My Favorite NEW Hamilton is Hiding a lil Secret...
I've been on an emotional rollercoaster with the Hamilton Pilot Aviation 36 this past week. It's truly a fantastic watch, but do I want one for my collection?
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as a 6'' wrist guy, I love the new trend. YEAH !!!! 36-38 all the way !!!
@Lukamatta
4 ай бұрын
Same here! The KFE 36 is absolutely perfect for me
@hortehighwind8651
4 ай бұрын
Same
Actually, it's sacrificing 2 beats/second, going down from 8 to 6. ETA 2824-2 has 28800 beats/hour, which means 8 beats/second, or 4 Hz. ETA H10, or C07.611 in this case, has 21600 beats/hour, which means 6 beats/second, or 3 Hz. So the difference in the frequency is 1 Hz. Not to be confused with Omega or some Longines / Union Glashutte models that have a 3.5 Hz frequency. For those wondering if you can see the difference in the seconds hand sweep, the answer is definitely yes. That's not to say that the 6 bps looks choppy, but you do notice it when comparing it to 8 bps. Keep up the good work, Max. I truly enjoy your videos.
Also worth mentioning (and I might have missed this) Hamilton removes the reflective indices :( Oddly that was my favorite feature of the 42mm version.
I think the way the 42mm dial and indices shined and shimmered, playing with the light in a space age kind of way was part of the charm/DNA. Now it's lost the space age feel and is a different pilot watch. I also miss the center detail, which looked like a burning sun.
I disagree, have a day date Jazzmaster, so that itch is scratched, so the lack of it here makes it a near perfect face. Thanks, great video.
I totally agree. It’s not just the day window. This very much feels like an entirely different watch in the pilot genere rather than just a downsizing like the Murph.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
5 ай бұрын
Exactly 💯
@ulalipopolu1382
5 ай бұрын
It feels like it, because it is;) And I think it meant to be.
@Xxxoo57
5 ай бұрын
If you have any knowledge of the Fliegers, you would realise you’re completely wrong.
@fjbtube6278
5 ай бұрын
@@Xxxoo57Are you stating that it doesn’t meet criteria to be a flieger?
A proper pilot / flieger historically didn't have a day or date so this watch is appropriate. This size seems good.
Damn, this looks awesome!! Fantastic sizing, awesome handset (really cool design how the cutouts on the hands overlap each other and the cutout on the hour hand is perfectly placed to show the hour time). Thanks for showing this piece off!
Amazing watch and great close. I love how you articulate exactly what I’m thinking, yet struggling to put to words.
You're exactly right! I own the Hamilton Pilot Day Date 42 and love it! One thing that the smaller version doesn't have are the metal groved minute markings. Which add a nice play on light. This smaller version is a completely different watch. Not for me at all.
IMO assuming that this watch is an attempt to downsize Cooper is wrong. I'd agree if that model was the only release, but in fact we got an entire new khaki aviation collection with 42mm day-date pieces as well. Besides bracelet you have also leather straps and dial color options that come even with different finishing: that blue one is sunburst, the other one is matte black (which is by the way Hamilton's most accurate type B flieger - yup, those shiny applied indices we love that much on Cooper would disqualify it as a flieger, it should be simple white paint over matte black background, no day-date either). I think they did great job on that new collection and the only controversy I see are those oversized hands - it's love it or hate it, same as cathedral hands on Murph, a deal breaker for many people. So I see this as Hamilton's another bold move and demonstration of their identity in new releases - and even if those are not perfect, at least we can't accuse them of being boring (which is probably the worst thing for a watch to be).
I personally like the way the watch looks and think Hamilton made the right call by making it time only. Keeping the day / date would have made the 37mm look too crowded.
I agree, my first reaction was I wish they had kept the day-date functions and implemented in the same way as the 42. That said I still think it's enough of a winner of watch and design... one I'll keep my eye on as something that may end up on my wrist. Although that Murph on a bracelet doesnt look too bad neither.
This piece would look great on a brown suede strap or a dark blue Artem strap.
Dear Max, Another cool video presentation. I own a murph 38 and wanted a khaki big pilot. But 42mm was huge for my 6.75 inch wrist. After some bit of searching I found my perfect version of big pilot (H64425135). A 39mm case, screw down crown with 200m WR, day date option. Currently my favourite Hamilton. To my opinion this is a very good alternative of the big pilot.
As a regular contributor to Watch Crunch, Max you are a fantastic ambassador for the app/community. Another great video!
Another great review, Max. I really appreciate your comment "the Hamilton version does not have plastic parts in it," referring to the movement. Like you said, the details matter!
@WillSavage
4 ай бұрын
I assume this quip is referring to what Tissot did to the PRX powermatic movement?
@brianapples1255
4 ай бұрын
Most likely @@WillSavage
Omega’s WWII pilot watches for the RAF were 35mm, but thin bezelled and extremely readable. It’s the dial diameter that’s key. I’ve 34mm watched with dials the same size as in a Rolex sub.
Nice review, was almost gonna ask if this has the same plastic parts like the Tissot and you covered it at 4:19! 😊
I, too, am happy to see a wider variety in watch sizes. It'll be good to have a similar range across all sizes. As to your question, I have no complaints as to the way Hamilton has chosen to lay out the dial. But I'm also not a pilot.
Totally agree. I have the cooper on the bracelet and while it feels a bit large and heavy at times the day date is an integral part of the unique style of the design. So while a 36 may be ideal for a lady or a small wrist it's not the classic we have come to love already.
I just picked up this piece, and am enjoying it so far. I have a 7 3/4" wrist, and wear a range of watches from vintage 34mm Tudors to 41mm contemporary models (divers, etc.) I like the 36 (or 37) mm sizing so far. I was a bit surprised that the minute markers aren't lumed. Not really disappointed, moreso I just assumed they would be lumed and didn't check the specs or reviews closely enough to realize otherwise. And I like the purplish-blue dial colour as it is different than most of the other blue dials I own (Pelagos FXD, vintage DateJust, Hydronaut). Time will tell whether this remains part of my collection in the long term or not.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
5 ай бұрын
It's a great piece Rob, enjoy it!
@MattSeesGray
5 ай бұрын
It’s good to see guys with bigger wrists aren’t afraid to wear more constrained watch cases. I’ve seen so many guys on YT hate on 36mm watches and say things like, “oh this is a nice size watch for my wife” 😑
Great points you mentioned, a 39/or 40mm with the day date function but the same hot blue dial colour like in this 36 mm would be the catch 🎉✌️🙏🍀
Nice vid. Still on the fence about which Hamilton I should add to my collection. My first choice is The Murph, but this one is an eye catcher.
German fliegers have a very clean dial. No day, small date if any. Some don’t even have the brand name. I’m the world of authentic pilot watches less is more.
I wish this had a 20mm lug width. That to me is what makes the seiko Sarb so great. The proportions are perfect and that includes the lug width.
"Small, but with presence." Excellent, succinct description.
I think you're spot on with this being more fashion-oriented. I have the 42mm "Cooper" with the old ETA movement in it. This feels like a nod to that watch but upon closer look is completely different. Almost as if it doesn't quite know what it wants to be kind of in the same space I put the Seiko 5KX if that makes any sense. Personally I'm eyeing the new Khaki Field Expedition.
@daveLin104
5 ай бұрын
Most watches are fashion orientated or pieces of jewellery these even submariner etc its like a piece of jewellery now, its like field watches with high polished bezels etc.
@2005batman
5 ай бұрын
Buddy, it might come as a shock, so brace yourself: all watches are fashion-oriented. Except, maybe, for a couple of G-Shocks.
Bless you! It almost sounded like you said Tissot. Couldn’t be right!..Right …😢 😂 Love the video as usual big dawg!
Day and date are a bit crowded on the smaller size, but might be remedied with dial color matched day and date background.
To me looks A LOT better than the 42mm.
I actually prefer pin and collar to push pins and screws slightly trickier to set but once set I find more secure than screws getting loose etc.
Curious on your take of the 36mm Pilot Pioneer. Any comparisons to the Aviation you can share?
This is a different watch, and that's a good thing. If Hamilton had tried to leave the day/date on the 36; it wouldn't have worked at all. If you really want the watch from Interstellar; get the 42. If you want a good looking pilot's watch, but have small wrists; get the 36. Simple.
I have the Hamilton Khaki King which has similar day date complication to the Aviation Day Date, although the date is under the day at 12 o'clock. It's 40mm so would have thought an Aviation Day Date scaled to that size would be technically possible.
What a lovely watch ! I love it !))
Hello, and thanks for this video. I fully agree, this downsizing is a bit too much and, ironicaly, creates some kind of homage watch ... This said, this 36 mm is a great looking watch, with a great movement inside ... even if I bought an automatic PRX years ago, and still like and wear it, I loved your "Tissot's cough"! 😂
I have the Interstellar watch and yes, it is pretty big. I would love a smaller version, but 36/37 seems a bit small for me. I think the hands look too large. 39 with the same width hands would be just right for me.
As a happy owner of a Hamilton "Cooper" I think this thing is gorgeous!
Forget about trends. Wear what you like.
I really like simple watches that don't have day/date windows. I also love smaller watches so this is perfect for me. I just ordered one!
36 mm is perfect for edc wristwhatch every where you go
I love the day date of the 42.
The original Hamilton pilot's charm is in its day-date. However, the new version doesn't lose its aviator style, because the 12 o'clock triangle is so ubiquitous to flieger watches. That said, Hamilton could have rearranged the dial a bit and put the day at 6 o'clock, preserved the large aviator's triangle, and put the date at 3 o'clock or even angling it at 4:30 between the hour markers. That might look a bit askew, but maybe it'll work given that the day text and window are curved while they're right next to each other to make reading the day-date at a glance quicker. Technically speaking, I don't know how that would work in terms of the movement size and alignment with a smaller watch. But, if that means that the watch has to be say, 38mm, then I think they should do it.
Damn, they took away the only feature i wanted in case they went smaller. The original Cooper, had those striated numerals that reflected light at certain angles. A feature you don't see that often, and at the right angle makes the numbers "glow" even in very low light conditions.
As an owner of the 42mm Cooper, I think this watch is absolutely a missed opportunity... It takes several design cues from its big brother, but that's about it (and, like you and others have mentioned, they left out the day-date and reflective numerals). Even on a small wrist I'll continue to wear the original and love it because of how it still fits well due to the short lug to lug but with a massive, legible face, like a good pilot's watch.
There’s only so much they can do with off-the-shelf movements when shrinking dials.
Totally agree, the hardest part is that this watch is not perfect…but it is veeery good… I keep on going with my khaki field mechanical though Regards from Spain
@WatchCrunchOfficial
5 ай бұрын
Hola Albert 👋👋
@albertoalvarez1924
5 ай бұрын
@@WatchCrunchOfficial hola, eres un Crack!
@johnmartin7158
Ай бұрын
I’ve had my Khaki Field for a many years now and it’s extremely accurate.
Would you think the bracelet size of the watch reduce to 14.5cm?
I have the original "Cooper" and tried on the 42mm new version in green on the leather strap. I really liked that variant, but the loss of the date on the "36mm" is a miss for me personally. I know a lot of enthusiasts seem to like no date watches, but I prefer having that. I do think Hamilton is trying to reach a middle ground and have unisex appeal with the smaller model, which makes sense. The black one is sunburst, but does look a bit more masculine. Overall, the more brushed look of this version is less dressy than my Cooper. I think that's okay, especially since the Cooper still exists. Sometimes I wear my Cooper and wonder why I got my Rolex Explorer II. Is the Explorer II an excellent watch? Absolutely, but I don't know if it's literally 10x the price better.
Nice looking watch. We need both sizes, I have 7.5 wrist. There is no one perfect size.
The 42 was a great design, this is more like a Seiko 5 flieger luxury homage.
I prefer it without the day date, great looking watch 😊
I’d like to know what bracelet is on that Khaki Field Murph at this timepoint - it suits it so well! 6:34
@kenohanrahan4745
5 ай бұрын
That's from Uncle Seiko, Max did a video about it about 2 weeks ago. Looks perfect for the Murph 38.
Where to get the bracelet on the murph?
@stephaneisen
4 ай бұрын
Looks really nice at 0:25s, right?
Good looking watch. Not quite a Flieger, and not quite the Cooper. Personally I would like to see the beloved Khaki Field Mechanical is some more colourways. Cheers.
@amilyester
14 күн бұрын
Hamilton made new colours recently :)
i thought Longines spirit 37 mm is the minimum size that i can wear..But now i am not sure... 36 mm looks very good on your wrist ..
@WatchCrunchOfficial
5 ай бұрын
Yeah this one wears bigger
The pilot watches are large in size, because that is what they were required to do when they were created. Taking them to 36 mm is taking away all their essence. Greetings!
@ulalipopolu1382
5 ай бұрын
You forget they were originally 55mm and pilots used to wear them over a jacket sleeve. To be fair, hardly any modern watch meets size requirement (I think Laco and Stowa make historically correct flieger replicas). Divers, aviation watches generally are not tool watches anymore: it's fashion, we just play with different styles.
@AlexQUM
5 ай бұрын
@@ulalipopolu1382No, I don't forget, I know the history of pilot watches. And I'm not so strict with the dimensions of those types of watches, since I have a 44 mm pilot watch and another 40 mm watch. Even so, I insist that 36 mm is too small, at least for me. Greetings!
the dial color is new and to me looks great , But still i don't like watches without at least a date complication .
A lot of pilot watches do this, but i just think the minute hand width is too wide. It overlaps the markings on the dial making it hard too read (at least for me) which kinda defeats the purpose of a pilots watch. Love everything else about the model though. Looks very sharp.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
5 ай бұрын
Good point, it feels like a stylistic choice here
If they had done this with the day date complication, I would be all over it! ...And I've got large muscular wrists, but I prefer classic sizes.
I have come to prefer no date watches. I don’t like having to set a day/date. When I pick a watch up from not wearing, I like to just set the time and go. Also day/date complications often take up too much space and ruin symmetry. No date/date is a great move. 👍
Did I just hear a watch reviewer say he misses the Day-Date function? The world has turned upside down!
If this had a day-date complication I would have bought this. But since it doesn't I'll wait.
I totally ok with the dowsize and no day/date, but the dial is a bit crowded. I really don´t like the the hafl skeleton hour/minute hands, they should be normal swordhands filled with lume and the dial would look great with a black laquer. Seeing it beside the 38 Murph. The Murph looks so so so much better.
@ulalipopolu1382
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, using normal swordhands would bring more classic look, but what's the point of that? Getting a Stowa/Laco flieger with a Hamilton logo?
Damn! Looks good.
I never take advice. Watches are strange things. I once interfered in an auction and tossed in a 160 bid just to keep things moving. Shortly thereafter I was the owner of an NOS Seiko kinetic that became a keeper that I wore yesterday. Bear in mind I love manual wind clockwork. Also I have believed for as long as I remember that the date complication should have been a day window. Seconds minutes hour day. If I want date I invariably use a calendar because of context.
The OG hammy is still the best and this one is lovely as well. The murph with the luxuryish hands killed it for me really honestly by all means don’t see that mercedes wheel hour hands pleasing. Alpha hands, Vintage laurel hands and broad arrows hands are more high end looking and pleasing or well balanced in my opinion. With this size it may not matter though due to proportions. The day omission was a downside also for me but the size for having a small wrist is perfect but for the price range they should have retain day date complications. Maybe the next version will be the one ☝️
Good review
Hamilton makes great watches. I really hope they downsize the 43mm Khaki Navy Scuba Auto with the ceramic bezel inserts. They look amazing and have awesome colour ways and gradient dials. The smaller 40mm version with the aluminum insert isn’t as nice and the 43mm is just way too large. Thankfully I have a 38mm Khaki Field Auto to tide me over.
It's a bit too small for me given the watch type (a 39-40mm no date would have been perfect), but I guess for some it's alright alright alright.....
I see this hamilton, and I raise you the Laco Pro flieger
Just a date window would have had me sold...
I would like in it size 39 ! Otherwise a great watch .
No date is my favorite part. It’s why I prefer the 36/37 over the new 42.
No lubed hour markers killed it.
I agree, it's not as bad as the Casio Duro downsize but it seems to have been done for prettyness and nobody wants that. The most impressive aspect of this watch is not really losing that beauty of the 2824 sweep by taking it down to 7 ticks a second but more than doubling the Power reserve. For me I'd rather have a watch beating 4 Hz and losing power quicker than having a 3 Hz, it is noticeable, and having it run for longer. Resetting the time and date on a watch is easy, quick and also a rare chance to interact with the movement so I prefer to see those 28,800 ticks an hour and let the watch die.
@ulalipopolu1382
5 ай бұрын
I have mixed feelings about this. 4Hz is noticeably smoother and after getting a new watch you appreciate that at the beginning, but when the new watch fascination is gone, you start thinking that it would be nice to put it in a drawer for a weekend and see it running on Monday - based on true story about me and my ETA 2892. Extra power reserve is pretty awesome if you like watch rotation. If you're into movement interaction, mechanical is your way to go. If you're obsessed with smothness, you need to go for Seiko's spring drive or Bulova's 262kHz - because, to be honest, on 4Hz those ticks are easily noticable as well. Also, if you like to listen to your movement working (yup, I'm one of those people), then in my opinion 3Hz beating sounds... better: it feels more natural, while 4Hz sounds a bit too anxious to me.
@morganthedruid1
5 ай бұрын
@@ulalipopolu1382 Yes good points, I really like your take on the 4Hz sound. We all understand that watches are experienced differently by everyone and that's why i put the "for me" before adding my opinion as I know power reserve is important to a lot of people. For me it is at the bottom of the pile
@ulalipopolu1382
5 ай бұрын
@@morganthedruid1You're right, and that's exactly why watches are interesting:)
Is this movement serviceable? You said no plastic parts, so that should be a yes, right?
@brucesuitt993
5 ай бұрын
All Hamiltons are serviceable.
I am a proud owner of the 42mm 'Cooper' and this honestly hardly shares any resemblance. I could forgive the lack of day/date but the rest of the dial is vastly different. Definitely not for me.
The sizing is what I feel they got wrong on this watch. I really wanted this to be a premium take on my beloved Seiko SRPH, but the 42 is too big and the 36 is too…small.
Interstellar was one of my favourite films and was all over the Aviation Day Date until I tried it on. With its thin bezel it's just too big. At 40 mm, would be on it in a heart beat. Very sadly this isn't it.
Wow the proportions are off on this one. The 42mm is one one of my favorites because of its almost perfect proportions and this one missed for me hard.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
5 ай бұрын
It's lost a bit in the downsize
While I prefer no date watches I do miss the day date look of the 42
does it fog up
@WatchCrunchOfficial
5 ай бұрын
Negative
I don't know, the PVD/Rose Gold is really jiving with me. If it didn't have the reputation of, poorman's IWC Pilots I would jump on it.
Whilst it's great that Hamilton are creating more smaller watches, it's a shame they keep leaving out a date option. I know the inclusion of a date can be contentious, but for me, if it is to be something I could wear daily, then it is a must.
if they could have kept the day/date at 36mm, or at least a date I would have been all over this
I actually prefer the look of the 36.
I wish that one in Quartz.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
5 ай бұрын
Would be cool
The H-10 movement is 3Hz, not 3.5Hz..
How many pilot watches does this brand need?
@WatchCrunchOfficial
5 ай бұрын
😂
Nice watch but why the 12 hr scale instead of the 24 hr. Aviators always use 24. 😢it’s a shame.
I actually think it's better without the day and date--too busy and cluttered--but I agree sunburst isn't a good fit for pilot's watch.
I like the 36mm version more. I don’t like the day function.
My question is...does the bracelet on this new Hamilton fit on the Murph?
@calebdlara
5 ай бұрын
This has 18mm lugs, 38mm Murph has 20mm lugs. So no. But Uncle Seiko sells bracelets for the Murph!
@baoh29able
5 ай бұрын
@@calebdlara what a shame, but that's alright. And yeah, I'm waiting on the restock!
True flieger has no day date.
“Tissot “
So tissot does plastic and Hamilton doesn’t. What’s the thinking on that?
@WatchCrunchOfficial
5 ай бұрын
Right. The low end powermatic 80 movements have plastic escapements
@nedflanders3769
5 ай бұрын
C07.111 vs C07.611. There are various grades of that movement, kyle. The PRX uses the lower end one.
the new favorite watch...problem is he says that for all watches....so i also watch his videos....and buy none of them!
I have small wrist but I never wear less than 40 mm. Just not for me.