but if she didn't exist I wouldn't be angry.
Imo, the outfit is supposed to be bad cause we don't want her to be the cat holder. Zoe, the irrelevant side character with no relevancy, purpose or character compared with a trash costume would make people dislike her. If Luka or Kagami were picked, people would like them alot and we wouldn't want them to go.
WHY YOUR TIKKI VOICE IS SO ACCURATE😭
What the writers and Thomas Astruc could've done - Made Chloe have an actual redemption arc, made Zoe a background character or just a side character, not make Marinette creepy, Adrien calling Chloe out and Chloe starting to change a bit more, Zoe or someone else gets the bee miraculous to only save Chloe from the akumatization, for Zoe to not be a Mary Sue and for her to have actual flaws, Chloe either gets to keep the bee miraculous or for her to get the black cat or ladybug miraculous. Chloe would still have flaws trying to be better at times though. What the writers and Thomas Astruc did - Made Chloe throw her redemption arc away, made Zoe important for no reason, made Marinette creepy, made Chloe and Adrien stop being friends all because she nearly sabotaged a movie, made Zoe a Mary Sue and have little to no flaws, and had Zoe be the new black cat miraculous for no reason at all.
Honestly they’re trying to make us like her, but she’s becoming more and more of a Mary Sue each time they try~
I agree! It should have been Luka. Imagine Luka with the cat miraculous. That would be so badass. Also he’s been a holder for a while lol. He knows how things work. Also kittynoir is so ugly lmao
Idk why people get so mad over people’s opinions- like stop! I’m not mad or upset about anyone’s opinions about mlb I love Felix as a character and not a lot of people like him I’m not upset or mad about it!
I agree with you. They are just giving Zoe more spotlight so the fandom can start seeing her as someone important and cool. And what was Plagg thinking when he gave her the Miraculous? He knows NOTHING about her. Tikki chose Alya as Ladybug because she knew her, it would have been better if Plagg had picked Luka. Last but not least; Kitty Noir looks terrible 😭 it's like- she fell into a puddle of green paint. Why can't Zoe have a nice hero outfit? Like you said, she is pretty, but it almost seems like if the producers want her to wear stuff she found in the trash.
Kagami would make a FANTASTIC Chat Noir, in my opinion ofc. I also think that she would make a better holder for the Cat Miraculous that Luka, just because Luka knows too much from having the other Miraculous. That being said, they could both probably do it and pull it off way better than Zoe
BRO I WAS ALREADY MAD ABOUT ZOE BEING QUEEN BEE OR WHATEVER HER ALTERNATE NAME IS BUT NOW SHES FREAKING CHAT NOIR TOO TH
Zoe has a great design and i love her voice in the german version. But her character is a mary sue... She literally replaces two holders. I get it that there needs to be a new bee miraculous holder but they could've waited for that like a bit... They gave it to her 1-2 episodes after they introduced her. Marinette didn't even know her that good at that point. Luka or Kagami really wouldve been better. And i would've liked to see that more. Zoe seems like a rushed character to show that she is "better" than Chloe. I get it that Chloe can't be the holder anymore but at least wait for a character to come along that at least made sense!
Kittynoir is the name they chose for her? Now I’m starting to think she’s just the Mary Sue daughter of Adrien and Marinette bc in fanfics they’re child inherits the cat miraculous and names themselves kittynoir. 💀
Plagg had to choose someone he knew had no ties to monarch, which narrowed the choice down to 3 choices. Zoe Lee had the least marks against her.
Totally agree with the whole the creators making us like Zoe I don't hate Zoe but she is discount chloe
If they didn’t screw over Chloe’s development I would have loved to see her as cat noir. Imagine Chloe changing her ways and being a better person?? But noooo
I’m not really surprise, I figured you would hear Chloe for life😊❤
I like Zoe, I also like Chloe. I feel like Zoe could’ve had a longer arc of trying to fit in with her sister. In her debut she tried really hard to appeal to Chloe and even was a bully for a few moments. She would’ve had some good character development over the season if she had been given the chance to actually grow a backbone. And become an individual. A character changing up a learned behavior in one episode just doesn’t happen like that. Zoe having to choose over maintaining her relationship with her sister or absolutely dropping Chloe and appeasing marinette who is a girl she JUST met shouldn’t have been as easy a choice to make in just one episode. Decisions like that are hard. I also would’ve liked to have seen Chloe and Zoe develop a bond. And overtime after Zoe converts to being a good person chloe potentially realizes that she’s wrong. Having something like someone in your family leaving you behind because of your behavior can impact you greatly and would have been able to introduce an amazing character development arc for Chloe. But that’s only if she grew to love her sister. As of right now she clearly doesn’t and Zoe should’ve had more development over multiple episodes not just swapping to the new good guy on day one.
As a biggest fan of zoe i can confirm its weird that she got picked i thought luka could be the one with cat miraculous since he knows the identity, besides zoe isnt here for such a long time but one thing i hate about her outfit is the eyes, which personally i think would fit the tiger outfit miraculous and i like the hair lipstick is decent outfit is cool ig and the bow is so adorable but all of sudden it was weird to see zoe having the cat miraculous out of nowhere also i think she got it bc plagg in queen banana said that shes better than the past holder of the bee miraculous Queen bee (sorry if anyone got offended but plagg said that) so he decided to choose her ig? But not sure still weird but as a zoe stan im also happy (my opinion idc it you hate)
He should've picked juleka tbh
In my opinion i was laughing so hard and was so outraged when i saw her fit for "kitty noir" its so bad Imaooo. its like they get worse each time!
"If somebody has a different opinion than you, the world will continue, everything will be fine, you don't need to get mad over it." I'm stealing that and using it.
Zoe is basically my little brother "useless" and "a plot device"(like oh look how cute he etc, when he's basically useless other than that)
I just realized something. I don’t know if it’s possible. But if Felix has the peacock miraculous still. And the ability to make senti monsters. He could possibly, make fake heros with the same kinda of power. They could basically beat hawkmoth with the peacock miraculous.
I would also love to see Luka with the Cat miraculous
Kitty noire kinda looks trash like just look at her she’s doesn’t have a good design she could even get in the top 5 five of trash designs in my opinion and u have been getting very good at Roblox u slayed
@Kati923
Жыл бұрын
If u like her I respect y’all’s opinion
@fluffypanda9274
Жыл бұрын
@@Kati923 I'd go as far to say she's worst than aspik
I don’t know if I like Zoe or not because we haven’t seen a document so I don’t know what she’s like🤷♂️
me remembering a couple years back when I used to pretend that Adrien had a cousin named Arianne and she was kitty noir, her kwami’s name was Clawdia, and the miraculous was a choker, so she would say “Clawdia collar on!”
@DarkShadow-hy6iq
Жыл бұрын
This were the good old days where people made stupid unoriginal characters and stories 🙃😭
@shrootiscute4750
Жыл бұрын
@@DarkShadow-hy6iq honestly tho
I think plagg picked Zoe because he kinda likes her. If you didn't notice in the episode queen banana, aka vesperia's first appearance, he said " ah that vesperia it's like comparing Roquefort aka queen bee to camenbert aka vesperia. Also pollen probably told him In the episode cat walker appears in. And I think that if they picked Juleka aka kitty noir would look way better.
@TheEpicgamer3535
Жыл бұрын
Correction: Forme'donbert not camenbert
@TheEpicgamer3535
Жыл бұрын
But yea, that proves a fact
Zoe is very pretty ngl but her whole character is unrealistic and why did they chose Zoe???? Like that just random but I think KAGAMI should of been the new cat or chole could that will give her more character development but then again I think she should still be ✨queen bee ✨ 🐝 I don't really watch MLB but like why Zoe??????
Thank you for saying what game it was i’m gonna play right now❤
zoe is fine but damn why is her kitty noir outfit like that😭😭
I have one word on Zoe’s transformation: *no absolutely not*
@Simbala-bq5vy
Жыл бұрын
She doesn't even have an transformation like every new superhero doesn't get an transformation anymore
@DarkieAre_Here
Жыл бұрын
@@Simbala-bq5vy or, I meant to say what their suit looks like. It’s horrible on zoe
I really admire zoe's character...but yeah everyone has different opinions
Your tiki voice tho 🤣 SPOT ON
Loved the video! X
This is unrelated but the voice you gave Tikki was so accurate to the show!
random fact the writers gave up on chloe. I and everyone in the show belived she could change but the only reason she is "worse" than ever is because the writers seem to have given up on her character and don't wanna give her any character devolpment. I feel like if chloe was self aware she would have wanted to become a better person now she is just living in how she's been written bacically in hell everyone hating her. It just seems like the writers got sick of her and want everyone including the fandom to hate her so she could be "forgotten" and they could focus more on the plot. I'm dissapointed. (this is my theory if you got it wrong i don't hate chloe i love her but i'm dissapointed in the writers giving up and "replacing" her with Zoe and not even give her any character devolpment or chance to become a better person.)
I don't like Kitty noir's design, yet they made her the ONLY ONE to actually get the whole "undercover hero" of all of the other heroes. Ladybug is just marinette with a tight ladybug suit and Chat noir just adrien with a cat suit. Some others did it better, such as Max, yet It's kinda obvious. Yet Nino, Alya a bit, Kagami, Luka, Kim, Chloe (I'M SORRY, BUT THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF HER FIT), Zoe's vesperia fit a bit, and Scarabella? You can just easily guess who is behing the whole suit, yet, I think Zoe was one of the first characters to actually get the whole undercover point. Her fit is just "meh" but, she made her have bangs, green ombre and a more messy hair, that's lit all the opposite of her normal citizen self. Also those green lips make her outfit look weirder, yet they fit the hair, and well her suit reminds me of a spy. U had to think a bit to who the heck was Kitty Noir before the episode, since she looks like a complete different character. But ofc If u look closely to her, she looks kinda like Zoe, but to the people on the show the heroes can't stay in the same place for 1 second, making her run and move all over the place, making citizens wonder who is it, since they can't really have a good look.
1:40 Because they were both suffering and get worse and worse? Its for their own good and also it would probably effect their performances on hero stuff in the future too but you are right about the guardian things its kinda weird
Your so SLAYY Mariah! I do agree with you!
@liarinafire1755
Жыл бұрын
But she need to accept that Chloe won’t redeem of be queen bee again
@mlbxcontent
Жыл бұрын
@@liarinafire1755 nope! I think Chloe will be queen bee again. She will always be queen bee. Zoe is just a rip off like no one wants her like not only is she a rip off but she is such a pick me and an attention seeker! Like why does she have to be KittyNoire? She doesn’t even deserve the bee miraculous like wow! Chloe should be every superhero since she is such a baddie💅 (My opinion)
@liarinafire1755
Жыл бұрын
@@mlbxcontent 1: Chloe won’t be queen bee again, she will never be, Zoe is not a rip off and Chloe is the pick me and attention seeker since she only like people bc of their social status and has no friend bc of her toxic personality, Zoe become a cat holder bc Plagg sims on her, Chloe the one who doesn’t deserve a miraculous as she was not picked by marinette of master fu, and Astruc stated that mean people don’t deserve a miraculous.
@mlbxcontent
Жыл бұрын
@@liarinafire1755 Sometimes a mean personality is funny! And Chloe is very slay! Like Zoe just popped out onto Paris with no warning that a pick me was Coming! (My opinion! I don't wanna start a fight
Her costume is so awful, Zoe deserved better
@Shaikhah-vr7gg
9 ай бұрын
She didn't deserve all this
@ilyesbendadi2501
8 ай бұрын
@Shaikhah-vr7gg yes she does
@ilyesbendadi2501
8 ай бұрын
@Shaikhah-vr7gg so get a grip
I just see Stormy from Winx Club.
@utterlychloe
Жыл бұрын
Yeah they have some winx characters in the game
Nice impression of tikki mariah I Like It 😊
Her tikki voice is so good❤
I have a viddo suggestion. Can you talk about the MLB movie coming out this year?🥺
Bro I absolutely adore Zoe...BUT WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT UGLY AHH OUTFIT 💀 It did not slay. The green lipstick was so goofy
@DarkShadow-hy6iq
Жыл бұрын
adore zoe? not hating but there's like.... nothing... about her to like...
I think they chose her to she be usefool and to give more deselveloped to her caracter but this design---🤮☠️
@cocoxtigry
Жыл бұрын
Girl who cares she’s bad she’s the best
Your zoey hate video made me realize that I hate her for the same reasons
it seriously looks like the ppl who make the episodes are running out of ideas bc this episode was a mess 😭
the voice of tikki was soo accurateee
I know you hate Zoe that much, but I want to know if you think she's a better friend with Mari than Alya👀
@brookezhah
Жыл бұрын
I think she is personally literally I can see Zoe not believing lila and staying there with marinette (totally not cus she gay)
@utterlychloe
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I dislike Zoe but she def is prolly one of maris loyalist friends
@liarinafire1755
Жыл бұрын
@@utterlychloe Plagg pick Zoe bc she look like Vesperia and in queen banana, Plagg simp on her and compare her to being a better version of queen bee
@mlbxcontent
Жыл бұрын
@@utterlychloeWhat you said about her outfit is true! When I saw it I was like: Is this even an outfit? Like the shoes!! There killing me they are so freaking ugly! Uglier than her normal ones! At the hair is litrally messed up.
@arcticwolflover263
Жыл бұрын
@@mlbxcontent her outfit is so ugly i agree there was more unique designs but her cat designed suit just feels lazy as hell
1:26 ur so good at voice acting 😤
@utterlychloe
Жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
i actually liked Zoe getting more depth and she was the only reasonable person in that episode cause they were all partying over adrienette.
@DarkShadow-hy6iq
Жыл бұрын
no it wasn't Zoe getting depth or development it was the miraclulous team trying to make us like her when no one likes her
A part of me hates the outfit but another part of me thinks the design choice is intentional, maybe she’s supposed to look like an overbarbie girl but honestly the design looks more as if it would come from Mylene. 👓
I swear, i watched that episode with a friend on new years and needless to say we became alcoholics (juice lol) when we realized who plagg was choosing
Zoe is a prefect fit for vesperia and kitty noir.
@ImAppBlockYT
10 ай бұрын
No just no
@jrjigtujlrh.yujeffreyzyirr4285
10 ай бұрын
Yes just yes got that.
@Shaikhah-vr7gg
9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@ilyesbendadi2501
8 ай бұрын
@Shaikhah-vr7gg so you here hating for no reason 😂😂😂😂😂
@ilyesbendadi2501
8 ай бұрын
@@ImAppBlockYTyes
luka as cat noir ughhh hell yes I would love to see that 😫
1:18 UR TIKKI IMPRESSON IS REALLY GOOD-
Ur tikki voice is really good 😍😍😍
You have a really good Tikki impression
Omg her tikki impresion was spot on
Who agrees that zoe is at least better than lie-la ( iris) or whatever her real name is 👇
@liarinafire1755
Жыл бұрын
Lila has three identity being Lila, Cerise and Iris
Look I love Zoe, but I do have to agree Kitty noir's design is terrible, one of the ugliest heroes we've had so far
@kiddiewinnierobloxgaming6449
Жыл бұрын
Only the hair and lipstick the costume can be tolerable.
@brodypl5804
Жыл бұрын
And I hate Zoe with a passion but I think her Kitty Noire design is perfect lol Well minus the god damn lipstick it's disgusting 💀
Do a Pretension voice over pls
I can't even watch any of miraculous on tv at all 😭
DO ANOTHER VOICE OVER VID! 😊 or a compilation of edited clips plz
I love how u share a disclaimer that these videos r ur opinions and the world will not end, it makes me laugh 😆
I think they gave the Aspik treatment to Zoe/Kitty Noir: they made it unappealing so that not a lot of people would get too attached to her.
i think that zoe is the absolute worst character of this show
bro i also hate zoe. Chloe was doing such a good job but they had to add zoe. also tikkis voice was on point💀
@Xavierplayz821
2 ай бұрын
You didn't even watched season 3 bro
Where do u find all these episodes? Love you vids
Chloe can be considered a deep character, she doesn't know how to fully socialize with people because of her mother upbringing, we can see that by how she constantly tries to mimic her.. the writer missed chance to redeem her. Plus she was a perfect Queen Bee, good intention, but bad at displaying it, which is ok since she was learning how to be a hero. zoe was a bad excuse of the writer to not give a redemption to chloe. i absolutely hate chloe and i dont get how yall like her. i am not mad and i respect you guys' opinion i just wanted to share mine.
why do I have an odd feeling that Zoe will end up falling in love with Scarabella or whatever her name is...
umm ur tiki impression is incredible
In my personal opinion her design is my favorite out of everyones 😭
@goldensnowflake3712
Жыл бұрын
HOW💀
@B0r3dArt1st
Жыл бұрын
@@goldensnowflake3712 Because it’s the only design THAT MADE ME QUESTION THE HOLDER
I haven't seen seaon 5 yet because I dunno where to watch it :(( if anyone can please send me the link for somewhere to watch it :'D