*Updates:* (11/30/21): Annoyingly, KZread has removed the public dislike count. If you'd like to see the dislike count on this video, I suggest installing the 'Return KZread Dislike' extension (Firefox, Chrome, Edge). Good news! Python is now officially released for the HP Prime! Just update your calculator to get the new Python app! For those confused about tags like #ABA or #B1S I've made a thread that explains what these mean: www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-15386.html *(12/4/2020):* The price of the HP Prime G2 has dropped to $124 on Amazon! Be sure you look for the model ID 2AP18AA to ensure it's the G2 model. HP just released a software update that adds support for a *LCD refresh rate of 125hz* ! Although the colors and viewing angles are still terrible, the 125hz display is quite a unique feature for a calculator. Stay tuned, I'll be covering it in an upcoming video!

@xandilly

4 жыл бұрын

Where can this be installed? Thanks!

@TheLastMillennial

4 жыл бұрын

You'll need to install the HP connectivity kit. Then follow this thread: www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-14405.html

@Chrls5

3 жыл бұрын

At this point, why would you want to use your HP prime as a PC???, just install Python on a PC and forget using it on the calculator it is not even practical, it is a very complex language which will wear out your keyboard very fast, you know, keys have a limited number of times it can be pressed before it fails, so you want to key in the least times and still have an efficient program, this language just throws that factor out ! it's not even practical, unless there is a way of connecting an external keyboard to your Prime, but again , at that point is more comfortable to do it on a PC, look at this video, so that you clearly see what i mean, kzread.info/dash/bejne/pWGIpZiNgaqylbA.html

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

@@Chrls5 I'm confused why you thought the HP Prime was suppose to replace a PC? It's designed to be first and foremost a calculator. I also don't know where you got the idea that programming the calculator will wear out the keys quickly. If you look on Ebay for the HP 48g or TI-83 Plus, the vast majority of these calculators that are 20+ years old still have buttons that function perfectly. Python was added because of the standardized tests and curriculum in Europe that require it. Students may not be able to afford or bring a laptop into the classroom/exam room, but a calculator is much more accessible to them. I agree Python isn't the most efficient to type out but to compensate for that, HP has added on screen menus that bring up templates and commands. Python is such a widely known and available language, unfortunately, it's just not worth it to invest time into languages like RPL.

@MrWaalkman

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial I think that it was the Windows XP background shot @4:26 that confused him. As for wearing out the buttons, my 15C from the mid 80s is still going strong.

I’ve had my HP prime since 2014, and have only set the clock once. I just checked the clock now, and it’s only off by 22 minutes, including date. 22 minutes over the course of 6 years is really impressive for a calculator.

@goku445

3 жыл бұрын

You never connected it to your computer?

@confucheese

3 жыл бұрын

@@goku445 Nope

@goku445

3 жыл бұрын

@@confucheese Wow, that's impressive. Almost Casio watch level. 18 sec/month

@MrWaalkman

2 жыл бұрын

My G2 that I've had since 2019 is off by 7 minutes. Sad to say, I have only had it on for a couple of minutes and I've only charged it once to the best of my recollection (my 15C is still my favorite). Not too bad.

@mellowtube

6 ай бұрын

The best version of the hp prime is when it's emulated on a S21 ultra. Lol.

Man, this content is really good. Congratulations

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

It's finally here!

I read your review in museum of HP, and I just enjoyed this video. Thanks man.

That was really helpful, i almost bought an Nspire but then I luckily found this video. Just ordered an HP Prime.

@TheLastMillennial

Жыл бұрын

Enjoy!

THank you I have had my HP prime for several years and aidn't know about the double tap, well done...

I got my prime g2 nine months ago, (partially due to this review), and I must say, absolutely best scientific graphic calculator that I have ever owned. superb.

@TheLastMillennial

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear you're enjoying it!

@mellowtube

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial its speed and functionality is amazing 2300+ functions! Totally impressive. Your review if one of the best that I have ever seen. thank you so much. wondering if you could do a video on operation, and specifically PPL programing, would love to see that video.

@deadstar962

2 жыл бұрын

I just picked one up today

@santiagocas3683

2 жыл бұрын

@@mellowtube es mejor que una TI??? O una classpad??

@claudeshannan4000

2 жыл бұрын

Oh I will definitely buy it

This is the best review I have ever seen for a calculator :)

@TheLastMillennial

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate!

@TheLastMillennial

4 жыл бұрын

Yes I did! I believe this was one the largest script I've ever wrote and had one of the most revisions. Thank you!

@Alen069

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial can't find Casio cg-50 vs hp prime😭😭

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

@@Alen069 From my limited knowledge of that calculator, the Casio GC-50 is nothing to scoff at. Although it's not nearly as fast as the HP Prime G2, it does have Python support. I don't you'll be dissatisfied if you get either one.

@Alen069

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial i have casio fx-991ex and its brutal, but i cant find hp prime online, i dont know how to buy it(i am in Europe)

Solid review! Thank you!

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

great video , just what I looking for to improve my HP50g

@TheLastMillennial

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'm glad you found it useful!

Thank you for a superb in depth review, (I came here from the HP Museum site). I was looking to replace my aging HP48, (display failing), for daily use, this review has convinced me to buy the Prime G2. I'm a semi retired engineer and have been an HP user from the HP41CV, which I bought to replace a terrible, (for programming), TI59. The 48 has been amazing, but even though I have a spare, I don't want to carry it around any more, too precious to risk it getting lost or damaged.

@TheLastMillennial

25 күн бұрын

Glad you found it useful!

I'll have to get one just for the pleasure of it.

@deadstar962

2 жыл бұрын

I jus got one for the pleasure of it lol for 150 this thing is amazing the touchscreen is the best part

Very good and useful video

Buen video y muy buena calculadora!

@TheLastMillennial

4 жыл бұрын

Gracias!

My top complaint for this calculator is its lack of a second parentheses key, this makes it extremely infuriating to put parentheses in after the fact, my next complaint is that when you select the fraction button it doesn’t put the number right before it as the numerator, but you might say that you could just use divide, but no, that takes the number and whatever it is multiplied by and puts it as the numerator. this may not technically be a problem, but it becomes annoying when doing chemistry calculations and laying them out visually, and these are the reasons why I also always bring a scientific calculator with me. Other than these minor problems though, this is worlds best calculator hands down.

@TheLastMillennial

2 жыл бұрын

I find the parenthesis combo button a minor nuisance. It's something I've just gotten use to after so long. I also wish the fraction wouldn't put everything into the numerator but that's just how higher level calculators work, the Nspire CX II has the same behavior.

Great video! Thanks!

@TheLastMillennial

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you found it useful!

The Ti 84 should be compared to the HP50G and not to the Prime. The best calculator HP has ever done was the HP48GX and I with they put the prime hardware inside the 48 box. These older slower machines have slow processors but that makes their batteries last months. The older 48 and 50 also enabled assembly programming and there are tons of very well done software for them including the CAS that HP later incorporated on the 50G. The 50G does not have the same buttons and case as the 48 (a pity) but is more complete. Long time HP users will always with HP had built their new HP graphing calculator on the 48 case. I find the colors on the Prime buttons (and text size) to be way too small and hard to read. HP calculators were used by engineers and Ti by high school students ... HP went for the Ti market and left engineers behind. People are already working on an app to make it behave like the 50G.

Good review. What do you think of the NumWorks calculator? Open hardware and Opensource, fast and a cheap price.

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

Numworks is a great calculator. If it had a touch screen and first party CAS, it'd be about equal to the HP Prime in terms of features and speed.

Apart from a very brief mention of the Casio at the beginning and an older dated version at the end of the video, this otherwise excellent review doesn't actually compare the Prime with the Colour Casio Classpad at all. Which in my opinion is the closest rival, due to its full touch screen and graphics manipulation like the prime. In fact this review overlooks the Classpad and its capabilities completely. Can you do another comparison between the Prime and just the Classpad CP400/500?

I saw a comment below stating that you can't buy a new HP Prime any longer. This is incorrect, I just bought a spare. :) You can still buy them new from Amazon in 2023. The G2 model can be confusing to pick out, but the part number that you want is 2AP18AA for the G2. If it has "#ABA" at the end of the part number, that's the US version, "#B1S" is for European markets. Otherwise it's the same calculator. Be aware that the G8X92AA part number is the original Prime, and has been superseded by the 2AP18AA version.

you are the man !!!!!

@TheLastMillennial

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Can you please provide links to the g2 calculator, because I cannot find them they are all in european. By the way, when was the g2 version of this calculator released?

@TheLastMillennial

4 жыл бұрын

Hi, the HP Prime G2 was released in 2018. I know people who have bought it from Best Buy here: www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-prime-handheld-graphing-calculator-black/6348951.p?skuId=6348951 . It looks like Amazon has started carrying it here: www.amazon.com/dp/B07HF6RXGG/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_hmomEbPN9AN6T If you aren't certain you're getting the G2, here's where I bought mine in the Netherlands: www.derekenwinkel.nl/hp-prime-grafische-rekenmachine-1271.html

Hello,i have a Prime G2,very powerful pocket computer.Just one question: i saw in your video the picture of a torus,but in my Prime there are not parametrics 3D. How did you do?

@TheLastMillennial

4 жыл бұрын

I apologize for the late reply! I simply had two equations. One plotted the top half, the other plotted the bottom. Nothing fancy.

The fact that they did not fix the screen is mind blowing. It works at all angles except the way that I need it to read it which is about a foot and a half in front of me. Or purchase a new screen or mod the one in there?

@TheLastMillennial

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's pretty dumb. Unfortunately I don't think there's going to be a fix for the G2 but it may be possible on a G1 HP Prime since (if you manage to successfully turn around the screen) you can edit the OS so it makes everything right side up still.

Lo vi en el foro y no pensaba leerlo, pero en video sí que se puede ver xD

@TheLastMillennial

4 жыл бұрын

Gracias, espero que lo hayas disfrutado! Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

I have an nspire but I like the hp ability with the touchscreen.

Oh dear this is amazing thing...

I love tapping buttons and feeling asmart!

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

It sure is fun :)

A+ for postfix support C- for light theme

Great video. Thanks! It's possible that the screen is more visible from the upper side for the exam mode. Like this teachers can see what you're doing (front of the student desk if the teacher gets close enough) but not your classmates (left, right or back).

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

That's definitely a side effect of the screen's current orientation, but it's not the reason for it. Generally the teacher looks for the blinking testing LEDs on the top of the calculator to verify it's in Exam Mode from far away. The most likely reason for its orientation is cutting manufacturing costs.

I have a love/hate relationship with the HP Prime. Love because it is a powerful and fast calculator and the CAS is really good. Hate because there is no RPN in CAS and the keyboard is not as good as the previous HP 50g and HP 48. I use my HP Prime only for graphics and some advanced CAS functions but for numerical calculations I use my HP 48 mainly because of the better keyboard layout.

@cv97035

3 жыл бұрын

Take good care of that HP 48. I have two and I am afraid to touch them anymore! :)

@costakeith9048

3 жыл бұрын

@@cv97035 HP50's are a reasonable replacement for the HP48 if you don't need the expansion card slots, though I'll admit the keyboard isn't quite as good it makes up for it with speed. But the HP Prime was a huge step backwards with it's limited RPN.

@cyke6590

2 жыл бұрын

@@cv97035 I love my HP 28S too !

@odarge

3 ай бұрын

very well summarized. In case of failure with the 48G, the Swissmicros DM42 and the HP15C CE are good successors in case of number crunching ...in RPN ! ;-)

Did you fitted the screen protector yourself or you got it done somewhere?

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

I fit it myself. It was pretty easy.

I want to buy one for college work...what's the most recent hp graphing calculator for 2022?

Excellent review, but I saw that HP discontinued their prime calculator (no longer in their store, and their customer support confirmed that to me), do you still think it is a wise choice to get? If not, what is the next best thing?

@BasselSherif

3 жыл бұрын

and which model?

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

Ugh, HP support is super dumb. The Prime is *not* discontinued, HP just doesn't carry it for some reason. In fact, I'm currently testing the third beta OS the HP calculator developers released this month so the Prime is still very much in active development. I still think the Prime is a wise choice and once this OS is out of beta, it'll be an even better choice since it's gaining Micro-Python support among other important upgrades.

@iamsmashy

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial Is it still the case that is is not discontinued? Looking at this vs the TI Nspire CX II CAS and want to make sure I have support in the future. I have not dug into your review yet (or your other vids, I probably will tomorrow) but I've heard that the prime cant do 3d graphing nearly as well as the nspire, is this true? Feel free to direct me to a spot on your article or a video if you've already covered it. Very thorough video by the way, nicely laid out.

@TheLastMillennial

2 жыл бұрын

@@iamsmashy It's not discontinued still. The last software update was just a few months ago. In my limited experience with the Nspire, I remember its 3D graphing performance was pretty impressive. However, it wasn't significantly better than the Prime. When plotting multiple simple graphs, the Prime and the Nspire both handle the plots easily and it just comes down to whether you like rotating the plot with the touch screen or touch pad better. Its been such a long time I don't remember much of comparing more complex 3d plots.

@iamsmashy

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial I seriously appreciate you responding so quickly. I’m an engineering student and I’m looking to up my game (especially because I’ve been borrowing a calculator). I’m going to go with the prime, especially since 3D graphing isn’t too different. Super glad you included those model numbers as well because I would have never known. Thanks a ton!

wow! First I would like to say that calculators are required in some classes, but when you can get away with it you can use online graphing an d scientific calculators that are better than their physical counterparts, and best of all their free! Geogebra and desmo are both great!

I have a question. I am a AP student, on the official website of AP calculator support list it does support “HP Prime”. But the problem is that it refers to the old version or the latest g2?

@TheLastMillennial

Жыл бұрын

It's referring to both. Although the hardware of the G2 is different on the inside, the software is nearly identical so there's no unapproved functions on the G2. The G2 also looks exactly like the G1 models except for the G2 logo on the back.

Any updates on the 3D parametric grapher or programming languages? I want to buy this calculator and I heard the hp prime gets software updates, so I want to know if they added those things

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

The built-in Python compatibility via the CAS has improved slightly, but it's still no where near as good as competing calculators. HP is definitely working on that but the team is so tiny they're having a hard time pushing out features. There hasn't been any development on the 3D parametric grapher.

@luisvaldez6055

3 жыл бұрын

TheLastMillennial would you choose this calculator or the ti nspire II CAS?

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

So long as you don't need Python or any of the other missing features, then yes, I highly recommend it!

where dd you get a tempered glass screen protector that fits the hp prime?

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

I don't remember anymore. I probably just searched "HP Prime screen protector" on Amazon.

Excuse me for my ignorance, but what are the differences between the 2AP18AA and the 2AP18AA#ABA models? On Amazon I've found the 2AP18AA#B1S model, is it yet another version, in what does it differ from the other two? Thank you for the video, I'm going to buy a new cas calculator and it has been very helpful.

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

As I understand, it's the same calculator. There may be slightly different components on the inside as HP refines the hardware but you'll be getting the same performance as any G2 model. I can ask my HP friends to confirm this.

@serra_edoardo

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial Thank you, it just seemed odd to me that there are different models without any specifications online about the differences. Now I can buy it safely.

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

I apologize but I was incorrect. The calculator you're getting is still exactly the same, but the tag at the end specifies what packaging you'll be getting. For example #ABA means you'll be getting a US wall adapter in the box along with USB cables. My HP Prime had the tag of #B1S which meant it only came with USB cables. I've made a thread here: www.hpmuseum.org/forum/thread-15386.html

So what is the difference between the Version 2 and the original? Any hardware improvement? Thanks

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Major hardware improvements! It has over 4 times the RAM and ROM and a much faster CPU along with a better battery. I highly recommend the G2 over the original.

I got the G1 HP Prime that runs at 400 MHz. I am curious about the specs differences because I recall seeing a video of my tunnel game running way faster.

@TheLastMillennial

4 жыл бұрын

If you just need the specs I've documented them on Cemetech www.cemetech.net/tools/prime

Can you simplify radicals/square roots on this calculator and can you do this on the ti 84 plus ce?

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, the HP Prime simplifies them automatically. It's not possible to do this on a TI-84 Plus CE, it will always convert them to decimal values.

@masonkahn1229

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial Thanks so much that totally impacted my decision between the two!

3:05 I did the very same test on my Casio fx-991LAX and it took only four seconds.

Thanks for this great review, I've watched it 3 times in the last week, and it has finalized my decision to buy a Prime a few days ago. I had been trying to decide between the Prime or Nspire.

@TheLastMillennial

4 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

hello, ¿which graphing calculator do you think would be the best option for a professional use?. thank for the video

@TheLastMillennial

2 жыл бұрын

The choice depends on what interface you prefer. If you enjoy touch screens then the HP Prime will be better. If you like keyboards then the Nspire CX II CAS will be better. You won't be disappointed with either calculator.

@johnnavia1566

Жыл бұрын

i bought the hp prime. its is a powerfull tool, you can use its capacity to plot functions and graphics to make easier the understanding of many relations in mathemathics and physics... and it is a really fast and intuitive machine.. also i have implemented many programs that have boost my work flow.. thanks a lot

I have the G2 Prime and the screen is fine and correctly oriented.

@TheLastMillennial

6 ай бұрын

I'm sure the picture is the correct orientation but the lcd itself probably isn't. If you tilt the screen away from you does the top status bar turn black?

@ultrametric9317

6 ай бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial Stays blue up to about 40 degrees and can read the title up to 60. But the screen text is easily readable down to 80+ degrees. To me it seems like a typical cheap phone. The other direction, from the top, the colors are better but the text is way worse. Anyway a non-issue for use.

How would someone do a function like say...input a formula into a column to apply into the next column. for example D2=D2^2 to make it actually calculate without giving an error message in 1 var stats?

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

I have no idea, I've never used that before. www.hpmuseum.org/forum/forum-5.html Is probably the best place to ask this.

Sorry for my dumb question, but my English isn't that good, for my industrial engineering, you recommend the hp prime or the casio classpad II? I don't really find comparisons on KZread

@TheLastMillennial

8 ай бұрын

Definitely get the HP Prime. The HP Prime has a better screen, better buttons, and is faster. I did a short comparison of the calculators here: www.cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=282881#282881

@MiguelRamirez-fq4je

8 ай бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial thank you so much for your answer!!

Great review on the HPPRime. I do also love this machine. Worth to mention is the emulator / implementation for android! It pretty much gives you an HPPrime on the smartphone, and it also connects to the Connectivity Kit like the hardware. That's great. What I am searching for is a kind of hardware IO for the Pime. kind of serial connection to an external microcontroller aka arduino, ESP, raspberry... did anyone hear someting about such possibility? Andreas

I heard that updating the HP Prime G2 firmware creates big problems, like losing the touch screen. Is this true? Thanks.

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

That was a really old problem that was fixed long ago. You can safely update.

@paulgets2737

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial I updated without any problem, thank you again.

Gracias, pero es demasiado difícil encontrar este modelo HP en el mercado

Amazing video! Congratulations! In this week, my HP Prime battery sucks, and I'm not find some new one to replace. Some people say that Samsung Galaxy S3's battery is compatible with HP Prime, I'm in doubt if this battery is compatible with G2 calculator or only with G1 (as said in Wikipedia), can you help me with this? Thanks a lot!

@TheLastMillennial

Жыл бұрын

The same batteries are compatible across the G1 and G2.

@gabrieltoffanettofrancadar4932

Жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial Thanks!!

Hello, thank you very much for the video! I have a question, what battery can I use as a replacement for this G2 model? I've been reading that samsung galaxy s3 battery can be use as a replacement but the battery of G2 is 2000mAh and the galaxy's 2100 mAh. Is this not going to cause a problem?

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you found it useful! The battery capacity (measured in mAh) won't be a problem. The higher the mAh number, the more charge the calculator can hold leading to longer battery life. I've been using a 2,500 mAh Galaxy S3 battery in my calculator for the past year without issue. Just be aware that capacities over 2,500 may start messing with the battery dimensions and will be too thick for the calculator.

@lavrarobles

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial Thank you!

hp calculator user since 1988. 28S, 48sx, etc. the build quality is near perfect. Shit almost forgot the 11C. That got me through Naval Nuclear Power school. Just ordered the Hp prime G2 today.

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

HP does know how to nail their hardware!

@mellowtube

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial Absolutely!

I know this is old, but I just played around and found that 5e^4 causes an issue, but e^4 then the 5 does not.

Hi I want to know the difference between this version and the HP PRIME 2AP18AA? And the HP PRIME G2...I'm really confused and I want the newest version for 2022 TFT for graphing.....please help

@TheLastMillennial

Жыл бұрын

HP Prime 2AP18AA is just the model number of the HP Prime G2. The HP Prime G2 is still the latest calculator from HP.

@kingkweku9761

Жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial thanks alot for the clarification

Tenía una 50g la perdí ahora iré por esta. Favor sube los links para los accesorios pouch y screen protector. Gracias por el analisis muy buen Review!

@TheLastMillennial

4 жыл бұрын

Here is the screen protector I'm using: www.amazon.com/dp/B07Q36JPB5/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_GhyuEbGYG62WH I do not have any personal experience with calculator pouches, however I searched for "HP Prime Case" on Amazon and found this which is designed to fit the calculator: www.amazon.com/dp/B07KWSYM4H/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_tnyuEb97J29VM I'm glad you enjoyed the review! I'm sorry I couldn't post this in Spanish, I am not sure how badly Google Translate will mess up the context with the links.

How do I connect the hp to the computer to update software? Do I nneed to go to a special website? Thankyou

@TheLastMillennial

Жыл бұрын

Just search for the HP Connectivity Kit. It should automatically recognize the calculator needs an update.

Does python work on the old Prime or does one have to buy the New?

@TheLastMillennial

2 жыл бұрын

It works well on the old Prime as well

Is there a manual that comes with the HP calculator ?

@TheLastMillennial

2 жыл бұрын

It comes with a short getting started guide. Nothing super detailed though. www.hpmuseum.org/forum/forum-5.html or hpcalc.org would be the best resources to learn about the calculator.

How far off do you think a 3D parametric grapher is? Thanks! Great Video!

@TheLastMillennial

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, it does not seem to be a priority for HP. I suspect they're working on some sort of Python app or simple bug fixes instead. I have no idea when they'll release it but I don't think it'll be anytime soon. :(

@bartsimpson4668

4 жыл бұрын

TheLastMillennial Aw that sucks. Hopefully someone takes it upon themselves. Thanks for the fast response🙌🏼.

@alexgian9313

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial Do you reckon that the graphing API is capable enough to allow the writing of a decent 3d parametric plotter with PPL? Thanks for the review, very informative and complete!

@TheLastMillennial

4 жыл бұрын

Alex Gian, I apologize for missing your comment. Yes, PPL is certainly powerful enough for a 3D parametric grapher, we just need a developer or an experienced community members to make it!

@bartsimpson4668

4 жыл бұрын

TheLastMillennial 123 not it :)

For me, the one thing that is missing in the HP Prime is a buzzer or speaker / sound and tone functions (that existed in all previous top of the line HP calculators since the HP-41 in 1980). If they added this, it would be nearly perfect.

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

That's an unusual wish list. Unfortunately, standardized test prohibit anything that makes any noise so a speaker would ban the Prime from most tests. I've never used a calculator with a built-in speaker so maybe I don't know what I'm missing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@vincentgoudreault9662

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial HP's first ever pocket calculator, the HP-35, was intended to be an *engineering* tool. College tests represent a time span of 6 years in someone's life; after that, people are not going to toss away their calculator, are they? At worst, the requirement for silence is something that could be a mute mode. Or there could be a "engineering" or "professional" version of the Prime, with the features (wi-fi, sound, infra-red communication, instrumentation interface) that would not be allowed in a student's calculator. I would buy that in a second, even at double the price of my current Prime.

@vincentgoudreault9662

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial There could be a lot of value in being able to produce sound. Suppose for instance, that you have an iterative calculation that returns intermediate results regularly, and needs to run a quite a while. You could stare at the display as the most recent results scroll by, but that could be tiring and would not give you much information on the fly. But suppose that there was a tonal frequency associated with the value of the results? You could listen and pick up patterns. Not saying that they would be important all the time, but certainly useful at time. Here is a video perhaps worth watching: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nYSGo5KQYc6rc8o.html This shows sorting algorithms in action, with the value being sorted, and a tone associated for each value. I find it mesmerizing. This is something that one could do with an HP-50; if the calculator could run fast enough.

@darylcheshire1618

2 жыл бұрын

I suppose sound could be eliminated in exam mode. Unless no speaker/or piezo was a non negotiable stipulation for exams.

@vincentgoudreault9662

2 жыл бұрын

@@darylcheshire1618 I suppose it is always a possibility, the issue being how does an examiner ensures that it has been deactivated? Still, that is a secondary consideration: there are plenty of calculators with the lack of otherwise desirable features that make them eligible for exams around; the point is: who cares about those with a need OUTSIDE of examinations? Where are the all-singing, all dancing *professional* calculators?

How do you adjust the system color to a white orange?

@TheLastMillennial

6 ай бұрын

Press shift then home then scroll to the second page. The color options are next to 'Color theme:'

5(e^4) works fine without multiplication symbol

i feel stupid asking but can you do a tutorial on how to set up the charging? I cant seem to figure it out.

@TheLastMillennial

Жыл бұрын

Apologies for my previous reply, I showed the wrong calculator. The HP Prime uses a micro usb charging cable. The cable will only plug in one way. You can plug the other end into a laptop or charging brick. If the calculator is getting power it will show a charging icon. I'd recommend leaving the screen on while it's charging since it can have problems charging all the way when off.

@TheLastMillennial

Жыл бұрын

Tutorial done: kzread.info/dash/bejne/i4dq15WIZajWhto.html

The HP prime g2 is most likely the best calculator available.

@mellowtube

6 ай бұрын

The best way I have ever used the HP prime, is emulated on a S21 Ultra.

The 84 plus CE is an old calculatort, right? Batteries probably last months.

@TheLastMillennial

10 ай бұрын

Yes they do last months however, it's not because it's old, the CE is in a completely different performance class than the HP Prime. The CE's processor is extremely low powered which is why it's battery life is so great.

The touchpad Ti nspire cx2 cas is wonky

Is the HP prime G2 also the Hp Prime Graphing Calculator Ii

@TheLastMillennial

2 жыл бұрын

If the product IDs contain 2AP18AA or there's a circle with G2 on the back of the calculators then yes they are the same.

Would this be considered one of the best current graphic calculators or would it be outperformed by some recent ones?

@TheLastMillennial

Жыл бұрын

It's still on top. The Nspire CX II CAS is its main competitor

@Asdfgadv33423

Ай бұрын

​@@TheLastMillennialHello. I just ordered CX II CAS. I can't decide if i should send it back and order HP prime g2 or not... i am a first year mathematics and computer science student

@TheLastMillennial

Ай бұрын

Unfortunately the HP Prime G2 hasn't received updates in quite a while. It's still a good calculator but I don't feel comfortable recommending it when there's still bugs you could encounter. Unless the Nspire's UI is unbearable for you, there's no need to return it.

@IndigoFuemego

Ай бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial Hi! Know it's been less than a month since your reply, but would if you were to buy one now, would you go Prime G2 or Nspire CX II Cas?

@TheLastMillennial

Ай бұрын

Same answer

Anyone knows the settings to divide with a comma by thousands digits? help me please

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

Are you typing something like "9,000/1,000" and manually putting in the comma? If so, no graphing calculator will accept that kind of input. You'll need to remove those commas or write a program to do it for you.

which is best classpad ll or hp prime?

@TheLastMillennial

2 жыл бұрын

I really prefer the build quality of the HP Prime over the class pad. The classpad's screen is resistive rather than capacitive, and the buttons are horrible to use in my experience. However, if your teacher does not allow CAS in their class, then you can't use the HP Prime.

Hay alguna manera de compararlos a primera vista? (Entre la G2 y la G1)

@TheLastMillennial

4 жыл бұрын

No puede distinguir la diferencia a menos que mire la parte posterior de la calculadora. El HP Prime G2 tendrá un círculo con las letras G2 dentro del círculo. El HP Prime G1 no tendrá la marca. Pido disculpas por el descuidado español. Estoy usando un traductor.

@foskos6025

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial muchas gracias!,. Thank you very much. 👍, Buen vídeo, good video.

The 5e^2 error is correct. It sees the "e' as a sci notation entry . As in 2e10 is 2 x 10^10

@TheLastMillennial

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think I had considered that. Thanks for sharing!

This calculator doesn't have a computer software like the one that the TI NSPIRE CX comes with?

@TheLastMillennial

4 жыл бұрын

It does, it's called HP connectivity kit you can get it here: www.hp-prime.de/en/category/15-software

@Emadavid

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial thanks, I saw a glimpse of it at the end of your video. When I was an instructor in college I used it more than the calculator itself since I could create the lab class, examples with calculations on text

all these hp aps are included or gotta give them more money

@TheLastMillennial

Жыл бұрын

They're included. They're also free to download and use.

hp prime g2's performance is way better than nspire 2. But I have find many bugs when using hp prime. Sometimes I feel it's an unfinished product.

@TheLastMillennial

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah the software is really a big downer on the HP Prime. The developers I know are great people, I just don't know why the team can't push out some of the features and bug fixes quicker.

HP needs to bring back the classic look. Also need to bring back RPL and full blown python

@TheLastMillennial

Жыл бұрын

So a 48g with python?

I look at this thing and think; i want.... but dreams should be held as dreams... the school is never going to approve it, to many functions

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

That's really too bad. It'd be perfectly acceptable if the school used Exam Mode which allows teachers to control what features they want you to have during a test. It's accepted on the SAT if that's important to you.

@kevinkasp

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial The Exam Mode allows you to turn off the CAS and other functions, and you set the amount of time for them to be turned off from 15 minutes all the way up to 7 hours. And when it's in Exam Mode lights show a pattern that it is still in Exam Mode so a teacher can see from a distance you're not cheating. Furthermore you can't take it off exam mode by removing the batteries, turning it off and on or anything else. The amount of time entered must elapse first.

Would you prefer the cg50 or the hp prime?

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

I need the features of the HP Prime that the cg50 doesn't have such as built-in CAS. I also prefer the Prime's touch screen instead of the button ui on the cg50. If you don't need CAS, you won't be disappointed with either one though.

@juliopuerta5049

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial is the graphing better on hp?

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, I don't have much on-hand experience with it so I couldn't say for sure. There's a few videos comparing these calculators, I suggest you take a look at them so you can get a well rounded idea on what the calculators are like to use.

I wonder about the Numworks, I think it's really a good price, and is easily modded

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

The Numworks is nothing to scoff at. However it's a trade off. HP Prime G2 gets CAS and a touch screen while Numworks is cheaper and has Python support.

@JessicaFEREM

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial for hackers, the numworks is a godsend, for about $20 more you can add a raspberry pi and code support into it to control the pi.

@OndrejPopp

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting! I have a HP Prime (not G2) but that one suffers from file system corruption. I wrote a lot of software on it concerning my research into the Collatz conjecture. So once in a while the menus and the memory get corrupted. The latest update I tried includes all the user functions inside the catalog which makes the catalog now unusable to me because it can not hold all the functions I wrote... I contacted HP support about the filesystem corruption and they wanted to have all my software but I am not releasing that to them concerning my work on the Collatz conjecture although I promised to make a stripped down version to see if that one will still cause the file system corruption but then I never really came to it. Also because HP support does not appear to be working on this all that hard and all the material I sent them containing corrupted files never got any serious response. They just want to have all my software.... In the meantime I have been using the calculator just for simple calculations but I stopped programming on it. Although, the filesystem corruption aside it is a great machine! So I was looking at this video how G2 is doing and seeing that it locks up in that game and needs to be reset made me wonder whether the filesystem corruption is still there... Although it has more RAM which could help. And then I saw your comment on Numworks... And that is interesting, maybe design an other board with a more powerful processor, more RAM and a touch screen and use the same case or keypad. Or maybe... open up my HP prime and put an other board inside it and run the open source Numworks/Epsilon os on it? Or maybe put a Raspberry Pi 4 inside? Or.... 😃😃😃

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry about the file system corruption! I do hope you back up your important files regularly! I've also learned to do that the hard way. The HP calculator team appears to be cripplingly tiny. Although it's not ok that you never got a serious response, I think the team just needs more manpower that HP won't give them. It's really a shame because with some better software and customer service the HP Prime would be unbeatable. It would be pretty awesome if you managed to fit a raspberry pi inside the Prime or the Numworks calculator. Let me know if you decide to try that!

@JessicaFEREM

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial This will probably be caught by the spam filter, but here's the link to the project on github :-) zardam.github.io/post/raspberrypi-numworks/

Is hp prime discontinued? Is it true that hp stopped making calculators?

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

Not at all. The Prime isn't discontinued, HP just doesn't carry it on their website for some reason. Unfortunately I don't have insight as to why this is. The HP calculator team releases several betas a few months ago so the Prime is still very much in development.

@TheLastMillennial

Жыл бұрын

@@TB-wvvvw HP's development of new calculator has certainly halted for the foreseeable future. However, I think it's fair to interpret "making calculators" as "producing calculators"; HP still produces and sells the HP Prime.

Does the G2 use RPN?

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

It does have the option of using RPN, but don't expect the same level of integration the HP-48g, 49g or 50g had.

@tmatt1999

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial Thank you, my 48gx works well, I think I'll keep it.

Plz make a tutorial to how to use Python provided plot library ... Matplotl

@TheLastMillennial

Жыл бұрын

That's not really my specialty. However, you can always ask on the HP Prime forum: www.hpmuseum.org/forum/forum-5.html

Hello everyone. Great review. I am wanting to buy the hp prime g2 but held back by font size and character positioning on the screen. The characters are all so small because there is so many lines in the display. And the characters are not in a natural place as they would be written. The independent terms 3×4 appears on extreme left of bottom line but the dependent terms 12 result is hard against the right side 3 inches away. When we write equations on paper we put terms together. Also when we write we start at top of page and write downwards adding lines. But on the hp lines move up from the extreme bottom of the screen. Finally the characters are so small you have to concentrate down hard to read. I did read possibility of a small medium large font default but did not know if this was on the calculator or only on the emulator. Pls could people help me with these three issues. Good day and thank you.

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

I saw your post on Cemetech and replied there: www.cemetech.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=293893#293893

@Raison_d-etre

Жыл бұрын

Get used to it. People have long been used to seeing results far apart from the expressions on calculators.

what is ur idea casio cg50.. as a second purchase ,, hp is a sure one

@TheLastMillennial

Жыл бұрын

I haven't personally used one. However, the general community sentiment is it's not a bad calculator. However, it doesn't have CAS built in so I wouldn't recommend if that's something important to you.

@kaybhee6

Жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial noted... thanks

Is the HP allowed in exams?

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

It always depends on the standardized test, go to the test's website and check if it's on the allowed calculator list. If you're talking about classroom tests, then you should ask your professor if they allow calculators with CAS on their tests.

7:11 Probably expecting 5E3 (=5000) an invalid exponent when seeing 5e³

@TheLastMillennial

4 жыл бұрын

Might be, who knows though since the error doesn't tell you. :/

I chose the ti Nspire cx II cas over this one for Calculus C, ap stats, and multi variable calculus, and more other advanced classes. I am a freshman in high school (I finished ap calc ab in the summer before freshman year. I chose the ti over the prime because although the processing power is better, the cas feature is much much better (way more features).

@nahbro7282

3 жыл бұрын

Also, I got min for about $140 off amazon

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

What specific CAS features does the Nspire have the the Prime doesn't? I haven't looked into that a whole lot but I've never run into any limitations with XCAS on the Prime throughout Calculus. Nevertheless, I don't think you'll be disappointed with the Nspire. If you didn't hear, the Ndless jailbreak was recently released for your calculator so you can now run some awesome programs!

@nahbro7282

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial I think I just meant the menu. I'm not sure what features specifically what the nspire had over the prime., all I know is the menu was muchhhh bigger. I'm not really sure what ndless is, what is it?

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

@@nahbro7282 looking solely on the size of the menu is not a good way at all to determine the abilities of the calculator. I've looked into this a bit and from what I've read, Xcas on the Prime actually has more features and is geared towards higher level math since it's a newer type of CAS. For example, certain functions like [(5*sqrt(2)+7)^(1/3)-sqrt(2)-1] can't be simplified on the Nspire even though the Prime can correctly simplify it to 0. There are a few drawbacks to Xcas since it's not as polished as Derive on the Nspire, but the point is: don't judge a CAS by its menu. ;)

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, I forgot to tell you about Ndless! It's basically a jailbreak that lets you run code TI absurdly bans. This allows you to run games and programs that are significantly more powerful than anything you could make with the tools TI officially gives you. You can learn more about it here: ndless.me/ (note: site doesn't display normally on mobile)

My TI-92+ is finally dying after more than 20 years. Here's my big question: does its computer algebra system understand and allow in-expression use of units of measure? Solving real-world measurement problems is the functionality I've most valued in my TI-92+.

@TheLastMillennial

8 ай бұрын

I'm sorry to hear that! Hopefully you can get it repaired? Yes the HP Prime can handle units in expressions

By far the best graphing calculator on the market. Too bad HP has discontinued it.

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

Where did you see that? HP has certainly not discontinued it, they just don't sell it from their website. You'll have to get it from Amazon or some other vendor.

what is the latest version?

@TheLastMillennial

Жыл бұрын

Version of what exactly? Hardware? Software?

@ilmari9120

Жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial hardware, the latest version(of hp prime g2) that leaves the factory, how to identify it in stores.

@TheLastMillennial

Жыл бұрын

Look for the product code 4FJ23AA or 2AP18AA on the box (likely near the bar code). That will ensure it's a G2 model. The G2 is 5 years old at this point so it's quite easy to fine the new hardware.

Does it crash on you?

@TheLastMillennial

Жыл бұрын

Typically only when I'm programming. It's been fine while using the home screen. I haven't lost any data yet from a crash.

I love this calculator but the worst part for me is HP Connect since it's only on Windows...

How can i know if i'm buying a HP prime G2 and not a G1???? They're identical

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

If you have the calculator yourself then just look for a little G2 logo on the back of the calculator: m.imgur.com/a/67i4nNs . If you're looking for it online, then look for the product number. Revision A is: NW280AA ; Revision B or C is: G8X92AA ; Revision D (the G2) is: 2AP18AA

@amargado445

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial so the A, B and C would be the Hp prime g1 and the D version is the g2, am i right?

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

That's correct.

i just buy one of those thing on amazon for 237.99 $ did i get scam or its the 2022 version

@TheLastMillennial

2 жыл бұрын

May not be a scam but you've spent way too much. I would cancel the order and find a less expensive option (around $150 usd or less). There is no 2022 version, the hardware was last updated in 2018. The faster hardware's model ID is 2AP18AA so be sure to look for that when you buy.

@often4077

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial ty gold answer, and yeah that the one i have bought, kinda by luck ,dont rly know what i was doing 180 usd = 234 cad

But can i play pokemon on the hp? And if so how?

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately there's no Pokémon that I know of on the HP Prime. You can try looking for it yourself on the HP forum but that's my best guess on where it'd be.

@g.g6778

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLastMillennial thanks and damn your fast

Ugh....casio fx-cg50 prizm vs hp prime..... cant decide....

@Alen069

3 жыл бұрын

why is there no such detailed review on you tube...

@TheLastMillennial

3 жыл бұрын

Calculator reviews are a really niche thing. If I had money to spend on the channel I would love to make a video about it!

About the viewing angles: I have a feeling the decision was made to gain a bigger share of the high school market - the schools, not the students, since the viewing angle problem actually makes cheating more difficult.

@TheLastMillennial

10 ай бұрын

Not really, the side viewing angles are quite good and someone sitting across from you can see the screen better than you. If HP really wanted to prevent cheating using viewing angles they could have implemented a strict polarizer that has very narrow viewing angles. I'm pretty confident this is purely a cost cutting measure.