not the fork decalsssssss. My man evan just commited war crimes

@casianalexandruczimbor2531

4 ай бұрын

ong bro, Fox has some of the best! 😔

@richardferedinos4238

4 ай бұрын

Agreed.

@aussie-mtbandmore8178

4 ай бұрын

You ruined the bike by taking of the fork decals!😢

@baulmitfahrrad4463

4 ай бұрын

i‘ll be honest, the bright orange logos just don‘t look good on most of the bikes (like in this case). if fox would put like stealth decals on there it would look way better

@ethanrevitch

4 ай бұрын

They’re bright orange 😐

And i thought drilling a dropper post hole was sketchy... Edit: i hadn't watched the video yet XD I thought he was gonna drill "speed holes" to make the frame lighter

@ArtisanCustoms

4 ай бұрын

me too lol

@Alkan_is_best

4 ай бұрын

same

@AndyJohnson-hi4rb

4 ай бұрын

comprimised the strength of the carbon, shame this guy is so sketchy lol rolling billboard for payin full price yet got bars half price lol guy needs give his head a wobble

@Ferrari255GTO

4 ай бұрын

@@AndyJohnson-hi4rb you don't have to pay exact full price to get something, i paid 200€ for my Fox DHX2 Factory series, now go look up how much it costs. It's not new but it was reconstructed recently and runs like new with a nearly 700€ difference in price. Can't say anything about "compromising the carbon" since i don't know to what degree the damage caused could potentially be catastrophic

Good fun, and a very light build! The ripped out water bottle rivnut hasn't compromised the frame, but it has damaged the carbon. A thin layer of epoxy will stabilize the frayed carbon, and either a vinyl decal, a piece of electrical tape, or even a piece of the 3M mastic tape over the hole will keep dirt and moisture out. Keep doing what you do, cheers👍‼

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Dan I will get right on that repair! I bought a carbon repair kit after I made the big hole haha

@mokujinsan9946

4 ай бұрын

@@EvansMTBSaga please do mate, I've worked a lot with carbon. It's to protect any loose carbon surrounding that rivet hole. Normally these areas are reinforced with an extra layer of expoy and carbon. But just to be safe I would at the very least add some TLC. Also wear a mask when working with carbon fibre... It's nasty shit. ♥️

The wife fork swap 👍😂👌. Great video 🤘

@peterfranzjr.1190

4 ай бұрын

This is what I came to say in the comments 😂

@MohammedIbrahim-hc5ti

3 ай бұрын

Lol

I keep watching this channel because Evan’s preferences fascinate me. Nobody else is wet sanding their M7 bars or taking decals off their Factory fork. He is the embodiment of “you do you and I’ll do me”

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

Nicely put! That's the spirit of mountain biking

mann i love logos, its a part of the reason i buy certain parts over others lol

Wonderful! Finally a youtuber who doesn’t hate on xc bikes

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

They're fun! I wish I wouldn't have let the MTB culture get to me with all the XC bike hate. I would've tried them sooner

This is a great stealth advertisement for the Reverb AXS 27.2 dropper. I enjoy your desire to de-badge everything, especially the tires and forks.

Love how that bike turned out! There's something about a crazy light bike that is special. Great video.

I was expecting a couple hundred holes drilled in the frame to save weight LOL.

@saloonatnoon

4 ай бұрын

Everybody was because that's what the clickbait title says

If the carbon fiber is frayed that hole is a weak point for cracks. Would file it down smooth, add aa layer of epoxy to the edges. If you want a full diy repair, i would use some carbon fiber bits mixed with epoxy and fill the hole. using a ballon on the inside to put some pressure.

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tips! I ordered a carbon repair kit and I was thinking about using a road bike inner tube, cutting it, inserting in the seat tube, then doing the repair, but I'm not sure if I should add a strip of carbon inside the seat tube

@ThelifeofJulien

4 ай бұрын

You can add a thin strip of carbon inside the tube. Pressure is key in getting a good bond.After that you can get to an body shop for a quick touch up with the airbrush

I love the de-branding. Customize your bike's ride and look to what fits you and don't get sucked into materialistic mtb! Buuuut you gotta consider a few things. If you have to wet-sand to get to the decals, you're removing clearcoat and scratching up the carbon. You can re-paint, but black tape (or carbon tape) or a sticker will achieve the look and keep the resale value while adding wear protection. If you plan to resell you should keep your original purchase receipts when you can to prove those bars are ENVE and not aliexpress, and expect some skepticism from buyers.

other logo removal doesn't bother me, but the fork decals are a must in my opinion. gotta show off how much you spent on it! (to be fair, when you have kashima it is pretty obvious)

I removed the decals off my fox 36 and then added stealth black. Barely noticeable but still there. That RF stem now looks like something off Amazon for 19$

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

Yeah the stem looks like race face ordered it some AliExpress then slapped their logo on. All good though cuz it was cheap and I wanted to try 70mm

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

Just checked, it was $28

@ThisGuyRides

4 ай бұрын

Actually, $19 stem on Amazon look pretty fancy, anodized in all different colors. Wouldn't trust one, though.

@NonLegitNation2

4 ай бұрын

@@ThisGuyRides I actually went from a $100 Race Face Atlas stem to a $25 ZTTO stem from Amazon because the Race Face stem didn't match the color scheme I was going with. The new stem has been great and I get tons of compliments on it because of the color (burnished copper/brass) I've never seen another stem like the one I have.

Those ESI grips are my favorite, I have those on all of my bikes

Great video and I agree screw logos. Can't help but wish you had time to reclear them after mucking up the coats, though!

Loving your video! Much Appreciated!!!❤

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

Nice brakes! I'd love to try your 4 pistons

Lewis brakes, good choice! Looking forward to hear how they perform.

A small Evans MTB Saga sticker will cover that hole up nicely. 👍🏼

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

Haha true!

@jf8534

4 ай бұрын

Honestly, I paid 350 Cad for a brand new Liv Tempt for my wife because it fell off the display and broke one of the water bottle screws. I used a small piece of black gorilla tape over the hole and you'd really have to look for it.

evan out here voiding warranties for the viewers and sportsfans!

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

All for your viewing pleasure!

I live in Norway so I don't need a water filter. Water from Norway can actually be bought in USA, Voss water is Norwegian tap water.😆 If there's contamination we get a warning.

I also broke a water cage screw, just use a 4-5-6mm rubber stopper plug to insert it and reattach the dropper seatpost and it will stay there forever :d

oh got my old hard tail serviced at my local trek shop and i got those grips and i loved them i got them in reddd

Love the logo removal. Dad taught me same. Hate stickers and big logos on products.

One of the only channels in the MTB genre that's still making original content. Nicely done Evan, you'd have 500k easy if KZread algo wasn't so backwards

Works great with more holes, than it is lighter. So you can make a cheap carbon frame as light as a pro carbon frame and the frame is 10 times stronger.

I laughed so hard with the shot and your reaction with them spraying the trail like that.

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

Haha yeah that was at the top of the hill. What was going on 😭

I love your 80s. style music

I appreciate the effort on these videos!

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Bobby. For some reason, this video took forever to film and edit

@ggmtb959

4 ай бұрын

hello

Sweet video.

keep it clean, keep it cool

I've got a Polygon Xtrada 5 I'm thinking about drilling the frame for a dropper. I knew Id have to drill 1 hole for the cable routing. Then I realized the water bottle cage was blocking insertion and would mean I need to drill 1 or 2 of them out. I've had the dropper a year + and haven't got around to trying it.

@user-kk9ez9hg4z

4 ай бұрын

You should've gotten an external cable routing dropper

Those r def my dream brakes so nice

I took the fork decals off my bike too I think it looks clean

A bet a good bit of the compliance comes from the ENVE m6 bar. I switched to that bar a few months ago and absolutely love it. 35 should’ve never taken off 31.8 carbon bars feel so good.

Please get some new decals matching the frame for that fork I hate how cheap a fork looks when you remove the decals

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

I thought about it, some maroon ones maybe. But they're so expensive and idk if you could tell I don't care about logos that much 😂

@FreeseMTB

4 ай бұрын

@@EvansMTBSaga i noticed personally I really like decals from slik graphics they have superior quality and at a great price

Amazing how much weight you were able to shed!! Pretty sweet new shower feature on Medusa. That'll be nice this summer! 😂

I have a Giant XtC Slr 29, which although is aluminum, its super light and has support for a dropper. Also quite compliant yet climbs like a beast. You should try it out!

Loved the waterboy reference

Great video! Love your work, just a tip if your trying to get a good amount of grams off id recomend changing the rotors as its srams hevier and thicker rotors out there! /Professional bike mechanic❤

I like XC and shorter travel bikes and have a Transition Spur myself. I find it funner than lugging around a 35lb bike.

I always remove decals. I love a clean look

I like the ESI chunky grips but I LOVE the Wolf Tooth Fat Paws. I feel like they have a little more grip and shock absorption but the best part is they go on and off the bars much easier. I like to constantly change my cockpit and would always accidentally tear and ruin my ESI grips. No longer have that issue with the Fat Paws.

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

Interesting! Thanks for telling me about those. Yeah those ESI chunky grips basically can't be removed to change stuff around without destroying them

@hugovela2919

4 ай бұрын

You can use an air compressor to blow them out. Just insert the nozzle on the inner side (closest to the stem) of the grip. Squeeze air in between the bar and grip. Then pull at the same time.

Finally a long build video🎉

Only 9k more to go. Just subbed finally.

Evan, my favorite mountain biking channel by far! Keep up the great content 😊

I think that fork looks amazing without the decals.

Sweet

love your vids bro

JB Weld putty for the win!

That build is my ideal bike build but with different frame

That’s really light! Personally I don’t like QR seat post clamps so I would replace those. I don’t use my big Garmin Edge 840 on my mountain bikes but like to use the small Edge 130. I only use my power meter on my gravel bikes. Since you’re trails seem to be well groomed and not too technical, you could probably use lighter casing tires and XC CushCore and that would dampen the rough sections.

I'm building a hybrid all round XC bike with my brother, it's a canyon nerve FR from 2012. We've installed a shorter 35mm stem, fresh grips, a new set of aliexpress 170 cranks to transition to a 1X11 (they feel extremely solid thus far) and a few other bits and pieces. We plan on getting an inverted fork, a new rear shock (since the old one feels extremely odd) and a set of Maxxis Hookworm tyres. It'll be a really fun experiment and it will give my brother a fairly capable bike for what he wants. Literally can't wait to see how it comes out, but we gotta wait since there's no budget RN

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

Sounds awesome! So 26" wheels? I've always wanted to build an early 2010s bike on the channel. Its interesting will all the varying standards

@Ferrari255GTO

4 ай бұрын

@@EvansMTBSaga yup, i actually haven't had a 27.5/29er yet, but from the experience i've had before i wanna keep my 26"

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

That's so cool!

@Ferrari255GTO

4 ай бұрын

@@EvansMTBSaga well, it's also inconvenient since all the new compounds and stuff are only available for 27.5-29. i really wanna try the super soft Magic Marys, they have to be crazy grippy

I’ve seen Lewis breaks on Surrons and they work really well so on a mountain bike they should be good

i race xc on my transition sentinel 160/150 and its fun but i would definitely get an xc bike if i had the money and cared enough but it works fine

A chip in the stanchion only matters really if it has a burr on it or if its really big you can lightly wet sand that burr away if it does so you prevent farther seal damager but do expect quicker seal maintenance intervals

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

I can feel it, but barely. I have some 2000 grit sandpaper so maybe I'll knock down that edge

ESI grips are all I run. Fyi. They're the best with gloves only.

Fox transfer SL is light, though only has 2 positions. It does work fast though and is kashima coated. Also, change the seat post collar. Save a few more grams.

I think you could even put less grippy/lighter/faster rolling tires on too. It makes a huge difference!

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

Dude those ground control tires are 800g and I have CushCore XC too! Huge area for improvement. Also (I cut this part from the video), I was talking about how those tires are awesome, but with this light of a bike I feel like the tire isn't deforming as much and is too stiff, so a lighter tire will be a must moving forward. Thanks for watching and commenting!!

as long as you didnt expand the hole or damage the carbon then the carbon is not compromised at all

Advertizing and logos are the first thing i pull off when i get a bike

Please don't make the mistake in the high - low - series to slamm the worst parts on the low bike, rather leave what's already on, or get something that's bang for buck, but paying for making it worse, is kinda crazy!

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

Oh yeah I definitely would not put crap on the low bike

In my opinion, forks without decals look much better, but when you go to resell them or sell a bike with them you will have people hesitant or skeptical of whether or not it is really a Rockshox or Fox fork. You will most likely have to buy another sticker kit anyway unless you are committed to keeping that fork.

I love taking off fork decals .... much cleaner looking

I’ve never heard someone refer to carbon frame as stiff, depending on the weave pattern the stiffness on carbon changes so carbon wheels are designed to be stiffer while frames are designed to be more compliant Edit: hairspray works the best for silicone grips, having put on many pair over the years it it’s quite slippery while it’s wet making them super easy to put on and is tacky when it dries so there is no chance they move

Fork looks blant, dull without decals. You should leave at least 3 and 4... Otherwise, bike is awesome and I like what you didn't with it.

You should do a quick review on the "Lewis" brakes 😀

I like those grips but they are bloody expensive in UK. Nice build btw.

I did same thing ( removing rivet for bottle cage on same place ) on specialized chisel m size for fitting 210mm dropper post. I can confirm it is nothing wrong in terms of structural integrity as a mechanical engineer. You would get Emotional Damage on the paint scratch though lol

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

Did you fill the holes? Thanks for weighing in with as a professional

@hyunhoyee4359

4 ай бұрын

@@EvansMTBSaga I just left it as is, but if you are worried about water going through that hole, I think ppf or any water ressistant film would be enough :)

Definitely do something to seal up the exposed carbon from that hole in the seat tube. UV light causes carbon to decay quicker and its important to have UV resistant paint or clear coat on carbon fiber that is exposed to light for the longevity of the frame

I would honestly just remove both the rivets sand the paint off in that area. Wrap a layer of carbon around the seat tube and re paint it.

Just an important tip. Protect that damn hole hehe. As you exposed the core of the carbon fiber in an uncontrolled way, would be nice to avoid water ingression into that. I mean, it should not be a problem, but just in case some delamination has occurred during the drilling.. besides that, go out and have a bunch of fun with this nice bike bro 🙌

Love the waterboy reference

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

Haha me too! Glad you caught that

My Aluminum 2018 GT Aggressor Comp, fully upgraded, weighs in just 27.8 lbs. Upgrades include TPU inner tubes, aluminum rims, lightweight spokes, chinese hubs (ARC MT009), Ti Axis, integrated carbon handlebars, a Suntour Epixon modded to 140mm and a TranzX dropper. IMO Polygon with the carbon wheels should be lighter. Could you go even lighter? Would be a great video. Last minute edit, mine is 27.5", so it may explain part of the reason.

6:53 if I get my dirty hands on a new fork the first thing I do is removing the decal. The market is full of nicely designed decals.

Me personally would of removed the polygon decal and sprayed it clear coat to show the carbon off... it would be lighter too.... nice build though... can't believe it's that light.... thanks for the video....

His poor wife belike Wtf happened to my fork and Dropper

I pull decals often as well. I was afraid you were going to try to convert that XC frame into something more hardcore. Glad you kept it XC, just capable! Planning on racing it???

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

Yup! I signed up for a US national cup in Fayetteville next month!

@Jinedan

4 ай бұрын

@@EvansMTBSaga Nice, see you there!

I removed the decals on my Fox 36s and on other forks. I dont think the FOX logos look very good. Looks so much more stealthy without them! Way to go!

@EvansMTBSaga

3 ай бұрын

Yeah I'm super glad I removed them, I was the most timid about removing them compared to the others

Evan, we need an “Evan’s BMX Saga” this summer!

can you please drop your tires choices, Ill be also building an agro xc this spring. thx

Takes logos off for a clean look is a perfect way to lower your wifes suspicions 😂

you didn't compromise the frame in the slightest. there are holes all over all structural tubing in bikes, motorcycles and cars

@EvansMTBSaga

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment! I ended up carbon patching it for fun. Turned out nice and brutalist. I even clear coated it

Love the ESI grips, been running them for a year. How is the stopping power on the Lewis brakes

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

Very strong! With the light bike, they are more powerful than my Shigura (although I think I need new pads for the Shigura)

Nice to see you build an XC bike, I hoped you'd get under 9kg! So sad to see the rivnut for the second water bottle go... It will be really useful on long marathons. Couple of advices from me about the XC ideology: If you want to trash the really heavy climbs, get your chest low. Also, get the front of your bike low, like really low. I'm talking 17 degree negative stem, zero rise bar. It will be faster on straights too. The dropper post is controversial. The thing with hitting drops with regular seatpost is that you need to ride bibs. They're close to your body, so you can move your butt over the seat and hit them this way. This much travel is just a bit too traily for me, but you're new to XC world, so you know... Eventually everyone who wants to be competetive gets that idea: Low front end, light bike, 2,25" tyres, good brakes, and they don't get any better than this

@EvansMTBSaga

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tips! I did my first XC race yesterday and already posted the video of the race kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZaVlqLOtl7CwYsY.htmlsi=vCQj-ZgOWFn7Ku73

re: the hole ... i would sand down a 1 inch ring around the seattube where the hole is, fill it with a carbon patch or some epoxy, sand smooth and paint it a color that fits. Black always works. Loving the no logos look too.

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip! Should I buy a sanding attachment for a tool or just do it by hand

@junkandcrapamen

4 ай бұрын

@@EvansMTBSaga I would probably do it by hand as it's only a tiny area, but I've never actually done this. So take my advice with a lot of salt.

OK but i REALLY like the synthwave stuff going on in your videos now 😍

Sand the hole, degrease it and fill it with a structural epoxy. Sand it again after 24 to 48h of curing. Job done.

@EvansMTBSaga

3 ай бұрын

I got a carbon patch kit with epoxy and hardener. Got it all filled and clear coated, turned around pretty good!

In my opinion stickers that you can just peel off are fair game. If the manufacturer didn't want them removed, they shoulda applied nice decals and covered with clear coat. Regular stickers are so... 90s

cool video, will all your frame mods defunct your warranty?

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

Most definitely 😂

Calling carbon frame heavy is just crazy in my head, 6 years ago I owned Marine Pine Mountain 27.5 wheels, steel frame and I thought it was pretty light and snappy feeling bike, but I was born in 1987 lol

A bit of ca glue on the knocked out water bottle bolt hole..

Great video, maybe try and build one that weighs less than 10kg

19:20 The reason for the squeal is the pad compound I think, usually noisier in slower pace braking. This is not as bad as Hope/Galfer purple pads. Those are uncomfortable to listen to. But rotor might playa role in noise too. But as this rotor was quiet with other pads on other brakes, this is the pads not the rotor. I'm curious how these brakes hold up, and the pad durability, longe very.

Any hardtail without dropper is a gravel bike. I use it all the time and lowering your body mass is a big deal.

Yes! No labels ftw, can't stand labels on everything.

5:08 try using 1/4 10mil sockets and extension. That’s what i use

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip I will try to find that dang 10mm socket lol

What ceramic coating did you use?

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

A brand called Pellicare. Good stuff!

ESI Grips are the only Grips I use on ALL my bikes. I was using them before I was sponsored by them

@EvansMTBSaga

4 ай бұрын

There is a more expensive version than the ones I installed (not sure of the model name). Do you recommend those over the standard chunky grips

Actually I like that logos. These unbranded things looks like something from TEMU. 🤣