I would love to know how many sheep in the ethical operations get to live to the end of their natural lifespans, and the extent to which they receive veterinary care. I am very skeptical about the raising of any animal for a profit motive but am curious about what your experience will show.

@JC-yy8iv

Жыл бұрын

I’m skeptical of those operations too. One of my rabbits was a rescue from a “humane” rabbit meat farm. We had to amputate a back leg (very big deal for a rabbit) because on the farm it had been shattered and completely ignored (and also reformed in a way that suggests very tight quarters). You really have to investigate any individual operation, glad we have people like MGC to help us with that

Wool is like anything else - there’s great wool that’s high quality and ethically sourced, and there’s bad quality wool which may or may not have been ethically sourced. Where I’m living now, traditional sheep farmers are having issues finding a market for all their wool these days because so much clothing is made from synthetics. It’s interesting since as a hand knitter, it can be tough to get ahold of wool from time to time. There’s a lot of history and culture wrapped up in wool, knitting, weaving, etc., and I would love to see these preserved! So that’s something I try to support.

@MyGreenCloset

2 жыл бұрын

I've heard many cases of it being cheaper for farmers to burn their wool than try and sell it. Such a shame, especially since even if it might be rough wool and not suitable for clothing it could still be used for stuffing, insulation, etc.

Love this, I have allot of nostalgia growing up in a small village in England with sheep in fields everywhere. Now living in Canada I miss seeing them. As a strict vegan for many years I haven’t worn wool or leather. Having said that 99% of the clothes I buy are secondhand, I try as much as possible not to by fabrics with plastic in them so I have seen nicer styles and have bought a couple of items that are wool and a pair leather boots. This is for several reasons. They don’t contain plastic for the most part as do many ‘ vegan’ leather brands to buy new, they are longer lasting keeping them out of landfill from buying secondhand. They wear better being natural, especially in winter when it’s cold in snow with wet feet. I still don’t think I would ever buy new wool or leather.

Bonjour! :) (I'm French). In the 90s, in Bretagne, my mum and I bought several great quality woollen jackets and sweaters from local traditional Breton brand-names. Mostly in navy blue or cherry red but not only. Timeless style. After so many years of use, they still look and feel in excellent condition, and always in fashion! We've never had to replace them and still love and wear them. I cannot believe the poor quality of nowadays fast-fashion knitwear in comparison, it bobbles so fast even.... when there's wool involved. The Breton brands still exist, their knitwear remains excellent quality but it's expensive - a good investment if you can afford it. And it is really worth buying second hand vintage wool knitwear and scarves whenever there is a chance! Thank you for your interesting video :) Looking forward to part 2!

thank you for your effort erin! I find this to be such an important & complex topic💜

I'm a fiber artist creating woven art piece and spinning art yarns. I'm also vegan and therefor working solely with vegan fibers. I'm super interested in this topic and will be watching the serie with lots of excitement! I already know some of my fiber artist friends manage to source their wool from tiny local farms where they know the animals are truly cared for so I know this is possible. But regenerative agriculture sounds highly interested and I'll be waiting for the next videos! Thanks for your work ❤️

@justin15157

Жыл бұрын

Vegan is bad for the environment lol

@karolinakuc4783

8 ай бұрын

Wool can be absolutely sustainable. Sheep make perfect ski slopes by simply grazing. You can see it yourself by visiting Poland. It is way better than mowers.

Can't wait to see more! You are always so thoughtful and open to expanding your perspective. When it comes to textiles, there are so many pros and cons that its always more complicated than it appears at first glance. I hope that people watching can understand that you and me and everyone else are just humans out here in a flawed system trying to make the best decisions out of what is available.

I am so excited for this series!

Great topic! Can’t wait to see the visit to the regenerative sheep farm! Very interesting and encouraging 💚💚💚

Really looking forward to your report on this!

Cool! I'm trying to more conscious and sustainable in my purchases, so I'm stoked for this series!

@MyGreenCloset

2 жыл бұрын

Love to hear it!

My grandma used to shear the sheep and make my dad’s clothes from it. Of course, they knew 100% it was ethical because it was from their sheep that they took care of. I myself and am actually allergic to wool so I don’t wear clothes with it, but I know it’s a good option for many reasons.

Wool is also great for bedding. I have a wool underlay, wool blanket and wool quilt on my bed. They are awesome because they keep you warm but you don’t overheat either. My underlay has a cotton reverse but I love the feel of sleeping on the wool side even during hot summer nights. I live in Australia (where our poorly insulated houses have been described as glorified tents compared to European homes, for example, which are really built to withstand the cold). All my wool products are made in Australia from Australian merino wool. They are more expensive than the made in China versions but definitely better quality. Although I can’t say if the sheep are well treated; I’ll be interested to learn more about that.

I'm so hyped!!!!!!

I’m eagerly waiting for the next video. I thought of buying wool to add to my capsule wardrobe that will suit the Canadian weather. Wool clothing is pricey so I wouldn’t want to spend money in unsustainable brand yet at the same time I need something that can withstand the Alberta winter/fall/spring. And definitely yes for a wool in summer to maximize the usage. Thank you for making informative videos like this which help us making informed decision. 😊

I came to see what your hair looked like after watching your buzz cut. I had this exact cut when I buzzed mine. I love it on you. I love my buzz cut even more. It's amazing. How long did you keep it before growing it out?

Really interesting series. From my experience, warm weather and wool can work. Since moving to hot and extremely dry Nevada I've switched to often wearing wool especially when hiking. I can wear wool clothes multiple times before washing, because they don't hold on to sweat or odor, just like you mentioned. However, I wish I could find more tank tops. Summer is so hot here there's no perfect option, but I like wool because at least the sweat will dry off and not smell, haha. I've purchased from Icebreaker and Branwyn so I'm curious to learn more about those brands or about ones you'd recommend instead.

I have always thought that there must be a way to produce wool ethically and reasonably stustainably. And I have always been convinced that no man-made fibre can rival the properties of wool, so I’m looking forward to the series!

@karolinakuc4783

8 ай бұрын

Cause it is true. With proper care wool can be long lasting. Proper care means you can only ventilate it or handwash it.

This series will be so interesting, I definitely want to know how sheep can be kept animal friendly and enviromentally sustainable. We have many shepherds around here in the north of Germany, I would like to be able to spot the differences in their work routines. I would also definitely love an in depth look at how to care for wool garments. I love the material, its feel and properties. What a great idea for a series! Thank you!

@Moelili

2 жыл бұрын

Kennst du Nordwolle? Ich glaube besser geht nicht 😬

@Anncrohr

2 жыл бұрын

Nordwolle is indeed a great recommendation! They support old and hardy breeds, so there are no issues around flies/mulesing in the first place and geh sheep are perfect to be used for dike protection, mowing of nature protection areas or around fruit trees (on „Streuobstwiesen“). In addition, they produce fair and sustainably in a rural area with local employees.

I wonder if there isn't a bit of excess hype about regenerative agriculture - I'm weary of any solution that can be used as a "oh hey we can save the planet without deeply changing our lifestyles" argument. When I first heard of it, it seemed amazing, but then I came across some very valid critiques, about how it would only work in very small scales, about how (even with the bast intentions) it can sequester huge amounts of carbon for a few years but then the soil reaches a certain saturation point where it can't absorb any more CO2, and then the animals start emitting more than they sequester again, about how as soon as there's a profit incentive, then certain practices come into play that are unsustainable. It seems too good to be true, and I'm also curious about the financing and conflicts of interest for those studies, and I wonder why often the people who sponsor regenerative ag also often seem to be selling steaks. Of course I don't think it's black or white, and I'm sure there are some very good people and initiatives! But I'd really love for the discussion to be more nuanced. Anyways, looking forwards to the series regardless (I do really love wool as a material, and hope to keep my second hand merino baselayers and my dad's old sweaters for many years to come).

@MyGreenCloset

2 жыл бұрын

Great points! We have to be careful of what the word regenerative means and it being used as another sustainable buzzword. I think one of the big issues is that there is not one approach that can be applied everywhere - each climate, environment, farm etc. needs an individual plan and will have an individual outcome, which studies can't capture. Also I think with any sustainable initiatives like this, they can only be successful when done in tandem with other things. For example waste and mass-consumption still needs to massively decrease to help make things like regenerative agriculture an actually viable solution.

Wool like hair and nails becomes weak and damaged if the animal experiences stress and I’ll health. Therefore, it is in the shepherd’s best interest to care for their flock.

@MyGreenCloset

2 жыл бұрын

Only if quality is important though, many producers and brands unfortunately care more about quantity than quality.

@karolinakuc4783

8 ай бұрын

​@@MyGreenClosetIndeed. In their best interest it is for you to buy more. Nothing is healthy about poliester. Plastic destroys hormonal balance but they add a lot of it to their clothes. It makes sauna for bacteria and makes clothes smelly. Perfect you need to buy more to get fresh. And environment? Companies see only profits in short term

Great video. Unfortunately Australia still has many cruel treatments of sheep. Also very few mills left. Well done NZ.

Thank you so much for this video. From an environmental perspective, wool is a great option for all the reasons you listed. I would love to invest high-quality, long lasting, ethically farmed wool, so I am stoked to watch these videos!! As an ethical vegan (for animals and the environment), I have not felt comfortable buying wool, either. I would LOVE to know more about companies that are ethical with their sheep and regenerative. Thank you!

I’m intrigued to see what you have to say about wool as I have a love hate relationship with it and I always appreciate your knowledge and balanced perspective. As someone who struggles to regulate their body temperature wool is a fantastic fibre, but I’m definitely worried about the cruelty involved. I saw a comment recently from someone who had worked on a sheep farm talking about how traumatised they were by the treatment of the sheep. It certainly got me thinking more about alternatives but I have no idea where to look, I don’t think that other fibres would work as well and most synthetic jumpers are acrylic which has its own issues.

@karolinakuc4783

8 ай бұрын

Indeed. Acrylic just like other synthetics attracts odour

Thank you for this infotainment and hope for our planet. You have beautiful eyes.

Wool is awesome. The only reason I ever thought differently is because many knit wools are itchy. But there’s so many more ways to process wool. Historically weaving is most common and our ancestors made their clothing this way for thousands of years, up until the last century! You oughta look up ‘fulling’, it’s related to felting. Makes a beautiful soft, shiny cloth, now called broadcloth I think. And yes, clearly one should have a healthy amount of sheep and treat them well. Like our forebears did. Will be great to see the farm!

I've been back and forth on wool for the many reasons you've gone back and forth. I purchased my first wool garment this past winter to keep warm during cold New England nights. I can't guarantee the material was sourced 100% ethically and sustainably, but the item will last many many years, it's the best quality winter wear item I own.

I look forward to watching this series. I have a question for the farmers: as animals age does their wool degrade (you know how old horses, cats and dogs stop having such a soft coat), and do they get culled because of this? Another question, maybe a silly one, but I take it they don't practice mulsing? Because that is awful. And lastly, why is wool so damn itchy for some people how can we avoid that? I still don't trust wool from an animal welfare perspective but maybe I'll learn something and this will make reassess.

@littlereddragon

2 жыл бұрын

Not a farmer but allergic to wool and I've looked this up! Wool is itchy because of two reasons - the main one being how thick the wool fibres are (though merino wool tends to be finer). E.g. Cashmere doesn't tend to itch as much as wool because the fibres are naturally finer. The other is that some people have a lanolin allergy - this is a wool alcohol that's naturally found in sheep, I think to keep them waterproof but can irritate some people's skin.

@mandarinz69

2 жыл бұрын

@@littlereddragon that's interesting, thank you. I realised after posting I should have just googled it but I couldn't be bothered going back to edit lol

@littlepinkbullets

2 жыл бұрын

For the itchy - a lot of ppl have a lanolin allergy and don’t actually know about it (also in some products such as carmex)

@mandarinz69

2 жыл бұрын

@@littlepinkbullets yes I wonder if I do, a wool sweater is just awful to wear

I knew it. Since doing more of my own research and also learning more about it in school by a great teacher who spells out the pro's and con's of every fiber amazingly, I've considered wool a good fiber; provided it has some animal welfare certifications of course. I've been buying lots of wool and cashmere secondhand and cannot go back to synthetic knits and cotton knits don't keep me warm enough. But I was always still afraid my research was biased, and that it was some sort of rebelling against the vegan narrative in the sustainable fashion community. To hear someone like you - who is plant based and has been a noper of newly bought wool for a long time - agree that it isn't bad, and can even be good, is simply nice to hear.

It confuses my father greatly that I, vegetarian since the 90s, vegan diet since cheese proved a health trigger and may as well, use wool. A lot bought secondhand, and cared for to last, and yardage of best available per my research that are sewn with the best possible practices into pieces filling specific needs and let me use less heating in winter (like my linen helps avoid AC). No fads (outside decorations I can snip off), seamed so I can adjust sizing, scraps put to other uses, careful care and storage. Don’t follow the Royal family but where they pointed out that this piece or that had been photographed over like 30 years because it was well made, could be refit by a tailor by design, and was a ubiquitous business-dress (or whatever the day called for) style… I do that with my linen and cotton as well (and my peace silk) but double since I know I can’t say a creature didn’t suffer for me to have it. It’s just better than the plastic that would be the next best for the items for cold wet use

Do you have a recommendation to what to do with a wool garment you “destroyed” by washing to hot? 😥 could be a sweater or socks!

@_daniela_s

2 жыл бұрын

My first thought for a garment thats now on the small side: mittens! Maybe with a fabric lining etc. but they don't need much fabric, so that might work 🤔

@MyGreenCloset

2 жыл бұрын

It depends how badly it shrunk/felted. Sometimes you can add some conditioner and gently stretch it if the shrinkage is minor. Otherwise upcycling it is likely the best way.

Oh this will be interesting. I like crafting, especially sewing and crocheting and it made me appreciate my clothing a lot more. And I do think it can be more sustainable than fast fashion. Plus knowing how to sew can help with mending or reworking second hand clothing. But yes Ive always wondered about ethical fabric and wool shopping. I live in an area with a lot of antique stores that sometimes carry old bedsheets, fabrics, lace and wool as well (ive gotten some very gorgeous laces but now i dont wanna waste them by sewing .... ahhh) so I try and go there or see if my mother or grandmother (both sew, my grandma used to be a seamstress and has a big stash, my mom likes knitting) but sometimes it happens that I still need to buy new fabrics for specific projects. So thank you ^^

wooo!

I'm team second hand wool only but am curious about your series. One question (perhaps very ignorant) I have, additional to what I see in other comments steady, is: are sheep inseminated to create the next generation? Or can they mate naturally?

@MyGreenCloset

2 жыл бұрын

This is anecdotal, but on all the fibre farms I've been to they mate naturally. Unlike with meat, wool farms don't need to greatly increase their flock every year so it seems like they just put some animals together while in heat and see what happens.

Something I think a lot of people forget is that animals like sheep can be used to restore land that cannot be otherwise used to grow plants which we can utilize. Should these animals help restore these locations and be treated fairly and humanely, I absolutely do not see any reason why the usage of their wool (or for other animals, like cows and their milk) is unethical or unsustainable. I know people will claim that cow's milk is meant for calves, but many have been bred to overproduce and there is no way to humanely stop milking cold turkey. I think we have to realize where we are and start slowly progressing toward more sustainable and ethical ways, but we have to realize that it won't happen overnight. We cannot be critical of progress because it isn't perfection.

@karolinakuc4783

8 ай бұрын

Indeed. In Poland sheep make perfect ski slopes. Why in countries that have Alps they don't do that is beyond me. I guess they are just too lazy.

@karolinakuc4783

8 ай бұрын

Indeed. In Poland it is this way. I don't know why in Alps you can only see mowers

I love Icelandic sweaters. I’m hoping they are sustainably farmed? The keep me dry even in rain and I didn’t need a winter coat last winter! I live in connecticut so it gets cold! I wore a shirt underneath and felt comfortable!

@MyGreenCloset

2 жыл бұрын

I think if it's actually from Iceland there is probably a decent chance. This is purely anecdotal but from traveling in Iceland, the wool seemed to come from small scale farms following very traditional practices. But of course if you can purchase it directly from a farm, or a maker with good traceability and who can answer questions that's always best. :)

It is funny how the wool is sooo pricey and sometimes really hard to get (and I live in Europe). It is rare for me to find 100% wool yarn for my projects, most of it is arylic or a mix.

I wish they would come up with an ethical and ecological alternative to wool already. I can tolerate usage of second hand wool clothing but can’t get behind even the most ecological wool production. It’s a no for me.

@MyGreenCloset

2 жыл бұрын

Follow your values :)

@karolinakuc4783

8 ай бұрын

Then you gotta realize that all these pesticides and synthetic fibers are plastic that are toxic to animals and people

Shout out for Izzy Lane ! 💚

I find wool to be itchy. I'd love some info on the sustainability of wool blend fabrics.

@karolinakuc4783

8 ай бұрын

Some estimates say that wool production in case of big corporations is more harmful than plastic even. But with proper care wool is the most lasting and hygenic fabric. It is way more odour resistant than cotton and synthetics especially synthetics. Also if sheep live stressfull lives fibers will not be strong. So search for ZQ certificate

As someone who has worked on a “ethical” small scale wool farm in WA state, I can tell you that there is no wool industry without the meat industry. Not all lambs are raised to adulthood, they are slaughtered for meat. I personally watched babies being separated from their mothers and the fear and panic in their faces. Wool industry involves selective breeding, which means some animals will be killed as babies because they are not what the breeder is looking for. Furthermore sheep’s wool quality goes down after 6 years and they are killed for meat. They do not get to live to old age, it would not be profitable for the farmer.

I don't like that this is split up into multiple parts because now you have praised wool and regenerative farming so much without giving any actual information about it that it almost feels like an advertisement to me. Also something being regenerative is just one important criterium. I think whenever animals are involved in a production chain ethics should be the most important criterium which I personally would always question if I do not know the farmers personally. That being said: I am looking forward to seeing the next video and hope it is more informative and critical.

@MyGreenCloset

2 жыл бұрын

I split this up into multiple parts because otherwise it would be a very long video that people on youtube are unlikely to watch and I want to cover different aspects. I also felt it was important to share my perspective shift on wool because as mentioned I never used to buy wool new and was critical of wool before so I didn't want to jump right into a series on wool without address why my opinion has changed.

@MyGreenCloset

2 жыл бұрын

You can also check out this post I have on my blog which goes more into this topic and specifics on different types of wool: mygreencloset.com/wool-ethical-alpaca-cashmere-merino/

Another lesser known issue: many ewes get injected with hormones to be bred all at the same time and lamb all at the same time. These hormones come from pregnant mares that suffer horribly in „blood farms“, mostly in Iceland and Argentina.

@lauren8627

2 жыл бұрын

That is revolting. I'll definitely research that. You don't know what you don't know I guess. 🤯

@Anncrohr

2 жыл бұрын

@@lauren8627 it really is revolting. Same is true for most pigs, by the way.

@MyGreenCloset

2 жыл бұрын

Is this for fibre farming or meat? It sounds like something that would be used in the meat industry, because my understanding is with fibre farming there typically isn't a need to greatly increase your herd size

@Anncrohr

2 жыл бұрын

@@MyGreenCloset Lambs produce the finest and highest quality fiber in their first year, so I believe there are many lambs born into the fiber industry (even if they might be slaughtered after only a short life). And ewes in the meat industry also have to get shorn themselves (even if their lambs are killed for meat), so there’s always wool, even if this lower quality wool sometimes gets disposed of (how wasteful). So either way, the industries often go hand in hand to at least some degree. And knowing when to expect all lambs collectively is a huge benefit for both industries.

@MyGreenCloset

2 жыл бұрын

The industries can definitely go hand in hand such as wool being a by-product of the meat industry. However in my research I've found on most farms that only farm fibre, the sheep seem to live long lives - this is also something I'm hoping to learn more about on my visit to the farm. And it's always a good question to ask when researching wool products and their origins! Also with ensuring when to expect lambs my understanding is that they just let them mate during a short window of time only (sheep have fairly quick ovulation cycles) so the lambs will all be born close together in spring.

You do realize that whether the sheep are raised on a farm or raised in the wild they still produce methane gas so unless you're suggesting mass extinction, Same goes for your point about grazing do these animals not have a right to exist

@karolinakuc4783

8 ай бұрын

In wild sheep feces help grass grow more aboundant. And they consume a lot of CO2. They consume more greenhouse gases than sheep can produce. Nature is more inteligent than you give it credit for

In the end wool isn’t for humans to use. I used to excuse animal products if it was “ethically sourced” but then I slowly realised animals aren’t materials. I would never wear dog fur if it was ‘ethically sourced’. With scandals like cat fur being sold without customers’ knowledge, it shows how easy it is for exploitation to occur. Rather just use things we know for sure are not animal derived, and stop perpetuating the idea animals are acceptable commodities.

@MyGreenCloset

Жыл бұрын

I don't think fur and wool should be lumped together.

@Andrea-id3pn

Жыл бұрын

@@MyGreenCloset of course fur requires animals to die, but my point is if dog fur was only sheared off (they weren’t killed), would it be okay? Part of being an ethical consumer is not seeing animals as products. It doesn’t matter how far people go to ensure an animal isn’t harmed - ultimately it is THEIR wool and not ours, and they shouldn’t be used to serve humans. If your view changes based on the victim, that’s speciesism. An exception to a practice that can so easily cause exploitation is a slippery slope. I like your channel, but as someone who previously had this view and has since changed, I felt I need to point this out.

@MyGreenCloset

Жыл бұрын

We disagree. I see the use of wool differently, sheep need to be shorn for their comfort and they have no use for their wool in the same way we have no use for our cut hair. And yes, if there was a way to make dog yarn from cut fur from the groomers when dogs get their summer cuts I would also be fine with wearing dog yarn sweaters.

@Andrea-id3pn

Жыл бұрын

@@MyGreenCloset well the fact you agree with dog sweaters says enough for me. I can’t believe people still think animals should be turned into clothing when it’s 2022. The ethics alone is bad enough, but what about environmental? All the food and land wasted to raise and keep these animals alive just because people can’t be bothered finding alternatives to wool? It’s completely unsustainable and backward-thinking. I highly suggest you watch Earthling Ed’s video “animals in fashion”. It goes through every aspect about why using animals isn’t just unethical, but unsustainable in any form.

I believe regenerative farming has been widely debunked? I imagine even in the best farms the animals still end up in a slaughter house? I just don't think it's something I would ever want to support.

@lauren8627

2 жыл бұрын

If i was a sheep i'd rather be killed quickly than die a natural painful death for an extended period of time in the wild.

@AJW2004

2 жыл бұрын

@@lauren8627 I mean none of the sheep involved would be 'wild' breeds of sheep and think it's a stretch of the imagination to consider a slaughterhouse a kindness

@Andrea-id3pn

Жыл бұрын

@@lauren8627 there’s a third option: live freely and not be used as a commodity or easily be at risk of exploitation

Ugh, this is a real face palm moment. She didn't account for the major animal cruelty aspect of wool that is not possible for ANY sheep farmers to escape. The main reason that wool is so unethical is because sheep have been bred over a long period of time to grow way more wool than they naturally would in the wild. This leads to all kinds of health problems with the sheep. It also requires the sheep have to be sheared or they will become very sick and could die. The consensus among animal rights groups at this point is that the current sheep that are alive should be sheared for their own health, but the wool should not be used to make products because it creates a market for wool and a drive to breed new sheep for profit. Secondly, we should not breed any more sheep that have been hybridized to over-produce wool. This is seen most obviously with the type of sheep that are bred for Merino wool. In order to over produce wool the sheep have been bred to have huge skin folds which create a larger area for will to grow. Many of these sheep have to have folds cut out of their skin due to fly strike and they don't use any anesthetic. But while Merino sheep are the most obvious example of this breeding practice, it is actually the case with all sheep.

@MyGreenCloset

2 жыл бұрын

We can't reverse the damage that has already been done with over-bred sheep and I've talked about this issue in other videos. The way I see it, nothing is going to stop or change overnight and while it's not a perfect solution, supporting animal welfare-focused practices, fibre animals integrated into regenerative systems, and an emphasis on decreasing production (quality over quantity) seem like a much better path.

@factitiously

2 жыл бұрын

@@MyGreenCloset I think maybe you were not getting what I was saying. Animal rights activists are saying that we should no longer be breeding these animals. We shouldn't buy their wool. We shouldn't breed them. The reason is that for so many generations they have been hybridized to basically grow way more wool than their bodies can support. Sheep in the wild don't have big wooly coats like domesticated sheep do. Their coats look more like goat hair. But because we have bred them for centuries to grow more and more hair, they now grow so much hair that it's extremely unhealthy for them. So we are continuing to breed these animals that cannot naturally be healthy on their own. Animal rights activists believe that this is cruel and that we should cease to breed sheep. It's like how the meat industry has bred chickens over decades to be so fat that literally their legs cannot support the weight of their bodies and they end up with broken legs and just sitting on the ground for their entire lives. Animal rights activists don't believe that we should continue to breed these types of chickens or sheep because it's cruel. Humans have spent hundreds of years breeding these animals in a way that is useful for humans to make money, but it is really unhealthy for the animal. Animal rights activists don't think that we should continue these practices at all, period. I would highly recommend watching several of the very well done animal cruelty documentaries. It is horrifying what we do to animals that we aren't even aware of. Like for example I thought that milk and eggs were harmless, but came to find out that those are two of the cruelest practices that we have.

@factitiously

2 жыл бұрын

@@MyGreenCloset I would also mention that animals are not necessary part of regenerative agriculture. That was a school of thought that came from a man called Allan Savory who created his holistic management theory in Africa many years ago. However, it has since been rigorously researched and found that his theory falls very short on science. Regenerative agriculture is actually possible without any animal inputs. This is possible through a practice called permaculture, which largely boils down to the practice of growing food forests rather than monoculture crops. You can even green deserts with the practice of permaculture--as one of its major proponents, Geoff lawton, has proven.

@MyGreenCloset

2 жыл бұрын

I understand all of that, and yes have watched animal cruelty documentaries. I have been researching animal welfare issues, avoiding meat and leather for almost 20 years and been mostly plantbased for close to 10 years. I appreciate critiques and feedback but this also isn't a new topic I'm just jumping into.

@factitiously

2 жыл бұрын

@@MyGreenCloset Then I don't understand why you are encouraging the continued breeding of unhealthy animals.

Needlessly exploiting an animal for their fur, especially when motivated by profit, is a violent and oppressive act.